Talking Pictures with Neil Rosen

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Holiday Movie Preview, Cynthia Erivo

Film critic Neil Rosen invites viewers to explore the movie industry with him each month, as he dives in to the latest releases from Hollywood and independent producers. Interviews with actors and other industry insiders, as well as commentary from fellow critics, provide varying perspectives on the ever-changing world of film.

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>> THIS WEEK ON TALKING

PICTURES WITH NEIL ROSEN.

WE LOOK AT THE LATEST MARTIN

SCORSESE CRIME DRAMA

THE IRISHMAN.

THE DOCUMENTARY ABOUT THE

NATIONAL ENQUIRER.

WE WILL CHECK OUT THE NEW BIOPIC

ABOUT UNDERGROUND RAILROAD

ICON HARRIET TUBMAN, ALONG WITH

MY INTERVIEW WITH ITS STAR,

CYNTHIA ERIVO.

WE LOOK AT A HOST OF FILMS

COMING YOUR WAY WITH OUR

HOLIDAY MOVIE PREVIEW.

ALL OF THAT AND MANY MORE MOVIE

PICKS COMING UP.

♪ [THEME MUSIC]

>> I AM NEIL ROSEN.

WELCOME TO TALKING PICTURES.

IT IS OUR MONTHLY ROUND TABLE

SHOW WHERE WE TALK ABOUT WHAT

IS WORTH WATCHING AND WHAT IS

NOT WHEN IT COMES TO NEW

RELEASES, HIDDEN GEMS,

AND HOLLYWOOD CLASSICS.

JOINING ME TODAY ARE

BILL MCCUDDY FROM GOLD DERBY,

LISA ROSMAN FROM SIGNS AND

SIRENS AND JACK RICO FROM

SHOWBIZ CAFE. LET'S START OUT

WITH A LOOK AT A FEW NEW

FILMS HITTING THEATERS THIS

MONTH BEGINNING WITH THE

ANTICIPATED MARTIN SCORSESE FILM

THE IRISHMAN.

STARRING ROBERT DENIRO AS

A HITMAN FOR THE MOB AND

AL PACINO AS UNION LEADER

JIMMY HOFFA. LET'S TAKE A LOOK

AT A CLIP.

>> HEY MY FRIEND.

I GOT THAT KID I WAS TALKING TO

YOU ABOUT HERE.

>> I WANT TO PUT THEM ON THE

PHONE, LET YOU TALK TO HIM OKAY?

>> HELLO?

>> IS THAT FRANK?

>> YES.

>> HI YA FRANK.

THIS IS JIMMY HOFFA.

I HEARD YOU PAINT HOUSES.

[BREAKING GLASS]

>> NO, NO, PLEASE.

>> YES, I DO.

>> JACK, TELL US ABOUT "THE

IRISHMAN".

>> WELL IT IS BASED

ON A BOOK CALLED I HEARD YOU

PAINT HOUSES BY CHARLES BRANT.

MARTIN SCORSESE HAS BEEN TRYING

TO DO THIS MOVIE FOR A LONG

TIME. AND FINALLY GOT TO DO

IT WITH NETFLIX

IT IS DIRECTED BY HIM, PRODUCED

BY HIM, AND IT STARS

ROBERT DENIRO, JOE PESCI, RAY

ROMANO, AL PACINO ANNA PAQUIN.

IT IS ONE OF THE GREAT MOVIES HE

HAS DONE SINCE CASINO.

IT IS ABOUT AN IRISH HITMAN

BY THE NAME OF FRANK SHEERAN,

AND HIS ROLE IN THE MURDER

MYSTERY OF JIMMY HOFFA.

ONE OF THE GREAT UNSOLVED

MYSTERIES IN AMERICA.

THIS IS LIKE A COUNTER HISTORY.

IT IS A REVISIONIST HISTORY

ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED

COMPARED TO THE TRADITIONAL

STORIES THAT WE KNOW ABOUT

JIMMY HOFFA.

THERE IS NOT MUCH YOU CAN SAY

ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS AN EPIC OPERA.

IT IS TRAGIC, BUT IT IS FUNNY.

IT IS RUTHLESSLY VIOLENT.

TRADEMARK SCORSESE.

WE SEE HIM AT THE PEAK OF HIS

POWERS.

WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING LIKE

THIS SINCE CASINO.

FOR ME, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS IS

THAT IT IS A MASTER CLASS IN

LONG FORM STORYTELLING.

I HAVE NOT SEEN A 3.5 HOUR MOVIE

MOVE THIS FAST SINCE THIS FILM.

>> I CAN'T AGREE WITH THIS.

I HAVE A FEELING LISA LIKED

THE FILM TOO AND

I AM THE LONE DISSENTER HERE.

FOR ME, LIKE GODFATHER THREE, IT

IS NICE TO HAVE THESE PEOPLE

BACK TOGETHER BUT THIS STORY IS

TOO LONG.

AT HAS BEEN TOLD BEFORE BY DAVID

MAMET AND DANNY DEVITO ALONG

WITH JACK NICHOLSON IN A

MOVIE CALLED HOFFA.

THEY HAVE NOT DONE

MUCH TO THE STORY EXCEPT

DE-AGE EVERYBODY TO MAKE THEM

LOOK 20 AND 30 AND 40 YEARS

YOUNGER.

NO ONE IS MENTIONING HOW THIS

DOESN'T WORK.

ROBERT DENIRO LOOKS LIKE A

CABBAGE PATCH DOLL.

YOU HAVE GOT A PUFFY PINK FACE,

THIS DISTRACTED ME THROUGHOUT

THE WHOLE FILM.

THE ONLY ONE I LIKED WATCHING

WAS JOE PESCI WHO GIVES A

REFINED LAID BACK PERFORMANCE

AND HE'S THE BEST THING ABOUT

THE FILM. DOES NOT NEED TO BE

THIS LONG.

>> THE ONLY THING I AGREE

WITH IS THAT PESCI IS AMAZING.

THEY PULL PESCI OUT OF

RETIREMENT.

THEY REPORTEDLY HAD ASKED HIM 50

TIMES BEFORE HE CONSENTED.

HE IS AMAZING.

WE HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM LIKE

THIS.

POWERFUL, FULL OF GRAVITAS.

GRAVITAS IS THE KEY TO WHY

LOVE THIS FILM.

YES, HE HAS COVERED THIS

MATERIAL BEFORE, BUT THIS IS A

NEW SCORSESE TO ME.

THIS IS LIKE CINEMA GRAVITAS.

IT IS GROWN-UP AMERICAN

FILMMAKING.

YOU CAN ALMOST BE FORGIVEN FOR

NOT LIKING IT BECAUSE SOMETHING

LIKE THIS IS SO RARELY ON

AMERICAN SCREENS ANYMORE, IT IS

A POWERFUL FILM.

>> OKAY, TO ADDRESS THE

DE-AGING THING, THEY

SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

TO DE-AGE THESE PEOPLE.

IT DID NOT BOTHER ME, BUT IN THE

BEGINNING OF THE MOVIE

WHEN THEY CALLED DENIRO THE KID

AND HE'S DELIVERING MEAT ON

A TRUCK AND HE'S SUPPOSE TO

BE TWENTY-FIVE YEARS OLD,

MY WIFE, WHO SAT WITH ME

AT THE MOVIES SAID,

I THINK HE LOOKS 50. SO THAT

WASN'T VERY REALISTIC.

IT IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF

SCORSESE FILM.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE HUMOR

OF GOOD FELLOWS AND CASINO, YOU

ARE NOT GOING TO FIND ANY.

THIS IS RESTRAINED, YOU KNOW,

HE PULLS BACK.

PESCI WOULD BE THE NATURAL

CHOICE TO PLAY THE CRAZY JIMMY

HOFFA CHARACTER, BUT I LIKE HOW

THEY DID THE REVERSE CASTING.

THIS IS A SAGA.

THIS IRISHMAN PLAYED BY ROBERT

DE NIRO WHO IS TRYING TO CONNECT

WITH HIS DAUGHTER.

THE WOMEN ROLES IN THIS ARE -

>> IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT HOW

MUCH I LOVE THIS MOVIE THAT I AM

NOT YELLING ABOUT HOW MUCH

THE WOMEN ARE DEMOTED IN

THIS FILM.

IT IS SUCH AN EXTRAORDINARY

WORK.

IT IS SO UNREPENTANTLY FROM A

MALE PERSPECTIVE THAT I JUST

LET IT BE.

>> BUT IT SPANS AMERICAN

HISTORY. WE'RE LOOKING AT

THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION,

THE BOTCHED NIXON PRESIDENCY,

AND THEN THINGS LIKE THEY

RE-CREATE KILLING JOEY GALLO

IN FRONT OF UMBERTOS CLAM

HOUSE IN LITTLE ITALY.

I WASN'T BORED.

IT IS TOO LONG. IT'S 3.5 HOURS.

IT WAS MADE FOR NETFLIX, SO I DO

NOT THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING

TO SEE IT IN ONE SWOOP.

>> NETFLIX DOESN'T CARE IF YOU

GO TO THE MOVIE THEATER.

IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE SEEN

IN A MOVIE THEATER.

LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

IT IS NOT CINEMATIC IN SCOPE.

HALF OF THE MOVIE TAKES PLACE IN

A CAR.

BREAK IT UP INTO THREE PARTS.

>> I DISAGREE WITH YOU.

IT IS A RAVISHING LOOKING FILM.

>> I LIKE THE FILM, IT IS NOT

YOUR TYPICAL SCORSESE BUT

IT'S AN EPIC.

NEXT UP IS A NEW BIOPIC ABOUT

HARRIET TUBMAN CALLED HARRIET.

>> IN A PERFECT WORLD THERE

WOULD BE MANY BIOPICS ALREADY

OF HARRIET TUBMAN BUT

UNBELIEVABLY, THIS IS THE FIRST.

HERE'S THE THING, IT IS DIRECTED

BY THE DIRECTOR OF EVE'S BAYOU,

KASI LEMMONS, WHO WEIRDLY

HAS NOT MADE A MOVIE SINCE

THAT ONE, EVEN THOUGH IT

WAS GREAT. HARRIET TUBMAN

IS PLAYED BY CYNTHIA ERIVO

WHO IS FANTASTIC AND

THE TWO OF THEM TOGETHER REALLY

CAPTURE TUBMAN'S BRAVERY

AND HEART.

IT IS A INSPIRING STORY OF HOW

THIS YOUNG SLAVE WOMAN NOT

ONLY FREED HERSELF BUT

COUNTLESS OTHER SLAVES.

UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS A BUT,

THE FILMMAKING IS FORMULAIC.

I WOULD SAY WHAT THE KIDS LIKE

TO CALL "BASIC."

THE POWER OF HARRIET TUBMAN

DOES SHINE HERE, BUT I WAS

DISAPPOINTED. I JUST FELT LIKE

IT COULD HAVE BEEN A FINER

VEHICLE.

EVERY FLASHBACK SHE HAS IS THE

EXACT SAME FLASHBACK.

>> THIS IS A FILM ABOUT SLAVERY

BUT PUT ON THE FORMAT OF

A LIFETIME MOVIE.

>> IT'S VERY LIFETIME-Y.

WITH A BIGGER BUDGET AND

BETTER CINEMATOGRAPHY.

>> IT IS A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT

FOR ME.

WHEN YOU COMPARE THIS TO BIRTH

OF A NATION, OR 12 YEARS A

SLAVE, IT HAS NO GRAVITAS.

YOU LOSE YOURSELF.

IT IS NOT MEMORABLE IN ANY WAY.

IT IS BARELY PASSABLE.

>> NO DISRESPECT TO THE ACTORS,

IT IS LIKE THE CAST THE LEAD,

SHE'S GREAT, AND EVERYBODY ELSE

WAS AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

I AGREE WITH THE LIFETIME THING

COMPLETELY.

I THINK A LOT OF THE DRAMATIC

MOMENTS IN THIS FILM ARE

MISSING.

THEY ARE NOT THERE.

WE SEE HOW SHE ESCAPED ONCE, BUT

EVERY TIME SHE GOES BACK AND

BRINGS OTHER PEOPLE IT CUTS FROM

YOU WANT TO GO,

TO HEY, WE ARE FREE.

>> WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO?

>> THERE WERE PLACES WHERE THEY

COULD HAVE BEEN MORE ATTENTION

AND IT WAS NOT THERE.

THAT IS A DISSERVICE TO THE

STORY.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT IS

A LIFETIME TYPE OF MOVIE.

THAT SAID, I THINK IT IS A GOOD

PRIMER IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THE

STORY.

IT IS NOT THE MOST INNOVATIVE

STORYTELLING, BUT IT IS PILOTED

BY CYNTHIA ERIVO'S PERFORMANCE.

AND I THINK SHE'S TERRIFIC.

AND I THINK JANEELE MON ÁE

ALSO GIVES A VERY GOOD

PERFORMANCE AS THE --

>> AS THE FREED WOMAN WHO

HELPS HER. SHE'S ALWAYS AMAZING.

JANELLE IS AN AMAZING ACTOR.

SHE DOESN'T GET ENOUGH CREDIT

FOR THAT.

>> ALRIGHT, WELL ANYWAY,

I SAT DOWN WITH CYNTHIA ERIVO

AND TALKED TO HER ABOUT THE

MOVIE HARRIET. LET'S TAKE A

LOOK.

>> DID YOU FEEL THE WEIGHT OF

RESPONSIBILITY OF DOING THIS?

HARRIET TUBMAN, TO MY KNOWLEDGE,

NEVER HAD A FEATURE-LENGTH FILM

MADE ABOUT HER.

WAS THERE ALL THIS PRESSURE TO

GET IT RIGHT?

IF YOU DON'T GET IT RIGHT, IS

THAT GOING ON IN YOUR HEAD?

>> I FELT THE RESPONSIBILITY.

THAT DOES NOT FRIGHTEN ME.

THAT PROBABLY PUSHES ME AND

MAKES ME MORE DETERMINED TO DO

THE THINGS I NEED TO DO IN ORDER

TO TRY TO GET IT RIGHT.

IT MEANS I JUST PUT EVERYTHING

I AM INTO IT.

HOPEFULLY THAT SERVED ME WELL.

YOU NEVER KNOW UNTIL YOU SEE

SOMETHING.

I DID HAVE THAT IN MY MIND THAT

I WANTED TO REALLY GET THIS

RIGHT AND DO HER JUSTICE AND

YEAH, TELL HER STORY.

>> NEXT THING WE'RE GOING TO

TALK ABOUT IS SOMETHING CALLED

JOJO RABBIT.

BILL, GOOD LUCK DESCRIBING THIS

ONE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> EXACTLY WHAT IS THIS MOVIE?

>> HAVE FUN KID.

>> THIS IS GOING TO BE A

CONTROVERSIAL FILM.

IT IS A DARK COMEDY STARRING

ADOLF HITLER.

WRITER DIRECTOR TAIKA WAITITI

PLAYS THE FUROR WHO APPEARS ONLY

TO 10-YEAR-OLD ROMAN GRIFFIN

DAVIS.

IT IS WORLD WAR II GERMANY AND

THE YOUNG ROMAN JUST WANTS

TO BE A NAZI.

HE GOES TO A KINDER-CAMP

RUN BY SAM ROCKWELL WHERE HE

REFUSES TO KILL A BUNNY AND

GETS THE TITLE NICKNAME. MOM

SCARLETT JOHANSSON IS SUPPORTIVE

BUT SHE IS HIDING A YOUNG JEWISH

GIRL IN THE HOUSE.

SHE IS PLAYED BY THOMASIN

MCKENZIE.

NONE OF THIS SHOULD WORK.

DESPITE DRAMATIC TONE SHIFTS,

OR MAYBE BECAUSE OF THEM,

THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE

FILMS OF THE YEAR SO FAR.

I WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT

OUT TO JOJO'S BEST FRIEND YORKI

PLAYED BY ARCHIE YATES

WHO STEALS EVERY SCENE HE IS IN.

>> I HAVE MIXED FEELINGS.

I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU'RE

SAYING, BUT TO ME THE MOVIE DID

NOT COME TO LIFE UNTIL THE LAST

30 MINUTES.

THERE IS A SCENE THAT

ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING THAT THE

MOVIE IS.

FROM THAT MOMENT, THE MOVIE

PIERCES THROUGH THE SCREEN.

THE LITTLE BOY IS EXCELLENT.

I UNDERSTAND THE MEL BROOKS-IAN

SATIRE ON HITLER, BUT THIS MOVIE

JUST SEEMED OUT OF PLACE TODAY

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE

RATIONAL FOR MAKING IT.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING

THAT.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK THE WHOLE CAST IS

GOOD.

I LEARNED FROM THREE BILLBOARDS

OUTSIDE OF EBBING, MISSOURI THAT

NOT EVEN SAM ROCKWELL CAN SAVE

CERTAIN FILMS FOR ME AND THIS

IS ANOTHER ONE THAT IRONICALLY

HAS SAM ROCKWELL.

WHAT IS THE POINT?

TO SHOW HOW BRAIN CONDITIONING

WORKS?

TO SHOW THAT EMPATHY DOES NOT

COME NATURALLY?

JUST TO BE A SURREALIST SATIRE?

WE ARE LIVING IN REAL LIFE.

BECAUSE OF THAT, I DID NOT HAVE

THE PATIENCE FOR THIS MOVIE.

>> WE NEED A GOOD ANTI-HATE

SATIRE.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU BILL.

SATIRES ON HITLER'S FROM

TO BE OR NOT TO BE, TO THE

PRODUCERS --

>> WHAT A GREAT GENRE.

>> THIS IS AN ORIGINAL UNUSUAL

FILM THAT I DID NOT KNOW WHERE

THIS THING WAS GOING IN THE

BEGINNING.

ALL OF A SUDDEN IT IS SHOWING

BLIND ALLEGIANCE TO HITLER

YOUTH AND I'M GOING, WHAT IS

GOING ON HERE?

IT IS FUNNY BUT I AM A LITTLE

OFFENDED.

ALL OF THE SUDDEN THIS THING

TAKES THIS TURN AND EVERYTHING

MAKES SENSE.

I AM EMOTIONALLY MOVED WHEN HE

DISCOVERS THE JEWISH GIRL THAT

SCARLETT JOHANSSON, HIS MOTHER,

IS HIDING IN THE ATTIC.

SHE IS WONDERFUL -- THE GIRL WHO

PLAYS HER.

I AM MOVED BY THIS MOVIE.

I'M WITH YOU. IT'S ON MY TEN

BEST LIST ALSO.

>> BUT IS IT WORTH RECOMMENDING?

>> IT'S ON MY TEN BEST LIST.

>> IT EMOTIONALLY MOVED ME

AND IT IS FUNNY.

HOW MANY TIMES YOU SEE SOMETHING

THAT FRESH AND ORIGINAL?

>> YOUR BEST LIST ALWAYS HAS

A GRAIN OF SALT. ALWAYS.

>> KOSHER SALT.

>> A NEW TERMINATOR MOVIE

HITTING THEATERS CALLED

DARK FATE. JACK?

>> THIS BRINGS BACK JAMES

CAMERON TO THE FRANCHISE.

THIS IS DIRECTED BY TIM

MILLER WHO DID DEAD POOL

SO HE'S A GREAT ACTION DIRECTOR.

IT BRINGS BACK THE WHOLE CAST

INCLUDING LINDA HAMILTON.

IT TAKES PLACE 22 YEARS AFTER

TERMINATOR TWO.

IT IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME PLOT

WE HAVE SEEN, WHERE TWO CYBORGS

FROM THE FUTURE COME BACK TO THE

PRESENT TIME.

ONE OF THEM TO KILL SOMEONE,

THAT'S GOING TO EFFECT THE

FUTURE AND THE

OTHER TO PROTECT THEM.

IN THIS CASE, I THOUGHT THIS WAS

PROBABLY THE BEST TERMINATOR

MOVIE SINCE TERMINATOR TWO:

JUDGEMENT DAY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> SO GOOD.

>> IT IS ARGUABLY ONE OF THE

BEST ACTION MOVIES OF 2019

IN MY PARTICULAR CASE.

>> AND THE REASON IT'S

SO GOOD IS THAT

JAMES CAMERON IS BACK AND

HE WROTE IT AND PRODUCED IT.

>> LINDA HAMILTON IS THE SPARK.

>> EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS

MOVIE KICKS BUTT.

I LOVE THIS MOVIE. AND I WAS

HONESTLY MORE SURPRISED

THAN ANYONE COULD POSSIBLY

BE THAT I DID.

ONE CAVEAT, I DO NOT THINK ALL

THE LOGIC OF THE PLOT AND

TECHNOLOGY WORKS.

BUT, WHO CARES?

>> IT NEVER DOES.

>> THEY COME FROM THE FUTURE,

THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL IN THE

PAST.

>> DON'T MAN-TERRUPT BECAUSE

THIS MOVIE STAR THREE

POWERFUL BROAD'S.

IT INTRODUCES A NEW CINEMATIC

TROPE, WHICH IS THE POWER CRONE.

LINDA HAMILTON IS 63 YEARS OLD

AND SHE IS PLAYING AN ACTION

HERO.

NOT ONLY HAS SHE SURVIVED

POTENTIAL APOCALYPSES AND

TERMINATORS, SHE HAS SURVIVED

SEXISM, MENOPAUSE --

[LAUGHTER]

>> SHE IS AMAZING. AND

MACKENZIE DAVIS WHO PLAYS AN

AUGMENTED HUMAN FROM THE FUTURE

IS HELLA SEXY. AND NATALIA REYES

THE THIRD WOMAN IN THE TRIO

IS SUCH A PERFECT HEROINE.

I LOVED EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.

I LOVE THAT IT'S SET IN MEXICO

CITY, I LOVE THAT IT FOLDS IN

A CRITIQUE OF OUR CURRENT

QUOTE UNQUOTE DETAINEE SYSTEM.

IT IS AN AMAZING MOVIE.

>> I LIKE THIS MOVIE TOO.

IT IS PROBABLY THE BEST ONE

SINCE TERMINATOR TWO AND

PROBABLY TIES WITH THAT ONE.

THE STORY IS THE SAME, WE HAVE

LEARNED OVER AND OVER.

HE COMES BACK, AND BACK.

AND IT IS OK.

[LAUGHTER]

>> WHEN ARNOLD SHOWS UP IN THE

MOVIE, IT SORT OF GRINDS TO A

HALT FOR A SECOND AND THEN

IT GETS A LITTLE DRAMATIC

FOR A MOMENT

AND THEN THE WOMEN TAKE BACK

OVER AND IT GOES RIGHT INTO A

FULL ACTION MOVIE.

>> HE'S NOT THE ULTIMATE SAVIOR

WHICH IS SO GOOD.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS AS A LATINX

FILM CRITIC, THIS IS LATINX.

THE FUTURE OF AMERICA, ACCORDING

TO JAMES CAMERON, IS LATINX.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPOSING, AND

A GREAT SOCIAL COMMENTARY.

>> THE FUTURE IS LATINX

AND FEMINIST. AMAZING.

>> NOT ONLY IS IT SO MUCH FUN,

BUT THE TECHNOLOGY WHICH I

LOVED IN TERMINATOR TWO, WHEN

THESE TERMINATORS GET KILLED

THEY MELT.

THAT CGI TECHNOLOGY HAS IMPROVED

100 TIMES.

>> IF ONLY MARTIN SCORSESE

HAD USED SOME OF THAT IN THE

IRISHMAN. [LAUGHTER]

>> GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE.

>> IT'S A LOT OF FUN AND I

RECOMMEND IT. [LAUGHTER]

SCANDALOUS IS THE NAME

OF A NEW DOCUMENTARY ABOUT THE

HISTORY OF THE FAMED TABLOID

THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER.

LISA, TELL US ABOUT THIS.

>> I THINK THIS MOVIE WOULD BE

A GREAT COMPANION TO THE ROY

COHN DOCUMENTARY THAT WE

TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.

IT FOCUSES NOT ONLY ON THE

HISTORY OF THE NATIONAL

ENQUIRER, BUT ITS INFLUENCE ON

THE AMERICAN LANDSCAPE,

ESPECIALLY OUR POLITICS.

YOU GUYS KNOW, I WORKED FOR A

DECADE IN THE GOSSIP INDUSTRY

WHICH I AM NOT PROUD OF.

NOT EVEN I UNDERSTOOD THE FULL

EXTENT OF THIS TABLOID'S

NEFARIOUS HISTORY.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY FINANCED BY

THE MAFIA, HELLO.

THAT IS AMAZING.

IT MOVES US THROUGH THAT

LEGENDARY TAKEDOWN OF GARY HART

WHICH CHANGED AMERICAN POLITICS

FOR GOOD.

IT IS EXTREMELY AND TERRIBLY

INCESTUOUS RELATIONSHIP WITH

PRESIDENT TRUMP.

THIS STORY IS BETTER GOSSIP THAN

THE GOSSIP IT REPORTS.

AT ALSO SHOWS HOW GOSSIP AS

A COMMODITY HAS REALLY WEAKENED

AMERICAN VALUES AND HELPED US

GET IN THIS MESS.

>> WHAT'S REMARKABLE IS THAT

THEY DID BREAK SOME STORIES,

LIKE OJ --

>> THEY BEAT THE COPS.

IT IS AMAZING.

THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER ACTUALLY

SOLVED --

>> IT ACTUALLY CHANGED

EVERYTHING ABOUT AMERICA.

>> PEOPLE LIKE JUDITH REGAN

WHO I WORKED WITH AT FOX

NEWS WHO WORKED THERE

EARLY ON IN HER CAREER,

THERE WERE CREDIBLE PEOPLE

BEHIND THE SCENES.

THAT IS WHAT YOU LEARN ABOUT

HERE.

I WAS ENTERTAINED BY IT.

>> I THOUGHT THIS WAS A

HIGHLY ENTERTAINING DOCUMENTARY.

I LEARNED SO MUCH.

IT REALLY IS TO ME -- AS A

JOURNALIST -- UNDERSTANDING THE

IMPOSING NATURE OF WHAT THE

NATIONAL ENQUIRER DID FOR THE

REST OF JOURNALISM.

>> AND WHEN YOU SAY DID,

YOU MEAN RUINED.

>> RUINED TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

THE BOB HOPE STORY WAS

INCREDIBLY --

>> IT WAS CALLED CATCH AND KILL.

>> HE HAD A CASTING COUCH --

>> HE SQUASHED THE STORY --

>> AND YOU KNOW THIS TOO,

THAT IS REAL STUFF.

THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

THEY SQUASHED ONE STORY SO THEY

CAN TELL ANOTHER AND VICE VERSA.

>> REFERENCES A LOT OF RONAN

FARROW AND HARVEY WEINSTEIN THAT

IS HAPPENING TODAY AND WAS

HAPPENING BACK THEN WITH HOPE

AND EVERYBODY ELSE.

>> THE IRONY IS THAT THE

DOCUMENTARY IS OF BETTER QUALITY

THAN THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER WAS.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER WAS A

JOKE, NO MAINSTREAM MEDIA HAS

ADOPTED A LOT OF THE TECHNIQUES

OF THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER.

I ALSO FOUND IT INTERESTING

AT THE BEGINNING OF THE

DOCUMENTARY THAT

THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER WAS

SHOWING THESE BLOODY CRIME SCENE

PHOTOS, AND THE GUY WHO WAS --

INTERESTING ABOUT HIM, THIS GUY

POPE WHO WAS THE OWNER OF THE

MAGAZINE, HE GOES I WANT TO GET

INTO SUPERMARKETS.

WE CAN'T SHOW THESE PHOTOGRAPHS

IN SUPERMARKETS. GREAT.

WE'LL DO CELEBRITY TABLOID

JOURNALISM.

THEY JUST MADE THAT SWITCH AND

IT IS VERY INTERESTING.

NOT ONLY WITH BOB HOPE, BUT THEY

ALSO SQUASHED THE COSBY THING.

THEY HAD ALL THIS DIRT ON COSBY,

AND HE WAS LIKE, YOU WANT

EXCLUSIVES TO THE SET OF THE

COSBY SHOW? SQUASH THE STORY.

SO IT WAS ALL THIS

BRIBING AND TRADING.

FASCINATING DOCUMENTARY.

CHECK IT OUT.

>> THE HOLIDAY MOVIE SEASON

IS UPON US.

LOTS OF DIFFERENT FILMS ARE

COMING YOUR WAY OVER THE NEXT

FEW MONTHS.

MANY OF THEM OSCAR CONTENDERS.

WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS TAKE

A LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING

FORWARD TO AND WHAT WE THINK

AUDIENCES ARE EAGERLY

ANTICIPATING.

HERE'S A LOOK AT A FEW.

>> THE GREAT HAROLD SHELBY IS

GOING TO BUILD A CAR TO BEAT

FERRARI WITH A FORD.

>> CORRECT.

♪ IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY IN THE

NEIGHBORHOOD, A BEAUTIFUL

DAY FOR A NEIGHBOR.

PLEASE WON'T YOU BE,

MY NEIGHBOR? ♪

>> THAT WAS WONDERFUL.

>> I THOUGHT WE SHOULD TALK.

>> OKAY.

>> I DO'NT KNOW HOW TO START.

>> YOU KNOW WHY RON JUST GOT

THAT DOOR BLOCK IN HIS OFFICE.

>> SOMEONE HAS SPEAK UP.

SOMEONE HAS TO GET MAD.

♪ MEMORY -- TURN YOUR FACE

TO THE MOONLIGHT -- ♪

>> BILL, IT HIT ME WITH A

MOVIE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TO

AND THAT'S COMING TO THEATERS

SOON.

>> I CAN'T WAIT FOR FORD

VERSUS FERRARI. I'M A GEAR HEAD

EVEN THOUGH I AM TOLD IT IS TOO

LONG.

I HAVE TO SEE MATT DAMON AND

CHRISTIAN BALE TAKE ON

ENZO FERRARI. ALTHOUGH I

HEAR THE GUY WHO STEALS THE

TROPHY AT THE END OF THE

MOVIE IS TRACY LETTS ARE

HENRY FORD II.

>> SAW IT AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

TRACY LETTS STEALS THE MOVIE.

GO AHEAD LISA.

>> FROZEN TWO. [LAUGHTER]

I DID NOT THINK I WAS

GOING TO LIKE THE FIRST MUSICAL

BUT I LOVED IT.

IT IS THE SAME CREATIVE TEAM.

REPORTEDLY THEY DO DEEPER

EXPLORATION OF NORSE MYTHOLOGY

AND FEMALE AUTONOMY SO

HELLO, COUNT ME IN.

>> YAWN.

>> OH YOU SEXIST. BIG SURPRISE.

>> I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A

BEAUTIFUL DAY IN THE

NEIGHBORHOOD.

TOM HANKS COULD PLAY ANYBODY

NOW HE'S PLAYING MR. ROGERS.

>> ONCE AGAIN, YOU'RE GOING

OUT ON A LIMB HERE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> OH THE TOM HANKS MOVIE ABOUT

MR. ROGERS. WOW.

>> UNLIKE THE DOCUMENTARY

WON'T YOU BE MY NEIGHBOR THAT

CAME OUT LAST YEAR WHICH WAS

AN ENTIRE BIOPIC OF HIS LIFE,

THIS LOOKS AT ONE INCIDENT AND

MATTHEW RHYS PLAYS A

JOURNALIST FROM ESQUIRE

WHO IS CYNICAL ABOUT

HAVING TO INTERVIEW MR. ROGERS.

AND THE KINDNESS OF MR. ROGERS

OVERCOMES HIS CYNICISM.

>> I FEEL BORED JUST HEARING

ABOUT IT.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THIS IS CALLED THE REPORT.

ADAM DRIVER IS A SPECIAL

INVESTIGATOR LOOKING INTO THE

CIA COVER-UP OF THE DETAINEE

TORTURE.

ANNETTE BENNING'S THE SECRET

WEAPON OF THIS THING.

SHE IS DIANNE FEINSTEIN, IT IS

A GREAT PERFORMANCE.

>> LITTLE WOMEN.

>> HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE GOING

TO SEE THAT?

>> NO, NO, NO.

>> AGAIN, I'M JUST GOING TO USE

THE WORD SEXISM. I'M JUST

GOING TO LEAVE IT THERE.

>> FIVE VERSIONS OF THIS THING.

>> IT IS MY FAVORITE BOOK.

EVERY VERSION IS GREAT.

THIS ONE IS DIRECTED GRETA

GERWIG, WHO'S FABULOUS.

IT STARS YOUR GIRLFRIEND

SAOIRSE RONAN.

YOU LOVE HER.

YOU KNOW HOW TO PRONOUNCE HER

CRAZY NAME.

IT HAS GOT MERYL STREEP.

WHAT OTHER STORY GIVES US FOUR

WOMEN FRONT AND CENTER FROM A

19TH-CENTURY NARRATIVE?

IT SHOULD BE TOLD A BUNCH OF

TIMES.

>> THIS TRAILER LOOKS

AMAZING.

>> BEEN THERE DONE THAT.

>> "STAR WARS: THE RISE OF

SKYWALKER."

THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE ENDING

OF ALL NINE FILMS.

>> THANK GOD.

>> THE LUKE SKYWALKER

HARRISON FORD DAYS ARE OVER.

THE TRANSITION INTO THE NEW

GENERATION OF STAR WARS

CHARACTERS INCLUDING THE NETFLIX

TV SHOW AND EVERYTHING,

THAT IS WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE.

IF YOU WERE BORN IN THE 70'S AND

80'S, THIS IS THE MOVIE YOU HAVE

TO SEE.

>> BETTER THAN THE LAST

COUPLE.

>> THEY HAVE BEEN SNOOZES.

>> THE FORCE WILL BE WITH YOU.

>> ALWAYS.

>> HERE'S A MOVIE THAT, NOT

ONLY AM I LOOKING FORWARD TO,

I HAVE SEEN THIS MOVIE AND

IT IS WONDERFUL.

IT'S CALLED MARRIAGE STORY.

IT'S DIRECTED BY NOAH BAUMBACH.

IT REALLY SHOULD BE CALLED

DIVORCE STORY BECAUSE IT IS

ABOUT THE CRUMBLING OF A

MARRIAGE AND HOW LAWYERS GET

INVOLVED AND MAKE A BAD

SITUATION WORSE.

ADAM DRIVER WHO I GUARANTEE IS

GOING TO GET A OSCAR NOMINATION.

AS WELL AS SCARLETT JOHANSSON

ARE THE COUPLE THAT ARE

HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS.

IT IS ABOUT HOW THEIR LIFE FALLS

APART AND HOW THEY ARE

STRUGGLING TO KEEP THEIR FAMILY

TOGETHER AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP

WITH THEIR CHILD.

THIS IS WONDERFUL.

I RECOMMENDED IT.

>> SAW IT AT THE HAMPTONS

FILM FESTIVAL AND IT IS ONE OF

THE BEST MOVIES OF THE YEAR.

BOMBSHELL. AND CERTAINLY

A GREAT MOVIE ABOUT THE TOPIC.

>> GREAT WRITING, GREAT

DIRECTION, AMAZING ACTING.

BILL, GIVE ME A MOVIE.

>> BOMBSHELL.

FOX NEWS IS GETTING ITS CLOSE

UP AGAIN.

WHY IS HOLLYWOOD LIKE NOAH'S

ARK?

EVERYTHING COMES OUT IN TWO'S?

WE HAD THE SHOWTIME VERSION

WITH RUSSELL CROWE.

WHICH WAS GREAT.

>> I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS.

>> THIS HAS MORE POWERFUL

WOMEN, I MUST SAY.

NICOLE KIDMAN, CHARLIZE THERON,

MARGOT ROBBIE.

THEY EVENTUALLY BRING DOWN A

DIFFERENT ROGER AILES, BUT

ALTOGETHER IT IS WORTH TELLING.

>> CHARLIZE LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE

MEGYN KELLY.

>> AND IT IS SUPPOSED TO

BE FUNNY.

>> SOME OF THE REAL FOX NEWS

PEOPLE ARE IN IT, WHICH I DON'T

EVEN KNOW HOW THEY GOT

PERMISSION TO DO THAT.

>> I AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS

MOVIE.

>> I AM EXCITED FOR EVEN

THOUGH I THOUGHT THE LOUDEST

VOICE ON SHOWTIME DID COVER

THE SUBJECT WELL.

>> DARK WATERS.

THIS IS A PSYCHOLOGICAL

ENVIRONMENTAL LEGAL THRILLER

STARRING MY BOYFRIEND, MARK

RUFFALO.

IT IS DIRECTED BY TODD HAYNES

WHO HAS DIRECTED GORGEOUSLY

RENDERED AND HEARTFELT

FILMS LIKE FAR FROM HEAVEN

AND CARROLL.

I AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS FILM.

I DO NOT MIND THAT IT STARS ANNE

HATHAWAY.

[LAUGHTER]

>> I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE

TWO POPES.

IT HAS BEEN WINNING AWARDS IN

ALL THE FILM FESTIVALS.

STANDING OVATIONS.

IT'S DIRECTED BY TOM HOOPER.

ANTHONY HOPKINS. JONATHAN PRICE.

IT IS A FICTIONAL HISTORY OF TWO

POPES WHO GET TOGETHER.

IT IS SLIGHTLY BASED ON REALITY,

WHERE POPE FRANCIS RESIGNS IN

2013.

WHAT ULTIMATELY HAPPENS IS THIS

COMEDIC DRAMA ABOUT THE

CHEMISTRY OF THESE TWO PEOPLE IN

THIS RELIGIOUS BACKGROUND THAT

DO NOT SEE VERY MUCH ON FILM.

>> YOU MENTIONED THE HAMPTON

FILM FESTIVAL, IT WON THE

AUDIENCE AWARD.

>> I SAW IT THERE.

IT IS A GREAT MOVIE.

TWO OLD GUYS SITTING AROUND FOR

TWO HOURS IS A GOOD MOVIE.

>> THAT'S LIKE EVERY MOVIE

I HAVE TO WATCH. [LAUGHTER]

>> OR HALF OF THIS SHOW.

>> ALL OF THIS SHOW.

>> I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M GOING

TO SAY THAT ADAM SANDLER MIGHT

BE NOMINATED FOR AN OSCAR.

BUT I'VE SEEN UNCUT GEMS

HE'S A DEGENERATE GAMBLER

ON 47TH STREET HERE IN NEW YORK.

IT IS EXCELLENT.

I RECOMMEND IT HIGHLY.

>> YOU'RE TAKING MY MONEY ALL

OVER TOWN PLACING BETS.

WHERE'S THE MONEY RIGHT NOW?

>> HOWARD! GOT MY MONEY?

>> THE TITLE IS SALACIOUS.

>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ADAM

SANDLER.

>> HE IS BETTER IN DRAMATIC

ROLES.

>> PUNCHDRUNK LOVE.

>> YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO ROLL

YOUR EYES, BUT THE MOVIE I'M

EXCITED ABOUT IS CATS.

THE LONG-AWAITED, MOST

RIDICULOUS ADAPTATION OF THE

BROADWAY MUSICAL THAT IS AN

ADAPTATION OF A POEM.

STARRING JUDI DENCH, IAN

MCKELLEN, JENNIFER HUDSON,

TAYLOR SWIFT, HELLO?

IN CAT SUITS? THAT'S FUNNY.

EVEN IF IT IS BAD, IT IS GOING

TO BE GOOD.

>> I'M COUGHING UP A FUR BALL

JUST THINKING ABOUT IT.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU

WHAT YOU ARE LEAST LOOKING

FORWARD TO.

THAT IS WHAT I AM LEAST LOOKING

FORWARD TO THIS HOLIDAY

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