NYC-ARTS

S2014 E61 | FULL EPISODE

NYC-ARTS Full Episode: February 6, 2014

On location at the Gagosian Gallery in Chelsea, Christina Ha talks with artist Richard Serra about his latest work and then presents the arts and culture news. A look at the enterprising career of photographer Lynn Goldsmith: known in particular for her portraits, her work has appeared in major publications for more than 35 years.

AIRED: February 06, 2014 | 0:27:46
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>>> FUNDING FOR "NYC-ARTS" I

MADE POSSIBLE BY ROSALIND P.

WALTER

THE AGNES VARIS TRUST,

SUPPORTING AFFORDABLE ACCESS T

THE ARTS, EDUCATION, AND HEALT

CARE

JODY AND JOHN ARNHOLD.

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MILTON & SALLY AVERY ART

FOUNDATION

AND ELROY AND TERRY KRUMHOLZ

FOUNDATION

THIS PROGRAM IS SUPPORTED, I

PART, BY PUBLIC FUNDS FROM THE

NEW YORK CITY DEPARTMENT O

CULTURAL AFFAIRS IN PARTNERSHI

WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

ADDITIONAL FUNDING PROVIDED BY

MEMBERS OF THIRTEEN.

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>>> GOOD EVENING, I'M PHILIPPE

DE MONTEBELLO ON LOCATION AT THE

METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF ART

>> AND I'M PAULA ZAHN AT THE

TISCH WNET STUDIOS AT LINCOL

SENATOR.

WELCOME TO "NYC-ARTS."

AS ALWAYS, WE BRING YOU THE VERY

BEST IN ARTS AND CULTURE

WHETHER UPTOWN OR DOWNTOWN

REFLECTING THE RICH CREATIVE

LIFE OF NEW YORK CITY PAST AND

PRESENT.

IN TONIGHT'S PROGRAM, THE WORL

OF POP AND ROCK MUSIC MEET THE

CAMERA HEAD ON

JOINING FORCES TO CREATE THEIR

OWN DYNAMIC ART FORM

THIS EVENING WE'LL LOOK AT THE

ENTERPRISING CAREER OF LYN

GOLDSMITH.

KNOWN IN PARTICULAR FOR HE

PORTRAITS, HER WORK HAS APPEARED

IN MAJOR PUBLICATIONS FOR MORE

THAN 35 YEARS.

SHE CAME OF AGE IN THE MIDWEST

IN THE TUMULTUOUS '60s AND

CRASHED THE MUSIC SCENE IN NEW

YORK IN THE '70s, EMERGING A

ONE OF ITS LEADING IMAGE MAKERS.

WITH MORE THAN 100 ALBUM COVER

TO HER CREDIT, THE STORY O

ROCK'N'ROLL LIVES IN HER

PHOTOGRAPHS.

BUT FIRST, LET'S BEGIN THE

EVENING WITH AN INSIDE LOOK AT

THE CONTEMPORARY ART SCENE I

CHELSEA.

THIS WEEK "NYC-ARTS" VISITED THE

GAGOSIAN GALLERY ON WEST 24t

STREET

ONE OF THE 13 GAGOSIAN LOCATIONS

THROUGHOUT THE WORLD

SCULPTOR RICHARD SERRA WAS

GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO DROP BY THE

GALLERY TO TALK ABOUT HIS WORK

NOW ON VIEW HERE IN THE CITY

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>> HI, I'M CHRISTINA HA FO

"NYC-ARTS.

I'M STANDING HERE IN THE

WORLD-RENOWNED GAGOSIAN GALLER

ON WEST 24th STREET IN CHELSEA

THIS CATHEDRAL-LIKE SPACE HA

27-FOOT-HIGH CEILINGS AND RUNS

OVER 90 FEET LONG.

IT'S THE PERFECT SETTING FOR A

ENCOUNTER WITH RICHARD SERRA'S

MONUMENTAL SCULPTURE

THIS PROLIFIC ARTIST'S NEW WORKS

ARE CURRENTLY ON VIEW AT BOT

GAGOSIAN CHELSEA GALLERIES

THERE ARE FIVE NEW SCULPTURES BY

RICHARD SERRA, EACH ONE MADE O

WEATHER-PROOF STEEL.

EARLIER TODAY, I MET WITH MR

SERRA TO TALK ABOUT THE CURREN

EXHIBITION AND HIS WORK, S

TREMENDOUS IN SCALE AND WEIGHT

AS A KID, YOU WORKED IN STEE

MILLS.

WHAT THAT YOUR INITIAL

FASCINATION WITH THE MATERIALS

>> I WORKED IN STEEL MILLS T

MAKE MONEY AS QUICKLY AS I COULD

TO GO TO COLLEGE

MY FATHER TOOK ME TO A SHIPYAR

WHEN I WAS VERY YOUNG, FOUR AN

A HALF, FIVE YEARS OLD

THEY WERE LAUNCHING A SHIP H

HAD WORKED ON.

HE WAS VERY PROUD OF IT.

IF YOU SEE A SHIP IN DRY DOCK,

IT'S COMPLETELY WEIGHTLESS AND

THEN THEY UNDO THE SHACKLES AN

THE TONNAGE AND IT ROLLS DOW

THE SHOOT AND THERE IS A MOMEN

WHERE THE SHIP SUBMERGES AND

EVERYBODY HOLDS THEIR BREATH

AND THEN IT COMES UP AND IT'

FREE AS A FLOAT AND ADRIFT AND

IT'S GONE FROM SOMETHING THA

WAS OBDURATE AND HEAVY AND

WEIGHTY LIKE A SKYSCRAPER TO

SOMETHING THAT IS FREE-FLOATING,

AND THAT WONDER OF THE TRANC

FORMATION, FROM SOMETHING THAT

WAS HEAVY TO SOMETHING THAT WA

LIGHT.

NOT THAT I SAID, I'M GOING T

END UP BEING A SCULPTOR, BUT I

WAS SOMETHING I NEVER FORGOT

>> OBVIOUSLY

WHAT WAS IT LIKE PUTTING THI

SHOW TOGETHER?

>> IT TOOK A LONG TIME BECAUSE

OF HURRICANE SANDY

ONE WASN'T SURE ABOUT WHAT THE

SUB SURFACE CONDITION WAS.

SO WE HAD TO DIG HOLES IN TH

FLOOR AND CHECK IF THE EARTH WAS

STILL COMPACTED.

THEN YOU HAVE A TREMENDOUS

AMOUNT OF WEIGHT HERE, S

THERE'S A TENDENCY TO OVERTURN

>> USUALLY I WORK IN MODELS INCH

TO A FOOT AND THEN IF I CAN, I

MOCK PIECES UP FULL SCALE.

BECAUSE IF YOU GET IT UP T

ACTUAL SIZE, YOU HAVE A MUCH

BETTER IDEA HOW THE INTERVAL

WORK

>> I'M DRAWN TO THIS

>> THIS IS THE SURFACE OF TH

CUT.

>> YEAH.

>> THIS IS WHAT'S UNDERNEATH

THIS

THE CUT ALSO LETS YOU KNOW THA

THESE ARE SOLID.

THERE'S NO SENSE JUST IN LOOKING

AT THESE THAT THESE ARE HOLLOW

PLATES

YOU KNOW IMMEDIATELY THAT THIS

IS A WEIGHT THAT YOU'RE LOOKIN

AT, AND IF YOU'RE HERE A WHILE

IT LOCATES YOU AND THERE SEEMS

TO BE A GREAT PRESSURE GOING

DOWN AND YOU SENSE THE WEIGHT OF

THE ROOM

THIS PIECE REALLY ISN'T COMPLETE

UNTIL YOU WALK IT AND YOU BECOME

THE SUBJECT OF YOUR OW

PERCEPTION, OR IF YOU'RE IN THIS

ROOM WITH A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE,

YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE HOW THE WAY

-- HOW THE PIECE MEASURES PEOPLE

WHEN THEY WALK

>> HOW DO YOU WANT THE VIEWERS

TO RESPOND

>> FIRST, I THINK THERE HAS TO

BE AN EMOTIONAL CONNECTION, THEN

PROBABLY A MEMORY, AND THEN YO

GET INTO ACTUALLY WHAT YOU'R

LOOKING AT

I HAD A COMPOSER IN HERE WHO

TOLD ME IT REMINDED HIM OF HIS

MUSIC.

FINE, I HAD PEOPLE TELL ME I

REMINDED THEM OF THE MOUNTAINS

I HAD PEOPLE TELL ME IT REMINDED

THEM OF THE WOODS.

AND IT'S ALL FINE WITH ME.

IF THE WORK IS OPEN, PEOPLE CA

BRING A LOT TO IT.

KIDS ARE THE FIRST PEOPLE TO

DOPE THE PIECES OUT, BECAUSE

WHAT THEY THINK, OH THIS IS

BIG PLAYGROUND AND THEY STAR

RUNNING AROUND IN IT

WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THAT IS, AT A

VERY YOUNG AGE, IF YOU TELL KIDS

THIS IS SCULPTURE, THEY GROW U

WITH THE IDEA THAT SCULPTURE I

SOMETHING THEY CAN PARTICIPATE

IN

THAT'S ALL TO THE GOOD

>> THESE PIECES ARE JUST

BALANCED ON THE BACK EDGE ONE TO

THE OTHER.

THIS PLATE IS JUST SITTING O

ITS BACK EDGE.

THAT'S JUST SITTING ON ITS BAC

EDGE AGAINST THE FLOOR

SAME WITH THESE PLATES HERE,

SAME

MAGIC!

>> FOR HIS NEXT TRICK --

>> HOW LONG DID IT TAKE TO PUT

THAT IN PLACE?

>> IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG TO PUT IT

IN PLACE

IT TOOK LONG TO CONVINCE PEOPL

TO PUT IT IN PLACE

ENGINEER HAS TO SIGN OFF ON IT

>> RIGHT

>> THEN YOU HAVE TO REINFORC

THE WALL

>> WITH SEVEN PLATES, SI

ANGLES, REALLY WHAT I WANTED WAS

DIFFERENT VOLUMES TO BE ABLE T

AFFECT HOW YOU UNDERSTAND YOUR

OWN BODILY MOVEMENT AND YOUR OWN

UNDERSTANDING OF SPACE

NOW WATCH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YO

ROUND THE CORNER

[ LAUGHTER ]

>> THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE DOES

EVERYONE DOES THAT, EVERYONE

DOES THAT.

THEY DO THE SAME THING

THE SPACE OPENS AND YOU KIND O

EITHER TAKE A DEEP BREATH, OR DO

WHAT YOU DO -- LAUGH -- AN

INVARIABLY THAT HAPPENS.

THERE ARE SIX DIFFERENT VOLUMES,

AND IF YOU WALK THROUGH THEM

YOU HAVE -- IF YOU PAY

ATTENTION, SIX VERY DISTINCT

EXPERIENCES.

>> THE PIECE "GRIEF AND REASON,"

IT WAS FOR YOUR FRIEND

>> YEAH, I HAD A VERY GOOD

FRIEND WHEN I FIRST CAME TO NE

YORK

ACTUALLY IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST

ARTISTS I MET NAMED WALTER

DEMARIA.

AND WHILE I WAS BUILDING THE

PIECE HE DIED AND SOMEHOW TH

PIECES CALLED UP TO ME AS A SU

TEXT SARCOPHAGI.

I HAD NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE

DEDICATING A PIECE THAT HAD

KIND OF RESIDENCE LIKE THAT, BUT

I THOUGHT, WHY NOT

WHY NOT JUST PUT IT OUT FRON

AND CALL IT "GRIEF AND REASON"

FOR WALTER AND PUT IT UP

LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THE

MAY.

IF YOU BEND DOWN AND LOOK RIGH

HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE

PIECES ARE COMPLETELY OFF TH

PLAIN AND THEY ARE LIKE JUST

BALANCED ON THEIR CENTER CORE,

WHICH THEY ARE LIKE TWO STONES

THAT JUST ARRIVED AND SETTLED.

BOTH OF THESE TOGETHER WEIGH

ABOUT 36 TON AND THESE TWO

BLOCKS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME SIZE

AS THOSE TWO BLOCKS, ONL

THEY'RE INVERTED

SO HERE YOU HAVE THE LARGE ONE

ON THE BOTTOM SMALLER ON THE TOP

AND THERE SMALLER ON THE BOTTO

AND LARGER ON THE TOP.

>> THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHE

PIECES YOU'VE DONE THAT AR

CURVILINEAR OR -

>> NO, I THINK IN THE LAST 2

YEARS PROBABLY PEOPLE HAVE

GOTTEN TO KNOW THE CURVILINEAR

PIECES MUCH MORE THAN THE FLAT

PIECES

BUT IT COMES OUT OF AN EVOLUTION

OF A LOT EARLIER WORK.

>> I THINK, LOOK, I'M 75 AND

BASICALLY WHAT YOU DO IS YOU

WORK OUT OF YOUR OWN WORK AN

WHAT YOU TRY TO DO IS ANALYZ

YOUR WORK AND MAKE THE MOS

ABSTRACT MOVES WITHIN THE BODY

OF WORK YOU HAVE, AND YOU HAVE A

TOOLBOX AND YOU HAVE CERTAIN

THINGS, TREES AND BRANCHES THA

ARE GROWING OUT OF WHAT YO

PRODUCED BEFORE.

YOU LIKE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL

BUT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT

OFTEN.

SO WHAT YOU DO IS YOU STAY WIT

THE PROBLEMS YOU HAVE AND YO

HOPE THE SOLUTIONS TO THOS

PROBLEMS LEAD TO OTHER PROBLEMS.

THAT'S ALL YOU CAN HOPE FOR.

>> WELL, I INVITE EVERYONE T

COME SEE THIS SHOW IN PERSON

PICTURES DON'T DO IT JUSTICE

YOU HAVE TO BE HERE.

AND IT WAS GREAT SPEAKING WITH

YOU.

>> NICE SPEAKING WITH YOU.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKIN

THE TIME TO TALK WITH US

>> SURE.

>> RICHARD SERRA'S NEW SCULPTURE

IS ON VIEW AT GAGOSIAN ON WEST

24th STREET THROUGH MARCH 15th

AND ON WEST 21st STREET JUST

UNTIL FEBRUARY 8th

>>> ON THE INTERNATIONAL MUSIC

SCENE, WORLD'S MUSIC INSTITUTE

PRESENTS WEST AFRICAN SINGER

ANGELIQUE KIDJO AT TOWN HALL O

WEST 43rd STREET

KIGJO IS ONE OF THE CONTINENT'

MOST CELEBRATED FEMALE ARTISTS

WITH DEVOTED FANS AROUND THE

WORLD.

HER UNIQUE SOUND IS A BLENDING

OF TRADITIONAL AND MODER

INFLUENCES

♪♪

THIS MONTH, TH

SINGER RELEASES HER 13th

ALBUM -- EVE

SHE DEDICATES THE ALBUM TO THE

WOMEN OF AFRICA.

♪♪

>>> RIOULT DANCE IS STEPPING

INTO ITS 20th ANNIVERSARY YEAR

AT THE 92nd STREET Y'S HARKNES

DANCE CENTER

THE FESTIVITIES BEGIN WITH

PASCAL RIOULT'S TRIBUTE TO HIS

BELOVED DANCE MENTORS.

♪♪

ON THE PROGRAM FOR TWO EVENING

PERFORMANCES ARE A RESTAGING O

MAY O'DONNELL'S "SUSPENSION.

A RE-EMERGENCE OF MARTHA

GRAEME'S 1940 "EL PENITENTE.

AS WELL AS TWO RIOULT WORKS,

INCLUDING "VIEWS OF THE FLEETING

WORLD.

RIOULT IS AT THE HARKNESS DANC

CENTER FEBRUARY 14th AND 15th.

NEW YORK FASHION WEEKS KICKS OFF

TODAY WITH THE LATEST FALL

STYLES HITTING THE RUNWAYS

ARTISTIC INSPIRATION IS NOT ONLY

FOUND ON THE CATWALK, BUT IN TWO

BOLD EXHIBITIONS THAT EXPLOR

COUTURE AND COSTUME.

QUEEN SOPHIA SPANISH INSTITUTE

ON PARK AVENUE ON 68th STREE

PRESENTS LARGE SCALE

PHOTOGRAPHIC PORTRAITS BY MARI

TESTINO.

ACCLAIMED FOR HIS LAVISH FASHION

PHOTO SPREADS, HE WAS INSPIRED

TO CREATE "ALTA MODA" AFTE

DISCOVERING AN ARCHIVE O

COSTUMES FROM THE HIGH MOUNTAI

REGIONS OF HIS NATIVE PERU

THE SHOW RUNS THROUGH MARC

29th

>>> AT THE AMERICAN FOLK ART

MUSEUM, JUST ACROSS FROM THE

FASHION SHOWS AT LINCOLN CENTER,

FASHION DESIGNERS ESTABLISHE

AND UP AND COMING, WERE GIVEN

PROJECT RUNWAY OF A TASK

CREATE NEW ENASSEMBLES BY TAKING

INSPIRATION FROM THE MUSEUM'

COLLECTION

THE RESULTS ARE IN

A KATHRYN MAL AN DREENO CREATION

AND HER MUSE, A 1919 PAPER CUT

>> A CREATURE OF THE WIND DESIGN

INFORMED BY AN OUTSIDER ARTIST

>> JEAN YU FOUND HER INSPIRATION

IN A CARVED WOOD PORCUPINE

MICHAEL BASTIAN'S ENSEMBLE DRAWS

UPON THE PLAYFULNESS OF A GROU

OF SCULPTURAL WORKS.

KOOS VAN DEN AKKER GLAMORIZE

FOLK ART WITH A GOWN THA

SHINES

FOLK COUTURE, FASHION AND FOLK

ART, IS ON VIEW THROUGH APRI

27th

>> OVER THE BRIDGE IN BROOKLYN

BAM CINEMA TECH AT THE BROOKLY

ACADEMY OF MUSIC HAS ASSEMBLED A

SHOWCASE OF 20 FIMZ THAT BEG THE

QUESTION, COULD YOU BE HER

VALENTINE?

>> SO YOU WANT TO PLAY WIT

KNIVES, HUH?

WELL, YOU PICKED THE WRONG

PLAYER

>> THE SERIES "VENGEANCE I

HERS" IS CURATED WITH SPECIA

CARE TO PRESENT THE FIERCEST

HEROINES THE CINEMA HAS TO

OFFER, IN CLASSIC, FOREIGN

HORROR, AND DARK COMEDY FILM

MAKE IT A DATE IF YOU DARE AND

ENJOY THE SERIES FROM FEBRUARY

7th THROUGH THE 18th

FOR MORE INFORMATION ON CULTURAL

EVENTS IN OUR AREA, SIGN UP FO

OUR TWO FREE WEEKLY E-MAILS AT

NYC-ARTS.ORG/E-MAIL.

TOP FIVE PICKS AND NYC KIDS ARTS

THIS WEEK WILL KEEP YOU UP T

DATE ALL YEAR ROUND.

FROM THE GAGOSIAN GAL REAR O

WEST 24th STREET IN CHELSEA, I'M

CHRISTINA HA

>> BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, BOB DYLAN,

PATTY SMITH, DEBRA HARRY -

THESE ARE JUST A HANDFUL OF TH

ROCK'N'ROLL LUMINARIES THAT HAVE

FOUND THEMSELVES IN FRONT OF THE

LENS OF PHOTOGRAPHER LYN

GOLDSMITH.

BEGINNING IN THE EARLY 1970s

THE FEISTY MOTOR CITY TRANSPLANT

HAS MADE A CAREER OUT OF

CREATING ICONIC PORTRAITS OF OUR

FAVORITE POPSTARS.

LYNN HAS PUBLISHED SEVERAL BOOKS

OF HER WORK, INCLUDING THE

RECENTLY RELEASED ROCK'N'ROL

STORIES, HER MOST COMPREHENSIV

COLLECTION TO DATE

AS LYNN ILLUSTRATES IN HER NEW

BOOK, THE PHOTOGRAPHS ARE AS

MUCH ABOUT HER PERSONAL JOURNE

AS THEY ARE A DOCUMENTATION OF

HER FAMED SUBJECTS

♪♪

>> THESE IMAGES WERE NOT CREATED

FROM MY OWN DESIRE TO MANIFEST A

PHOTOGRAPH

YOU KNOW, MY JOB WAS TO MAKE

THAT READER WHO SHELLED OU

MONEY FOR A PUBLICATION, OR FO

A CD, FEEL CLOSER TO THAT PERSON

WHO THEY REALLY LOVE ALREADY, OR

I'M TRYING TO MAKE THEM LOVE

♪♪

I REALLY DIDN'T TRY TO HAV

MILLIONS OF PICTURES O

ROCK'N'ROLL PEOPLE

I DIDN'T THINK I WAS ON A PATH

TO GET THE TITLE ROCK'N'ROLL

PHOTOGRAPHER

I JUST LOVED MAKING IMAGES AND I

LOVED MUSIC.

IT'S JUST WHAT HAPPENED TO ME.

♪♪

>> YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A

SINGLE IMAGE WHICH GETS

PARTICULAR IDEA ACROSS

I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT A

PHOTOGRAPH IS A TRUE DEPICTION

OF A MOMENT IN TIME.

I DON'T LOOK TO IMAGES TO TELL

ME THE TRUTH

I LOOK TO IMAGES TO HOPEFULL

MOVE ME IN A DIRECTION THAT IS

MORE LOVING, COMPASSIONATE, AN

CARING

I THINK PHOTOGRAPHERS WHO FOCU

ON MAKING PORTRAITS A GREAT DEAL

OF IT IS WHO THEY ARE AS PEOPLE.

♪♪

I FIRST CAME TO NEW YORK WHEN

WAS IN COLLEGE

I WAS IN A BAND CALLED "TH

WALKING WOUNDED.

SO I WOULD COME TO NEW YORK WITH

MY BAND BECAUSE WE PLAYED SOME

PLACES LIKE LA DOME.

WE OPENED FOR FRANK ZAPA

I FELT EVERYTHING WAS HERE

PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTOOD ME, WH

WERE MORE LIKE ME.

I JUST WANTED TO BE AROUND WHERE

I FELT THE MOST COMFORTABLE.

THERE WAS A RECORDING STUDIO

CALLED SECRET SOUND STUDIO

MOOGIE KLINGMAN CALLED ME AN

SAID, BOB DYLAN IS HERE, WE WANT

YOU TO COME DOWN AND TAKE SOME

PICTURES

I SAID, DID YOU ASK HIM?

AND HE SAID, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH,

JUST GET DOWN HERE REAL QUICK, I

GOT TO GO.

AND HE HUNG UP

>> I THREW MY CAMERAS TOGETHER

AND I JUMPED IN A TAXI

I KNEW THEY HAD ONE SHOT AT IT

SO I WALKED RIGHT IN AND I STUCK

MY RIGHT HAND INTO BOB'S AND

JUST SAID, HOW DO YOU DO

MY NAME IS LYNN GOLDSMITH, AND I

WOULD REALLY LIKE TO TAKE SOME

PICTURES OF YOU.

AND HE LOOKED AT ME BECAUSE

JUST SORT OF LIKE BARGED IN.

HE LOOK THEA ME AND HE SAID, W

ALREADY I HAVEA PHOTOGRAPHER

HERE

SO I SAID WELL, WITH ONE

PHOTOGRAPHER YOU GET ONE POINT

OF VIEW.

BUT WITH TWO PHOTOGRAPHERS, YO

GET TWO POINTS OF VIEWS.

HE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID, I GE

YOUR POINT OF VIEW

SO I SAID, THEN I CAN STAY

RIGHT?

>> AND HE SAID, YEAH, GO AHEAD

>> I JUST REALIZED THAT I COUL

MAKE SOME MONEY FROM THE

PICTURES THAT I MADE -- CREA

AND CIRCUS AND ALL OF THES

PUBLICATIONS WERE THE MUSI

PUBLICATIONS OF THE TIME

ROLLING STONE WAS ANOTHER PLAC

THAT I WOULD CALL UP AND SAID, I

SHOT PICTURES, DO YOU WANT T

SEE THESE?

THIS PERSON IS GREAT, LOOK A

THIS, THIS IS HAPPENING.

SO I WAS LIKE A PUBLICIST, AND

IT ALL WORKED TOGETHER WHEN IT

CAME TO ROCK'N'ROLL.

>> THAT'S IT, STOP

>> CERTAIN PEOPLE HAVE BEE

PHOTOGRAPHED SO MANY TIMES THA

THEY COME IN WITH A FACE THA

THEY ALREADY HAVE.

YOU KIND OF HAVE TO BUST THEM.

SOMETIMES THAT'S DONE WITH

SURPRISE BY MY SCREAMING A

THEM

[ SCREAMING

>> SOMETIMES IT'S BECAUSE YO

NEED TO RAISE THE ENERGY LEVEL

SOME PEOPLE NEED TO THINK THAT

YOU'RE CRAZY BECAUSE IT ALLOWS

THEM THE SPACE TO BE CRAZY

>> SMASH IT, SMASH IT!

GOOD JOB, GO ON, GO ON

GOOD GOING, YEAH, YEP,

EXCELLENT.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH

>> I'M FAR MORE ABOUT TRYING T

CREATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUN

IN THE SITUATION, BECAUSE I WANT

TO HAVE A GOOD TIME.

>> THAT'S GOOD

FIRE

YEAH

♪♪

COME ON, GIRL!

>> I THINK THAT WHEN YOU CAN GET

PEOPLE TO COLLABORATE WITH YOU

IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVING FUN

TOGETHER

THAT'S WHEN SOME TRUTH OF WH

THEY ARE COMES THROUGH

♪♪

♪♪

IT WAS JUST WAY MORE FUN FOR M

TO PHOTOGRAPH WOMEN THAN T

PHOTOGRAPH MEN, BUT THERE JUST

WEREN'T THAT MANY.

I WOULD CALL UP LABELS WHEN THEY

HAD WOMEN.

YOU KNOW, ARE YOU SIGNING AN

WOMEN?

♪♪

DEBBIE, I FOUND THAT SHE WOULD

DO VARIOUS LOOKS AND MOVES THA

WERE AGAINST BEING PRETTY, BUT

THAT WAS IN LINE WITH BEIN

PUNK

SO THEY HAVE SOMEONE A

BEAUTIFUL AS HER DOING THINGS TO

THE CAMERA THAT WERE LIKE, YOU

KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WAIT

MINUTE, I WANT YOU TO BE

BEAUTIFUL.

IT WAS EASY TO ENJOY

PHOTOGRAPHING PATTI BECAUSE PA

PATTI ENJOYED BEIN

PHOTOGRAPHED

PATTI IS PART OF THE PROCESS

YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO

WASTE TIME TRYING TO BRING HER

IN, SHE'S IN IT.

I THINK FANS AND EVERYONE ELSE

KNOW WHEN THERE'S A MOMENT O

TRUTH.

SO YOU HAVE TO TRASH A LOT O

PICTURES AND EDITING CAN BE AS

IMPORTANT AS SHOOTING.

♪♪

I FIRST MET BRUCE WHEN "ROLLIN

STONE" ASSIGNED ME IN 1972

IT WAS SOMETHING ABOUT BEING THE

NEW GENIUS

IT WAS REALLY MY FIRST

ASSIGNMENT FOR "ROLLING STONE.

I WAS NERVOUS THAT THIS PERSON

WOULD KNOW THAT I DIDN'T KNO

WHAT I WAS DOING, JUST CAUSE

THEY SAID HE WAS A GENIUS, I

FIGURED HE'LL KNOW, I NEVE

STUDIED PHOTOGRAPHY.

I JUST MAKE IT UP AS I GO ALONG.

IT WAS FIVE YEARS LATER IN

TALKING ABOUT THOSE MOMENTS THAT

I DISCOVERED THAT, YOU KNOW,

BRUCE WAS ALL NERVOUS ABOU

BEING PHOTOGRAPHED BY A NEW YORK

CITY PHOTOGRAPHER, YOU KNOW, B

"ROLLING STONE."

♪♪

I WANTED HIM TO BE REALL

SUCCESSFUL AT WHAT HE LOVED TO

DO, AND I WANTED HIM TO BUIL

THAT WOMEN FAN BASE.

I ALSO TRIED TO GET HIM TO D

THINGS THAT I KNEW HE WOULDN'T

DO FOR OTHER PHOTOGRAPHERS

BECAUSE I FELT THAT THE IMAG

CAN'T ALWAYS BE THE SAME

♪♪

I DIDN'T WANT ANYONE TO KNOW

ABOUT MY ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP

WITH BRUCE

I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO EVEN KNO

I KNEW BRUCE

THAT WAS MY PRIVATE LIFE AND I

WAS NOBODY'S BUSINESS.

IF HE HAD HAD A DIFFEREN

OCCUPATION, I MIGHT HAVE MARRIED

BRUCE, BUT BASED ON WHAT WAS HIS

PASSION IN LIFE AND WHERE I WA

AT, AT THE TIME, THAT WA

DOOMED

I THINK A PIECE OF ME IS I

EVERY PHOTOGRAPH THAT I TAKE -

OR MAKE.

AND WHEN IT ACTUALLY WORKS,

FEEL AS THOUGH WHAT I'VE GIVEN

UP IN ORDER TO BE

PHOTOGRAPHER, IN TERMS OF HAVING

A FAMILY, HAVING A RELATIONSHIP,

I THINK IT'S WORTH IT.

AND THEN WHEN I'M HOME ALONE,

LOOK AT THAT PICTURE AND I SAY

YOU THOUGHT THIS WAS WORTH IT!

[ LAUGHTER ]

♪♪

I ALWAYS AM HONORED WHEN I HEA

THAT A PHOTOGRAPH THAT I'V

SEASON HAS GREAT MEANING FOR

THEM

>> I REALLY ENJOY YOUR PICTURES.

>> THANK YOU

>> I DON'T LIKE HEARING PEOPLE

TELLING ME, I HAD A POSTER O

YOUR PICTURE OF SO AND SO ON M

WALL WHEN I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD

ONLY BECAUSE THE PERSON TELLIN

ME LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE 50

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I LIKE TO

HEAR THAT THE IMAGE MEAN

SOMETHING TO THEM.

♪♪

I THINK THAT WE FIND OUR

PASSIONS AND VARIOUS THING

HAPPEN ALONG THE WAY

WHAT I'M HOPING FOR IS THAT WITH

THE EXPERIENCES I'VE HAD I

SHARING THEM, ALLOW OTHER PEOPLE

TO THINK CERTAIN THINGS AR

POSSIBLE FOR THEMSELVES.

♪♪

>> HELLO, I'M RAFAEL PI ROMAN.

WELCOME TO LINCOLN CENTER.

YOU KNOW, ALL YEAR ROUND, NE

YORKERS AND GUESTS FROM AROUND

THE WORLD VISIT THIS CULTURA

MECCA FOR ITS THEATERS

OVERFLOWING WITH THE BEST IN

MUSIC, DANCE, OPERA, DRAMA AND

FILM

THIS WEEK AT LINCOLN CENTER,

LCT3 AND LINCOLN CENTER THEATE

PRESENT "STOP HITTING YOURSELF."

IT'S A PART PYGMALION, PAR

BUZZLY BERKELEY AND PART

SELF-HELP SATIRE, WRITTEN BY

KIRK LYNN AND DIRECTED BY SHAW

SIDES.

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