Songwriters Under the Covers with Victoria Shaw

S1 E7 | FULL EPISODE

Patty Smyth & Lee Brice w/ Constantine Maroulis

A new intimate, music performance and storytelling series that puts the spotlight on the songwriters of some of music’s biggest hits across pop, rock and country. Songwriters featured in the series include Brett James (Carrie Underwood’s “Jesus Take the Wheel”), Desmond Child (Bon Jovi’s “Livin’ on a Prayer”), Angela Hunte (Alicia Keys’ “Empire State of Mind”), Erika Ender (“Despacito”) and more.

AIRED: November 27, 2019 | 0:57:51
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♪♪

[ Cheers and applause ]

Shaw: Wow.

[ Cheers and applause continue ]

Hello.

[ Cheers and applause continue ]

Here we go.

Brice: Yeah.

[ "Seemed Like a Good Idea" playing ]

♪♪

♪ Well, I met him on a Monday

♪ I married him the following Sunday ♪

♪ My friends thought I was crazy ♪

♪ But I told them that this was true love ♪

♪ Cut to a year on down the road ♪

♪ He's gone, and I'm all alone ♪

♪ I guess another girl would've known ♪

♪ Oh, but to me

♪ Seemed like a good idea at the time ♪

♪ I must have been out of my mind ♪

♪ He told me he loved me

♪ Went and spent all my money

♪ Seemed like a good idea at the time ♪

♪ Seemed like a good idea

♪♪

♪ Had some top-shelf tequila

♪ At a little bar just south of Topeka ♪

♪ Started leaning like the Tower of Pisa ♪

♪ Then I challenged that big dude to what ♪

♪ Cut to me laying on the floor ♪

♪ And cops coming through that door ♪

♪ I had to get up, get out before ♪

♪ Before they found me

♪ Seemed like a good idea at the time ♪

♪ I must have been out of my mind ♪

♪ Sped off in my car

♪ Ended up behind bars

♪ Seemed like a good idea at the time ♪

♪ Seemed like a good idea

♪ Wah, wah, wah

♪ I always find a way to get off track ♪

♪ And there's a part of me that has to laugh ♪

♪ When the universe just kicks my... ♪

♪ I tell myself

♪ Well, seemed like a good idea at the time ♪

♪ I mess up, but I keep on trying ♪

♪ A little voice in my head picks the wrong thing instead ♪

♪ Well, seemed like a good idea at the time ♪

♪ Seemed like a good idea, whoa ♪

♪ It seemed like a good idea at the time ♪

♪ Seemed like a good idea

♪ Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah

♪ Now I know that you know what I'm talking about ♪

[ Cheers and applause ]

Smyth: Alright. Thank you!

Whoo! Thank you so much.

Welcome to "Songwriters Under the Covers" with me,

Victoria Shaw.

I am your troupe leader for the night.

And basically, for anybody who hasn't seen

how this show works, it's very simple.

I invite my very talented hit-songwriter friends

to come and sing their songs,

so we sing our songs and tell the backstories behind it,

so we sing, we tell stories.

We laugh. We go home.

It's very simple, but it's not that simple

because I have such incredibly talented friends here tonight.

Starting to my left, you know,

I'm sure you know her from the incredible

rock group Scandal that dominated MTV for so many years.

[ Cheers and applause ]

A little trivia -- Their self-titled debut

was the biggest-selling EP in Columbia Records history.

I mean, that's a big deal, okay, very big deal.

It was the only EP in Columbia history.

Shh. Shh.

And then, of course, she went on to have a fabulous solo career

and dominate the charts once again,

and you know you have iconic songs when,

to this day, your songs are in

"Grand Theft Auto," the video game.

I mean, that's a big deal.

It's in "Guitar Hero."

It's even on "Family Guy."

I aspire to this, okay?

Please give a warm welcome to Miss Patty Smyth.

Thank you, Victoria.

I didn't know I was starting. Okay.

No, you're not.

Okay. Good.

I'm just intro. You're saying hello.

I'm really happy to be here. Thanks, Victoria.

I'm so happy you're here. Thanks for asking.

And to my right, I have to tell you, in Nashville,

I knew about him before I ever met him

because there was just a buzz around the city,

and everybody said the same thing,

"Great songwriter, great voice, great songwriter, great voice."

And he eventually started out as a...

writing hits for people like Tim McGraw

and the Eli Young Band and a guy named Garth Brooks.

You know, he brought him his comeback song,

"More Than a Memory," which was amazing,

and then he got a record deal, and there was no stopping him

because he has dominated the top of the charts.

He makes it look so easy.

As a matter of fact, he just celebrated yet

another number-one song called "Rumors."

Mr. Lee Brice.

[ Cheers and applause ]

You're so sweet.

So good to be here!

[ Cheers and applause continue ]

Come on.

So how this works --

We're gonna have you play and you play.

It's like sitting in our living room

but with better drinks, so...

We'll do this one first. She just talked about "Rumor."

We just had a big number one with it, and it is...

It's amazing to be able to have that.

We wrote this -- I think I wrote this

about four years ago,

and I remember there was a thing out.

We were writing a song, and my voice...

Actually I had a vocal surgery two years ago,

so my voice had been getting really just ratty,

and, like, just I had to push really hard to sing.

So the surgery made you...

The throat thing made you sexy.

You know, the throat, it was kind of a little extra blues

on it, you know, and I always loved soulful music,

and I love stuff that moves you,

so I thought it was so cool to write a song

kind of in that time of my life,

and then now, for just a couple weeks ago,

we had our number-one party for it,

so this is called "Rumor."

Here we go. Two, three, four.

♪♪

♪♪

♪ Girl, you know I've known you forever ♪

♪ How many nights have we hung out together ♪

♪ Same little bar, little crowd, little town ♪

♪ 'Round this old dance floor

♪ My boys are laughing and tap me on the shoulder ♪

♪ Making a motion like, "Could y'all get any closer?" ♪

♪ They wanna know what's up why I'm still holding you ♪

♪ Even when the song is over

♪ There's a rumor going 'round about me and you ♪

♪ Stirring up our little town the last week or two ♪

♪ Yeah

♪ So tell me why we even trying to deny this feeling ♪

♪ I feel it, don't you feel it, too ♪

♪ Yeah

♪ There's a rumor going 'round and 'round and 'round ♪

♪ What d'you say we make it true? ♪

♪ We make it true, baby

♪ Yeah

♪♪

♪♪

♪ Well, I can shut them down, tell them all they're crazy ♪

♪ I can do whatever you want me to do, baby ♪

♪ Or you could lay one on me right now ♪

♪ We could really give them something to talk about ♪

♪ There's a rumor going 'round about me and you ♪

♪ Stirring up our little town the last week or two ♪

♪ Yeah

♪ So tell me why we even trying to deny this feeling ♪

♪ I feel it, don't you feel it, too ♪

♪ Yeah

♪ There's a rumor going 'round and 'round and 'round ♪

♪ What d'you say we make it true? ♪

♪ We make it true, baby

♪♪

♪ Woo, woo, woo

♪ Oh, be honest, girl

♪ Do you want to do this or not ♪

♪ Should we keep them talking, girl ♪

♪ Or should we just make them stop ♪

♪ There's a rumor going 'round about me and you ♪

♪ Stirring up our little town the last week or two ♪

♪ Whoa

♪ So tell me why we even trying to deny this feeling ♪

♪ I feel it, don't you feel it, too ♪

♪ Yeah

♪ There's a rumor going 'round and 'round and 'round ♪

♪ What d'you say we make it

♪ Yeah, we make it true, baby

♪ Alright

♪ Mm, we make it true

♪ Yeah, let's really give them something to talk about, baby ♪

♪ Yeah

♪ Yeah, there's a rumor going 'round ♪

[ Cheers and applause ]

Thank y'all. Lee Brice.

Your turn, Patty.

Maybe I should've gone first.

So the first song I'm gonna to do is a song

called "No Mistakes."

I like to say that this is a supermarket song

because you know you're talking about

it's in, like, "Guitar Hero,"

but I always used to hear it

in the supermarket for some reason.

I like to feel like I, you know,

help you make good, nutritious choices

while you're shopping.

But this song was the last song I wrote on that album.

I moved out to L.A. in, like, '92 and released the record,

and it was the last song I wrote.

I was taking my 5-year-old daughter out to L.A.

and leaving her dad in New York,

and I felt really bad about it.

What I was trying to do, you know, the gist of it is,

like, there's no mistakes if you're coming

from a loving place, right?

That was what the song was about,

and after the song came out,

I got this letter from this preacher,

and he was furious at me and irate

that I had written the song

and that, like, I was telling people

that it's okay for them to cheat,

and he wrote me this whole long letter, you know?

I sat down and wrote him a letter,

and I wrote him a letter and said, you know,

"This song is about my daughter, dude. Alright?"

And like... And he wrote me

back the sweetest letter about his children

and how he had had all these problems with his sons,

and, like, we became, like, you know, pen pals for a while

because he didn't realize.

He just...It's funny what people read into songs, right?

And some of my greatest love songs

I've written for my kids. That's the truth.

You know, for my kids and for, you know, other people,

for my husband and my dad, my mom,

so this song is called "No Mistakes."

Wait. I have a question. Sorry.

Did you say it was a minister who wrote you?

Yeah, it was a minister. He was like...

And you called him dude? I love that.

Yeah.

Well, I probably wrote, you know, "Dear Crazy Man,"

but I straightened him out.

You did. You did.

♪♪

♪♪

♪ The summer is gone

♪ I can't believe it went so fast ♪

♪ Why do only the cold and lonely times seem to last ♪

♪ Now it's late at night

♪ I watch you sleeping

♪ I want to wake you up

♪ And tell you I'm sorry though I know ♪

♪ I can't make it up

♪ And I made my mistakes now, baby ♪

♪ But I did the best I could

♪ It takes what it takes

♪ And sometimes it takes much more than it should ♪

♪ To just make the choices that we both have been dreaming of ♪

♪ There are no mistakes in love ♪

♪♪

♪ I walk through a fire in my dreams ♪

♪ Just to pull you through

♪ But when I'm awake, somehow it seems ♪

♪ I'm just so hard on you

♪ But, baby, a change has got to come ♪

♪ And I can't see

♪ Well, after another winter is gone ♪

♪ Well, who's gonna rescue me

♪ There are no mistakes now, baby ♪

♪ We did the best we could

♪ It takes what it takes

♪ And sometimes it takes longer than it should ♪

♪ To just make the kind of life ♪

♪ That we both have been dreaming of ♪

♪ There are no mistakes in love ♪

♪ The nights are much colder now ♪

♪ And I feel the need to have you near ♪

♪ And maybe we could start all over ♪

♪ I feel a change in the air

♪ Yeah

♪♪

♪ We made no mistakes now, baby ♪

♪ We do the best we can

♪ It just takes what it takes

♪ And sometimes it's so hard to understand ♪

♪ And just take the chances that we all have been dreaming of ♪

♪ There are no mistakes in love ♪

♪ There are no mistakes in love ♪

♪ No, no

♪ There are no mistakes in love ♪

♪ We made no mistakes

♪ There are no mistakes

[ Cheers and applause ]

Yes!

Patty Smyth.

Thank you very much. Thank you.

Keith Mack on guitar.

Alright. My turn.

I got so lost in that song, and I did feel.

I had remnants of shopping hearing that song.

I love that.

Life goals. Love it.

It is my life goal to be on Muzak constantly.

This song I wrote back in 1942, I think it was, and...

[ Laughter ]

A while back, but it started

because I was dating this guy at the time,

and I really liked the way he kissed,

and I thought the sound that kisses make,

that [smooching] is a very sexy sound,

and I was driving from New York to New Hope, Pennsylvania,

for a piano-bar gig I had.

[ Scattered applause ]

New Hope crowd right there.

And these lines came into my head,

like, the first five lines of this song,

which is unusual for the music and the lyrics to come in,

and this was before cellphones, so, you know,

I pulled over to the side of the road,

called my machine at my apartment

and sang it into my machine so I wouldn't forget.

And I eventually went down to Nashville,

and I met a guy named Chuck Cannon who was falling in love

with a wonderful woman named Lari White,

and we just...There was a lot of love in the air,

just not towards each other, and we wrote this song,

and lo and behold, it won the Academy of Country Music

Song of the Year, which was amazing.

[ Cheers and applause ] Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And I...Honestly, if you get the chance to win one,

I really, really recommend you do.

It's really fun.

You won one, right?

Yes. It's awesome.

Anyway, so this song was recorded by a guy

named John Michael Montgomery, and it was his first number one.

[ Cheers and applause ]

And also then it went off

and had another life across the pond, as we say,

by this group called Boyzone and became a big pop hit,

so it's amazing that this song...

All of it just came out because of...

All the success of it came out just because I was, you know,

writing about the way this guy kissed.

Imagine if I wrote about the way he...

Never mind.

I could've won a Tony.

[ Laughter ]

[ "I Love the Way You Love Me" playing ]

♪♪

Oh, nice.

♪ I like the feel of your name on my lips ♪

♪ And I like the sound of your sweet, gentle kiss ♪

♪ The way that your fingers run through my hair ♪

♪ And how your scent lingers even when you're not there ♪

♪ And I like the way your eyes dance when you laugh ♪

♪ And how you enjoy your 2-hour bath ♪

♪ The way you convinced me to dance in the rain ♪

♪ With everyone watching like we were insane ♪

♪ But I love the way you love me ♪

♪ Strong and wild

♪ Slow and easy

♪ Heart and soul

♪ So completely

♪ Oh, I love the way you love me ♪

♪♪

♪ I like to imitate old Jerry Lee ♪

♪ And watch you roll your eyes when I'm slightly off-key ♪

♪ And I like the innocent way that you cry ♪

♪ At sappy old movies you've seen hundreds of times ♪

♪ But I love the way you love me ♪

♪ Strong and wild

♪ Slow and easy

♪ Heart and soul

♪ So completely

♪ Oh, I love the way you love me ♪

♪ And I could list a million things ♪

♪ I love to like about you

♪ But they all come down to one reason ♪

♪ I could never live without you ♪

♪ Oh, I love the way you love me ♪

♪ Strong and wild

♪ Slow and easy

♪ Heart and soul

♪ And so completely

♪ Oh, I love the way you love me ♪

♪ Oh, baby

♪ I love, I love, I love, I love ♪

♪ I love the way you love me

♪ I love, I love, I love, I love ♪

[ Cheers and applause ]

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Nice harmonies. Man!

Thank you.

Thank you.

I never saw myself having to follow that song.

Oh, we've got plenty of great songs to follow.

Dude. Come on.

I just called you dude like she called the preacher dude.

Dude, dudette. Dude. Dude.

Dude, I wrote that song for my daughter.

Hey, dude.

Yeah, but when I first started to really write songs

when I was, like, 10, you know,

that was about when that song came out, and so...

Ah. Get him off!

Get him off! No.

Get him off! No.

No, I'm saying that because it was, like...

Because why?

...such an influence on my life.

You couldn't have lied and said you were, like, 20?!

But how does it feel, like, that song...

It feels like I'm old.

It didn't a minute ago, but now it definitely...

Why do you look younger than me then now?

All paint and speckle.

Ugh. Go ahead.

That's a compliment. Thank you.

Okay. So that song...

He's showing off. ...was a humongous part.

It was a humongous part of the things

that I loved in country music,

the things that I wanted to write about,

how I wanted to sing.

Well, I heard songs like that,

and those were the kind of songs

that I wanted to write, and I came to Nashville.

You know, I started writing songs when I was 10

and came to Nashville when I was 21,

and I never left.

I called Daddy. I was like,

"I visited Nashville this weekend,

and this is where I think I need to be."

He's like, "Mm, wait a minute, son.

You've been at Clemson four years.

You got a year to go."

It's a 5-year program.

It's a 5-year program, okay?

Engineering. Okay. Come on.

But I was like, "You know, I could do this, Daddy,

but, like, this is what I'm meant to do.

This is"... And he, you know,

he saw me writing my whole life and singing,

and he knew it was in my bones

and what I really wanted to do,

and so I started cowriting, you know?

And so the first time I sat down

with actually a mutual friend of all of ours,

Liz Rose, and so I wrote this song,

and it was about what was going on in my life at the time,

and I was putting out a record very soon, my first record,

and I was like, "I'm going to put this on my record.

This is personal to me. I love this song."

And at the time, I was eating a McDonald's hamburger,

driving down the road, and I got a call on my phone,

and I was like, "Hello?"

And it was some buddies of mine, and they were like,

"Hey, man, we heard this song you wrote a while back,

and we'd love to record it," you know?

And immediately my thought was, "Ugh, I really want to...

I really think I want to put this out myself,"

but then I looked at that hamburger

I told y'all I was eating.

You know, a hamburger at McDonald's was,

like, 35 cent, okay, at the time.

The reason I told y'all I was eating a hamburger

is because there was no cheese on it

because I couldn't find the 10 cent

to put the cheese on it in my truck earlier

about 5 minutes before the phone call,

and I remembered looking at that hamburger with no cheese,

and I was like, "Heck yeah, you can record that song.

Are you kidding me?"

So my friends recorded this song,

and then it became a Song of the Year,

and as a writer, it's just, you know,

as big as you ever just can dream of,

and so I'm thankful for the song

and got it tattooed right here

and for the Eli Young Band.

They recorded this, so we'll do this here.

[ Cheers and applause ]

You know, it was their first kind of national hit,

and it was my... It was one of my first...

It was my first number one,

and so it was a huge part of my life so...

[ "Crazy Girl" playing ]

♪♪

♪ Baby, why you want to cry

♪ Really ought to know that I

♪ Just have to walk away sometimes ♪

♪ We're gonna do what lovers do ♪

♪ We're gonna have a fight or two ♪

♪ But I ain't ever changing my mind ♪

♪ Crazy girl, don't you know that I love you ♪

♪ I wouldn't dream of going nowhere ♪

♪ Silly woman, come here

♪ Let me hold you

♪ Have I not told you lately

♪ I love you like crazy, girl

♪ I wouldn't last a single day

♪ I'd probably just fade away

♪ Without you, I'd lose my mind ♪

♪ Before you ever came along

♪ I was living life all wrong ♪

♪ Smartest thing I ever did was make you all mine ♪

♪ Crazy girl, don't you know that I love you ♪

♪ I wouldn't dream of going nowhere ♪

♪ Silly woman, come here

♪ Let me hold you

♪ Have I not told you lately

♪ I love you like crazy, girl

♪ Yeah

Where's all you crazy girls out there tonight?

Now come on now.

[ Cheers and applause ]

I've got a couple of them up here on the stage with me now.

♪ Crazy girl, don't you know that I love you ♪

♪ I wouldn't dream of going nowhere ♪

♪ Silly woman, come here

♪ Let me hold you

♪ Have I not told you lately

♪ I love you like crazy, girl

♪ Don't you know that I love you ♪

♪ I wouldn't dream of going nowhere ♪

♪ Silly woman, come here

♪ Let me hold you

♪ Have I not told you lately

♪ I love you like crazy, girl ♪

[ Cheers and applause ]

♪ Whoa

♪ Yeah

Crazy girl! Oh, yeah.

[ Cheers and applause ]

Thank you.

So I'd like to just announce

that I don't write songs like, you know...

like someone could get married to the song that you wrote,

you know, "I Love the Way You Love Me," "Crazy Girl."

I write divorce songs.

That's what I do.

That's my forte.

Although I've been married a long time,

but for whatever reason, no one

has ever gotten married to any of my songs.

I don't hear this song in the subway.

I took the subway here.

I just want you to know that.

-Yeah. -She's real.

-That's how I roll. -She's real.

I am from New York. You know that, right?

Alright. So this is the sad song.

I don't know what to tell you except when I wrote this song,

I was working with a guy named Glen Burtnik,

who's, like, this New Jersey rock guy.

He's a really good player and a really good guy,

so we just walked, and I got some coffee and water,

and he sat down at the piano,

and I had had this thought in my head,

and this is the way usually for me...

I don't know about you when you're writing songs,

Like, I get this thought,

and I tuck it in the back of my head.

Like, there's a danger

in loving somebody too much, you know?

That, to me, is like a super dangerous, scary thing,

to love someone too much,

and when you become a parent,

you really know that feeling.

It's terrifying, and so I had that in my head,

and then Glen sat down and started playing the piano,

and the song just sort of fell out.

It fell out of me.

I just started singing it and the words

and the melody and the words,

and then I went home and wrote the bridge,

weeping, and then I called Don Henley,

and I was like, "I wrote a song, man,"

because, you know, the guy is,

like, such a great songwriter,

and I was like, "And I think it's good."

This was before computers and, you know, cellphones,

so I was, like, dialing his number, you know?

And I sang it for him over the phone, and he's like,

"That's really good. That's really great."

I go, "Will you sing it with me?"

And he's like, "Yeah, absolutely,

I'll sing it with you," and this is called

"Sometimes Love Just Ain't Enough."

[ Cheers and applause ]

I hope that was an interesting story.

♪♪

I'm gonna try to sit down.

♪♪

♪♪

♪ Now I don't want to lose you

♪ But I don't want to use you

♪ Just to have somebody by my side ♪

♪ And I don't want to hate you

♪ I don't want to take you

♪ But I don't want to be the one to cry ♪

♪ And I don't really matter to anyone anymore ♪

♪ But like a fool, I keep losing my place ♪

♪ And I keep seeing you walk through that door ♪

♪ But there's a danger in loving somebody too much ♪

♪ And it's sad when you know

♪ It's your heart you can't trust ♪

♪ There's a reason why people don't stay where they are ♪

♪ Baby, sometimes love just ain't enough ♪

♪♪

♪♪

♪ Now I could never change you

♪ I don't want to blame you

♪ Baby, you don't have to take the fall ♪

♪ Yes, I may have hurt you

♪ But I did not desert you

♪ Baby, I just want to have it all ♪

♪ It makes a sound like thunder ♪

♪ It makes me feel like rain

♪ And like a fool who will never see the truth ♪

♪ Well, I keep thinking something's gonna change ♪

♪ But there's a danger in loving somebody too much ♪

♪ And it's sad when you know

♪ It's your heart you can't trust ♪

♪ There's a reason why people don't stay where they are ♪

♪ Baby, sometimes love just ain't enough ♪

♪ And there's no way home

♪ When it's late at night and you're all alone ♪

♪ Now are there things that you wanted to say ♪

♪ And do you feel me beside you in your bed ♪

♪ There beside you where I used to lay ♪

♪♪

♪♪

♪♪

♪ There's a danger in loving somebody too much ♪

♪ And it's sad when you know

♪ It's your heart they can't touch ♪

♪ There's a reason why people don't stay who they are ♪

♪ Baby, sometimes love just ain't enough ♪

♪ Baby, sometimes love

♪ Well, it just ain't enough

♪♪

[ Cheers and applause ]

-Wow. -Alright.

Well, in these shows, I always like to kind of

surprise you guys even more with another performer.

And sometimes I never know who's in town,

or I'll give a call to a buddy and see if they're around,

and that's what happened this time.

You have no idea how talented this man is.

Well, maybe you do.

He's an actor.

He's a singer.

He's a...I don't know if he's a dancer.

In my mind, he's a dancer.

And he's a really, really good songwriter.

You first were probably introduced to him

on the show "American Idol."

Yes.

And then he went on to star in a lot of Broadway shows

and even got a Tony nomination for "Rock of Ages."

He is multitalented,

and like I said, he's a real songwriter,

and I asked him to come and sing one of his originals,

so please put your hands together

for Constantine Maroulis.

[ Cheers and applause ]

Hey, hey!

And talking about friends in the audience,

I have hit songwriter,

Hall of Fame songwriter who was in town to...

He said, "If you need me to back up

anybody on guitar, I'd be happy to."

Please put your hands together for Mr. Gary Burr.

Come on!

He's actually a star of one of the other episodes.

All by himself.

Wow.

I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad I'm here.

Thank you for coming from New Jersey.

My goodness. Yeah.

No, I'm from Brooklyn originally.

But, you know, I grew...

[ Cheers ] Thank you.

I...And not, like, in a Williamsburg way,

like, I... Like, deep in it.

...was born in the deep Brooklyn,

the Greek area of Bay Ridge, Brooklyn,

but I grew up in New Jersey,

and I have a house out there now,

and I'm raising my daughter out in the burbs.

Your beautiful daughter. Yeah, well, thank you.

Wow.

Tell us the story, the backstory,

on the song you're gonna sing.

So, you know, I've been acting and put the songwriting away

for so long, you know, and then I don't know.

I guess I turned [clears throat] 40

and started writing songs again

and been working on this record for,

it feels like it's, like, "Chinese Democracy."

You know that record from Guns N' Roses

that took, like, 20 years to...

And he's like, "We're still working on it."

I cowrote it with Sam Hollander who happens to be,

like, one of the biggest writers in the world right now,

and he's one of these insanely talented friends

I never got to work with.

And we just wrote a song one day,

and we're such New Yorkers,

but we love New England also,

and I went to school up there,

and I fell in love there for the first time

and, you know, just spent every summer...

That's inspiring. ...in New England,

and he goes up there and writes all the time.

And so this song was kind of a throwback,

a Sam Cooke kind of vibe that I always wanted to do

because everyone expects me

to do a big rock song or something,

and this is a little bit more stripped-down.

So this is "All About You,"

and you can check it out on all the, you know, on Myspace.

I don't know where. Myspace!

Alright.

♪ Walked on a wire, girl

♪ Didn't care that the sparks hurt ♪

♪ And Boston was live for the young and wild ♪

♪ Hitchhiked to Cape Cod

♪ And prayed to a wild god

♪ I crashed on somebody's dead beach in the night ♪

♪ And don't you still remember

♪ The snow in November

♪ The car breaking down along I-95 ♪

♪ Little darling

♪ And all about you was all I ever was ♪

♪ My everything, my 22

♪ Ooh

♪ I, I keep holding on

♪ To all the love we lost

♪ I'd, I'd give anything if you needed me to ♪

♪ Ooh

♪ I'm still all about you

♪ Burned out the last spark

♪ Gave away your heart

♪ Married in Boston

♪ Bought a new home

♪ Yeah, I know you did

♪ They say it didn't work out

♪ You disappeared down South ♪

♪ The ice never melts

♪ It's the warmth in my bones

♪ Well, I'm calling for you, baby ♪

♪ All about you was all that I was ♪

♪ My everything, my 22

♪ Ooh

♪ I, I keep holding on

♪ To all the love we lost

♪ I'd, I'd give anything if you needed me to ♪

♪ Ooh

♪ Still all about you

♪ All about you

♪ Yeah

♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah

♪ Yeah

♪ All about you is all I ever was ♪

♪ My everything, my 22

♪ Ooh

♪ I, I keep holding on to all the love we lost ♪

♪ I'd, I'd give anything if you needed me to ♪

♪ Oh

♪ Still all about you

♪ All about you

Thank you.

[ Cheers and applause ]

Constantine Maroulis!

Thank you so much.

Appreciate it.

[ Cheers and applause continue ]

Thank you, Gary Burr, Hall of Fame songwriter, backup guy.

This evening is going so fast,

so we've come to your last song of the night,

and I have to say, normally,

I have everybody sing the songs that they wrote,

but I'm breaking my rule because it's my show, so I asked...

I actually requested for Lee

to sing one of his biggest, biggest hits.

He didn't write it, but he's got a great story behind it,

and it's one of the most beautifully written songs ever,

and everybody associates it with Lee,

so I asked him to play it.

Well, thank you. It is.

It's just one of the biggest songs in my career,

but it's also a huge song in my life,

and I kind of knew that.

It's, like, the reason I recorded it

because when I heard it the first time...

...it just put me on the ground,

and I was actually looking for a big tempo song

because I already had my record written.

I already had it done, had the ballads.

I had all the stuff, and I was looking for a big tempo song,

and so everybody comes in,

and they're playing these rocking songs,

and then one of the publishers goes,

"Hey, do you mind if we play you one

that's, like, not a tempo song at all?

But we think it's a Song of the Year."

And I didn't even get through the first chorus,

and I turned it off.

I was like, "I'm recording this."

I heard where the song came from.

The songwriters were riding down the road.

They hear the interview of a real dad

talking about his real son who was gone now,

and he wanted to be a soldier when he was a kid,

and he went and did that, and he never came home,

and so how do you deal with that?

And the writers are just riding down the road,

listening to the radio, hearing this,

and, you know, Daddy is like,

"Well, I truthfully like getting around in...

I drive around in his truck," and I feel like he's there

with me, and so that moment, you know, the songwriter,

it was like, "Phew." Right?

Later on, I meet the guy.

We find the father.

He's from Boston, and we told him,

"Hey, we just wanted you to know

that this song we've got out is some country music,

don't know if you listen to country music or not,

but we got this song out,

and it's truly about you and your story and your son."

He's like, "You got to be kidding me."

Well...

And so he had been listening to this song for months

and had no idea it was about him and his son,

and then he comes to Nashville.

We brought him to the number-one party.

He was there for...

You know, we were getting Single of the Year, you know,

at ACM, and so this is called, "I Drive Your Truck."

♪♪

♪♪

♪ 89 cents in the ashtray

♪ Half-empty bottle of Gatorade rolling in the floorboard ♪

♪ That dirty Braves cap on the dash ♪

♪ Dog tags hanging from the rear view ♪

♪ Old Skoal can and cowboy boots and a Go Army shirt ♪

♪ Folded in the back

♪ This thing burns gas like crazy, but that's all right ♪

♪ People got their ways of coping ♪

♪ And I got mine

♪ I drive your truck

♪ I roll every window down, and I burn up ♪

♪ Every back road in this town

♪ I find a field

♪ I tear it up

♪ Until all the pain is a cloud of dust ♪

♪ Yeah, sometimes I drive your truck ♪

♪ I leave that radio playing

♪ Same old country station where you left it ♪

♪ Yeah, man, I crank it up

♪ You'd probably punch my arm right now ♪

♪ If you saw this tear rolling down on my face ♪

♪ Yeah, man, I'm trying to be tough ♪

♪ Oh, but Mom asked me this morning ♪

♪ If I'd been by your grave

♪ But that flag and stone ain't where I feel you anyway ♪

♪ I drive your truck

♪ I roll every window down, and I burn up ♪

♪ Every back road in this town

♪ I find a field

♪ I tear it up

♪ Until all the pain is a cloud of dust ♪

♪ Yeah, sometimes I drive your truck ♪

♪ Mm

♪ Well, I've cussed, I've prayed, I've said goodbye ♪

♪ I shook my fist, and I asked God why ♪

♪ But these days when I'm missing you this much ♪

♪ I drive your truck

♪ I roll every window down, and I burn up ♪

♪ Every back road in this town

♪ I find a field

♪ I tear it up

♪ Until all the pain is a cloud of dust ♪

♪ Yeah, sometimes

♪ Brother, sometimes I drive your truck ♪

♪ Mm

♪ I drive your truck

♪ I hope you don't mind

♪ I know you don't mind

♪ I drive your truck

♪ Yeah

♪ Yeah

[ Cheers and applause ]

Thank you.

Thank y'all.

That may be the perfect song. Yeah.

I know. That's what I thought.

I go, "Stop." It's incredible.

"I don't even need to hear the rest of it.

I'm recording it." I cannot believe we are back --

down to the last song of the night.

It's gone so fast, and I've had so much fun.

Have you had fun?

Yeah, it's, like, flown by. It's just flown by.

Ain't broke a sweat yet.

We can keep playing, but we got to stop the show at some point.

But I just had a great time, and the reason it gets so fun is

because I have such incredibly talented, wonderful friends.

[ Cheers and applause ]

Patty and I, we bonded fast and deep,

and one of the things we bonded over

is that we both have daughters named Ruby and Ava.

That's wild, right?

What? Yes.

We both have daughters named Ruby and Ava,

so there's a deep bond right there, and...

Yeah. I'd say so.

...we talked. We got deep.

We got fast over coffee, and I just...

I can't tell you what a pleasure it is to have you on the show

and to, you know, for you to come up here and do this.

And, Lee, I can't... Thank you so much.

...tell you how... what a pleasure.

I asked Patty to, as we say, take us home with the last song.

She honored my request because this is one

of the best rockers out there. Yeah.

And I just thought it would be really fun

to have her say goodbye this way.

But I have to say what I was thinking about

when you talked about how that song spoke to you.

I'm gonna tell a little story

because I had a song brought to me,

and it was not, like,

a moving, touching song at all,

but I knew that it was a big hit song,

and it had, like, kind of goofy lyrics like shooting

at the walls of heartache, bang, bang.

But you know what I mean?

But as soon as I heard that song,

I'm like, "I am gonna kick that song's...

So I wasn't going to do this next song.

I told... Oh.

...Victoria. Yeah, I have to tell this story

because when I was first in Scandal,

Zack Smith and I, he had a band idea,

and so he had a bunch of demos of songs,

and he got all these great musicians.

Like, he had Elton John's musicians

play on all these demos,

but he couldn't find a lead singer,

and he wanted a chick lead singer, right?

So the story is,

is that I was working at a steak restaurant,

a steak house, and I picked up the pay phone,

and it was him, and he was looking for me.

So I went back to Zack's house,

and in his music room,

there were, like, papers on the floor,

and he was going through this, like, reel-to-reel tape.

Pardon me. This is pathetic.

Or maybe it was a cassette, and I heard this,

♪ Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun ♪

So I'm like, "What's that?"

And he goes, "Oh, that's the song,"

and so I see the piece of paper,

and it has another chick's name on it and his name,

and the song is "Goodbye to You," right?

So I'm like, "This --"

So I go, "I like that, chug-a-chug-a-chug-a-chug."

So we work on it and finish it,

but, you know, I was so green.

Like, I didn't know just because I finished the song

that I wrote the song with him,

and he wasn't about to tell me that either,

nor did he ever,

so, you know, we went into the studio

and cut that track, and that became the single,

the one single we had from the record.

And what's funny is, that chick's name,

Kathy Green, her name came off the song.

So he's the only one? So he's the only writer.

What? Yeah. So I was telling Victoria.

I'm like, "I don't need to tell that story."

I'm like, "You know, like..."

She goes, "Why don't you, like, go after him?"

I'm like, "You know, the riches in my life

so far outweigh"...

That's what she said.

..."where, you know, like, I'm so miles behind...

beyond him that it doesn't matter anymore."

And by the time I figured out,

and I'm like, "Maybe I shouldn't tell this story on TV."

I said, "That's a real story."

That's so very Zen. You're very nice.

I would've sued.

I'd still be suing... I know I should've sued, but...

...just for the principle. I know.

Maybe I will, Victoria. Let's go get him.

Let's go get him!

It's not worth it.

He needs it more than I do.

From now on, I'm only listening to the parts you wrote.

Alright. Hit it, Keith.

[ "Goodbye to You" playing ]

♪♪

♪♪

♪ Those times I waited for you seem so long ago ♪

♪ And I wanted you far too much to ever let you go ♪

♪ You know you never got by, "I feel it too" ♪

♪ And I guess I never could stand to lose ♪

♪ It's such a pity to say ♪

♪ Goodbye to you

♪♪

♪ Now could I have loved someone like ♪

♪ The one I see in you

♪ Hey, I remember the good times, baby, now ♪

♪ And the bad times, too

♪ These last few weeks of holding on ♪

♪ The days are dull

♪ The nights are long

♪ Guess it's better to say

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ And, baby, it's over now

♪ No need to talk about it

♪ It's not the same

♪ My love for you is just not the same ♪

♪ And my heart, and my heart

♪ And my heart can't stand the strain ♪

♪ And my love, and my love

♪ And my love can't stand the pain ♪

♪ And my heart, and my heart

♪ And my heart can't stand the strain ♪

♪ And my love, and my love

♪ And my lo-o-o-ve

[ Cheers and applause ]

♪ Love, love, love, love, love

So hard to sing this acoustic.

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ Now could I have loved someone like the one I see in you ♪

♪ No, no, no

♪ Hey, I remember the good times, baby, now ♪

♪ And the bad times, too

♪ These last few weeks of holding on ♪

♪ The days are dull

♪ The nights are long

♪ I guess it's better to say

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ Whoa, whoa, whoa

♪ Well, bye-bye, baby

♪ So long, darling

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ Whoa, whoa, whoa

[ Cheers and applause ]

Thank you so much, Patty Smyth, Lee Brice, Gary Burr,

Constantine Maroulis!

Thank you so much! Thank you so much!

[ Cheers and applause ]

♪ And I wanted you far too much to ever let you go ♪

♪ You know you never got by, "I feel it too" ♪

♪ And I guess I never could stand to lose ♪

♪ It's such a pity to say goodbye to you ♪

♪♪

♪ Now could I have loved someone like ♪

♪ The one I see in you

♪ Hey, I remember the good times, baby, now ♪

♪ And the bad times, too

♪ These last few weeks of holding on ♪

♪ The days are dull

♪ The nights are long

♪ Guess it's better to say goodbye to you ♪

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ Goodbye to you

♪ Goodbye to you

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