Open Studio with Jared Bowen

"Basquiat" at the MFA, a Musical Collaboration, and more
This week, a look at the exhibition, “Writing the Future: Basquiat and the Hip-Hop Generation” at the MFA, a collaboration between musicians Richard Sebring and Charles Overton, to create “Listen, to the Cry of Your Fellow Man,” streaming at the BSO. Plus, Nevada based and classically trained French painter Stephane Cellier and the Wisconsin Artists Biennial at the Museum of Wisconsin Art.
TRANSCRIPT
>> JARED BOWEN: Welcome toOpen Studio,
WGBH's weekly spotlight on arts and culture
from around the region and the nation.
I'm Jared Bowen, coming up onOpen Studio,
artist Jean-Michel Basquiat
and the hip-hop generation that grabbed hold
of the art world.
>> This is a youth movement, and in America,
youth is everything.
>> BOWEN: Then in turbulent times,
two musicians and friends come together.
>> (playing gentle piece)
>> BOWEN: All that and more next onOpen Studio.
♪
First up, in the late 1970s and early '80s,
a group of artists moved from the streets of New York,
where their canvases were subway cars and brick walls,
to the tony confines of exclusive art galleries.
In a new exhibition,
the Museum of Fine Arts charts the course
of artist Jean-Michel Basquiat and the hip-hop generation.
Blazing off the walls of the Museum of Fine Arts,
the massive paintings of Jean-Michel Basquiat.
He was a New York street artist of the 1970s and '80s
who became a darling of the art world.
Three years ago, one of his paintings sold
for more than $100 million at auction.
Legend, icon, maverick:
he wore all the crowns so frequently depicted in his work
before his young, untimely death.
>> He often gets described as the kind of
sole Black genius, artistically, of the time,
and what we're trying to show
is that he absolutely was an incredibly genius artist,
but he was surrounded by his peers
who were on a similar journey with him.
>> BOWEN: This new exhibition at the MFA
is the first to examine Basquiat
and his fellow artists in the hip-hop generation
who changed the chemistry and sound of New York.
(old-school hip-hop playing)
Rammellzee, Fab 5 Freddy, Basquiat:
they were among a crop
of fresh-faced art world outsiders
from marginalized communities.
But they made New York theirs,
says co-curator Liz Munsell.
They came from many different boroughs--
Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx--
and then they began to converge downtown.
They were getting a little bit older
and they saw this incredible scene of 1980s creatives,
people like Madonna around.
And they became part of this club scene.
>> BOWEN: But before that, they were labeled graffiti artists,
hunted down by police for tagging buildings
and a most prized canvas,
the New York City subway.
Painting subway cars guaranteed
their work would be seen by thousands of people
as trains raced throughout the city.
>> There's a lot of chaos for the eye to see every day.
>> BOWEN: Writer and musician Greg Tate
is the show's co-curator.
He knew most of the artists featured here
when they all began to mix with performers,
filmmakers, and musicians in New York's downtown scene.
(club music playing)
>> This is a youth movement.
And in America, youth is everything.
So whoever is leading that charge is going to win.
>> BOWEN: What the outsiders called graffiti,
the artists simply called writing--
a form Basquiat noted had dated to ancient times,
and what artist Lady Pink said was like calligraphy.
But it was all a language the artists shared.
>> Abstracting it, coding it, crossing it out.
They really, um, in the vein of hip-hop music,
are incorporating really whatever they can
get their hands on and very freely, in an unfiltered way,
getting all of that into their canvases.
>> BOWEN: But these artists wanted off the streets
and into the galleries.
They demanded they be heard and seen.
The art world took notice, and in the U.S., two of them,
Keith Haring and Basquiat, rocketed into the stratosphere.
>> I could see the handwriting on the wall.
It was mine.
I've made my mark in the world,
and it's made its mark on me.
>> BOWEN: Basquiat's work was fueled
by his interest in history,
not to mention the years of museum visits
he'd made with his mother while growing up.
He charted his thoughts in notebooks.
>> I went to a party, went to one party at his house once,
and, um, you know, walked to, um,
walked past his, you know, bedroom
on the way to the, to the loo.
I saw there was,
like, a video ofSuper Fly that was on,
and then, um, you know, and then all these art books stacked up.
So when he wasn't painting, you know,
he was in there just, you know, studying the artists he liked.
>> BOWEN: Basquiat's work is also often populated
by random bits of anatomy.
When he was seven,
he was hospitalized after a car accident
and developed a fascination with the bookGray's Anatomy.
But it's this crown that is most ubiquitous in his work.
>> He said, "My, my work is about three things:
royalty, heroism, and the streets," right?
So he was also,
as someone who had gone to all the major galleries and museums
and didn't see any Black people represented there,
he's letting you know that, um,
you know, his royalty is the street royalty.
>> BOWEN: That reign would extend into the art world,
where Basquiat achieved superstardom.
But in 1988, he died of a drug overdose.
He was only 27, but he'd managed
to see his community of artists get their due.
And beyond that, says Liz Munsell,
they began to influence the A-List artists
they worked to be alongside.
>> Frank Stella, you can, you can see his referencing.
And he also, he also notes that he was looking at graffiti
and trying to find a different surface for his painting
in his late '80s works.
>> BOWEN: It was a hard-fought acceptance.
And for it, this singular group of artists hang together still.
♪
The Boston Symphony Orchestra is now streaming a new work
written by two musicians and friends
in response to the racial violence
happening throughout the country.
The piece, for horn and harp, is called
"Listen, to the Cry of Your Fellow Man."
>> (playing slowly and gently)
>> BOWEN: Gentlemen, thank you both for being with us today.
>> Thank you for having us. >> Thank you.
>> BOWEN: I'll start with you, Gus Sebring.
This started with you.
Tell me about the impetus for this composition.
>> Well, I was sitting down to a warm-up at home in my studio
shortly after the George Floyd murder,
and feeling very melancholy and, and quite upset, I guess.
I turned around to the keyboard
and began just improvising and playing a chord progression.
I keep my studio ready to record at all times.
So I just hit record and recorded this thing.
It was just a way of sort of
pouring out my emotions at the time.
Shortly after I heard it,
I guess I was thinking about Charles
and how, how wonderful it would be
if he was playing the harp instead of my keyboard part.
>> BOWEN: Well, Charles Overton, here, Gus reaches out to you.
You have a relationship as friends,
a student-teacher relationship, as well.
What did you, what did you hear
when you first heard his piece?
>> Yeah, I guess the first thing that I'd say I heard
was honesty.
I was pretty deep in thought about, you know,
all the things that were going on,
and when he sent this,
this example of him playing the horn and the keyboards,
I was just, like, "Wow,
"this is the first thing I've heard in all of this
"that just is so clearly from the heart,
"and is so present in the moment,
"and is not seeking to be anything
but what it is."
In all honesty,
it brought me out of a place where I was, like,
I'm excited to make some music again, to make some sound,
to lean into these feelings in a musical way.
>> BOWEN: Well, I was going to ask you about that,
how it was to start your contributions to it.
I have talked to a lot of artists during this pandemic,
and I get a lot of different answers.
Some people say it's really, really hard to work.
Some people say it's impossible.
And then others say what I'm hearing from you both, that,
that they find a way into it.
>> Right, I mean, from my perspective,
it was, it was just super-easy, because, again,
the sound that Gus was creating was so honest.
It was so easy to find my own voice inside of it,
my own way to support his, his beautiful horn playing.
So for this specific collaboration,
yeah, it was, it was just like butter.
(playing soft notes)
>> BOWEN: Well, Gus, I'm really interested in what you said
about, as you're watching this all happen,
you just inherently turn to music.
What does this tell us about you,
or perhaps musicians in general, that,
that that is the outlet that you need
in a time of crisis and anxiety and stress?
>> Well, I guess I, I believe
that the musical language is, is so, so full of nuance.
And you know how there are phrases in other languages
that cannot be translated into English.
I feel like, so strongly that,
that music speaks on such a deep level.
And, you know, when this piece just sort of appeared,
I was more shocked and surprised than anybody.
But I did feel like it was a release of tension of sorts,
but yet the start of a conversation,
and immediately, I thought of Charles, and I thought,
"This just sounds like Charles should be playing this," so...
Yeah, and I, and I feel like, that that really started
this conversation, and it's not so much a conversation
that we need to have in words,
but a sense of deep communication
that we get playing with each other.
>> BOWEN: So, Charles, how do you describe
what your contribution to the piece became?
>> I guess what I felt like I was bringing in a personal way
or a musical way was just this--
and I guess it was present from the beginning, as well--
but just this spirit of improvisation
and being in the moment.
I felt like it was an opportunity
for me to just bring my whole self in a way
that I don't know that I had before.
>> BOWEN: And Gus, I see you nodding.
So when you started to get these elements back,
what did you hear?
>> Well, I mean, I feel the same way about it.
It's one of those pieces that just is not,
is not any work at all to play.
It purely feel, it feels like,
like speaking or something, or singing.
And I feel like there's almost no style of music...
As long as it lies well on horn and harp--
which is a great combination, by the way--
then there's nothing that's, that's outside of our,
our musical palette.
>> BOWEN: Do horn and harp inherently come together?
Charles, I'll let you, you gave me the thumbs up,
so I'll let you field that one. (chuckles)
>> I was just noticing, just the way the instruments
fill the space together is just so natural, and it's a wonder
that it's not a more common combination.
(both playing gently)
>> BOWEN: "Listen, to the Cry of Your Fellow Man,"
the title-- who came up with it?
>> I guess I did.
>> BOWEN: And how did you, how did it come?
>> So I really just thought
that listening both on a personal and a societal level
was gonna be something super- important for us to do as,
you know, just as, just as human beings.
And that especially at that time, and still today,
just to listen to those voices
that might be a little bit more difficult to hear,
that have not been heard,
or even to go so far as silenced, you know, in the past.
>> BOWEN: I understand there's a...
There's an unresolved nature,
a deliberately unresolved nature to the, to the composition.
Tell me about that.
>> Again, how it just sort of ended up,
and I assume that that's just a product of my emotions
at the time that it, that it poured forth.
But when I thought about it,
I thought it really is a question in my mind whether,
whether people can, can truly be empathetic, and whether
they, you know, whether there's a cruel streak in humanity
that, that's required to do an "us and them" scenario,
or whether we can get past that in some way.
And so that's, I think, what lends that, that's...
That's what the questioning nature of the end of
the piece, where it sort of tapers off, um, that way.
It ends in the Lydian mode, which is sort of a
not really settled, almost major, happy, but not...
There's something that's still sort of sharp
or unresolved about it.
>> BOWEN: Well, it was wonderful to listen to.
I thank you both-- Gus Sebring,
Charles Overton,
thank you so much for being with us today.
>> Thank you for having us.
>> Absolutely.
(both playing softly)
♪
>> BOWEN: FromWicked to Alice's Wonderland,
it's time now for Arts This Week.
♪
Sunday, go down the rabbit hole.
White Snake Projects goes virtual
withAlice in the Pandemic,
an operatic adaptation ofAlice in Wonderland.
The Addison Gallery of American Art is open once again
and with free admission.
Tuesday, explore the museum as its exhibitions
pose the question, "What is America?"
The Huntington Theatre Company's audio plays continue
with a mystery based at the Harvard Art Museums.
StreamThe Moment Before the Lights Went Out
on the Rothkos Wednesday.
It's variations on the theme of war
in the Griffin Museum of Photography's
Tours of Duty.
Thursday, see eight photographers'
concentration on conflict.
>> ♪ So if you care to find me
♪ Look to the western sky
>> BOWEN: Friday marks the anniversary
ofWicked's Broadway premiere in 2003.
Based on Gregory Maguire's novel, the Oz-inspired musical
proved to be wicked good.
It's Broadway's fifth-longest- running show.
We move to Virginia City, Nevada, now.
There, classically trained French painter Stephane Cellier
melds past and present using a 15th-century technique
for 21st-century subjects.
♪
>> I'm Stephane Cellier,
and I'm an artist, I'm a painter.
I came from France, like, it was seven years ago now,
because I love United States, so I sold everything I had
in France and came here.
So I paint, I use technique from the Master,
the French Masters,
from the 15th century to now,
like the glazing
I'm using on that one,
the multiple glazing with transparency.
So like the grisaille,
I painted black and white first and add the colors on the top,
with transparency, so different kind of techniques like that.
I work on the wood panel, and usually,
I paint subject that are more modern
with classical techniques.
So it looks really classical, but when you take the time
to watch it, it's a little bit different.
I get that training in France
when I was in the French National Fine Arts School.
♪
The real first step,
it's the creation of the design,
so I've got some image that appears in my brain--
that's why my wife think I'm nuts.
She's probably right.
I look at pictures, I try to find pictures to see
how I can create my composition.
And first step is to create the design,
so I can create my design, and after that, I start to draw.
I just draw
and painting, painting, painting.
So I will start with a dead layer
to put the, very quickly, the light and shadow,
how it will look,
and after that, I will add layers and layers and layers,
and I build the painting.
It builds almost like a sculpture.
You add layers and layers and layers
to build the shape, because everything we see,
it's because of the light.
So the shape is created by the light, so you need to add
layers and layers and layers to create all the small differences
in the light that create the shape.
It's a long, long process.
I will add layers
with transparency,
a little bit like
when you use, um, sunglasses,
different kind of colors,
so they will blend together like filters,
and you change till you obtain
the transparency and the texture of the skin.
Sometime, there is, like this one,
there is around 50 different layers
to create the texture on the, on the skin,
and the, the transparency, the light inside.
♪
It's hard to stop, because when you are in this process,
you are in another world, there is nothing else around you,
and you work with the inside of yourself,
of your, your deep thought.
It's just a conversation with your soul, that's all.
You are with yourself, and you talk to yourself,
and you want to have a message in that painting.
You want to put the emotion
you feel when you paint on the palette and on the painting.
It's really a meditation process.
In my painting,
I try to express something that disturb me or something I like.
And sometime, what I like, it's when the people who will,
the viewer who will see the painting,
they will try to find a message about me,
but usually they will find something about themself.
That's what I like.
So, it reflects more what people think about it,
about the message I really put in that,
because my vision is completely different, probably.
All the viewer will have an opinion, different opinion
of that painting-- that's my goal.
So it's more like a mirror.
They can see what they, what are their real deep thought
and who they are.
So I want people to feel something.
Even if they don't like it, and they say,
"Oh, it's disgusting,"
it's okay-- there is an emotion, it works.
So, yeah, that's what I want.
♪
♪
♪
>> BOWEN: Finally now, we wind our way
to the 2020 Wisconsin Artists Biennial,
a showcase of the Museum of Wisconsin Art.
♪
>> The Museum of Wisconsin Art is a institution
that's been around since 1961,
and our focus is 100% on the art and artists of Wisconsin,
not only historically, but also, as the case here
with the biennial,
very much with the contemporary artists of Wisconsin.
♪
2020 is the fourth year that we have done the biennial
in our new building.
We are the permanent hosts, so it's a collaboration
between us and Wisconsin Visual Artists
to do this every two years.
♪
When the jurors select the artwork,
which they do digitally,
they came in with 42 works
by 39 artists.
You will see literally all, all manner of media.
You will see traditional photography,
video,
conceptual work.
You will see two-dimensional,
three-dimensional.
You will see sculpture.
But what was interesting this year
is, out of the 39 artists that were selected,
19 of them were actually first time being accepted
into the biennial, which I think speaks volumes
for what an attractive exhibition it is.
The way the gallery's laid out is that there will constantly
kind of be surprises.
That's really what artists are bringing to the table, is,
they're bringing their different perspectives on the world,
on issues within their own lives,
issues nationally, issues even internationally,
so just because it's a Wisconsin biennial,
the parameters of the show go far beyond the state.
The first-place prize was Nina Ghanbarzadeh.
She's originally from Iran.
She works very much with the pen as black and white,
and they're very subtle works.
You've really gotta get close to them,
and they're about current political issues.
Xiaohong Zhang, who is from China,
her work, the three round pieces,
they're about water,
and, you know, that's a, that's a global issue.
I really enjoy Martha Coaty's photographs.
I mean, they're just very subtle, beautifully composed,
and she's an artist we've watched for several years.
One of the great things about the biennial
is, you get introduced to younger artists,
or artists that you're not familiar with,
and you can kind of follow their work, so you can see
how an artist's work develops over the years.
♪
>> The previous winner of the last biennial
gets a solo exhibition.
It's an opportunity to elaborate on the work that they had done
that placed them at the vanguard of art in Wisconsin.
So this year, we have
Mark Klassen, who was the 2018
top prize winner for the biennial.
He won with a piece called Air Conditioner,
which is also in his solo exhibition.
♪
The exhibition is entitled Combustible Dust.
>> The title of Combustible Dust
that everything around us has the potential of harming us
in some way, as these sort of
subtle anxieties that we have
about our environment or our world.
>> Mark Klassen primarily works with sculpture, and many,
if you encounter them on a day-to-day basis,
you might overlook them.
They're a sort of interesting update
of thetrompe l'oeil tradition,
meaning "fool the eye,"
which has traditionally been associated with painters.
What's unique about Mark's take on this is that
he's doing it with sculpture.
So he has a virtuosic command of wood that allows him
to fool us into thinking that
this is actually an air conditioner,
this is actually a foam finger.
>> The nature of making art
and making these objects out of wood,
you are studying these objects,
and you're applying some craft and attention
to figure out how to deconstruct a commercially made object
and then re-create that object in wood.
I think they look a bit like
clip art, because they don't have that
kind of fine patina of a real object.
They look like an oversimplified version of that,
of whatever that object is
that I'm creating out of wood.
It's a really great opportunity to exhibit
in this kind of capacity for an artist,
particularly because
it's only in a solo exhibition where you get
kind of the breadth of somebody's work.
>> I think that people will
enjoy the occasional challenge in trying to interpret
what Mark was going for and how it relates
to the overall thematics of the exhibition.
♪
I'm proud of the diversity of works,
of artists' backgrounds,
of the media that they're working with,
of the themes, of their relationship to art history.
It's a really rich cross-section
of what's happening in the state.
>> People are appreciative that there is a museum
whose main focus is to care about what they actually do
and what they produce here in the state of Wisconsin.
♪
>> BOWEN: And that is all for this edition ofOpen Studio.
Next week, the photographers documenting
the defining images of our time.
Plus the rare historic images of men in the love
that dare not speak its name.
Until then, I'm Jared Bowen.
Thanks for joining us.
As always, you can visit us online at GBH.org/OpenStudio.
And you can follow us on Instagram and Twitter,
@OpenStudioGBH.
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