Songwriters Under the Covers with Victoria Shaw

S1 E6 | FULL EPISODE

Sara Evans & Kevin Cronin with Guest Simon Kirk

A new, intimate music performance and storytelling series that puts the spotlight on the songwriters of some of music’s biggest hits across pop, rock and country. Songwriters featured in this episode include Sara Evans and Kevin Cronin, with special guest Simon Kirk.

AIRED: November 20, 2019 | 0:57:26
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♪♪

♪♪

[ Cheers and applause ]

Wow! [ Laughs ]

Wow!

Wow!

[ Cheers and applause continue ]

Whoo! [ Laughs ]

My goodness!

Thank you!

Thank you, thank you!

Oh, my goodness.

I've just forgotten my song. Okay.

This song I wrote with a bass part that goes like this.

[ Plays tune ]

But I can't sing and play it at the same time.

♪♪

♪♪

♪ I call back when I swore that I wouldn't ♪

♪ Drive by his house when I know that I shouldn't ♪

♪ Ohhhh

♪ 'Cause it always makes my heart break ♪

♪ Yeah, I could write a book

♪ "The 10 Mistakes a Girl Makes" ♪

♪ I hound my friends for any information ♪

♪ I overanalyze every conversation ♪

♪ Ohhhh

♪ And it opens up the floodgates ♪

♪ Yeah, I could write a book

♪ "The 10 Mistakes a Girl Makes" ♪

♪ We trust too much

♪ And we fall too hard

♪ But it's the only way we know how to love so far ♪

♪ I sleep in his shirt when I really should've burned it ♪

♪ Gave him my love when he didn't deserve it ♪

♪ Ohhhh

♪ And that's what really takes the cake ♪

♪ Yeah, I could write a book

♪ "The 10 Mistakes a Girl Makes" ♪

♪♪

♪♪

♪♪

♪ We trust too much

♪ And we fall too hard

♪ But it's the only way we know how to love so far ♪

♪ I dress up when I think I'll run into him ♪

♪ I kid myself that he cares how I'm doing ♪

♪ Ohhhh

♪ I'm the give, and he's the take ♪

♪ Yeah

♪ Oh, I could write a book

♪ They'll be lining up to read it ♪

♪ Just a little book, but every girl needs it ♪

♪ Yeah, I could write a book

♪ "The 10 Mistakes a Girl Makes" ♪

♪ A girl makes

♪♪

♪ Tommy used to work on the docks ♪

No, wrong song. Sorry.

♪♪

[ Cheers and applause ]

Thank you!

You are so nice! [ Laughs ]

Thank you so much. Thank you very much.

Welcome to "Songwriters Under the Covers"

with me, Victoria Shaw.

I am your cruise director tonight, I guess.

So how this works is that

I just invite my very talented hit-songwriter friends

to come out and play with me.

And we take turns going around and around,

and we'll play songs you know for sure,

maybe new songs we're testing out.

It's anything goes tonight, and, you know,

we just come in when we know the harmonies.

We lay back when we don't.

It's very, very chill, as we say,

and that's what I like about this,

so tonight is no exception.

And I'm very excited to introduce my first guest.

She is not only a great songwriter

but has one of the purest, most in-your-heart,

make-you-just-melt voices there is.

She has had 14 top 20s,

and 5 of them were number 1s.

She's sold millions of albums.

She's also proved that she can really dance

on "Dancing With the Stars," and she does all of this

while being a mother to seven children.

So if I didn't like her so much, I would hate her.

Please welcome Ms. Sara Evans.

Thank you.

[ Cheers and applause ]

Thank you so much.

I'm so glad you're here.

Thanks for having me, Victoria.

I'm so glad you're here.

We're in for a wild ride, I'm telling you.

And I want to introduce my other guest here who,

if you don't know his music,

you basically aren't on this planet

because you've heard his music on the radio,

in movie soundtracks,

and basically on every other commercial on TV,

which I am so jealous of.

His band, REO Speedwagon, is really, truly

one of the most successful American rock bands ever.

Their iconic album "High Fidelity" alone --

just that album -- sold over 10 million copies,

and that's due to the incredible vocal talents

and the writing talents of my dear friend, Mr. Kevin Cronin.

[ Cheers and applause ]

Thank you, Victoria. Thanks, you guys.

It's true. It's true.

So how this works is we just

kind of go around and play songs,

and we're gonna go and sing harmony and jump in when we can.

And I'm gonna let you kick this off, Sara.

Okay.

Do you want me to introduce my song or just...

I do. I want you to tell the story and everything.

Okay. Well, I grew up on a farm in Missouri,

and I started singing when I was 4 years old with my --

I have six siblings, so I'm from a family of seven kids.

I have seven kids now. What the heck?

Coincidence? I think not.

I only gave birth to three of them, but...

So I wrote this song about just growing up on a farm

and dreaming about moving to Nashville,

which is what I did, you know, my whole entire childhood,

and I'd be standing out in the fields

and get in trouble for daydreaming too much.

And...yeah.

And this is Ben Thompson, my guitar player.

He's amazing.

[ Cheers and applause ]

So let's do it.

All right.

♪♪

♪ I been telling my dreams to the scarecrow ♪

♪ About the places that I'd like to see ♪

♪ And I say, "Friend, do you think I'll ever get there?" ♪

♪ Oh, but he just stands there smiling back at me ♪

♪ So I confess my sins to the preacher ♪

♪ About the love I'd been praying to find ♪

♪ Is there a blue-eyed boy in my future, yeah ♪

♪ And he says, "Girl, you've got nothing but time" ♪

♪ But I say, how do you wait for heaven? ♪

♪ And who has that much time?

♪ And how do you keep your feet on the ground ♪

♪ When you know

♪ That you were bo-ooo-orn

♪ You were born to fly?

♪♪

♪ Well, my daddy, he is grounded like the oak tree ♪

♪ My mama, she is steady as the sun ♪

♪ Oh, you know I love my folks

♪ But I keep staring down the road ♪

♪ Just looking for my one chance to run ♪

♪ Hey, 'cause I will soar away like the blackbird ♪

♪ And I will blow in the wind like a seed ♪

♪ And I will plant my heart in the garden of my dreams ♪

♪ And I will grow up where I want wild and free ♪

♪ Oh, yeah How do you wait for heaven? ♪

♪ And who has that much time?

♪ And how do you keep your feet on the ground ♪

♪ When you know

♪ That you were bo-ooo-orn

♪ You were born, yeah

♪ You were born to fly?

♪♪

♪♪

♪ So how do you wait for heaven? ♪

♪ And who has that much time?

♪ And how do you keep your feet on the groooound ♪

♪ When you knooooow

♪ That you were bo-ooo-orn

♪ You were born to fly?

♪ Oh, yeah

♪ You were born to fly, fly, fly, fly ♪

♪ Hey, yeah

♪ Ohhhhh

♪ Ooh-hoo-ooo-ooo

♪♪

[ Cheers and applause ]

Thank you so much.

[ Cheers and applause continue ]

-Oh, Sara, I love you. -I love you.

No, I mean Ilove you.

I love you, too.

Victoria, on second thought, I'm -- I'm done.

Oh, whatever.

-I'm not following that. -Yeah, right.

Kevin, we're destined to be together.

You know that. We are.

Sara and I, we...

We did a "CMT Crossroads" together.

Which I didn't even know. I just invited them

'cause I thought it'd be a cool matching.

It turns out they're, like, best buds.

Yeah. So...

We had such a great time doing that.

We did. We really, really did.

Such an honor. All of our bands onstage together.

Mm-hmm.

It gives us a little leg up 'cause we kind of, sort of

know each other's songs a little bit, you know?

So that's kind of cool.

We do. Well, I knew yours anyway -- duh.

Well, you grew up in Missouri.

-Right, yeah. -You had no choice.

I told you I used to drive around the country roads

drinking beer --

I mean,riding on the country roads

and listening to REO Speedwagon.

Is that bad?

No, I think that's good.

We like when pretty girls listen to our music

driving down the road... While drinking beer.

-...drinking, you know? -Mm-hmm.

So, all right.

I think enough time has gone by that maybe I can now sing.

[ Laughter ]

You've had a chance to forget about Sara

just for a few moments here.

So, yeah.

So this song that I'm gonna play for you now...

You know, it's funny because when you write a song,

you have no idea where it's gonna end up.

You just make up a little song, and you bear your soul.

And if I would've known

that this song would've had the life

that it ended up having,

I may have changed a couple of the lyrics in the verse

'cause my ex-wife --

well, she was my wife at the time,

but this song kind of... That was it.

You'll see what I'm talking about.

But, so, yeah.

So REO Speedwagon is a rock 'n' roll band,

and so I came into rehearsal one day,

sat down at the piano, and started playing this next song,

and the guys in the band kind of looked at me like I was crazy.

And I just kept playing it and playing it and playing it,

and eventually our guitar player at the time,

the late great Gary Richrath, stood up,

plugged in a Les Paul electric guitar

into this giant stack of Marshall amplifiers,

cranked up this, like, dirty, raunchy sound,

and I'm playing this, like, sweet kind of song,

and I think that his intention was to drown me out

so I would stop playing this song,

and I jumped up from the piano, and I'm like, "Dude, that's it.

That's exactly what this song needs."

So you just never know how a song is gonna evolve,

but, anyway...

I'll sing it for you now, with luck.

Ready? Do I start this with you?

-Yeah. -Do I?

Two, three, four.

♪♪

♪♪

♪ You should've seen by the look in my eyes, baby ♪

♪ There was something missing

♪ You should've known by the tone of my voice maybe ♪

♪ But you didn't listen

♪ You played dead

♪ You never bled

♪ Instead you laid still in the grass ♪

♪ All coiled up and hissing

♪♪

♪ Though I know all about those men ♪

♪ Still I don't remember

♪ 'Cause it was us, baby, way before them ♪

♪ Oh, and we're still together

♪ And I meant

♪ Every word I said

♪ When I said that I love you

♪ I meant that I love you forever ♪

♪ And I'm gonna keep on loving you ♪

♪ 'Cause it's the only thing I want to do ♪

♪ I don't want to sleep

♪ I just want to keep on loving you ♪

All right, Ben.

♪♪

♪♪

♪♪

♪ And I meant

♪ Every word I said

♪ When I said that I love you

♪ I meant that I love you forever ♪

♪ And I'm gonna keep on loving you ♪

♪ 'Cause it's the only thing I want to do ♪

♪ I don't want to sleep

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ I just want to keep on loving you ♪

♪ Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh

♪♪

[ Cheers and applause ]

Well, thank you.

♪ Don't want to sleep

Thank you. Thank you.

I have one question for Kevin really quick.

Yes?

Why do you like to play mind games with people?

[ Laughter ]

Because everybody always thinks that chorus is coming.

Yeah, it's totally true. I was ready for it.

♪ And I meant every

Then you think ♪ And I'm go--

Nope. It's another verse.

-Yep. It's true. -Oh.

Does everybody think that?

You know, I like to make people wait.

I don't want to give it up too soon, you know.

I almost got fooled just now again.

Do you know how much money I made in my tip jar

singing that song every night when I used to work in the bars?

I sang that song. I would be --

like, the money just poured right in.

I loved it.

I love that.

Anything I can do to help you, Victoria.

Thank you.

Well, your turn, Sara. Oh, my turn again.

-Yeah. -Okay.

I wrote this song for my latest album.

It's called "Words," and... Audience member: Whoo!

...I was just thinking one day --

thank you --

how cool it would be if people came with warning signs.

-Oh, yeah. -Wouldn't that be so awesome?

So awesome.

-That is a great idea. -Yeah.

Like, you got out on a first date,

and you're sitting there, and something just, like,

pops up on their forehead, like, "I will never work." Oh, my gosh.

[ Laughing ] You got something there.

-"I will cheat on you." -Yes.

Oh, yeah.

Then it can save the girls from making

those 10 mistakes that you wrote about.

-Totally. -Yeah.

So that's what this song is about.

It's very bitter and angry.

I like it already. [ Laughs ]

It's called "Marquee Sign."

♪♪

♪♪

♪ I wish you were a pack of cigarettes ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ 'Cause you would've come with a warning ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Before I let you steal my breath ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ I would've known how bad you were for me ♪

♪ Some people lie

♪ Some people trust

♪ Some people hide

♪ What they're made of

♪ If you would've been lit up like a marquee sign ♪

♪ Could've saved myself some wasted time ♪

♪ From the minute I found you

♪ If it it'd been written out in black and white ♪

♪ Maybe then I would've told my mind ♪

♪ Not to get wrapped around you ♪

♪ I should have known it from the start ♪

♪ You were only here to break my heart ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ If you had just been tequila

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ I would've known when to stop ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Would've been so easy to leave you ♪

♪ I never even would've taken a shot ♪

♪ Oh, people lie

♪ And people trust

♪ And people hide

♪ What they're made of

♪ If you would've been lit up like a marquee sign ♪

♪ Could've saved myself some wasted time ♪

♪ From the minute I found you

♪ If it'd been written out in black and white ♪

♪ Maybe then I would've told my mind ♪

♪ Not to get wrapped around you ♪

♪ I should have known it from the start ♪

♪ You were only here to break my heart ♪

♪ Yeah

♪♪

♪♪

♪ If I could've seen right through you ♪

♪ Known you before I knew you

♪ If you would've been lit up like a marquee sign ♪

♪ Could've saved myself some wasted time ♪

♪ From the minute I found you

♪ If it'd been written out in black and white ♪

♪ Maybe then I would've told my mind ♪

♪ Not to get wrapped around you ♪

♪ Oh, I should have known it from the start ♪

♪ You were only here to break my heart ♪

♪ Yeah, you were only here to break my heart ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Ohhhh, ohhhh

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Ohhhh, ohhhh

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Ooh-ooh-ooh, yeah

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Hey, yeaaaaa-aa-aah

[ Cheers and applause ]

♪ Don't want to sleep

Some people lie. Some people trust, okay?

-That's true. -These are the lyrics.

Oh, that's good lyrics. That's good lyrics.

I just love when I hear a new song,

and both of you ladies sang new songs,

and they both sound like

I've already heard them on the radio.

-Thank you. -You know I'm saying?

-Yeah. -Right?

-There you go. -Am I right?

-That's a huge compliment. -I love that.

-Whoo! -It's a good sign.

So sometimes I have friends out in the audience

who are also hit songwriters,

and tonight is no exception to that.

You know, there's very rare drummers

who get to be in one iconic band,

but to be in two --

I don't know if it's ever been done, personally.

And my friend coming up has been the drummer

of two amazing bands.

He was in the band --

part of the band Free, you know.

♪ All right now, baby

I mean, huge.

And then he went and joined this band,

started this band called Bad Company so...

[ Cheers and applause ]

Yeah. And, I mean, he's the one like...

♪ Feel like making Ta-ta-ta-ta! Ta-ta!

You know, like, just iconic drumming,

iconic songs. [ Laughs ]

That's my drumming. Sorry. Sorry.

And so though he's most associated with

playing the drums, he's really a multi-instrumentalist.

He's a great songwriter.

I've written with him, and that was a lot of fun,

and I'm just so pleased that he came tonight,

and I asked him to come up and sing.

I'd like you to welcome my friend Mr. Simon Kirke.

[ Cheers and applause ]

♪ Don't want to sleep

Hi.

Wow.

If anyone had told me that this English drummer

would be playing piano at Birdland,

I would've said, "What?"

Anyway, I'm very grateful to Victoria

for having me on the bill, even if it's just for one song.

But this song --

yeah, it's kind of iconic,

and it really only took about 10 minutes to write.

I wrote it with Paul Rodgers,

who's one of the greatest singers ever.

[ Applause ]

And it's...

The actual album that it was on, I believe, is past 13 million,

and it's won all sorts of awards,

but the biggest thing it means to me

is that it was on "The Simpsons"...

[ Laughter ]

...when Ned Flanders goes off his rocker

and becomes a real naughty chap,

and they called us up and said, "Could we use it?"

We said, "Are you kidding? Of course you can."

But anyway, and Paul wrote this.

He called me up. I went over to his cottage,

and he had this huge Yamaha grand

about twice the size, and it was so big

that the front half was in the living room,

and the back half was in the kitchen.

It was that big.

But he had this riff, and...

[ Plays riff ]

...and it was so simple.

Immediately you know it, right?

Immediately you know it.

So we sort of, you know, noodled around,

and he would come up with a line,

and I'd come up with another line,

and it became this great song to play so...

♪♪

♪ Company

♪ Always on the run

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Destiny

♪ Is the rising suu-uu-un

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ I was born

♪ A six-gun in my hand

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Behind a gun

♪ I'll make my final sta-aa-and ♪

♪♪

♪ Bad company

♪ I can't deny

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Bad company

♪ Till the day I diiiiie

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Rebel souls

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Deserters we are called

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ We chose a gun

♪ And threw away the suuuuun Ohhhh ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Now these towns

♪ They all know our name

♪ Six-gun sound

♪ Is our claim to faaaaame

♪ Ohhhh

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Bad company

♪ I can't deny

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Bad company

♪ Till the day I die

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Till the day I die

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Till the day I diiiiiie

♪♪

♪♪

♪♪

[ Cheers and applause ]

♪♪

[ Cheers and applause continue ]

♪ Don't want to sleep

Okay. I love you.

Thank you.

♪ Don't want to sleep

Thank you. [ Laughs ]

He was amazing. Whoo!

That was amazing.

All right. I believe it's my turn now.

A little backstory on this song --

this song started out as a little Irish blessing

that I saw in Ireland.

It was, like, four lines,

and I carried it around for years, thinking,

"It has to grow up to be a song."

And finally I got in the right room

with my friends Sarah Buxton and Gary Burr and...

[ Cheers and applause ]

...and we wrote this song

because Irish blessings are great.

I mean, they really are handy 'cause, I mean,

you can use them at a wake.

You can use them in a pub,

and if you die in a pub, you're totally covered.

It's really, really easy.

And, also, this song has been recorded

and recorded by so many people.

It just kind of keeps finding its different homes,

but what's interesting is the very first recording of it

was by Sara Evans and Jim Brickman -- yes --

which was really cool, so she's the very first person

to record this song and believe in it.

And then it went on to have -- let's see.

Lady Antebellum recorded it.

I recorded it, The Rankin Family in Canada.

It was recorded in Belgium.

It was recorded in Norway by this woman named Sissel,

who I didn't know at the time is really, really famous.

I think she's on the "Titanic" soundtrack.

♪ Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah

That's Sissel. I think that's her.

And they translated it into Norwegian,

and it was a big hit.

It was called, like, "flufeen, fleefen, fluffen."

I don't know even know, but it was a really big hit there.

[ Laughter ]

And so this song has been used a lot.

People use it for different reasons.

A lot of people use it for their loved ones

who are deployed overseas.

When I sing it, I think about my kids

and when they leave the nest.

I've just had one leave the nest,

and I have another about to graduate high school soon,

so that's what I think about,

but I'm gonna do that for you right now.

♪♪

♪♪

♪ May the angels protect you

♪ Trouble neglect you

♪ And heaven accept you

♪ When it's time to go home

♪ May you always have plenty

♪ Your glass never empty

♪ And know in your belly

♪ You're never alone

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ May your tears come from laughing ♪

♪ You find friends worth having ♪

♪ With every year passing

♪ They're worth more than gold

♪ May you win but stay humble

♪ Smile more than grumble

♪ And know when you stumble

♪ You're never alone

♪ Never alooooone

♪ Never aloooo-oo-one

♪ I'll be in every beat of your heart ♪

♪ When you face the unknown

♪ Wherever you fly

♪ This isn't goodbye

♪ My love will follow you

♪ Stay with you

♪ Baby, you're never alone

There's no rehearsal here. That was so cool. I know.

I can't believe I remembered that.

[ Applause ]

♪ Well, I have to be honest

♪ As much as I want it

♪ I'm not gonna promise the cold winds won't blow ♪

♪ So when hard times have found you ♪

♪ And your fear surrounds you

♪ Wrap my love around you

♪ And you're never alone

♪ Never aloooone

♪ Never aloooo-oo-one

♪ I'll be in every beat of your heart ♪

♪ When you face the unknown

♪ Wherever you fly

♪ This isn't goodbye

♪ My love will follow you

♪ Stay with you

♪ Baby, you're never alone

♪♪

♪♪

♪ May the angels protect you ♪

♪ Trouble neglect you

♪ And heaven accept you

♪ When it's time to go home

♪ May you always have plenty

♪ Your glass never empty

♪ And know in your belly

♪ You're never alone

♪ Never alooooone

♪ Never aloooo-oo-one

♪ I'll be in every beat of your heart ♪

♪ When you face the unknown

♪ Wherever you fly

♪ This isn't goodbye

♪ My love will follow you

♪ Stay with you

♪ Baby, you're never alone

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ My love will follow you

♪ Stay with you

♪ Baby, you're never

♪ Alooooooone

♪♪

Whoo!

[ Cheers and applause ]

Don't leave me hanging, Victoria.

Thank you very much.

That piano playing was truly amazing.

Oh, my gosh. Thank you.

-That was awesome. -Thank you.

That harmony, the harmony -- that was just impromptu.

That's what happens here!

We did not rehearse that.

No rehearsal!

That song is so Irish, too.

I mean, the words -- I mean, it feels like...

It is. And my hair is very Irish.

It's about the only Irish thing about me, but...

If I had known that was an Irish song...

-Yeah. -...I would've sang it...

With a little Irish brogue?

[ Irish accent ] ♪ Never

[ Normal voice ] How would you do that?

I can't do an Irish accent.

It's all right. Neither could I.

There's, like, an "R" roll somewhere.

I can't roll my "R"s. I can't. [ Rolls "R" ]

Well, thank you for that. That was really awesome.

-That was beautiful. -Mm!

That's great.

[ Applause ]

It is your turn again, Kevin.

You know, it occurred to me, you know,

listening to you -- both of you girls' new songs --

that normally when you're in front of an audience

and you're playing a new song,

or at least this is my experience,

if I'm in the middle of an REO Speedwagon concert,

I've learned to never say,

"All right, ladies and gentlemen.

We're gonna play a new one now,"

because as soon as you do, the room empties.

It's like, "God, I've had to pee for 15 minutes. This is it."

[ Laughter ]

But when you're in a room where people come

because they're fans of songwriting,

suddenly every song is judged on its merit.

They listen. They listen.

-Right? -Mm-hmm. I love that.

So with that in mind, I'm gonna play a number-one hit

that we had in 1981. [ Laughter ]

I ain't taking any chances.

♪♪

So my friend Gary Richrath wrote this next song --

the late, great Gary Richrath.

We were kind of woodshedding songs

for our "High Infidelity" record back in 1980,

and so our kind of habit was the last thing we would do

before we went into the studio

is I would go out to Gary's house,

and he would have piles of lyric notebooks and demo tapes,

you know, strewn all over his studio.

And it was kind of my job to come in

and kind of sift through it

and see if there was anything that he had missed, right?

So I've spent the whole day out there

and kind of wasn't really getting anywhere,

and I was like, "Well, you know, maybe I'll split now."

And I'm on my way out the door, and he's like,

"You know what? There's this one song I got.

It's kind of a slow one. I don't know if it's any good."

You know, I was usually in charge of writing

the slow songs.

And I'm like, "What's it called?"

He goes, "Well, it's called 'Don't Bring Me Down.'"

And I'm thinking, "Oh, great. The Beatles might have had

a song called 'Don't Bring Me Down.'

Maybe you've heard of them."

But I thought, "Well, let's give it a shot, right?"

So I went back,

and he put on this demo tape, and I hear...

♪ Heard it from a friend who ♪

♪ Heard it from a friend who ♪

♪ Heard it from another you been messing around ♪

And I don't know about you guys,

but, to me, the opening line of a song...

-Totally. -...it's, like, that's it.

It's like, you know,

"I've once had a girl or she once had me"...

Yep. I heard that line, and I'm like,

"Gary, that's the best fricking line ever, you know?

This is the best opening line on any REO Speedwagon album.

I love this song."

I was sold right there, so lucky I stuck around

because we ended up finishing the song,

and it ended up being a big single on our record.

And now I get to sing it with Victoria and with Sara,

and I get to have Ben play guitar.

♪ Heard it from a friend who ♪

♪ Heard it from a friend who ♪

♪ Heard it from another you been messing around ♪

♪ Yeah

♪ See you got a boyfriend

♪ You're out late every weekend ♪

♪ They're talking about you and it's bringing me down ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ But I know the neighborhood

♪ And talk was cheap when the story is good ♪

♪ The tales grow taller on down the line ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ But I'm telling you, babe

♪ That I don't think it's true, babe ♪

♪ And even if it is, keep this in mind ♪

Everybody!

♪ You take it on the run, baby

♪ If that's the way you want it, baby ♪

♪ Then I don't want you around

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ I don't believe it

♪ Not for a minute

♪ You're under the gun so you take it on the run ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Thinking up your white lies

♪ You're putting on your bedroom eyes ♪

♪ Say you're coming home

♪ You won't say when

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ But I can feel it coming

♪ If you leave tonight, just keep on running ♪

♪ You need never look back again ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ You take it on the run, baby

♪ If that's the way you want it, baby ♪

♪ Then I don't want you around

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ I don't believe it

♪ Not for a minute

♪ You're under the gun

♪ You take it on the ru-uun

All right, Ben!

♪♪

♪♪

♪♪

♪ Oh-oh

♪ You take it on the run, baby

♪ If that's the way you want it, baby ♪

♪ Then I don't want you around

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ I don't believe it

♪ Not for a minute

♪ You're under the gun so you take it on the run ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Heard it from a friend who ♪

♪ Heard it from a friend who ♪

♪ Heard it from a friend that you messing around ♪

[ Cheers and applause ]

♪ Don't want to sleep

You've been messing around out here at the Birdland,

haven't you?

[ Applause ]

That was so much fun, singing with you ladies.

Oh, my God. What was a pleasure.

We got to do this more often.

Absolutely. What are you doing tomorrow?

[ Laughter ]

I don't think the Birdland Theater has ever had

REO Speedwagon songs, you know, blasting through the door.

It's awesome.

I love it.

I love it, although you could jazz it up.

You know, ♪ Heard it from a friend

♪ Do-doodly-doodly-do

Sorry.

I just think it's so much fun

when you get to play your songs

with a whole different, you know, group of people... Vibe.

...and it's just a different vibe, a different feel.

It always -- I love it.

Thank you for having me, Victoria.

Aw, thank you. I am so glad you're here.

I think a great song -- you know, even if you listen

to the pop-dance-dance songs --

the best songs, if you break them down,

can still be played acoustically.

You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

And still just played like that, That's what I love about it.

So, Sara, this is actually your last song for the night.

I know. I can't believe it already.

Did you have fun?

Thank you so much for having me.

This has been...

It's been my pleasure.

...such a joy and a delight.

Yep. Thank you.

Now you can tell the story.

Yeah, I mean, there are some times...

I mean, I'm not that stubborn artist

that refuses to cut other people's songs

because if it's a great song, it's a great song,

and, you know, there's always that other aspect

of being an artist and being a singer,

that you're acting the part of a song

that somebody else wrote, but you're acting for them

by singing it in your own way, you know?

And Hillary Scott with Lady Antebellum

cowrote this song with Luke Laird and Hillary Lindsey.

Am I right -- all those writers? Yep.

And Hillary...

You helped develop or you developed Lady Antebellum,

and so we have this connection with Hillary Scott,

and then I was pitched this song,

and she was not going in the studio at that time,

and it was just something that she didn't feel like recording,

and so they asked me what I thought of it,

and I fell in love with it, and, you know,

it's one of those songs that helps people feel better

after really getting hurt in a relationship, so...

And it was a big, old, fat hit for you... It was.

...which is lovely, which is nice revenge.

That's good. Thanks to y'all.

♪♪

♪♪

♪ Woke up late today

♪ And I still feel the sting of the pain ♪

♪ But I brush my teeth anyway

♪ I got dressed through the mess and put a smile on my face ♪

♪ I got a little bit stronger

♪ Riding in the car to work

♪ And trying to ignore the hurt ♪

♪ So I turned on the radio

♪ Stupid song made me think of you ♪

♪ I listened to it for a minute ♪

♪ But then I changed it

♪ I'm getting a little bit stronger ♪

♪ Just a little bit stronger

♪ And I'm done hoping

♪ That we could work it out

♪ I'm done with how it feels

♪ Spinning my wheels

♪ Letting you drag my heart around ♪

♪ And, oh, I'm done thinking

♪ That you could ever change

♪ I know my heart will never be the same ♪

♪ But I'm telling myself I'll be okay ♪

♪ Even on my weakest days

♪ I get a little bit stronger

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ It doesn't happen overnight

♪ But you turn around, and a month's gone by ♪

♪ And you realize you haven't cried ♪

♪ I'm not giving you an hour or a second ♪

♪ Or another minute longer

♪ I'm busy getting stronger Yeah ♪

♪ And I'm done hoping

♪ That we could work it out

♪ I'm done with how it feels

♪ Spinning my wheels

♪ And letting you drag my heart around ♪

♪ And, oh, I'm done thinking

♪ That you could ever change

♪ I know my heart will never be the same ♪

♪ But I'm telling myself I'll be okay ♪

♪ Even on my weakest days

♪ I get a little bit stroo-oo-onger ♪

♪ I get a little bit stronger Yeah ♪

♪♪

♪♪

♪ I'm getting along without you, baby ♪

♪ I'm better off without you, baby ♪

♪ How does it feel without me, baby? ♪

♪ I'm going stronger without yoooooou, baby ♪

♪ And I'm done hoping

♪ That we could work it out

♪ I'm done with how it feels

♪ Spinning my wheels

♪ And letting you drag my heart around ♪

♪ And, oh, I'm done thinking

♪ That you could ever change

♪ I know my heart will never be the same ♪

♪ But I'm telling myself I'll be okay ♪

♪ Even on my weakest days

♪ I get a little bit stroo-oo-onger ♪

♪ I get a little bit stronger

♪ Oh, yeah

♪ I'm just a little bit stronger ♪

♪ A little bit A little bit ♪

♪ A little bit stronger

♪ Get a little bit stronger

♪ Oh, yeah

♪♪

♪♪

[ Cheers and applause ]

♪ Don't want to sleep

Ben Thompson, once again.

[ Cheers and applause ]

That was beautiful.

Oh, my gosh.

Well, we're coming down to the last song of the night,

but, I mean, have you had fun?

I've had such a good time with you.

-This was amazing. -Thank you so much.

I could stay up here all night.

[ Applause ]

Ah. So, Kevin, this is our last song.

This isthe last song of the night.

I know. I'm not ready for it to be...

-I know. -...the last song yet.

I've had so much fun. Thank you so much.

After the show's over and people, like,

are watching something else, we can still stay here

and play some more songs for these people, right?

-Absolutely. -Yeah.

But I do want to say something wonderful about Victoria

'cause Victoria and I go back a few -- like, 10 years.

Yeah. And I went down to Nashville

on a little songwriting pilgrimage,

and I was introduced to Victoria

and went down to her studio,

and immediately her warmth just made me feel at home.

And we started talking, and we became --

I mean, you've heard of becoming fast friends.

Victoria and I became, like, fast, lifelong friends. Totally.

But we only knew each other for, like, a few hours, but --

But, you know, in songwriting sessions,

you have to get real and real fast,

and it's literally like -- it's like dating,

but it's basically, "Hi. Let's get naked." Yeah.

-Right? -Right.

Yeah. And she did, strangely...

That's the way I like to write.

...which accounts for why I went back the next day

and thought, "Let's write another one."

[ Laughter ]

Hey, and I just want to say one more time,

Ben, you are amazing. Ben Thompson.

He just jumped in and played, you know?

He's incredible.

I mean, just amazing.

-Yeah. -Okay.

So, Kevin, as we say in show business, take us home.

And I don't know where Simon is, but come and jump on stage

and sing some background. Yeah.

[ Cheers and applause ]

He just magically appeared!

[ Cheers and applause continue ]

Oh, yeah. [ Laughs ]

All right. Here we go. We're going home.

♪♪

♪ As soon as you are able

♪ Woman, I am willing

♪ To make the break that we are on the brink of ♪

♪ My cup is on the table

♪ My love is spilling

♪ Just waiting here for you to take and drink of ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ But if you're tired of the same old story ♪

♪ Oh, baby, turn some pages

♪ Ooh, and I'll be here when you are ready ♪

♪ Gonna roll with the changes

♪ Again

Ben!

♪♪

♪ I knew it had to happen

♪ Felt the tables turning

♪ You got me through my darkest hour ♪

♪ I heard the thunder clapping

♪ And I felt the desert burning ♪

♪ Until you poured on me like a sweet sun-shower ♪

♪ But if you're tired of the same old story ♪

♪ Oh, now, baby, turn some pages ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Ooh, then I'll be here when you are ready ♪

♪ Gonna roll with the changes

♪ Oh, yeah

Ben!

♪♪

One more time!

♪♪

♪ So if you're tired of the same old story ♪

♪ Oh, baby, turn some pages

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ Ooh, and I'll be here when you are ready ♪

♪ To roll with the changes, baby ♪

♪ Roll with the changes

♪ Oh, and now you know, you know, you know you got to ♪

♪ Keep on rolling Keep on rolling ♪

♪ Ohhhhh

♪ Roll with the changes

♪ Oh, yeah, yeah

♪ Keep on rolling Keep on rolling ♪

♪ Ohhhhh Now roll with the changes ♪

♪ Got to keep on rolling

♪ Keep on rolling Keep on rolling ♪

♪ Ohhhhh And now roll with the changes ♪

Everybody!

♪ Keep on Keep on rolling ♪

♪ Keep on rolling

♪ Ohhhhh Roll with the changes ♪

All right, Ben! Here you go, baby!

♪♪

♪♪

♪♪

♪ Everybody got to keep on rolling ♪

♪ Keep on rolling Keep on rolling ♪

♪ Roll now

♪ Roll with the changes

♪ Gonna keep on rolling

♪ Keep on rolling Keep on rolling ♪

♪ Roll Now roll with the changes ♪

♪ Everybody got to keep on

♪ Keep on rolling Keep on rolling ♪

♪ Roll Now roll with the changes ♪

Here we go -- last time!

♪ Keep on rolling Keep on rolling ♪

♪ Oooohhh

♪ Everybody's got to keep on rolling ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ You got to keep on rolling with the changes, yeah ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ You got to keep on rolling with the changes ♪

Whoo!

[ Cheers and applause ]

Thank you, Kevin Cronin!

Thank you, Sara Evans!

Thank you, Simon Kirke! Thank you, Ben!

Thank you, everybody! It's been a ball!

-Thank you, Victoria! -Thank you!

We love you!

[ "Keep On Loving You" plays ]

♪ Every word I said

♪ When I said that I love you

♪ I meant that I love you forever ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ And I'm gonna keep on loving you ♪

♪ 'Cause it's the only thing I want to do ♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

♪ I don't want to sleep

♪ I just want to keep on loving you ♪

All right, Ben.

♪♪

♪♪

♪ Don't want to sleep

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