What Does It Mean To Be An Ally?
What does it really mean to be an ally? Join Dyllón as he visits a baker in the heart of the Bible Belt who risked putting his business on the line to take a stand for LGBTQ+ rights.
- When it comes to LGBTQ rights,
allies play a crucial role in the fight for equality.
And in recent years,
the battle has been raging in an unlikely arena, bakeries.
Back in 2014,
a Colorado Baker claimed he had the right to deny
a gay couples service based on his religious beliefs.
And when he took his case all the way to the Supreme Court,
they ruled in his favor.
Since then, cake has been the symbolic center
of the fight for equality.
A so-called religious freedom laws
have cropped up in several states across the country.
Including here, in Mississippi,
where I recently visited a baker
in the heart of the Bible Belt,
who risked putting his business on the line
to take a stand for gay rights.
- [Mitchell] Welcome.
- Are you Mitchell? - I am.
- Well I'm buying.
- I'm selling . - Perfect.
- (both laughs) Welcome.
- All right, so I'll have a petit four and a green tea.
- All right.
- And I'd love to hear about the sign you have on your door.
- Sure thing.
Go ahead and have a seat, I'll come right around.
So talk to me about, the "We don't discriminate" sign
- Yeah, yeah.
- Where did all of that start?
- In 2014,
Mississippi decides to pass this Religious Freedom
that said that I would have the right as a baker
to discriminate against somebody for whatever I could claim
was my religious exemption.
The Governor was saying how bakeries were being harmed
if they didn't pass this law.
Nobody ever called me to say,
"Hey, we're taking a poll from the Governor's office
trying to figure out what we should do about this law."
And so I said,
"Hey, I want to do something that says to people,
I actually actively don't want to discriminate
against anybody for anything."
I just want to sell you a cake.
That's all I want to do.
If you're buying, I'm selling.
And so we've designed the sticker.
We printed them up
and started going around to businesses asking,
"Hey, do you want to put a sticker on?"
- So are there other businesses out here
that think like you in this area?
A lot in this area, took the stickers,
put it on their windows, put it on their doors,
and then we started getting calls from people in Biloxi.
Calls from people in Kentucky.
Calls from people in New Hampshire.
Hey, we saw the campaign and we want a sticker.
And so we would send out stickers on our dime.
Anybody who wanted one could get one.
- No one asked you to go out
and give these stickers to businesses.
No organization came to you and said,
Hey can put this on your door. - Nobody.
- Do you consider yourself an ally?
- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely.
I have a business.
And so there came that point of,
hey, are you here to serve people or are you not?
And does that mean all people,
or is it just some people and I decided,
business on the line,
to come out as an ally in the state of Mississippi
"I'm here to serve everyone that can ruffle some feathers."
We got like hundreds of supportive calls.
I got a couple that were less supportive
but that's, that's the moment.
You have to decide who you are.
- Did you have a lot of relationships with LGBTQ folks
just in your personal life?
What's your relationship like with the LGBTQ community?
- So, I'm a straight male.
But, I was a theater major in college.
And so I was introduced to people in the community
as early as 1992.
I don't know of many people who were out,
who were living their lives open.
At that time, even at the age of 18
what I knew about gay people, was all negative.
- What was some of the things that you knew about
that was commonly said about gay people at that time?
- They're all pedophiles.
They all want to find young boys.
You don't go to the parks at night,
because that's where they all meet.
You know, all of this stuff.
It was the Boogeyman.
They were the Boogeyman.
And then I meet my first gay man,
and I meet my first gay woman,
and they're like normal people.
And so you start to realize
how tough it must be and how difficult it has been for them
to just to be who they are.
And the fact that they are scared to death every day,
that somebody is going to attack them.
That was quite a lesson.
- How do you think having experiences with folks who have
a different life experience than you
has affected your outlook on life now?
- As trite as it sounds, it has made me who I am,
and has built in my mind the idea that we're all the same.
And that's something that
a vast majority of people in Mississippi don't believe.
They think of the gay agenda.
What is the gay agenda?
It's to go and get a cup of coffee and come have a doughnut.
And so we should be allowed to have the same life.
But we're not.
And especially in Mississippi, we're not.
In Mississippi we are told from an early age,
keep everything separate.
Blacks, whites, gays, straights, these are separate groups
they should not intermingle.
You know, keep everybody separate.
So, we have to fight.
We have to fight every day and push against it.
Just to tell people, we're all the same.
- So you've called yourself an ally.
What's an ally?
- Somebody who thinks that you are no different than I am,
and that you deserve to have the exact same
opportunities that I have.
Somebody who understands that there's right
and there's wrong, and I'm going to do what's right.
And so, for me, it's as simple as that.
- What is an ally?
- An ally is a verb and is an action word.
- Someone who will stand up for us
when we're not in the room.
- Who'll be there on the front lines when I need them.
- Someone that protects the community.
- Is in the trenches with you.
- The person that drives the getaway car.
- An ally, quite frankly, is an accomplice.
- It means really creating change in a radical way
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