Talking Pictures with Neil Rosen

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Oscars 2020

Film critic Neil Rosen invites viewers to explore the movie industry with him each month, as he dives in to the latest releases from Hollywood and independent producers. Interviews with actors and other industry insiders, as well as commentary from fellow critics, provide varying perspectives on the ever-changing world of film.

AIRED: February 07, 2020 | 0:27:03
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>>> THIS WEEK ON TALKING PICTURES WITH NEIL ROSEN

TALKS OSCARS, THE ACADEMY AWARDS ARE COMING UP.

WE'RE MAKING PREDICTIONS. WE'LL TELL YOU WHICH BEST

PICTURE NOMINEES HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO GO THE

DISTANCE? WE WILL LET YOU KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY

ACTORS AND ACTRESSES WHO HAVE THE COVETED GOLD

STATUETTES ALL BUT LOCKED UP. PLUS, WE'VE GOT WORD

ON WHAT DIRECTOR IS OUT IN FRONT WITH THE BEST CHANCE

OF WINNING? WE'VE GOT ALL THAT AND MANY MORE

OSCAR PICKS AND THOUGHTS, COMING UP.

♪ [THEME MUSIC]

>>> WELCOME TO TALKING PICTURES TALKS OSCARS.

THE ACADEMY AWARDS ARE THIS WEEKEND, AND ALONG WITH MY

PANEL OF EXPERTS, WE'RE MAKING PREDICTIONS.

I'M JOINED BY RAFER GUZMAN FROM NEWSDAY, LISA ROSMAN

FROM SIGNS AND SIRENS, AND BILL MCCUDDY FROM

GOLDDERBY.COM. LET'S START OFF WITH BEST SUPPORTING

ACTOR, AND LET'S TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT THE NOMINEES

IN THAT CATEGORY.

>>> IT'S WONDERFUL TO MEET YOU. SO GLAD YOU'RE HERE

LLOYD. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO TALKING WITH YOU. I

TRULY AM. AFTER THIS.

>>> FOR SOME STRANGE REASON, NOW I CAN SEE A

NECESSITY -

>>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BODIES AROUND ME? YOU PUT

BODIES AROUND YOU THEN THEY GO AFTER YOUR FAMILY.

IT DOESN'T MATTER. YOU'RE WORRIED.

>>> I'M WORRIED.

>>> GET SOME BODIES AROUND YOU. I TELL YOU WHY.

THIS COULD HAPPEN TO YOU.

>>> LISTEN, I GOT THAT KID I WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT

HERE. I'M GOING TO PUT HIM ON THE PHONE, LET YOU TALK

TO HIM. OKAY?

>>> JUST SURPRISED HOW ACCURATE THAT SCRIPT OF ME

REALLY IS. SOME OLD COWBOY GUY THAT USED TO SHOOT

MOVIES AND SPAWN RAMS.

>>> ALL RIGHT. BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR. LISA,

WHO DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO WIN? WHO DO YOU WANT TO WIN?

>>> I THINK THIS IS BRAD PITT'S YEAR.

>>> WHAT?

>>> I DO. HE'S PLAYING THE GAME WELL THIS YEAR.

HE'S ALREADY NABBED SOME AWARDS ALONG THE WAY AND

EVERYBODY. YEAH, AND EVERYBODY'S LOVES THAT

MOVIE, WHICH I'M NOT GOING TO MENTION BECAUSE I

DON'T. I WOULD LOVE IF JOE PESCI WON FOR THE

IRISHMAN, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY

PERFORMANCE. AND WHO KNEW THAT JOE PATCHY HAD THAT

BEAUTIFUL, QUIET RESTRAINT INSIDE ALL THOSE OTHER

CRAZY SCORSESE PERFORMANCES HE'S TURNED

IN OVER THE YEARS.

>>> YEAH, BUT THIS IS A SLAM DUNK NEIL. THIS IS

THE BUY THE FARM. THIS IS IT. HE'S NEVER ONE FOR

ACTING. THEY LOVE BRAD PITT. THEY LOVE THIS MOVIE

BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT HOLLYWOOD. YOU MAKE THAT

POINT EVERY WEEK. I THINK THIS IS THE LOCK OF THE

NIGHT. YEAH, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE PESCI

BECAUSE HE ISN'T -

>>> HE'S NOT GONNA WIN. I JUST SAID I WANTED HIM TO WIN.

>>> HE WAS LOW KEY IN RAGING BULL. HE WASN'T A

LUNATIC IN RAGING BULL, IF YOU REMEMBER.

>>> HE WAS A PUNCHING BAG. >>> HE CAME OUT OF

RETIREMENT FOR THIS PERFORMANCE AND IT WAS

WORTH IT.

>>> RIGHT. BUT HE'S NOT WINNING. GO AHEAD RAY,

WHO DO YOU WANT TO WIN? WHO DO YOU THINK IS GONNA WIN?

>>> I THINK IF YOU GIVE IT TO PESCI YOU HAVE ANOTHER

REALLY SHORT OSCAR SPEECH RIGHT? I DON'T THINK WE

WANT THAT. BUT I WOULD SAY, I THINK IT'S BRAD

PITT ALL THE WAY, AND I THINK THIS IS HIS COOLEST,

SEXIEST, MOST AWESOME ROLE SINCE TYLER DURDEN IN

FIGHT CLUB.

>>> I GUESS I SHOULD SAY OUT LOUD HOW MUCH I HATED

THE MOVIE AND HATE THE PERFORMANCE -

>>> OR MONEYBALL.

>>> IT'S INCREDIBLY MISOGYNISTIC.

>>> HE WAS AMAZING IN MONEYBALL ALSO. I'M SURE

HE HATED THAT ONE TOO.

>>> I LOVE MONEYBALL. IT'S A GREAT MOVIE.

>>> HE'S BEEN NOMINATED BEFORE FOR 12 MONKEYS,

AS YOU SAID, MONEYBALL. AS YOU SAID, BILL, HE WON FOR

PRODUCING. HE'S NEVER WON AN ACTING OSCAR. THIS IS

HIS YEAR. HE'S DOING ALL THE CAMPAIGN.

>>> HE LOOKS LIKE AN OSCAR.

>>> HE WON THE SAG AWARD. HE WON THE CRITICS CHOICE

AWARD. HE WON THE GOLDEN GLOVE. THERE'S NO REASON

TO BELIEVE THAT HE'S NOT GOING TO WIN THIS. LET'S

TAKE A LOOK AT THE NOMINEES FOR BEST

SUPPORTING ACTRESS.

>>> MR. PRESIDENT, PLEASE CLEAR MY SONS NAME.

>>> GOD IS THE FATHER AND GOD DIDN'T SHOW UP.

>>> I AM NOT THAT HUNGRY. I MIGHT EAT LATER.

FOR NOW, I'M JUST GOING TO CHEW ON THESE GRAPES.

>>> DON'T SIT THERE AND TELL ME THAT MARRIAGE

ISN'T AN ECONOMIC PROPOSITION BECAUSE IT IS.

>>> EVERY HOLIDAY, LIKE ESPECIALLY HOLIDAYS,

YOU WATCH FOX NEWS. WE'RE LIKE ADDICTS. FOX IS LIKE HOW

WERE DO CHURCH.

>>> RAY, WHO DO YOU LIKE TO WIN IN THIS CATEGORY?

WHO DO YOU WANT TO WIN IN THIS CATEGORY?

>>> IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME PERSON LAURA DERN FOR

MARRIAGE STORY PLAYING A DIVORCE LAWYER. I THINK

SHE'S JUST FANTASTIC. SHE'S SEXY. SHE'S FUNNY.

SHE'S VICIOUS, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING FEMINIST

ABOUT HER. I LOVED THE WAY THAT SHE SORT OF COUCHES

ALL HER VICIOUS TEARING DOWN OF THE HUSBAND AS A

WAY TO SORT OF UPHOLD WOMEN AND YOU KNOW, GET

THEM WHAT THEY DESERVE IN THE WORLD. I JUST THOUGHT

IT WAS A GREAT PERFORMANCE. YOU COULD

ALSO GIVE IT TO HER FOR LITTLE WOMEN IF YOU WANT.

SHE WAS GREAT IN THAT AS WELL, BUT I THINK IT'S

GOING TO BE HER FOR MARRIAGE STORY.

>>> YEAH, ACTUALLY I WANT IT TO BE THE PERSON WHO'S

GOING TO WIN FOR A CHANGE, IS LAURA DERN. SHE REALLY,

IN THAT PERFORMANCE, SHE CALLS TO MIND SOME OF THE

SCREWBALL COMEDIC ACTORS I THINK OF THE THIRTIES AND

FORTIES YEAH, LIKE GLORIOUS SELF-POSITION,

LIKE POSSESSION THERE. AMAZING PERFORMANCE.

>>> I LOVE HER TOO AND IT'S GONNA TO WIN AND I

THINK SHOULD WIN BUT THIS IS THE CATEGORY WHERE

THERE CAN SOMETIMES BE AN UPSET, AND THIS IS WHERE

THEY LIKE DOING AN INGENUE. SO FLORENCE PUGH

FOR LITTLE WOMEN, OR EVEN MARGOT ROBBIE, EITHER OF

WHICH ARE - LISTEN, THE OSCARS DON'T ALWAYS LIKE

BEING TOLD WHAT TO DO. LAURA DERN HAS WON

EVERYTHING AND SHE'S IN A NETFLIX MOVIE. THOSE ARE

THE ONLY ARGUMENTS YOU CAN MAKE AGAINST HER. I'M JUST

MAKING THE ARGUMENT. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE

LAURA DERN ALSO, BUT FLORENCE PUGH COULD

BE THE SURPRISE.

>>> I AGREE THAT THIS IS THE CATEGORY WHERE THERE

ARE THE UPSETS, THE MARISA TOMIE UPSET AND WE CAN GO

ON AND ON. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO

HAPPEN. FIRST OF ALL, SHE'S HOLLYWOOD ROYALTY.

SHE'S THE DAUGHTER OF BRUCE DERN AND DIANE LADD,

AS YOU SAID, BILL, SHE'S WON ALL THE MAJOR AWARDS.

SHE'S IN THREE MOVIES THIS YEAR. NOT ONLY LITTLE

WOMEN, THAT THAT HBO SERIES, BIG LITTLE LIES.

SO SHE'S GOT LIKE -

>>> ALTHOUGH SOME PEOPLE SAY SHE'S PLAYING THE SAME

CHARACTER FROM BIG LITTLE LIES.

>>> AND YOU KNOW WHAT, SHE DOES IT AWESOME. I LOVE IT.

>>> IT'S ALSO THE THIRD TIME SHE'S BEEN NOMINATED

AND SHE'S NEVER WON BEFORE. SO I'D BE --

THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR UPSET. FLORENCE PUGH. I DON'T

THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I'M WITH YOU.

>>> IT IS BY FAR THROUGH THE BEST AMY THAT'S EVER

BEEN ON SCREEN.

>>> SO WE ALL WANT LAURA DERN AND WE ALL THINK

LAURA DERN IS GOING TO WIN. SO WE'RE UNANIMOUS ON

THAT ONE TOO. LET'S MOVE ON TO BEST ACTRESS AND

LET'S TAKE A LOOK.

>>> NEARLY DROWN. NOTHING TO EAT FOR DAYS AND DAYS

BUT I MADE IT. SO DON'T YOU TELL ME WHAT I CAN'T DO?

>>> THE ONLY REASON WE DIDN'T LIVE HERE IS

BECAUSE YOU CAN'T IMAGINE DESIRES OTHER THAN YOUR

OWN UNLESS THEY'RE FORCED ON YOU.

>>> AND I'M SO SICK OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT THAT

LOVE IS JUST ALL A WOMEN IS FIT FOR. I'M SO SICK OF IT.

>>> IT'S LIKE WE'RE TELLING WOMEN, GO ON,

SPEAK UP FOR YOURSELF. JUST KNOW THE ENTIRE

NETWORK IS WITH ROGER.

>>> ANYBODY WHO'S DIFFERENT, THEY CAN'T

STAND IT. WELL TO HELL WITH THEM.

>>> BILL, WHO DO YOU WANT? WHO DO YOU THINK?

>>> YOU KNOW, THIS IS GETTING A LITTLE BORING

BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALL GOING TO AGREE. JUDY,

JUDY, JUDY, I LOVE YOU. I DO. I DO. I DO. EVERYONE

LIKES REN ÉE ZELLWEGER IN A PRETTY ORDINARY MOVIE

ABOUT JUDY GARLAND, BUT SHE SHINES IN THIS THING.

WELL, LET ME JUST SAY THAT THOUGH THAT YES GONNA WIN,

SHOULD WIN PROBABLY, BUT MY LONG SHOT HERE IS

CHARLIZE THERON, WHO ABSOLUTELY BECOMES MEGYN

KELLY. I MEAN, I WORKED WITH MEGYN KELLY AND THIS

WOMAN IS MEGYN KELLY. I MEAN, THERE'S NO CGI.

SHE'S HAD SOME MAKEUP AND SOME PROSTHETICS, BUT -

>>> SO THE MAKEUP ARTIST SHOULD GET THE OSCAR.

>>> NO. THAT'S FASCICLE.

>>> IT HAPPENED FOR CHURCHILL A COUPLE OF

YEARS AGO FOR GARY OLDMAN. LOOK, IT'S GOING TO BE

JUDY. IT'S GOING TO BE REN ÉE. BUT, IT WOULDN'T

SURPRISE ME IF SOMETHING CRAZY HAPPENED.

>>> I'M FRUSTRATED THAT IT'S GOING

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