Talking Pictures with Neil Rosen

S1 E11 | FULL EPISODE

Little Women, Uncut Gems, Bombshell, and 1917

Film critic Neil Rosen invites viewers to explore the movie industry with him each month, as he dives in to the latest releases from Hollywood and independent producers. Interviews with actors and other industry insiders, as well as commentary from fellow critics, provide varying perspectives on the ever-changing world of film.

AIRED: January 10, 2020 | 0:26:46
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>>> THIS WEEK ON TALKING

PICTURES WITH NEIL ROSEN,

WE'LL LOOK AT THE NEW

WORLD WAR I EPIC 1917,

A NEW FILM ADAPTATION OF

THE CLASSIC NOVEL LITTLE

WOMEN, THE DRAMEDY UNCUT

GEMS, SET IN NEW YORK'S

DIAMOND DISTRICT STARRING

ADAM SANDLER, AND THE FOX

NEWS DRAMA BOMBSHELL,

WITH CHARLIZE THERON, NICOLE

KIDMAN, AND MARGOT ROBBIE.

PLUS, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT

SOME OF OUR FAVORITE

MOVIES OF THE YEAR. WE'VE

GOT ALL THAT AND MANY MORE

MOVIE PICKS COMING UP.

♪ [THEME MUSIC]

I'M NEIL ROSEN. WELCOME TO

TALKING PICTURES. IT'S OUR

MONTHLY CRITIC ROUND TABLE

SHOW WHERE WE DEBATE

WHAT'S WORTH WATCHING AND

WHAT'S NOT WHEN IT COMES

TO NEW RELEASES, HIDDEN

GEMS, AND HOLLYWOOD

CLASSICS. JOINING ME ARE

DAVID FEAR FROM ROLLING

STONE, LISA ROSMAN FROM

SIGNS AND SIRENS, AND BILL

MCCUDDY FROM GOLDDERBY.

NOW LET'S START OUT WITH A

LOOK AT SEVERAL NEW FILMS

HITTING THEATERS THIS

MONTH, BEGINNING WITH

UNCUT GEMS STARRING ADAM

SANDLER AS AN ADDICTIVE

GAMBLER WHO'S IN OVER HIS HEAD.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT A CLIP.

♪ [INTENSE MUSIC]

>>> I TOLD YOU ABOUT HOW

THINGS WERE GOING TO GO.

YOU LIKE THE WAY THINGS

ARE GOING NOW?

♪ [INTENSE MUSIC]

>>> THAT'S MY FAMILY! GET

THE KIDS OUTTA THE HOUSE.

[PULSING]

>>> YOU HAVING A GOOD TIME?

>>> YES.

>>> DAVID, TELL US ABOUT

UNCUT GEMS.

>>> SO I'M ONE OF THOSE

ADAM SANDLER FANS THAT I

LOVE IT WHEN HE FINDS THE

RIGHT FILMMAKER TO GET HIM

A NICE CHEWY ROLE, AND

MAN, THIS IS IT. HE PLAYS

HOWARD RATNER, HE WORKS IN

THE DIAMOND DISTRICT OFF

OF 47TH STREET IN MIDTOWN,

MANHATTAN. HE COMES ACROSS

THIS RARE OPAL THAT HE

THINKS IS GOING TO TURN

HIS BAD LUCK STREAK AROUND.

AND THE ONLY

PROBLEM IS THAT HE LOANS

IT TO KEVIN GARNETT,

PLAYED BY EX-BOSTON

CELTICS MVP, IT'S KEVIN GARNETT.

>>> I LOVE GARNETT!

>>> THIS IS ONE OF THOSE-

>>> HE'S PERFECT FOR THE ROLE.

>>> JUST LIKE INCREDIBLY

RELENTLESS. ALMOST TO THE

POINT WHERE IT'S SO

STRESSFUL. AND IT'S DONE

BY JOSHUA AND BENNY

SAFDIE, WHO ARE THESE TWO

NEW YORK FILMMAKERS THAT

ARE ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.

I MEAN, UNCUT GEM IS

ACTUALLY LIKE A REALLY

GREAT DESCRIPTION OF THIS

FILM AS WELL. IT'S

ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL.

>>> LISA?

>>> OKAY. THE SAFDIE

BROTHERS TO ME ARE ALL

MEANS NO END. AND BY THIS

I MEAN THAT THEY

INVARIABLY MAKE THESE

MOVIES THAT SEEM DEEPER

THAN THEY ARE. THE BEST

THING THAT THEY DO IS THEY

CREATE AMAZING CHARACTER

STUDIES AND THAT'S WHAT

THEY DID HERE. ADAM

SANDLER TURNS IN AN

AMAZING PERFORMANCE IN

WHAT, TO ME, IS A MIDDLING FILM.

THE BEST THING ABOUT IT BESIDES

HIS PERFORMANCE IS THE EDITING

CHOICES, WHICH ARE

ACTUALLY OFF THE CHART.

LIKE THERE'S THIS CRAZY

SEGUE AT ONE POINT FROM

THE OPAL ITSELF TO A

COLONOSCOPY, THAT REALLY

WORKS. AS MUCH AS I LIKE

THINGS LIKE THIS, I DON'T

FEEL LIKE THIS FILM

ADVANCES MY UNDERSTANDING

ABOUT ANYTHING AND IT

SOMEHOW, I WAS MORE

STRESSED OUT IN A NEGATIVE

WAY THAN A POSITIVE ONE.

>>> WELL, THERE'S A LOTTA

ANGST GOING ON HERE.

I MEAN, THE GUY IS ROBBING

EVERYBODY TO PAY EVERYBODY

ELSE AND HE'S DOING IT REALLY,

REALLY STRESSFULLY. HE'S GOT A

GIRLFRIEND, A WIFE, HE'S

GOT KIDS, HE'S GOT

GARNETT, HE'S GOT THIS-

THESE RAP STARS. HE'S

GOING TO CONCERTS. HE'S IN

BIG TROUBLE. HE'S BEING

CHASED DOWN. I THINK I

AGREE WITH YOU, I LIKE THE

MOVIE A LITTLE MORE THAN

YOU DO. I'LL TELL YOU

EXACTLY HOW MUCH LATER IN

THE SHOW BUT THIS IS A,

I THINK, GREAT PERFORMANCE

BY HIM AND WE ARE SUNK

DEAD INTO THE WORLD OF

47TH STREET SO PERFECTLY

THAT I GOT CREEPED OUT BY

WATCHING THIS.

>>> LISTEN, I'M WITH YOU.

IT IS A REMARKABLE

PERFORMANCE AND IT'S A

DRAMATIC ROLE WITH DARKLY

COMEDIC YOU KNOW, ELEMENTS

TO IT FROM SANDLER. AND

LISTEN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT,

ON PAPER THIS IS NOT A

LIKABLE GUY. THIS IS AN

ADULTERER WHO'S, YOU KNOW,

COMPULSIVE GAMBLER. HE'S A

DEGENERATE GUY AND YOU

KNOW, SANDLER SOMEHOW

MAKES YOU ROOT FOR THIS GUY-

>>> WELL NOT ENTIRELY.

>>> AND HE ALSO MAKES IT

FUNNY AND I CAN'T THINK OF

ANOTHER ACTOR WHO THEY'D

ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO PULL

THAT OFF. AND THE ONLY ONE

WHO CAN COMPETE WITH HIM ON

THE SCREEN IS THIS NEWCOMER

WHO PLAYS HIS MISTRESS.

WHO I THINK IS QUITE GOOD,

BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE YOUR EYES

OFF SANDLER. I WILL NOT

GIVE THIS AWAY AS A

SPOILER, BUT THERE'S A TEN

MINUTE SEQUENCE NEAR THE

END OF THE FILM THAT

INVOLVES A BASKETBALL GAME

THAT IS JUST REMARKABLE TO

WATCH, AND THE SAFDIE

BROTHERS, THIS WHOLE THING

IS LIKE A NON-STOP

ADRENALINE YOU KNOW,

EXPRESS TRAIN THAT JUST

DOES NOT STOP AND LET UP

FOR TWO HOURS. IT'S A

GEM OF A MOVIE. PUN INTENDED.

>>> I NEEDED A COLONOSCOPY

AT THE END.

>>> OR A XANAX.

>>> I THINK IT'S TERRIFIC.

ANYWAY, MOVING ON LET'S TALK,

ABOUT RICHARD JEWEL,

NOT THE PERSON. LET'S TALK

ABOUT THE MOVIE, BILL.

>>> WELL, CLINT EASTWOOD,

THE KID'S STILL GOT IT.

DIRECTS THIS IS THE

REAL-LIFE STORY OF A

SECURITY GUARD IN 1996 AT

THE OLYMPICS DURING THE

BOMBING IN ATLANTA.

UBER-SCHLUBBY I-TONYA

SCENE STEALER, PAUL WALTER

HAUSER IS FIRST THE HERO

THEN THE SUSPECT WHEN

REPORTER, OLIVIA WILDE,

GOES UNDERCOVER WITH THE FBI'S

JOHN HAMM TO BREAK THE STORY

THAT THE TUBBY GUY DID IT.

HIS MOM, KATHY BATES, CRIES

FOUL BUT THE STANDOUT HERE,

AND IT REALLY IS, IS

SAM ROCKWELL AS THE STRUGGLING

LAWYER WHO DEFENDS JEWEL

TO THE VERY END.

>>> HE'S THE BEST THING IN

THE MOVIE.

>>> HISTORICALLY INTERESTING,

ENLIGHTENING, I FORGOT A LOT

OF THINGS BEFORE I WATCHED

IT AND IT'S NOT THE GREATEST

MOVIE THIS YEAR, BUT I LIKE IT.

>>> LISA?

>>> OKAY. THREE WORDS I

NEVER WANT TO HEAR IN

TANDEM AGAIN, "NEW

EASTWOOD MOVIE." NO. I'M

SO OVER THIS DUDE. OVER

AND OVER AND OVER HE SEEMS

TO MAKE THESE MOVIES THAT

ARE ABOUT THE UNDER SIEGE

LIKE GOD AND COUNTRY

FEARING, WHITE MALE BEING

VICTIMIZED BY EVIL

INSTITUTIONS IN SOME WAY.

IN THIS CASE HE NAILED

THEM ALL, RIGHT? THE

MEDIA, BUREAUCRACIES, THE

GOVERNMENT, AND OF COURSE,

WOMEN. I MEAN, YOU KNOW

THAT THERE ISN'T ACTUALLY

THAT MUCH PROOF THAT THE

REAL KATHY SCRUGGS SLEPT WITH

THE FBI DUDE TO GET THAT SCOOP?

>>> YEAH. THAT'S TROUBLE.

>>> WHICH IS VERY

TROUBLESOME. I MEAN, THIS

IS REINFORCING ALL THE

PATRIARCHAL CRAP THAT

DOESN'T NEED REINFORCEMENT.

I'M SORRY. I GOT NO PATIENCE.

>>> DAVID?

>>> THE CHARACTER'S NAME

MIGHT AS WELL HAVE BEEN

"FLOOSY J. JOURNALIST."

>>> THANK YOU!

>>> THE WAY SHE COMES OFF-

>>> THANK YOU.

>>> IS THIS KIND OF LIKE

FLIGHTY DAFFY, I'M GOING

TO SLEEP WITH-

>>> YOU DIDN'T LIKE OLIVIA

WILDE'S PERFORMANCE.

>>> I DIDN'T LIKE ANYTHING

ABOUT THIS MOVIE.

>>> HOW IT'S WRITTEN.

>>> REALLY?

>>> I DON'T LIKE THE FACT

THAT -- I HATE THE FACT THAT

CLINT EASTWOOD, WHO IS A

DIRECTOR, HE HAS A LOT OF

QUALITIES THAT I ADMIRE,

IS ESSENTIALLY MAKING THIS

MOVIE JUST SO HE CAN SHAKE

HIS CANE AT INSTITUTIONS

HE'S ANGRY AT.

>>> THIS IS AN ANGRY OLD

MAN MOVIE.

>>> AND HE SHOT THIS FILM

WHERE THE- YOU CAN SEE A

POSTER IN THE BACKGROUND

THAT SAYS "I AM MORE

SCARED OF GOVERNMENT THAN

I AM OF TERRORISM." AND

THEN TALK ABOUT BURYING

THE LEAD THERE. HE'S GOT A

BONE TO PICK WITH THAT AND

THE MEDIA AND THE FBI AND

THAT'S ALL THIS FILM IS

FOR TWO HOURS. IT'S NOT

EVEN ABOUT THE GUY WHOSE

NAME IS ON THE TITLE.

>>> WHO BY THE WAY, I

WOULD'VE THOUGHT WAS A

TERRORIST. THE FBI WASN'T

WRONG TO INVESTIGATE HIM.

THEY JUST- IT'S JUST A,

YOU KNOW, BADLY TOLD STORY.

>>> NOW LISTEN, I'VE GOTTA

ADMIRE THE FACT THAT AT 89

YEARS OLD, DESPITE YOUR

FEELINGS LISA, THAT CLINT

EASTWOOD IS STILL

DIRECTING MOVIES AND I

THINK THAT HE'S A GOOD

STORYTELLER. BUT I

APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT I

KNEW THE STORY, THAT THE

GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA

RUINED THIS GUY'S LIFE FOR

A WHILE, BUT THERE WAS

SOMETHING- I WAS NOT AS

EMOTIONALLY CONNECTED TO

THIS MOVIE AS I SHOULD

HAVE BEEN. AND I DON'T

KNOW IF THAT'S A FAULT OF

THE STAR OF THE MOVIE,

PAUL WALTER HAUSER, WHO

PLAYS THIS KIND OF LIKE,

LIKE, AS A CROSS BETWEEN

SETH ROGEN AND IN OBSERVE

AND REPORT AND KEVIN JAMES

FROM MALL COP, WHICH THIS

WHOLE THING KIND OF HAS,

LIKE HE'S THIS FRUSTRATED AT-

>>> LITTLE BETTER THAN BOTH

OF THOSE.

>>> HE'S ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD,

IT'S JUST A BAD SCRIPT.

>>> WELL, I JUST

WASN'T CONNECTED TO THE

THINGS AS MUCH AS I

COULD'VE BEEN. BUT THAT

SAID, YOU KNOW, I MEAN

IT'S PERFUNCTORY, IT'S OKAY.

I KNEW THE STORY, SO MAYBE

THAT HAD SOME REASON

WHY I WASN'T DRAWN INTO AS

MUCH AS I SHOULD HAVE,

BUT AGAIN, I GIVE PROPS TO

CLINT FOR STILL MAKING MOVIES.

IT'S AN OKAY FILM,

IT'S JUST NOT A GREAT FILM.

>>> HOORAY FOR ENDURANCE.

>>> NO, THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

LIKE, OH, I'M SO- HE'S A 110-

>>> FILMMAKERS MAKE

POLITICAL STATEMENTS.

CALM DOWN.

>>> AS I SAID EARLIER,

SAM ROCKWELL, IS THE

BEST THING IN THE MOVIE.

>>> YOU'VE RUINED THIS

MAN'S LIFE.

>>> NEXT UP IS BOMBSHELL.

LISA.

>>> OKAY, I AM SHOCKED TO

SAY THIS, BUT THIS IS MY

FAVORITE FILM OF THIS BLOCK.

I HONESTLY THOUGHT

I WOULD HAVE NO PATIENCE

FOR IT. IT'S ABOUT HOW THE

WOMEN OF FOX NEWS TOOK

DOWN CEO AND SEXUAL

PREDATOR ROGER AILES.

FIRST OF ALL, IT DIDN'T

HELP TO ME THAT IT'S

MOSTLY MEN WHO CREATED IT.

JAY ROACH DIRECTED,

CHARLES RANDOLPH WROTE IT,

AND IT'S DEFINITELY NOT

PERFECT, ESPECIALLY A

COMPOSITIONAL, FICTIONAL

CHARACTER PLAYED BY THE

GRATING MARGOT ROBBIE.

BUT, THE KEY HERE MAY BE

CHARLIZE THERON HERSELF

WHO PRODUCED IT.

SHE IS OUTSTANDING AS THE

CONTROVERSIAL MEGYN KELLY,

WHO ALONG WITH GRETCHEN

CARLSON, PLAYED HERE BY

NICOLE KIDMAN, ALSO REALLY

GOOD, CONFRONTED THE

BEHEMOTH, AND I DO MEAN

BEHEMOTH, OF SEXUAL AILES-

SEXUAL HARASSMENT. THE

MOVIE PULLS NO PUNCHES IN

TERMS OF ACKNOWLEDGING

THESE WOMEN'S BIASES.

THERE'S SNAPPY EDITING,

THE DIALOGUE IS REALLY

GOOD, AND I THOUGHT THE

ACTING WAS VERY OLD SCHOOL

SCREW BALL DAME IN A WAY

THAT WORKED. TO ME, THIS

IS A NEWSROOM FILLER ABOUT

HOW SEXISM DOESN'T TOW LINES,

EVEN POLITICAL ONES.

>>> LISTEN, I WANT TO TELL

YOU THAT I GIVE PROPS TO

CHARLIZE THERON FOR- I

MEAN, AND THE MAKEUP

DEPARTMENT. I MEAN, SHE

REALLY DOES LOOK LIKE

MEGYN KELLY AND THEY GET A

LOT OF CREDIT FOR IT, BUT, BILL,

YOU USED TO WORK FOR FOX NEWS.

>>> I LIVED THERE, I MEAN. YEAH.

>>> INSIGHT- YOU HAVE AN

INSIGHT INTO THIS THAT

MOST PEOPLE WOULD NOT HAVE.

>>> IT GETS A LOT OF

THINGS RIGHT. THE LOOK AND

FEEL OF IT I THINK IN SOME

WAYS IS BETTER THAN THE

SHOWTIME SERIES THAT WE

JUST HAD CALLED THE

LOUDEST VOICE. HOWEVER IF

THERE'S A WEAK POINT HERE,

IT'S THE AILES CHARACTER

HIMSELF, WHO I THINK IS

MUCH BETTER AS RUSSEL CROW

THAN HERE AS JOHN LITHGOW.

AND THIS IS MUCH MORE A

MOVIE ABOUT THE WOMEN,

AND I THINK IN THAT WAY IT

SUCCEEDS. UNFORTUNATELY,

IT HAS AN AMALGAMATED

CHARACTER IN MARGOT ROBBIE

WHO ISN'T REALLY BASED ON

ONE INDIVIDUAL PERSON, BUT

A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE

AND I THINK THAT DOES IT A

DISSERVICE. BUT I THOUGHT

I WAS WATCHING THE REAL

MEGYN KELLY WHEN I SAW

THIS THING, SO FOR GOOD OR

FOR BAD, I GIVE IT-

>>> CHARLIZE IS GREAT.

>>> YEAH, SHE'S AMAZING.

>>> AND YOU'D RECOMMEND

THE FILM?

>>> I DO RECOMMEND THE FILM.

>>> CHARLIZE THERON IS GOOD,

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO SHOUT-

WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THE

MAKEUP DEPARTMENT. REALLY,

THE SHOUT OUT NEEDS TO GO TO

KAZUHIRO, WHO IS THE SAME

MAKEUP DEPARTMENT

PROSTHETICS GUY THAT DID

WINSTON CHURCHILL, TURNED

GARY OLDMAN INTO WINSTON

CHURCHILL IN THE DARKEST

HOUR, AND HE'S DOING A LOT

OF THE HEAVY LIFTING HERE.

I MEAN, SHE REALLY IS

UNRECOGNIZABLE. I THINK

THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT

THIS JUST KIND OF COMES

DOWN TO THE SAME SORT OF

IMPORTANT SOCIAL ISSUE

COSPLAY THING WHERE YOU'RE

SO TAKEN UP WITH HOW X

PERSON LOOKS LIKE Y FOX

NEWS AFFILIATE THAT YOU

KIND OF STOP GETTING,

IT KEEPS TAKING YOU OUT OF

THE FILM. AND THIS WHOLE

IDEA OF MAKING MEGYN KELLY

LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW,

FEMINIST FREE SPEECH

ADVOCATE IS JUST SO

INCREDIBLY FALSE TO ME GIVEN

HOW MUCH OF A ROLE SHE PLAYED

IN FOX NEWS DURING HER HEYDAY.

I THINK IT'S JUST BULL

>>> HERE'S MY PROBLEM WITH

THIS, AND I MEAN, IT'S AN

OKAY MOVIE, BUT I HAD SEEN

THE LOUDEST VOICE, WHICH

YOU MENTIONED, BILL, WHICH

WAS THE SEVEN-PART

MINISERIES ON SHOWTIME,

AND I THINK RUSSEL CROW

WAS A MUCH BETTER ROGER

AILES AND I THINK THAT

NAOMI WATTS WAS A MUCH

BETTER GRETCHEN CARLSON.

AND IT WAS SO MUCH MORE

COMPREHENSIVE, AND I

UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT

THEIR STORY, THIS IS THE

MEGYN KELLY STORY. BUT

THAT SAID, I WISH I SAW

BOMBSHELL FIRST, BECAUSE

HAVING SEEN THE LOUDEST

VOICE FIRST FOR SEVEN

HOURS WHERE THEY CAN REALLY

GET IN SO MUCH MORE DETAIL,

THIS WAS LIKE WATCHING, YOU

KNOW, READING A READER'S DIGEST

VERSION OF THE SAME STORY.

THAT SAID, IT'S AN OKAY MOVIE,

BUT IT'S ALSO TOO LIGHT.

>>> THIS MOVIE IS MORE

ABOUT THE WOMEN AND HOW

THEY GOT SCREWED OVER.

AND FOR ME, THIS WAS VERY

IMPORTANT FILM TO WATCH,

THAT I FELT THE SYMPATHY

FOR WOMEN I DIDN'T EXPECT

TO FEEL IT FOR.

>>> 1917 IS THE NAME OF A

NEW DRAMA THAT TAKES YOU

INTO THE TRENCHES OF WORLD

WAR I. LET'S TAKE A LOOK.

>>> WE'VE GOT SOLDIERS

TO CROSS HERE.

>>> THAT IS THE GERMAN

FRONT LINE.

>>> FALL BACK! [EXPLOSION]

>>> IF WE'RE NOT CLEVER

ABOUT THIS, NO ONE WILL

GET TO YOUR BROTHER.

[PLANE BUZZING BY]

[WATCHING TICKING]

>>> I WILL.

♪ [DRAMATIC MUSIC]

>>> DAVID, TELL US ABOUT 1917.

>>> SO YOU HAVE THESE TWO

WORLD WAR I INFANTRYMEN

WHO ARE GIVEN A MISSION.

THEY HAVE TO FIND THIS

PLATOON THAT IS SEVERAL

CLICKS OVER TO THE EAST

AND WARN THEM NOT TO GO ON

THIS MORNING ATTACK,

BECAUSE IT TURNS OUT IT'S

AN AMBUSH. NOW, THIS

PROBABLY SOUNDS LIKE EVERY

OTHER WORLD WAR I FILM

YOU'VE SEEN, EXCEPT THERE

IS A BIG DIFFERENCE IN

THAT DIRECTOR SAM MENDES

AND CINEMATOGRAPHER

RICHARD DEAKINS HAVE

CONSTRUCTED IT TO LOOK

LIKE IT'S ONE CONTINUOUS

SHOT FROM BEGINNING TO END.

AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE

PART WHERE IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS

WHERE THEY CAN, LIKE, CUT

AWAY, WHICH IS DURING,

LIKE, A BLACKOUT SCENE IT

HAS THE ILLUSION OF THIS

ONE CONTINUOUS SHOT, WHICH

IS GREAT FOR SUGGESTING

THE RELENTLESSNESS OF WAR,

BUT IS KIND OF A FORMAL

EXERCISE THAT MAKES YOU-

BASICALLY ECLIPSES THE

STORY. I KEPT THINKING

ABOUT HOW IMPRESSIVE THAT

SHOT WAS AND KIND OF

FORGOT WHAT WAS GOING ON

IN THE NARRATIVE.

>>> YEAH, THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS

OF THIS FILM PLUS IT LOOKS

GORGEOUS SORT OF DUST UNDER

CARPET THAT THIS STORY IS,

YOU KNOW, WELL TOLD BUT

WE'VE SEEN IT KIND OF

BEFORE. I'M KIND OF WORLD

WAR I-ED OUT. I MEAN, IT-

NOTHING'S GOING TO BE

BETTER THAN PATHS OF GLORY

FOR ME, I'M SORRY. SO THIS IS-

THERE'S NOTHING NEW HERE FOR ME.

>>> LISA?

>>> I'M WITH THE BOYS FOR

ONCE. I MEAN-

>>> IN THE TRENCHES.

>>> THE FILM, I'M IN THE

FOXHOLE.

>>> IT LITERALLY PUTS YOU

IN THE TRENCHES.

>>> THE FILMMAKING IS

TECHNICALLY EXCELLENT,

BUT AT A CERTAIN POINT I

STARTED WONDERING IF EVERY

PRESTIGE FILMMAKER OF A

CERTAIN GENDER, RACE, AGE,

[COUGH] OLDER WHITE MEN,

THINKS THEY NOW HAVE TO MAKE

THEIR OWN DUNKIRK

BASICALLY. I MEAN, CAN WE

MOVE ON? OR ARE THEY ONLY

REALLY MAKING THESE MOVIES

SET IN WORLD WAR I SO THEY

HAVE AN EXCUSE TO MAKE

MOVIES THAT ARE ONLY ABOUT

WHITE MEN AND ONLY- NO WOMEN

HAVE ANY LINES WHATSOEVER?

>>> WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU

ALL ON THE BRILLIANCE OF

THE TECHNICAL ACHIEVEMENT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY

PULLED THIS THING OFF.

I MEAN, I KEPT SAYING, WHERE

ARE THEY GOING TO CUT

THIS, EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE

PART THAT YOU MENTIONED,

DAVID. IT'S LIKE THAT

SCENE IN GOODFELLAS THE

FIVE MINUTE ONE-SHOT

TRACKING THING. IT'S LIKE A TWO

HOUR VERSION OF THAT.

>>> I WISH I WAS WATCHING

GOODFELLAS.

>>> MORE LIKE HITCHCOCK'S

ROPE WHERE YOU'RE GOING,

WHEN THE HELL ARE THEY

GOING TO CUT HERE?

>>> BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S

ALSO LIKE WATCHING- IT'S

LIKE WATCHING A VIDEO GAME

AND IT MADE ME DIZZY AND

THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A

GOOD THING, BUT I DO-

>>> OH NEIL, WE KNOW WHEN

YOU GET DIZZY IT'S NO GOOD.

>>> BUT IT DID YOU KNOW,

AS I SAID BEFORE, FEEL

LIKE YOU WERE IN THE

TRENCHES, AND I THINK THIS

ACTOR, WHO'S NOT DONE A

LOT OF WORK, WHO'S THE

STAR OF THE MOVIE, GEORGE

MCKAY, REALLY GIVES A GOOD

PERFORMANCE AND I WAS

ABSORBED INTO THIS STORY.

BUT YOU WANT TO KNOW, YOU

SHOULD WATCH THIS FILM AND

THEN FOLLOW IT UP WITH

THIS COMPANION PIECE OF A

DOCUMENTARY THAT CAME OUT

EARLIER THIS YEAR BY PETER

JACKSON, CALLED THEY SHALL

NOT GROW OLD, WHERE YOU

SEE THE REAL THING AND IT'S SO-

THE REAL THING LOOKS SO MUCH

LIKE WHAT SAM MENDES DOES.

>>> I'LL GO A STEP FURTHER.

YOU DON'T NEED TO SEE 1917,

YOU CAN JUST WATCH THE

PETER JACKSON DOCUMENTARY.

>>> IT'S A FASCINATING

COMPANION PIECE AND IT

ACTUALLY ADDS MORE

SUBSTANCE TO IT BECAUSE HE

GETS MORE BRUTAL ON IT,

PETER JACKSON, WITH THIS

REAL FOOTAGE. SHOWING YOU

HOW BAD THE CONDITIONS

WERE. THE SANITARY

CONDITIONS WERE AWFUL, THE

WHOLE THING WAS JUST THE,

YOU KNOW, I THINK BACK TO

BACK THEY'RE GOOD. BUT I THINK

YOU GOTTA BE DAZZLED BY WHAT

SAM MENDES DID. NEXT ONE

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT

IS SOMETHING CALLED THE

SONG OF NAMES. BILL.

>>> DIRECTOR FRANCOIS GIRARD,

WHO GAVE US THIRY-TWO SHORT

FILMS ABOUT GLENN GOULD

A LONG TIME AGO, TELLS AN

EPIC STORY OF FRIENDSHIP

AND BETRAYAL WHEN AN NINE

YEAR OLD JEWISH VIOLIN

PRODIGY IS TAKEN IN DURING

WORLD WAR II BY NON-JEWS

IN LONDON. HE BEFRIENDS

THE FAMILY'S SON AND AT THE

AGE OF TWENTY-ONE IS SUPPOSED

TO MAKE HIS CONCERT DEBUT,

BUT VANISHES. THE BOYS

GROW UP TO BE TIM ROTH AND

CLIVE OWEN AND THE SEARCH

BEGINS. WHY DID HE

DISAPPEAR? WHERE IS HE>

CAN HE STILL PLAY? THE

ACTUAL SONG OF NAMES IS A

WAY THAT JEWS REMEMBER

THOSE WHO WERE KILLED IN

THE HOLOCAUST, SO THE

CAUSE IS NOBLE, BUT THIS

IS A NOBLE MISFIRE.

>>> I DON'T AGREE WITH

THAT AT ALL. I LOVED THIS

FILM BUT I'LL CHIME IN MY

OPINION- MORE OF MY

OPINION IN A MOMENT. DAVID?

>>> YEAH, I LIKED THIS

FILM WHEN I SAW IT IN THE

NINETIES AND IT HAD A

MIRAMAX LABEL SLAPPED ON

THE FRONT OF IT. I CAN'T

BELIEVE THEY'RE STILL

MAKING THESE KIND OF

MIDDLE-BROW DRAMAS ABOUT

THIS SORT OF STUFF. IF YOU

LIKE FRANCOIS GIRARD'S

FILMS, I DO QUITE A BIT,

YOU SHOULD REALLY CHECK

OUT THE RED VIOLIN. IT'S A MUCH

BETTER FILM ABOUT MUSICIANS.

>>> I'M MORE TORN ABOUT

THIS FILM THAN YOU GUYS

ARE, AND I DO THINK IT'S

BECAUSE I'M JEWISH.

HONESTLY, I WAS VERY

AFFECTED BY THE CONCEPT OF

THE SONG OF NAMES AND I

THINK THAT THE MUSIC IS A

REAL STAR HERE. IT'S

WONDERFUL. AND I LIKED THE

SCREENPLAY. JEFFREY CAINE,

WHO WROTE CONSTANT

GARDNER, DID AN ABLE JOB.

THE PROBLEM FOR ME

HONESTLY IS THAT THE

PACING'S A LITTLE SLOW,

THE ACTING IS VERY- I'M

SURPRISED. THIS IS THE

MOST INERT PERFORMANCE

I'VE EVER SEEN FROM EITHER

CLIVE OWEN OR TIM ROTH,

AND THE CINEMATOGRAPHY IS

SO PAINTERLY.

>>> OKAY. WELL DAVID AND

BILL, I COULDN'T DISAGREE

WITH YOU MORE. I THINK

THIS IS A MOVING, STIRRING,

AND BEAUTIFUL FILM, AND

FRANCOIS GIRARD GETS ACROSS-

IT'S A MOVIE REALLY- IT'S NOT

A MOVIE ABOUT MUSIC, IT IS TO

SOME EXTENT, BUT OSCAR

WINNER HOWARD SHORE DID

THE SCORE AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

♪ [VIOLIN MUSIC]

IT'S A MOVIE ABOUT FAITH,

ANTI-SEMITISM, AND

FRIENDSHIP, AND IT'S ALSO

GIRARD GETS THE POINT

ACROSS THAT WE SHOULD

NEVER FORGET. THE SCENE

WHEN YOU FIND OUT WHAT THE

SONG OF THE TITLE, THE

SONG OF NAMES MEANING,

IT'S SO MOVING AND

EMOTIONALLY POWERFUL.

I THINK TIM ROTH AND CLIVE

OWEN ARE QUITE GOOD AND I

THINK THE YOUNG NINE YEAR

OLD CHILD WHO PLAYS THE

JEW FROM THE WARSAW

GHETTO, WHO'S LUCKY ENOUGH

TO GO TO LONDON AND WHERE

HE DOESN'T KNOW IF HIS

FAMILY SURVIVED OR NOT

AFTER THE HOLOCAUST,

I THINK HE GIVES A

REMARKABLE PERFORMANCE.

AND THERE'S A TWENTY-ONE

YEAR OLD VERSION OF HIM TOO.

THAT GUY IS GOOD TOO. I LOVED

THE FILM. WHAT CAN I SAY.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE

SONG OF NAMES. MOVING ON,

THERE'S A NEW SCREEN

ADAPTATION OF CLASSIC

LOUISA MAY ALCOTT NOVEL

LITTLE WOMEN. THIS WAS DIRECTED

BY GRETA GERWIG. HERE'S A CLIP.

>>> THIS IS MEG, AMY, BETH,

AND JO.

[SCREAMING]

>>> I INTEND TO MAKE MY

OWN WAY IN THE WORLD.

>>> NO ONE MAKES THEIR OWN

WAY, LEAST OF ALL A WOMAN.

YOU WILL NEED TO MARRY WELL.

>>> YOU ARE NOT MARRIED

AUNT MARCH.

>>> WELL THAT'S BECAUSE

I'M RICH.

>>> LISA.

>>> WELL THERE HAVE BEEN

MANY, MANY SCREEN, TV, AND

STAGE ADAPTATIONS OF

LOUISA MAY ALCOTT'S

BELOVED CIVIL WAR ERA

YA NOVEL, IT IS A YA NOVEL,

ABOUT FOUR MASSACHUSETTS

SISTERS WHO ARE RICH IN

LOVE AND POOR IN FINANCES,

BUT TO ME THIS IS THE MOST

RAVISHING ONE YET, AND

IT'S THE FIRST THAT REALLY

DOESN'T BETRAY THE

INTENSE FEMINISM OF THE

AUTHOR. IT'S DIRECTED BY

GRETA GERWIG WHO DID

LADYBIRD AND IT HAS AN

INTENSELY GOOD CAST,

INCLUDING SAOIRSE RONAN,

LAURA DERN, TIMOTH ÉE

CHALAMET. THE STORYTELLING

IS LESS CONVENTIONAL. IT'S

TOLD SEQUENTIALLY OUT OF

ORDER, WHICH MAY UPSET

CERTAIN PEOPLE.

>>> I LIKED THAT.

>>> I DID TOO. I THOUGHT

THAT ACTUALLY STRENGTHENED

THE FACT- IT'S VERY HARD

TO TELL THE STORY IN TWO

HOURS. THAT HELPED. AND

IT'S TREMENDOUS ACTING,

CINEMATOGRAPHY, THE

COSTUME AND SET DESIGN IS

REALLY GOOD, BUT TO ME,

WHAT I LOVE ABOUT IT MOST

IS THAT IT CAPTURES THE

BOOK'S WARMTH AND WIT

BUT IT ALSO FOR THE FIRST TIME

IN ANY OF THESE ADAPTATIONS,

ACKNOWLEDGES WHAT HAS

ALWAYS BEEN ALCOTT'S

UNDERLYING MESSAGE, WHICH

IS THAT A TRADITIONAL

HAPPY ENDING FOR WOMEN IS

BASICALLY FICTION, AND IT

PRECLUDES ANY ECONOMIC OR

PERSONAL FREEDOM. I THINK

THAT THE MOVIE HAS A BEAUTIFULLY

AMBIGUOUS ENDING.

>>> I LIKED IT, NOT ONLY-

>>> ARE YOU A JO OR AMY?

>>> I'M A JAMY. I'M A JAMY.

>>> RIGHT UP TO THE HAIR.

>>> YEAH, THE HAIR- I DID

THIS HAIR, YOU GUYS, FOR

LITTLE WOMEN. THIS IS HOW THEY-

>>> I'LL JUST SAY THIS.

IT'S NOT ONLY ONE OF MY

FAVORITE MOVIES OF THE YEAR,

I THINK IT'S PROBABLY

ONE OF THE BEST ADAPTATIONS

EVER DONE. AND, YOU KNOW,

THIS COMPLAINT THAT IS JUMPS

AROUND TOO MUCH IS- MAKES

IT FAR MORE INTERESTING TO ME

AND MUCH MORE LIKE THE NOVEL.

THESE CRYBABIES WHO ARE SAYING

I CAN'T PAY ATTENTION, SHOULD

PUT THEIR PHONES DOWN AND

LOOK UP AT THE SCREEN.

>>> I AGREE WITH YOU.

>>> WHAT YOU SAID. I CAN'T

BELIEVE I'M AGREEING WITH

YOU, BUT YES.

>>> I THINK THE CHRONOLOGY

ACTUALLY BREATHES LIFE INTO

STORY THAT'S BEEN TOLD A LOT

OF TIMES. BUT I'M WITH YOU GUYS.

IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE LITERARY

ADAPTATIONS OF THE LAST

DECADE AND WE SHOULD

REALLY SHOUT OUT

FLORENCE PUGH, WHO IS

ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL IN A

SUPPORTING ROLE IN THIS.

>>> YEAH. MERYL STREEP IS

ALSO IN THIS AS A

SUPPORTING ROLE AND SHE

ACTUALLY STEALS EVERY

SCENE THAT SHE'S IN. BUT I

HAVE TO TELL YOU, YOU

KNOW, BEFORE I SAW THIS,

THIS IS THE SEVENTH

VERSION OF THIS PARTICULAR

MOVIE AND GOING IN I WAS

LIKE, OH NO. I'VE SEEN

FOUR OF THEM ALREADY,

I'M LIKE, WHAT CAN THEY

POSSIBLY ADD THAT'S NEW TO THIS?

WHEN THIS WAS PUBLISHED IN THE

LATE 1800S, THIS HAD A LOT OF

RADICAL FEMINIST THEMES

THAT SEEM ACTUALLY SO

RELEVANT TODAY, AND

GERWIG, SOMETIMES SUBTLY,

SOMETIMES NOT SO SUBTLETY,

ACTUALLY GETS THOSE POINTS

ACROSS. AND I FELT

TIMOTH ÉE CHALAMET WAS

TERRIFIC. I THINK THE-

>>> HE WAS WONDERFUL.

>>> I THINK THE ENSEMBLE

CAST WAS GREAT. CHRIS

COOPER AS THE NEIGHBOR.

>>> THE GRANDFATHER.

>>> IS GOOD. IT'S A

TREMENDOUS ADAPTATION.

>>> MY ONLY CONCERN NEIL

IS THE YOUNG AUDIENCES

WILL GO TO THIS AND NOT

BELIEVE HOW KIND AND GOOD

THESE PEOPLE ARE. [LAUGHING]

>>> WELL, IT'S THE END OF

THE YEAR AND TIME DOESN'T

ALLOW US TO DO A FULL TEN

BEST LIST, BUT WE'RE GOING

TO GO AROUND THE PANEL AND

COUNT DOWN OUR TOP THREE FILMS

OF 2019. KICK IT OFF, LISA.

WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER THREE PICK?

>>> THE SOUVENIR. JOANNA

HOGGS BRILLIANTLY WITHHOLDING

MOVIE ABOUT A FILM STUDENT'S

RELATIONSHIP WITH A

GASLIGHTER EXTRAORDINAIRE.

>>> ALL RIGHT, DAVID.

NUMBER THREE PICK, GO.

>>> THE IRISHMAN. MARTIN

SCORSESE'S BEAUTIFUL

MOBSTER EPIC THAT'S ALSO

AN ELEGY TO THE GENRE.

IT'S GREAT HOW HE TOOK HIS

GANGSTER MOVIES AND HIS

SPIRITUAL MOVIES AND PUT

THEM TOGETHER IN ONE BIG

THREE AND A HALF HOUR EPIC.

>>> WELL THAT MOVIE IS

STILL PLAYING AND I'M NOT

GOING TO FINISH IT. SORRY.

>>> I THINK HE JUST

EXPRESSED THAT BRILLIANTLY.

>>> I THINK IT'S, YOU MUST

SEE THE MOVIE IF YOU'RE A

SCORSESE FAN, BUT IT IS A

BIT TOO LONG. COULD'VE

BEEN CUT. ALL RIGHT.

>>> WRONG AND WRONG.

>>> THIS IS A LITTLE UNCUT

GEM AND IT'S CALLED QUEEN

AND SLIM. YOU'VE GOT THIS

FIRST DATE. IT'S GET OUT'S

DANIEL KALUUYA AND JODIE

TURNER-SMITH KILL A WHITE

COP AND GO ON THE RUN.

THIS PUSHES A LOT OF

REALLY INTERESTING SOCIAL

BUTTONS AND HITS THE

BULLSEYE AND I JUST THINK

IT'S ONE OF THE BEST MOVIES.

>>> YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE

THE OTHER- THE FLIP SIDE

OF THE HATE U GIVE, I THINK,

FROM LAST YEAR.

>>> BUT IMMENSELY BETTER

THAN THAT.

>>> NO, I LOVE THE HATE U GIVE

BETTER BUT IT'S A VERY GOOD

MOVIE.

>>> I SUPPORT WHAT Y'ALL DOING.

>>> IT WAS SELF-DEFENSE.

>>> POWER TO THE PEOPLE.

>>> MY NUMBER THREE PICK

IS UNCUT GEMS, AND WE

TALKED- I DON'T KNOW WHAT

I COULD ADD TO THIS THAT

WE HAVEN'T SEEN EARLIER, BUT-

>>> BUT YOU'LL TRY.

>>> MOVE ON, MOVE ON.

>>> TELL ME ADAM SANDLER

DOESN'T DESERVE AN OSCAR

WHEN YOU WATCH THE LAST

TEN MINUTES OF THAT MOVIE.

ALL RIGHT, NUMBER TWO PICK

OF THE YEAR. GO AHEAD, LISA.

>>> OH, MINE IS US. JORDAN

PEELE'S SOPHOMORE EFFORT.

MORE DEMANDING THAN THE LAST

MAYBE BUT ALSO MORE REWARDING.

>>> I DON'T KNOW, I THINK GET

OUT WAS BETTER BUT US IS GOOD.

>>> THERE YOU GO.

>>> LUPITA'S GOOD FOR THE

ONE CHARACTER AND OVER THE

TOP FOR THE OTHER ONE I THINK.

>>> WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE?

♪ [OMINOUS MUSIC]

>>> IT'S US.

>>> ALL RIGHT.

>>> I DON'T CARE WHAT HE

SAYS, IT'S A GOOD PICK.

>>> IT'S A GOOD MOVIE.

>>> I SAID IT'S A GOOD PICK.

I JUST DON'T, I THINK IT'S-

>>> MOVING ON, BOYS.

>>> ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON.

GIVE ME YOUR NUMBER TWO

PICK OF THE YEAR, DAVE.

>>> PARASITE.

>>> WOO. SO GOOD. YES.

>>> FILMMAKER BONG

JOON-HO'S MASTERPIECE AND

YES, THE "M" WORD,

MASTERPIECE, ABOUT CLASS

WARFARE IS NOT ONLY AS

GOOD AS THE

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