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Superstorm Sandy: A Live Town Hall

Public broadcasting stations, including NJTV, THIRTEEN, WLIW21, and WHYY, team up with media outlets to broadcast a two-hour, multi-platform live town hall event on May 16, 2013. Hosted by Mike Schneider, managing editor of the NJTV’s news program NJ Today with Mike Schneider, expert panelists field questions before live studio audiences in New York and New Jersey.

AIRED: May 15, 2013 | 1:57:47
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>>> "SUPERSTORM SANDY A LIVE

TOWN HALL.

>> OCTOBER 29th, 2012, HURRICANE

SANDY SLOWED DOWN, TURNED TOWARD

THE SHORE AND STRUCK

>> OH MY GOD, LOOK

>> WITHIN HOURS, NO POWER FO

TENS OF MILLIONS

>> EVERYBODY WORKS WIT

ELECTRICITY.

WE GOT NO HEIGHTS.

>> NO GASOLINE

>> SEASIDE HEIGHTS IS COMPLETELY

FLOODED.

>> HOMES AND BUSINESSES GONE

>> YOU CAN'T APPRECIATE THIS

UNTIL YOU'RE ON THE GROUND

>> MASSIVE FIRES, TRANSPORTATION

HALTED, HOSPITALS EVACUATED.

THE SHORELINE WASHED AWAY.

THAT WAS SUPERSTORM SANDY.

>> TONIGHT FROM NEW YORK AND NEW

JERSEY PUBLICATION STATION

THIRTEEN, WHYY PHILADELPHIA,

WNYC AND AM 820 NEW JERSEY

PUBLIC RADIO, NJ SPOTLIGHT AND

NEWS COMMONS AND "THE NEW YORK

TIMES" THIS PROGRAM IS MAD

POSSIBLE BY THE NEW JERSEY

RECOVERY FUND AT THE COMMUNITY

FOUNDATION OF NEW JERSEY, TH

GENERAL CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATIO

OF NEW YORK, NEW YORK BUILDING

CONGRESS AND NEW YORK BUILDING

FOUNDATION, BERNARD AND IREN

SCHWARTZ, NEW JERSEY

MANUFACTURERS, PARSONS

BRINCKERHOFF, TISHMAN, STV AND

THE AMERICAN COUNCIL O

ENGINEERING COMPANIES OF NEW

YORK

AND NOW LIVE FROM MONMOUTH

UNIVERSITY HERE IS MIK

SCHNEIDER.

>> GOOD EVENING TO YOU AND

WELCOME TO THE THEATER HERE ON

THE CAMPUS OF MONMOUTH

UNIVERSITY IN WEST LONG BRANCH

NEW JERSEY, AND IN NEW YORK CITY

AT OUR LINCOLN CENTER STUDIOS,

WELCOME.

TONIGHT WE BRING YOU A LIVE TOWN

HALL EVENT, SUPERSTORM SANDY

WHAT WORKED, WHAT DIDN'T AND

WHAT'S NEXT.

WE HAVE GATHERED EXPERTS RIGHT

HERE IN NEW JERSEY AND I

LINCOLN CENTER IN NEW YORK

REPRESENTATIVES FROM GOVERNMENT,

ENGINEERING, UTILITIES

CONSERVATION, SCIENCE AND SOCIAL

SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS.

WE ALSO WILL BE TAKING QUESTIONS

FROM MEMBERS OF OUR LIVE

AUDIENCE AND WILL USE SOCIAL

MEDIA TO TAKE QUESTIONS AN

COMMENTS FROM OUR VIEWERS AN

LISTENERS THROUGHOUT THE REGION.

LET'S GET STARTED RIGHT NOW.

WHEN THIS STORMED NAMED SAND

HEADED NORTH AND BEGAN TO TURN

TO THE WEST, THIS WAS THE WORS

POSSIBLE PATH THAT A HURRICANE

COULD TAKE FOR OUR REGION.

THE DAMAGE TOTALLED $50 BILLIO

AND YOU KNOW, YOU'VE SEEN IT

WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING T

REBUILD OUR HOMES AND OU

BUSINESSES AND OUR COMMUNITIES

BUT THE RECOVERY WAS REMARKABL

AS WELL.

NEW YORK CITY SUBWAYS SHUT DOW

THE DAY BEFORE THE STORM HIT

THEY BEGAN RUNNING AGAIN JUS

FOUR DAYS LATER.

THE LIGHTS WENT OUT AND STAYED

OUT FOR MANY, MANY MILLIONS OF

US, BUT UTILITY COMPANIE

REACHED OUT AND DID GET HELP

FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY AND THEY

GOT THE POWER BACK ON.

SO WHAT DID WE LEARN

AND WHAT DO WE DO NEXT

WE WANT TO ASK A FEW OF OU

GUEST WHAT THEY THINK TH

HEADLINE ISSUE IS, SOME HALF

YEAR AFTER THE STORM, AS THE

LATE MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY ED

KOCH USED TO SAY, HOW AM I

DOING?

THE QUESTION IS HOW ARE YO

DOING?

HOW ARE WE ALL DOING

THE COMMISSIONER RICHARD

CONSTABLE, LET'S START WITH YOU.

WHAT IS THE HEADLINE IN YOUR

MIND SIX MONTHS AFTER?

>> WELL, IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT

HEADLINE, WE HAVE TO DO AN

ANALYSIS OF WHERE WE CAME FROM

AS WAS INDICATED IN THE PACKAGE,

IMMEDIATELY BEFORE SANDY MAD

LANDFALL, THE PRESIDENT DECLARED

A STATE OF EMERGENCY HERE IN THE

STATE OF NEW JERSEY, THE

GOVERNOR DECLARED A STATE OF NEW

JERSEY, SOME 150,000 OF OU

NEIGHBORS WERE UNDER A MANDATORY

EVACUATION ORDER

POST-LANDFALL, SOME 7 MILLION OF

OUR NEIGHBORS DIDN'T HAVE POWER.

SOME 7,000 WERE IN SHELTERS AN

SOME 44,000 HAD BEEN DISPLACED

WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY COME A LON

WAY IN THE SIX MONTHS SINC

SANDY HIT LANDFALL AND WE'RE NOW

STARTING TO RETURN TO A SENSE OF

NORMALCY

I LIVE IN ESSEX COUNTY

I WASN'T AS DAMAGED AS M

FRIENDS FROM MONMOUTH AND OCEA

COUNTY

WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO EMBARK O

NOW IS THE NEXT PHASE OF THE

RECOVERY, THE REBUILDING EFFORT.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RECENTL

PASSED A SANDY AID PACKAGE O

SOME $16 BILLION, $16 MILLION IS

FOCUSED ON HOUSING AND SMALL

BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITIES

MY DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO LEAD

AN EFFORT TO GET MONIES OUT TO

HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE IN NEED SO

THEY CAN HELP REBUILD AS WELL AS

MONIES TO SMALL BUSINESSES AND

THE LIKE

>> I ASK YOU TO HOLD THERE, WE

GOT THE HEADLINE AND WE'LL COM

BACK TO DETAILS, HOW DO YO

SPEND $1.8 BILLION

TO OUR STUDIOS IN LINCOLN CENTER

THE FORMER LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR

OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK RICHARD

RAVITCH, WHAT IS THE HEADLINE AS

FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED?

>> WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD PEOPL

IN THE PROFESSIONS IN PUBLIC

LIFE ARE THINKING VERY HAR

ABOUT HOW THEY FAILED TO DO WHAT

ACTUALLY A STATUTE IN EXISTENC

IN EXISTENCE AND THAT IS TO HAVE

A PLAN OF ANTICIPATION IN

NATURAL DISASTER LIKE THIS AND I

THINK THAT THAT MISTAKE WILL NOT

BE REPLICATED AGAIN, AND THERE

WILL BE IN PLACE BOTH

PROCEDURAL SYSTEM FOR ADDRESSING

IT, A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT TH

BUSINESSES THAT RESPOND AS THE

DID INSTANTLY TO THE REQUESTS OF

THE MAYOR AND THE GOVERNOR, GE

PAID, AND THERE WILL BE SERIOU

PUBLIC DISCUSSION OVER THESE

NEXT FEW MONTHS AS TO WHERE IN

THE PRIORITY LIST OF PROJECTS TO

UNDERTAKE DO YOU PLACE HARDENING

THE POWER GRID, BECAUSE THE MOST

LASTING DAMAGE OTHER THAN TH

ONES TO THE FAMILIES AND THEIR

HOMES WAS THE LOSS OF POWER, AND

THAT CAN EASILY BE AVOIDED I

SUCH A TRAGEDY WERE TO OCCUR

AGAIN BY HARDENING THE POWER

GRID AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT

SHOULD BE PAID FOR BY TH

GOVERNMENT AND NOT PAID BY THE

HOMEOWNERS IN THIS REGION.

>> MR. RAVITCH, YOU LET ME

EXACTLY TO WHERE I WANT TO G

NEXT, BACK HERE IN NEW JERSE

THE PRESIDENT AND COO OF PSE&G

RALPH LAROSSA.

>> THREE MORE AREAS WE HAVE TO

IMPROVE UPON, COMMUNICATIONS

WITH OUR CUSTOMERS

COMMUNICATIONS ACROS

INDUSTRIES, THE CHALLENGES W

HAD GETTING THE GAS STATIONS U

AND RUNNING AGAIN IS PROBABL

THE MOST POIGNANT ONE THERE.

WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE

UPON OUR LOGISTICAL PLANS SO

WHEN A STORM HITS WE'RE READY.

WE WERE FORTUNATE WE HAD ALL O

OUR EMPLOYEES THAT NEEDE

EQUIPMENT, HAD EQUIPMENT, HA

PLACES TO SLEEP WERE ABLE TO GET

GASOLINE THROUGHOUT THE STOR

BUT WE COULD IMPROVE UPON THAT

BECAUSE IT WAS A LITTLE BI

BIGGER MAING TUESDAY WE WOUL

HAVE HAD SOME CHALLENGES BUT

MORE IMPORTANTLY WE HAVE T

HARDEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE HAVE A PROGRAM WE'VE PROPOSED

ON THAT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO

HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS BUT

THERE'S A LOT WE CAN DO BASE

UPON THE NEW NORMAL WE'RE SEEING

IN THE WEATHER

>> WITH THAT IN MIND WE HAVE OUR

FIRST QUESTION, SIR, YOU'RE AT

THE MICROPHONE, COULD YO

IDENTIFY YOURSELF, PLEASE, AND

ASK YOUR FIRST QUESTION.

>> THANKS, MY NAME IS NATE

KLEINMAN, I'M AN ORGANIZER WIT

OCCUPY SANDY NEW JERSEY.

OCCUPY SANDY WORKS IN SOME O

THE MOST MARGINALIZE

COMMUNITIES IN NEW YORK AND NE

JERSEY AND I FIND IT DEEPL

TROUBLING THAT NOW EVEN SI

MONTHS AFTER THE STORM I CAN G

TO A TRAILER PARK IN SOUTH

JERSEY THAT WAS DEVASTATED WIT

THREE, FOUR FEET OF WATER,

LEADING TO MOLDS, BLACK MOLD, TO

THIS DAY AND FIND PEOPLE WHO

HAVE HAD NO CONTACT WITH FEMA,

NO CONTACT WITH THE STATE, WIT

THE RED CROSS AND THIS WHILE

PEOPLE ARE GETTING CHECKS FO

TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WHO

LIVE IN BEACHFRONT HOMES

HOW IS IT THAT THE PEOPLE WH

HAVE FALLEN THROUGH THE CRACKS

ARE GOING TO GET HELP AND HO

CAN WE MAKE SURE THEIR VOICE

ARE HEARD IN THE LONG-TERM

RECOVERY PROCESS

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOU

QUESTION, SIR.

PERHAPS MAYOR DAWN ZIMMER OF

HOBOKEN, YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH

LOT OF THIS IMMEDIATEL

THEREAFTER, HOW FEMA WOULD O

WOULD NOT HELP IN THE SO-CALLE

BASEMENT APARTMENTS.

>> FEMA'S APPROACH IS THEY DON'T

SHARE DATA SO THERE'S A LOT OF

ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANT TO COM

IN AND WANT TO HELP AND IN THE

CITY WE HAVE 13 COMMUNIT

EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM GOIN

OUT AND HELPING SO IF THERE WA

A SHARING OF DATA IT WOULD B

EASIER TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE

REACHING EVERYONE.

I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT TH

POLICIES AND FOCUSED ON TH

URBAN ENVIRONMENT AND WHAT THE

APPROACH IS IN THE URBAN

ENVIRONMENT.

THAT WOULD BE FIRST AND FOREMOST

CHANGING THAT APPROACH AND MAK

SURE WE'RE SHARING DATA.

THERE'S SO MANY ORGANIZATIONS,

THE RED CROSS, SO MANY DIFFERENT

ORGANIZATIONS WANT TO COME I

AND HELP, IF WE COULD LET GO O

THE CONCERN ABOUT THE PRIVAC

ACT AND I KNOW IT'S A CHALLENG

BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT LAWSUIT

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO SHIFT AND

BE FOCUSED DURING AN EMERGENCY

ON GETTING ALL OF THE DATA

TOGETHER AND TRYING TO REACH

PEOPLE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

>> SHEENA WRIGHT, THE PRESIDEN

AND CEO OF UNITED WAY OF NEW

YORK CITY OBVIOUSLY THIS MUS

STRIKE VERY CLOSE TO HOME FO

YOU AND SOME OF THE SERVICES YOU

TRY TO PROVIDE AND SOME OF THE

PEOPLE YOU TRY TO HELP

WHY DON'T YOU TAKE A CRACK A

THAT QUESTION, IF YOU WOULD,

PLEASE

>> ABSOLUTELY, I THINK IT'S

GREAT QUESTION

THERE WERE MANY, MANY PEOPLE

THAT WERE ALREADY IN POVERTY

21% OF THE PEOPLE IN NEW YOR

CITY ARE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE.

SO YOU HAVE SOME OF THE MOST

VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES AND

VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF THOS

COMMUNITIES WHO ABSOLUTELY WER

NOT PREPARED TO FACE A DISASTER.

YOU HAVE MORE HIGHLY RESOURCED

COMMUNITIES THAT COULD, AND

WOULD SAY THE HEADLINE FOR ME IS

THAT WE'RE REALLY AT THE

BEGINNING OF THE LONG-TERM

RECOVERY

I THINK IT'S UNPRECEDENTED THA

THE $60 BILLION OF FEDERAL

RESOURCES TOOK ALMOST SIX MONTHS

TO PASS AND THOSE RESOURCE

REALLY HAVE NOT HIT THE GROUND

SO THE SOCIAL SERVICE SECTOR

THAT STANDS IN THE GAP THA

WOULD GO TO THESE TRAILER PARK

AND GO TO THE PUBLIC HOUSING AND

REALLY, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATE FOR

AND HELP THESE MOST VULNERABLE

RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITIES

DIDN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES AN

STILL LARGELY DO NOT TO MEET

THOSE NEEDS.

>> I WANT TO STAY IN LINCOLN

CENTER, JOE NOCERA, OP-E

COLUMNIST FOR THE NEW YORK

TIMES.

YOU SAID IN SOME WAYS TH

AFTERMATH OF THIS STORM ACTUALLY

HAS PROVEN HOW MUCH MORE

EFFECTIVE INDIVIDUALS AN

NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS CAN B

IN DEALING WITH SOME OF TH

ISSUES, SOME OF THE FALLOUT FROM

A DISASTER LIKE THIS

YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT

>> WELL, WHAT CHOICE DO THEY

HAVE

EXCUSE ME.

WHAT CHOICE DO THEY HAVE

THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT OF NEW

YORK CITY DID A FABULOUS JOB BUT

BY AND LARGE, GOVERNMENT WAS

BUSY PUTTING OUT PRESS RELEASES.

IF YOU WENT TO, EXCUSE ME, FEMA,

IF YOU WENT TO FEMA AND TH

ROCKAWAYS THERE ARE A BUNCH OF

GUYS IN A TENT WAITING FOR

PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AND FILL OUT

FORMS.

YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS HAD TO HEL

NEIGHBORS.

PEOPLE FROM MANHATTAN HAD TO

COME OUT AND HELP.

NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS HAD T

SET UP SHELTERS AND DISTRIBUTION

CENTERS AND TO ME, IT SUGGESTS

NOT HOW MUCH GOVERNMENT CAN DO

TO HELP BUT HOW LITTLE

GOVERNMENT DOES TO HELP.

IT'S NOT THAT GIVEN WHEN YOU GET

RIGHT DOWN TO IT, TO WHA

HAPPENED IN NEW ORLEANS, WHERE

ULTIMATELY THE NINTH WARD IS

BEING REBUILT BY BRAD PITT AND

NOT THE CITY OR THE STATE OR THE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

BUT BY THE COMMUNITY, SO I'M

VERY DISCOURAGED, FRANKLY, I

THE WAKE OF THIS AND I DISAGRE

THAT WE WILL COME UP WITH A PLAN

AND PROPOSAL AND THIS WILL NEVER

HAPPEN AGAIN

THE NEXT TIME THIS HAPPENS I SAY

THE EXACT SAME THING WILL HAPPEN

AGAIN.

>> WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT AND

COME BACK AND EXPAND UPON THAT

POINT AS WELL.

I WANT TO TALK NOW ABOUT SOME OF

THE MOST VIVID SCENES WE'VE SEEN

OF THE DESTRUCTION THAT WERE

COVERED BY NJ TV, LAUREN WAS O

THE BEACH WHEN THE STORM HIT AND

JOINS US LIVE FROM SEASIDE

HEIGHTS.

LAUREN

>> GOOD EVENING, MIKE, I'M

STANDING ON THE BRAND NE

BOARDWALK HERE IN SEASID

HEIGHTS.

NOW, THERE ARE ABOUT TEN BLOCK

THAT ARE ALREADY COMPLETED HER

AND FIVE MORE BLOCKS ARE UNDER

CONSTRUCTION

EVERYTHING IS SLATED TO BE

OPENED BY MEMORIAL DAY

AS FOR THE JET STAR ROLLER

COASTER?

ON TUESDAY CREWS BEGAN REMOVIN

THAT COASTER AND THE THREE OTHER

RIDES SUBMERGED IN THE ATLANTI

OCEAN.

WORK ON THAT PROJECT IS STIL

UNDER WAY.

WE INITIALLY HEARD AGAIN OUR

REPORT HERE IN SEASIDE HEIGHTS

IN THE DAYS FOLLOWING THE STORM.

WE FIRST BEGAN OUR COVERAGE IN

CAPE MAY

LOCAL OFFICIALS THERE WERE

BRACING FOR A DIRECT HIT

THE MORNING AFTER THE STORM THIS

IS WHAT WE FOUND

CHECK OUT THIS STREET SIGN HER

ON BEACH AVENUE.

CAPE MAY OFFICIALS BRACED FO

THE WORST BUT THE SEASID

COMMUNITY SUFFERED MINIMAL

DAMAGE

WE TRAVELED FARTHER NORTH AN

SAW UNIMAGINABLE DESTRUCTION

THAT'S WHERE WE MET ORTLEY BEACH

RESIDENT JOHN TESTA.

>> WHEN I CAME BACK MY INITIAL

THOUGHT I WOULD BE ABLE TO

SALVAGE SOMETHING FROM THE HOM

BUT THERE'S NOTHING TO SALVAGE

IT'S A COMPLETE AND TOTAL LOSS

>> SIX MONTHS LATER WE REVISIT

TESTA AS A TOUR OF HIS HOME.

DISHES LINE THE DISHWASHER

FILLED JUST BEFORE SANDY

BARRELLED IN AND CHANGED

EVERYTHING

THE WATER LINE IS STILL VISIBL

ON THE WALLS

>> IT HURTS, EVERY TIME YOU WALK

IN THE HOUSE, IT REALLY DOES, IT

HURTS.

I MEAN, THERE'S MY LIFE IN FRONT

OF ME HERE WHICH WAS TAKEN AWA

IN THE SPACE OF MINUTES.

>> TESTA FINALLY RECEIVED HI

INSURANCE SETTLEMENT BUT

RECONSTRUCTION IS AT A

STANDSTILL

>> WE'RE ALL WAITING ON FLOO

ELEVATION LEVEL MAPS AND WHAT WE

HAVE TO DO TO GO THROUGH THA

PROCESS AND WHETHER IT'S

FEASIBLE TO EVEN DO THAT

>> ON THIS DAY, TESTA MEETS WITH

THE GRASSROOTS NON-PROFIT,

PAYING IT FORWARD FOUNDATION,

TEAM OF VOLUNTEERS WILL GUT TH

HOUSE FREE OF CHARGE AND HEL

REBUILD THE STORM DAMAGED HOME

>> THIS IS GOING TO BE A

ALL-DAY JOB.

>> MAYBE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW I

WILL LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

AND WE'LL BE BACK HOME

WE'LL BE BACK HOME

>> SINCE WE LAST MET WITH JOHN

VOLUNTEERS CAME IN AND GUTTE

THE MAJORITY OF HIS HOME, BU

MIKE, THERE ARE STILL SO MAN

HOMEOWNERS HERE IN NEED OF THA

SAME ASSISTANCE AND ON SATURDA

IN ORTLEY BEACH, CONTRACTORS

WILL BEGIN KNOCKING DOWN HOMES

ABOUT 100 HOMES ARE SLATED FOR

DEMOLITION AND CONSTRUCTION IS

UNDER WAY ON SECTIONS OF THEIR

BOARDWALK, THOSE PORTIONS WILL

BE OPEN BY JUNE.

HERE IN SEASIDE HEIGHTS MAYO

BILL AKER THINKS ABOUT 85% O

THE BUSINESSES WILL BE OPEN BY

MEMORIAL DAY AND AT THIS POINT

FOLKS ARE COUNTING ON TOURISTS

COMING DOWN THE SHORE FOR TH

SUMMER

MIKE

>> LAUREN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH

WE GET THE DRIFT ONCE AGAIN AS

LAUREN REPORTS THERE ARE SIGNS

OF RECOVERY, LIKE THE ROLLER

COASTER COMING OUT OF THE SEA.

WHAT ABOUT THE REBUILDING OF OUR

INFRASTRUCTURE

MAYOR MATT DOHERTY WAS SAYIN

THAT BOARDWALK WAS GOING TO BE

REBUILT.

YOU WEREN'T GOING TO WAIT, GET

IT DONE YOURSELF IF YOU HAD TO

WHY DID YOU MAKE THAT DECISION

DID YOU LACK A SENSE OF TRUST IN

GOVERNMENT'S ABILITY TO RESPON

TO YOUR GOVERNMENT'S, LOCA

GOVERNMENT'S NEED?

>> NO.

WE TOOK A VERY AGGRESSIV

APPROACH FROM DAY ONE.

WE WERE THE ONLY TOWN THAT HAD

ITS ENTIRE BOARDWALK DESTROYED

1.2 MILES AND IT'S PART OF THE

CHARACTER OF THE TOWN.

BELMAR HAS HAD A BOARDWALK SINCE

187 AAND BUSINESSES THAT RELY ON

IT FOR THE SUMMER.

WITHOUT THE BOARDWALK WE

WOULDN'T HAVE THE TOURISTS S

THE MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES THAT

OWN THE SMALL BUSINESSES WOULD

BE DEVASTATED.

WE TOOK IT UPON OURSELVES TO B

AGGRESSIVE ABOUT IT AND SET THAT

TYPE OF TONE THAT YEAH, OCTOBE

29th WAS DEVASTATING TO OU

COMMUNITY BUT WE WEREN'T GOING

TO LET IT DEVASTATE US

THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT TONE T

SET FOR THE HOMEOWNERS WHO A

THE SAME TIME WERE TAKING THEI

BELONGINGS OUT OF THEIR BASEMENT

AND FIRST FLOOR AND PUTTING IT

ON THE STREET BECAUSE NOW IT WAS

ALL GARBAGE.

SO WE WANTED TO HAVE A POSITIVE,

AGGRESSIVE ATTITUDE RIGHT FROM

THE START.

>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TH

INFRASTRUCTURE ON LONG ISLAND AS

WELL, TALKING ABOUT THE BELMAR

BOARDWALK, PLACES WHERE I TOOK

MY KIDS WHEN THEY WERE LITTLE.

I GREW UP ON LONG ISLAND, WHER

THE JONES BEACH, THE BOARDWALK

ON LONG BEACH WAS DESTROYED BY

THE STORM.

JOHN CAMERON IS CHAIR OF THE

LONG ISLAND REGIONAL PLANNIN

COUNCIL.

I HEARD WHAT YOU HAD TO SA

ABOUT THE LONG ISLAN

INFRASTRUCTURE AND WASN'

ATTENDED TO AS QUICKLY OR AS

SOON AS IT COULD HAVE BEEN

PERHAPS AND NOW IT'S A QUESTIO

OF RESOURCES AND WHERE YOU GO.

TALK TO ME ABOUT INFRASTRUCTUR

ON THE ISLAND AND THE DAMAGE

THAT'S DONE THERE.

>> THERE'S SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO

THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON TH

ISLAND

FRANKLY, THE WHOLE METROPOLITA

AREA

THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER IN

THE ELECTRIC POWER GRID, ON TH

WATER PLANTS, WASTE WATE

PLANTS, TELECOMMUNICATIONS

VARIOUS CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTUR

WAS DAMAGED BECAUSE, FRANKLY, IT

WAS NEVER ANTICIPATED THAT W

WOULD ENCOUNTER A STORM LIKE

THIS, A SURGE CAPACITY, SURG

LEVELS THAT WE ENCOUNTERED WIT

SUPERSTORM SANDY

IT'S GOING TO TAKE A NUMBER OF

YEARS BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY

MAKE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE MORE

RESILIENT SO THAT WE CAN

MINIMIZE THE IMPACT FROM ANY

FUTURE STORMS OR FUTURE MAJO

EVENTS SUCH AS THIS.

THERE'S NECESSARY DESIGN THAT'

GOT TO BE DONE

THERE'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICAN

FUNDING.

THE FUNDING WAS BROUGHT UP

EARLIER, SLOW IN COMING.

THE STATE HAS TRIED TO MOV

QUICKLY BUT WITH A THREE-MONTH

DELAY AND THE, AND CONGRES

PASSING THE $60 BILLION RECOVERY

FUNDS, IT DELAYED THINGS

SIGNIFICANTLY SO YOU HAVE

NUMBER OF MUNICIPALITIES ON TH

ISLAND TRYING TO DEAL WITH WHA

ARE THE FUTURE PLANS FOR THE

INFRASTRUCTURE

THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES,

COMING OUT OF THIS ECONOMI

DOWNTURN THAT WE'VE JUST COM

OUT OF, WE'RE HOPING TO COME OUT

OF, THEY DID NOT HAVE TH

DISPOSABLE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO

ALLOCATE TOWARDS HARDENING O

THE INFRASTRUCTURE SO FRANKL

THEY WERE WAITING FOR SOME

POSITIVE NODS FROM FEMA, FRO

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND FRO

STATE GOVERNMENT THAT THE FUND

WOULD BE AVAILABLE SO THAT THE

COULD PROCEED AT LEAST WITH TH

DESIGN PHASE AND MOVE THIS

FORWARD.

IT'S BEEN A SLOW PROCESS

MUNICIPALITIES KNOW THAT THEY'VE

GOT TO HARDEN TH

INFRASTRUCTURE

SOME OF THE CRITICAL

INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WA

NECESSARY JUST TO GET THE LIGHTS

BACK ON, THAT WORK WAS DONE, BUT

TO MAKE OUR WASTEWATER PLANTS IN

PARTICULAR YOU HEARD A LOT ABOUT

THE WASTEWATER PLANTS DURING

SUPERSTORM SANDY, WE DISCHARGE

BILLIONS OF GALLONS OF UNTREATED

SUE SWANLG INTO THE METROPOLITAN

WATERS AND WATERWAYS AROUND NE

YORK CITY AND LONG ISLAND, NEW

JERSEY

THE LONG ISLAND'S LARGES

TREATMENT PLANT, BAY PARK, WAS

DOWN FOR A NUMBER OF DAYS,

BACKED UP SEWAGE INTO BASEMENT

AND STREETS, ET CETERA

WHETHER IT WILL BE THE

ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT OR STANDB

GENERATORS HAS TO BE ELEVATED,

GOT TO BE PROTECTED OTHERWIS

THESE EVENTS ARE STILL GOING T

TAKE US OUT IN THE FUTURE AN

FRANKLY IT'S A MAJOR PUBLI

HEALTH AND ECONOMIC IMPACT T

THE METROPOLITAN AREA.

>> BACK HERE IN NEW JERSEY

RALPH, YOUR PARENT COMPANY I

ABOUT TO TAKE OVER STATE

APPROVAL PENDING, THE OPERATIO

OF LIPA FOR ITS PERFORMANCE OR

LACK THEREOF DURING THE STORM.

YOU GOT THE LIGHTS BACK ON FOR

MOST PEOPLE SIX TO TEN DAYS, I

THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT

YOU AND I HAVE SPOKEN SINCE THEN

AND YOU'VE COME UP WITH

MULTIBILLION-DOLLAR PLAN T

HARDEN YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE

FIRST THING PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK,

WHY DON'T YOU PUT IT ALL

UNDERGROUND.

IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE

>> WAY TOO EXPENSIVE

SOMETHING YOU CAN CONSIDER I

CERTAIN AREAS BUT YOU GO TO TH

END OF THE LINE, IT'S ABOUT $3

MILLION A MILE TO UNDERGROUN

LINES.

>> OVERHEAD IS HOW MUCH?

>> MUCH LESS IN THE TENS O

THOUSANDS WHEN YOU'RE JUST

ROLLING OUT THE WIRE ON TO SOM

OF THE EXISTING POLE LINES

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE YOU'LL

GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE

BUCK AND IN THE HARDENING WE'V

BEEN TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE T

PLAN TO UNDERGROUND ABOUT 60

MILES OF LINES BUT IT'S GOING TO

BE AT ABOUT $3 MILLION SO IT'S

ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE

GOING WITH POLICYMAKERS.

>> LINCOLN CENTER, COLONEL JOH

BOULE, RETIRED COLONEL AND

DISTRICT COMMANDER IN THE NE

YORK REGION FOR THE U.S. ARM

CORPS OF ENGINEERS

WHEN YOU SAW THE DAMAGE DONE B

THIS STORM TO THIS REGION, WAS

IT, WERE YOU SURPRISED BY IT O

WAS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU KNEW

IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF TIME

>> WELL, MIKE, I THINK IT WA

JUST A MATTER OF TIME.

YOU KNOW, YOU BROUGHT UP KATRINA

BEFORE

IT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION THA

KATRINA.

THAT WAS A PROTECTED CITY, A LOT

OF THE FLOODING CAME BECAUSE O

THE SYSTEM THERE FAILED,

UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF TH

INTENSITY OF KATRINA AND OTHER

REASONS.

HERE, YOU'VE GOT A VULNERABL

REGION

YOU'VE GOT THE GREAT CITY OF NEW

YORK

YOU'VE GOT THE COMMUNITIES I

LONG ISLAND AND NEW JERSEY

YOU DO HAVE SOME ENGINEERE

BEACHES.

YOU HAVE SOME COASTAL PROTECTION

SYSTEMS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO

WITHSTAND SMALLER STORMS

TROPICAL STORMS, BUT NOTHING'S

EVER BEEN BUILT TO WITHSTAND A

STORM WITH THE POWER OF SANDY.

SO REALLY, YOU TALKED ABOU

WHAT'S THE HEADLINE, AND TO ME

THE HEADLINE IS WHAT ARE W

GOING TO DO TO PREVENT THIS FROM

HAPPENING AGAIN?

AND SO WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GE

ON TO THE REBUILDING AND WHAT'

THAT REBUILDING GOING TO LOO

LIKE

WHAT ARE THE IDEAS, WHAT ARE THE

PLANNING THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO

DEVELOPING A SERIES OF SYSTEM OF

RISK REDUCTION INTERVENTIONS I

THIS REGION TO ENSURE THAT WHE

THE NEXT SANDY-LIKE STORM HITS

WE DON'T SUFFER THE SAME LEVEL

OF DAMAGES

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

>> IT IS A GREAT QUESTION AND IN

FACT WE WANT TO EXPAND UPON IT A

LITTLE BIT LATER IN TH

BROADCAST BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO

SET THAT UP NOW BY TALKING ABOUT

WHAT'S HAPPENED AND SPECIFICALLY

ABOUT THE HOMES.

WE'VE SEEN HOW MANY HOMES WERE

DESTROYED.

WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT REBUILDING

HOMES BECAUSE WE ASSUME MOST

PEOPLE ARE INDEED EAGER TO

REBUILD AND RETURN TO THEI

HOMES BUT IT'S REALLY NOT THAT

SIMPLE

WE HAVE TWO REPORTS FOR YOU,

RAFAEL P.ROMAN WILL TAKE US TO

THE ROCAWAYS IN A MOMENT

JIM O'GRADY MET STEVE GRIMALES A

FEW DAYS AFTER SANDY ALMOS

WASHED HIS HOME AND HIMSEL

AWAY

>> I WAS WALKING AROUND TH

NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH HAD THE

HIGHEST CONCENTRATION IN THE

CITY OF DEATHS FROM THE STORM,

WRECKAGE EVERYWHERE.

I ASKED STEVEN TO DESCRIBE WHA

HAPPENED THE NICE OF THE STORM

>> I SEEN THE WATER COMING

AROUND THE BLOCK

IT LOOKED LIKE WHITEWATER, YOU

KNOW

I GRABBED MY DOOR, LOCKED IT,

JUMPED OFF THE STEPS, GOT TO M

CAR, BY THE TIME I WAS AT MY

CAR, IT WAS, THE WATER WAS UP TO

THE BOTTOM OF THE CAR.

I JUMPED INTO THE CAR, STARTED

IT UP, THREW IT IN DRIVE AND

JUST TOOK OFF DOWN THE BLOCK

>> HE RETURNED THE NEXT MORNIN

TO FIND THAT THE WATER HAD

RUSHED THROUGH AT A HEIGHT O

EIGHT FEET LEAVING A LINE OF MUD

ACROSS HIS WALLS

THEN CAME MONTHS OF STAYIN

WHEREVER HE COULD.

>> WHERE MY CAR IS PARKED THAT'S

WHERE I SLEPT, MY CAR IN FRONT

OF THE HOUSE

>> HE ALSO STAYED WITH FRIENDS

AND IN A MOTEL PROVIDED BY FEM

BUT NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE A

PROGRAM OF FEMA PAID OUT

>> I TRIED TO GET MY HOUSE FIXED

AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.

>> HE STRIPPED THE HOUSE TO IT

STUDS AND REPLACED EVERYTHING,

ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, SHEETROCK,

FLOORS, AND HE BOUGHT NE

APPLIANCES

LOOKS GREAT, YOU HAVE RECESSED

CEILING LIGHTS

>> RECESSED LIGHTING

>> AND A CLASSY PAINT JOB.

>> YES, GALVESTON GRAY

>> IF HE WANTS TO KEEP HIS

INSURANCE AFFORDABLE HE'LL HAV

TO LIFT HIS HOUSE ABOVE FEMA'S

NEW HIGHER FLOOD LINE, BUT H

AND HIS NEIGHBORS DON'T YET KNOW

HOW HIGH TO GO OR HOW MUCH I

WILL COST.

>> NOBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> AND THERE'S ANOTHER OPTION.

HE COULD APPLY TO NEW YORK CIT

OR STATE FOR A BUY-OUT AND WAL

AWAY FROM HIS HOME

>> IF I DO KEEP THE HOUSE, AND I

DECIDE A COUPLE YEARS DOWN THE

LINE TO SELL IT, DO YOU THIN

THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE MORTGAGE

DOWN HERE?

I DON'T THINK SO

SO IT MIGHT BE BEST TO TAKE TH

BUY-OUT.

>> THE BUY-OUT PROGRAM, WHIC

WILL NOT BE QUICK OR SIMPLE,

STARTS NEXT MONTH AT THE

EARLIEST

THAT'S WHEN HE AND HIS NEIGHBORS

WILL HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THE

VALUE MORE, LIVING ON A BLOC

NEAR THE BEACH WHERE PEOPLE LOOK

OUT FOR EACH OTHER AND KIDS ROAM

FROM YARD TO YARD OR MOVING AWAY

FROM A NEW YORK CITY FLOOD ZONE.

I'M JIM O'GRADY IN OCEAN BREEZ

ON STATEN ISLAND

>> A FEW DAYS AFTER THE STORM, I

CAME HERE TO FAR ROCKAWAY QUEENS

AND MET BETTY LEON, SHE'S LIVE

HERE ON THIS QUIET STREET A FE

BLOCKS FROM THE BEACH FOR 25

YEARS.

THE NIGHT OF THE STORM WATER

DESTROYING EVERYTHING IN HER

BASEMENT

>> FRG I OWNED WAS DOWN HERE

>> TODAY HER BASEMENT IS

UNDERGOING A TRANSFORMATION.

>> EVERYTHING HERE IS NEW.

THE WHOLE BASEMENT

IT WAS GUTTED.

>> SHE RECEIVED A CHECK FO

$27,000 FROM HER FLOOD INSURANCE

BUT BOTH HER CLAIM TO HE

HOMEOWNERS' INSURANCE AND TO

FEMA WERE DENIED

SHE SAYS AFTER MANY CALLS AND

FEW FACE-TO-FACE MEETINGS FEMA

SENT HER A CHECK FOR A LITTL

OVER $1,000.

>> I HAVE NOT CASHED IT YE

BECAUSE I'M THINKING OF GIVING

IT RIGHT BACK TO THEM.

>> BETTY SAYS IF SHE ACCEPTS

FEMA'S MONEY SHE'LL HAVE T

COMMIT TO KEEPING FLOO

INSURANCE FOREVER.

SINCE HER PREMIUM HAS MORE THA

DOUBLED SINCE THE STORM SH

ISN'T SURE SHE'LL BE ABLE TO

AFFORD TO THE REQUIREMENT.

>> THIS FLOOD INSURANCE IS GOING

TO CAUSE MORE DEVASTATION IN THE

COMMUNITY THAN THE STORM DID

YOU HAVE TO GET FLOOD INSURANC

TO BUY A HOME AND IF YOU CURRENT

A WILL A MORTGAGE YOU HAVE T

GET FLOOD INSURANCE.

>> FLOOD ELEVATION MASS WILL

DETAIL THE LEVEL OF RISK I

DIFFERENT AREAS AND IN TURN TH

PRICE OF FLOOD SHOOSHS

>> IT WILL GO FROM $1,000 TO

$1,500 TO $8,000 TO $15,000.

IF YOU RAISE YOUR HOME TEN FEET,

IT'S STILL GOING TO BE $8,000 OR

$9,000

IT COSTS YOU $150,000 TO RAZE.

WHO HAS THAT MONEY, NO ONE

IF YOU DON'T RAZE YOUR HOUSE

YOUR INSURANCE IS $15,000, D

YOU WALK AWAY?

IT WILL DESTROY OUR COMMUNITIES.

>> IT'S GETTING ACCURATE

INFORMATION AND DECIDING HOW

BEST TO MOVE FORWARD WEIGHIN

THE OPTIONS AND RISK OF SEASID

LIVING

>> WE HAVE A ROCKAWAYS RESIDEN

WITH US AT THE MICROPHONE.

COULD YOU TELL US YOUR NAME,

PLEASE AND GIVE US YOU

QUESTION

>> MY NAME IS SOPHIA DEBRIGILI

I'M FROM BROAD CHANNEL IN TH

ROCKAWAYS AND I'M GOING TO

PREFACE MY QUESTION BY SAYING

UNDERSTAND ENTIRELY WHAT

JONATHAN WAS JUST SAYING

OUR COMMUNITIES ARE PUSHED I

DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS

WE STILL CAN'T LIVE IN OUR

HOUSE.

WE'RE FACING THOSE ACTUARIAL

INSURANCE RATES, THANK YOU

SENATOR TOOMEY, DEPARTMENT O

BUILDINGS, WHAT IS BEING DON

FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE LIKE

ME, WHAT IS BEING DONE TO KEEP

THE CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITIES

WE HAVE BLOCK GRANTS THA

PRECLUDE PEOPLE WHO QUALIFY FO

SBA LOONDS, FORCED TO TAKE O

MORE DEBT WHEN WE HAVE FLOOD

INSURANCE, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF

HAVING FLOOD INSURANCE WHEN WE

HAVE TO FIGHT THEM TOOTH AND

NAIL AND THEY DON'T WANT TO PA

AND THEN WE HAVE TO HIRE, YO

KNOW, PRIVATE OR PUBLI

ADJUSTERS, WE'RE FIGHTING FEMA

TRYING TO FIGURE HOUT HOW HIGH

TO RAZE OUR HOMES AND WHAT'S

PART OF THE FLOOD PLAIN.

WE HAVE TO PAY BACK PART OF

GRANT THEY GAVE US FOR CONTENT

OF OUR HOME THROUGH THE SB

LOAN

WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY INTEREST?

TAKE IT OFF OF THE TOP OF TH

LOAN

THESE ARE SOME BASIC QUESTIONS

>> SOME BASIC AND TROUBLIN

QUESTIONS.

>> COMMISSIONER CONSTABLE?

THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE

>> THIS IS OBVIOUSLY ON TH

OTHER SIDE OF THE HUDSON RIVER

BUT IT'S A PROBLEM THAT STRIKE

NEAR AND DEAR TO PEOPLE ON THE

ISLAND, IN THE CITY, THROUGHOU

NEW JERSEY

WHAT CAN YOU SAY TO HER?

>> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS, AN

I STARTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME O

THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO

BE ROLLING OUT SHORTLY, AND AS

HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE, NEW

JERSEY, NEW YORK, WE'RE GETTIN

DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE

TO OUR RESIDENTS FROM TH

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE O

THE DELAY THAT WAS ENCOUNTERED

THROUGH CONGRESS, THERE WAS

DELAY IN HOMEOWNERS GETTIN

DOLLARS, BUT THE GOOD NEWS I

NOW WE HAVE THE MONEY AND NO

WE'VE DESIGNED SOME PROGRAMS S

ONE THAT WE HAVE IN NEW JERSEY

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO

SIMILARLY SITUATED RESIDENT IS

$150,000 GRANT, FREE MONEY, THAT

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE TO

HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE HOMES THA

NEED TO BE ELEVATED, HOMES THA

NEED TO BE RECONSTRUCTED, HOME

THAT NEED TO BE REHABBED

LATER THIS MONTH IN A FEW WEEKS,

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN

APPLICATION ONLINE AND WE'RE

OBVIOUSLY ENCOURAGING ALL NE

JERSEYIANS TO APPLY THAT ARE I

NEED

IT'S GOING TO BE A $700 MILLIO

PROGRAM.

>> LET'S GO BACK TO LINCOL

CENTER

SHEENA WRIGHT, TALK TO ME.

THESE ARE HEARTBREAKING BRAE

STORIES WE'RE HEARING.

WHAT'S BEING DONE TO THE EXTEN

YOU CAN TELL US WHAT GOVERNMEN

IS DOING AND WHAT AS A RESUL

YOUR AGENCIES ARE TRYING TO DO

TO MAKE UP OR FILL THE GAP

TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT.

>> I THINK THE POINT THAT WA

JUST MADE IS THAT GOVERNMENT I

GETTING THE FUNDS NOW AND HA

DEVELOPED PROGRAMS TO GE

RESOURCES TO THOSE THAT NEED

THEM, BUT IT'S JUST COMING I

NOW, SO IN THE MEANTIME, THE

ENTIRE SOCIAL STRUCTURE, THE

NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS

WHETHER THEY'RE HOUSIN

ORGANIZATIONS, HABITAT FOR

HUMANITY, GOODWILL NEIGHBORS

OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE SERVIN

PEOPLE AT A VARIETY OF INCOM

LEVELS, HAVE BEEN DOING THE BEST

THAT THEY CAN AND STEPPING I

THE GAP.

WE DEPLOYED OVER 3,000

VOLUNTEERS ACROSS NEW YORK CITY.

WE'VE RAISED A FUND AND PUT OU

RESOURCES INTO OVER 20

NONPROFITS THAT ARE DIRECTLY

SERVING RESIDENTS ACROSS THE

CITY

UNITED WAY OF NEW YORK CITY,

NON-PROFITS HAVE STEPPED IN, I

TERMS OF RESOURCES AND

ASSISTANCE WHERE IT'S NEEDED BUT

IT'S NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH

>> I WANT TO TAKE UP THE ISSUE

OF GOVERNMENTS BUYING UP

PROPERTIES IN FLOOD-PRONE AREAS.

IT MAY BE GOOD FOR THE

HOMEOWNERS IN SOME CASES

THE QUESTION IS WHAT DOES TH

PUBLIC THINK ABOUT THAT IN

PATRICK MURRAY, DIRECTOR OF TH

MONMOUTH UNIVERSITY POLLIN

INSTITUTE IS HERE FOR US ONC

AGAIN.

YOU AND I HAVE SPOKEN A LOT OVER

THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS

I GUESS THE LATEST NUMBERS

YOU'VE HAD OUT IN TERMS OF THE

POLLING NUMBERS ON THIS AR

RATHER STRIKING IN SOM

RESPECTS

TELL ME ABOUT THAT

>> THIS IS A BONE OF CONTENTIO

FOR MOST PEOPLE.

THEY SUPPORT SPENDING STAT

MONEY, FEDERAL MONEY, LOCA

TAXPAYER MONEY FOR A WHOLE HOS

OF THINGS HELPING BUSINESSES AND

SO FORTH BUT WHEN IT COMES T

HOPING HOMEOWNERS THERE'S

DISPARITY, IT'S A DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN THOSE IN URBAN AREAS WHO

MAY HAVE UNEXPECTEDLY BEEN HIT

HELP THOSE PEOPLE.

WE ASK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO LIVE

ALONG COASTAL AREAS DOWN THE

SHORE AND SO FORTH, WE SHOULDN'T

BE BUYING THOSE PEOPLE OUT

SHOULDN'T BE USING STATE MONEY

TO DO THAT AND THE REASON BEIN

IS BECAUSE NOT BECAUSE THE RIC

OR NOT BECAUSE THESE ARE SECON

HOMES OR LUXURY HOMES, IT'

BECAUSE PEOPLE KNEW THE RISK

WHEN YOU BOUGHT A HOUSE ON THE

SHORE.

IF YOU'RE LIVING FOUR BLOCKS

FROM THE OCEAN YOU KNOW WHAT THE

RISK IS SO YOU SHOULD HAVE

ENOUGH INSURANCE TO TAKE CARE OF

IT YOURSELF.

>> IT WAS A SHARP DIVIDING LINE,

ALMOST EVEN SPLIT IN SOME CASES,

41/50.

>> WE ASKED PEOPLE ABOUT SUPPORT

FOR BUSINESSES AND REBUILDIN

BOARDWALKS AND INFRASTRUCTUR

AND URBAN AREAS, 70%, 80

SUPPORT.

WE GET TO HELPING PEOPLE WHO

LIVED ON THE SHORE IT DROPS DOWN

TO 40% AND SHORE HOMEOWNER

DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE

BOUGHT OUT EITHER.

>> INTERESTING

WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION IN TH

AUDIENCE

COULD YOU TELL US YOUR NAME,

WHERE YOU'RE FROM AND WHAT I

YOUR QUESTION, PLEASE.

>> I'M FROM OCEAN PORT, NE

JERSEY, AND MY QUESTION IS WIT

ALL THE REBUILDING AND FUNDS

AVAILABLE WE HAVE A WONDERFU

OPPORTUNITY TO REBUILD

RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THA

FOLLOW GREEN BUILDIN

GUIDELINES

HOW MUCH EMPHASIS WILL BE GIVE

TO REBUILDING SUSTAINABLY IN

REGARD TO THE RREM GRANT

PROGRAM?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

PETER REINHART DIRECTOR OF THE

KISLAK REAL ESTATE INSTITUTE A

MONMOUTH UNIVERSITY YOU WANT T

TAKE A CRACK AT THAT

>> WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BUILD

SMARTER MORE RESILIENTLY AND I

WAYS THAT WILL REDUCE THE RISK

OF HARM, SHOULD GOD FORBID

ANOTHER SUPERSTORM OCCUR

BUILDING GREENER OR STRONGER I

DEFINITELY THE WAY TO GO

THE STATE HAS A PROGRAM WITH

REGARD TO ENERGY APPLIANCE

WHERE THEY ACTUALLY WILL PROVIDE

MONEY TO BUY MOR

ENERGY-EFFICIENT APPLIANCES SO

IT'S DEFINITELY THE WAY TO GO,

PARTICULARLY IF YOU HAVE T

REBUILD FROM SCRATCH

>> WE ALSO HAVE BILL ULFELDER,

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NATURE

CONSERVANCY IN NEW YORK.

EVERYONE WANTS TO GO GREEN

NOBODY EXPECTED TO HAVE TO

ACCELERATE THE PROCESS BECAUSE

OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH

TALK TO HE ME ABOUT WHAT THE

GUEST SAID

>> THE LESSON OF SANDY NATUR

AND NATURAL DEFENSES ARE PART OF

THE SOLUTION

THE NATURE CONSERVANCY SERVED ON

THE RESILIENCY COMMISSION, HOW

DO WE PROTECT AND REBUILD, THE

THIRD WAS LET'S USE NATURE

NATURAL DEFENSES, DUNES, WET

LANED, OYSTER REEFS, COASTAL

FORESTS.

THERE WAS LITTLE AREAS O

DESTRUCTION IN CAPE MAY BECAUS

OF A PROJECT -

>> WITH THE ARMY CORPS

>> -- THE ARMY CORPS AND THE

STATE TO BUILD THE BEACH AND

WETLANDS AND THE IMPACTS WER

INCREDIBLY WIT GANDS

>> WE HAD LAUREN POSITIONED FO

THE WORST BUT WE WERE AMAZED AND

HAPPY TO SEE THE STORM SPARE

THEM

BUD GRIFFIS, PROFESSOR OF CIVI

ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION

POLYTECH KNICK INSTITUTE OF NE

YORK UNIVERSITY WOULD YOU LIKE

TO TAKE A CRACK AT THIS AS WELL?

>> IN MARCH WE HAD A SEMINAR T

LOOK AT PROTECTING NEW YORK FROM

STORM SURGES, BECAUSE WE WER

PREDICTING A MAJOR STORM HITTING

NEW YORK AND WE HAD A NUMBER O

STRUCTURAL SOLUTIONS

RECOMMENDED, A NUMBER OF THE

COMPANIES THAT ARE SPONSORIN

THIS TOWN HALL MEETING ACTUALL

PROVIDED CONCEPT DESIGNS FOR

THESE THINGS AND THERE WAS A

ENTIRE CONFERENCE ABOUT THAT

SO THERE CAN BE STRUCTURAL

SOLUTIONS TO PROTECT

PARTICULARLY DOWNTOWN MANHATTAN.

THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAS FOR

YEARS AND YEARS BEEN BUILDIN

ENGINEERED BEACHES AND DUNES

DUNES ACT NOTHING BUT AS A

REPLENISHMENT RESOURCE FOR THE

BEACHES, AND AS FAR AS USING

NATURAL FORCES TO PROTECT IN NEW

YORK AND THE SOUTH SHORE OF LONG

ISLAND, FOR INSTANCE, AND TH

JERSEY SHORE, IF WE HAD STARTE

AT 1650, IT MIGHT WORK

RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE

ANY MAJOR IMPACT

>> KIND OF DISCOURDISCOURAGING

CONSIDERING NO ONE INVENTED WA

BACK MACHINES YET.

IN A STORM FILLED WITH SURPRISES

ONE OF THE BIGGEST OCCURRED ON

THE ISLAND OF MANHATTAN.

NO ONE EXPECTED TO KNOCK OUT THE

SUBWAYS, KNOCK OUT THE LIGHT

AND FLOOD THE TUNNELS AN

ENDANGER SOME OF THE PRICEIEST

REAL ESTATE ON THE PLANET.

RICK CARR TAKES US INSIDE TH

INFRASTRUCTURE

>> LOWER MANHATTAN IS STIL

COMING TO TERMS WITH THE

REMINDER THAT THE STORM SENT

ASHORE, THAT SOME OF THE MOS

EXPENSIVE REAL ESTATE IN THE

WORLD IS VULNERABLE.

THE MTA, FOR EXAMPLE, LEARNE

ITS FOUR-YEAR-OLD HALF

BILLION-DOLLAR SUBWAY STATIO

COULDN'T SURVIVE THE FLOODIN

BUT ITS CENTURY OLD PREDECESSO

COULD.

WHEN AN EXPLOSION AT CON-ED'

STATION PLUNGED MANHATTAN INTO

DARKNESS THE RETAINING WALLS HAD

BEEN A COUPLE FEET TOO SHORT T

KEEP OUT THE SURGE

AT VERIZON HEADQUARTERS ON WES

STREET, ENGINEERS LEARNE

SALTWATER AND OLD TELEPHON

COPPER WIRES DON'T MIX WHEN FIVE

FEET OF WATER FLOODED THIS

BASEMENT CABLE VAULT

THE FLOODWATERS KNOCKED OUT 70

CABLES THAT CONNECT TH

BUILDINGS TO THOUSANDS OF HOME

AND OFFICES AROUND THE

NEIGHBORHOOD, AND KNOCKED OU

THE SERVICES THOSE CABLES CARRY.

>> VOICE SERVICES, HIGH SPEE

DATA SERVICES, MOVEMENT OF

INFORMATION, VIDEO SIGNALS

>> VERIZON'S CHRIS LEVENDES SAYS

THE TELECOM COMPANY GLEANED GOOD

NEWS FROM THE FLOOD, WHILE THE

STORM PLAYED HAVOC WITH THE OL

COPPER CABLES, IT HAD NO EFFEC

ON MODERN FIBER OPTIC LINES, S

VERIZON STEPPED UP ITS EFFORTS

TO REPLACE THE COPPER CABLE.

>> HAVING A FIBER OPTIC-BASE

MEDIUM TO DISTRIBUTE SERVICES IN

THIS AREA UNDERGROUND IS THE

BEST WAY TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH

FLOODING

>> NEW YORK CITY GREW UP WHERE

IT DID BECAUSE THE HUDSON AN

EAST RIVERS, NEW YORK BAY AN

THE ATLANTIC OCEAN ARE NEARBY SO

AS LONG AS THE CITY IS GOING T

HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP TO TH

WATERS THAT SURROUND IT, IT'

GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH

WHATEVER THOSE WATERS WASH

ASHORE

I'M RICK CARR IN LOWER

MANHATTAN.

>> SO APPARENTLY THERE WAS

SOMETHING OF A SILVER LINING I

THOSE COPPER WIRES

WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO KNOW

ABOUT STRENGTHENING OU

INFRASTRUCTURE

BRENT INGE SENT US A QUESTION,

HAVE OUR EXPERTS LEARNED

ANYTHING FROM SANDY AND WHAT

PRECAUTIONS HAVE BEE

IMPLEMENTED BEFORE THE NEX

STORM SEASON AND I MAY BE TH

FIRST TO BREAK THIS TO YOU THI

EVENING, HURRICANE SEASON BEGINS

IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS

BACK TO NEW YORK RIGHT NOW

RICHARD RAVITCH, YOU KNOW A LO

ABOUT REAL ESTATE AND COMMERCIAL

DOLE

IN MANHATTAN

WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED AND WHA

HAVE WE DONE

>> WE'VE LEARNED THE MOS

IMPORTANT THING AS I SAI

EARLIER IS TO MAKE SURE THAT W

HAVE THE ABILITY TO RESTOR

POWER OR TO PRETENT POWER FROM

BEING SHUT OFF AS A RESULT O

THE FLOODING

THIS MEANS ELEVATING A WHOLE

SERIES OF COMPLICATE

TRANSFORMERS AND SWITCH GEAR AND

EXISTING BUILDING AND EXISTING

STREET LOCATION, THE REGIONA

SUBWAYS CAME BACK RELATIVELY

QUICKLY, IT WAS BECAUSE TO

PRENDERGAST WHO RAN THE TRANSITY

AUTHORITY UNDERSTOOD YOU REMOV

FROM THE SUBWAY TUNNELS TH

TECHNOLOGICAL GEAR THAT WA

VULNERABLE TO THE CORROSION OF

SALTWATER AND THAT WAS REMOVED

BEFORE AND REINSTALLED A FEW

DAYS LATER WHICH IS WHY TH

SUBWAY SYSTEM CAME BACK INTO

SHAPE.

IT DEPENDS OF COURSE ON TH

LOCATION, ON THE NATURE OF THE

REAL ESTATE.

NONE OF THIS IS BEYOND OUR

CAPACITY TO ANALYZE AND THAT I

BEING DONE

IT'S BEING DONE IN PART BY THE

INDUSTRY ITSELF, THE EVENING

INNERS AND ARCHITECTS AN

CONTRACTORS ARE DEVELOPING THEIR

SET OF SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION

WHICH THEY'RE SHARING WITH THE

TASK FORCE THAT WAS SET UP I

WASHINGTON RUN BY SHAUN DONOVA

AS WELL AS THE SHARING O

INFORMATION ULTIMATELY WITH TH

GOVERNOR AND THE MAYOR OF TH

CITY AND I'M SURE COMPARABLE

PEOPLE ARE DOING THE SAME IN NEW

JERSEY

SO WE DO HAVE THE CAPACITY T

MITIGATE THE DAMAGE.

WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO

PREVENT FLOODING IN IT

ENTIRETY

I'M CONFIDENT THE GOVERNMENT

WILL HAVE IN PLACE THAT THEY

SHOULD HAVE HAD IN PLACE BEFOR

SANDY PARTICULARLY AS A RESULT

OF THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE HA

WITH IRENE, BUT THEY WILL HAVE

IN PLACE BUT THEY WILL HAVE

SYSTEM TO MITIGATE THE RESULTS

OF THIS KIND OF ZAST ERE

>> I UNDERSTAND REPORTS THEY

WERE EXPERIMENTING IN AN UNUSE

SUBWAY TUBE THE MTA WITH SOM

GIANT INFLATABLE PLUG THAT WOULD

FILL UP ONE OF THE TUBES AND

PREVENT WATER FROM GETTING I

AND DOING ALL THE DESTRUCTIO

THAT IT DID WHEN SANDY HIT LOWER

MANHATTAN.

RALPH LAROSSA ON THIS SUBJECT,

YOU WERE QUOTED AS SAYING AN

YOU SAID IT TO ME, YOU WER

SURPRISED THAT THE STORM SURGE

WAS LIKE IT WAS TO REALLY TO A

GREAT EXTENT DID MORE DAMAGE

THAN YOU COULD HAVE ANTICIPATE

IN OTHER WAY

>> WE NEED TO RAZE THE

INFRASTRUCTURE IN TH

SUBSTATIONS AND SWITCHIN

STATIONS AROUND NEWARK WAY BAY

JUST LIKE IMPACTING THE SOUT

SHORE OF LONG ISLAND THE STORM

SURGE CAME IN AND SAW LEVELS N

ONE WOULD SEE, RARE TO THE 1

AND 15 FEET CREST LEVELS

WE NEED TO RAZE THE SWITCHIN

SUBSTATIONS.

MOVING THEM ISN'T PRACTICAL AT

THIS POINT

>> TODAY THERE WAS A REPORT TH

NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC

ASSOCIATION THERE WAS A REPORT

ON THEIR FORECAST WHICH SAID

THEY WERE VERY, VERY ACCURATE,

GOOD FORECASTS, BUT THAT IT WA

CONFUSING TO A LOT OF TH

PEOPLE, THE MEDIA.

WE GET EASILY CONFUSED

SOMETIMES, BUT THAT IT WAS

CONFUSING TO THE MEDIA AND

OTHERS WHO HAVE TO RESPOND T

FORECASTS LIKE THAT.

WAS PSE&G CONFUSED BY TH

FORECAST

>> I WOULDN'T SAY WE WER

CONFUSED

THEY WERE TALKING THREE TO FIV

FEET OF STORM SURGE AND TH

TIDAL ON TOP OF THAT SO THER

WAS CONFUSION TO A DEGREE BU

THE AREAS THAT WERE FLOODED, W

COULD NOT HAVE PUT UP LARG

ENOUGH WALLS TO PROTECT IT

>> WOULD IT HAVE MATTERED?

IF YOU KNEW WHAT WAS COMING YO

COULDN'T HAVE DONE ANYTHING.

>> THERE WAS NO WAY IF WE HA

KNOWN A WEEK IN ADVANCE.

>> BACK TO BUD GRIFFIS

PROFESSOR OF CIVIL ENGINEERING

AND CONSTRUCTION, POLYTECHNI

INSTITUTE OF NYU, SOME OF THES

THINGS JUST CAN'T BE FIXED

OVERNIGHT.

>> WHEN YOU'RE FACING THE KIND

OF COSTS TO MAKE A STRUCTURA

PROTECTION BARRIER FOR NEW YOR

CITY, YOU CAN AFFORD TO DO SOM

OTHER THINGS THAT MAY NOT BE

QUITE SO COSTLY, AND OUR

INFRASTRUCTURE AGENCIES HAVE

BEEN

CON-ED AFTER THE 1992 NOR'EASTER

HAS REQUIRED THAT TH

TRANSFORMERS AND NETWORK

EQUIPMENT BE SUBMERSIBLE S

RATHER THAN RAZE THEM, THEY MAKE

IT SO THEY CAN BE FLOODED.

OUR AGENCIES ARE DOING VER

WELL

THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY IS LOOKING

AT BUILDING A THREE-SIDED BOX AT

ALL SUBWAY ENTRANCES THAT CA

HAVE A FOURTH SIDE SLIPPED I

AND IN THE CASE OF A MAJOR

DISASTER, LOOKING AT BUBBLES T

PUT OVER THE GRATING SO THES

THINGS ARE ALL BEING DONE AND

THINK PROBABLY OUR SOLUTION IS

GOING TO BE REALLY LET'S FLOOD

PROOF THESE.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT DOING THA

AT MY HOUSE AT LONG ISLAND SEE

IF I CAN'T MAKE IT FLOOD PROOF

NEXT TIME WE HAVE ANOTHE

500-YEAR STORM AND MAYBE THI

YEAR -- I'M THINKING ABOUT

LEAVING THE GARAGE DOOR OPEN

>> YOU MIGHT NOT BE ALONE.

>> JOHN CAMERON, CHAIR OF TH

LONG ISLAND REGIONAL PLANNIN

COUNCIL.

THE SOUTH SHORE HAS BEEN

FLOODING FOR YEARS IN STORMS FAR

LESS SEVERE THAN SANDY

YOU TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE

INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES BEFORE AND

THE SEWAGE TREATMENT AREAS

YOU HAVE PSE&G TO TAKE OVER FO

LIPA SO YOU COULD HAVE

INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGES BUT YOU

HAVE A DOLLAR FIGURE IN YOUR

MIND WHAT IT WOULD COST TO D

THAT AND WHERE THAT MONEY WOUL

COME FROM?

>> FRANKLY, WITH ALL THE HYP

AND PUBLICITY OVER THE $60

BILLION, IT SOUNDS LIKE

TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY WHICH

IT REALLY IS BUT IF YOU TALK T

THE ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION

COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF MUNICIPAL

OFFICIALS IT'S NOT ENOUGH MONE

TO GO AROUND TO HARDEN OUR

INFRASTRUCTURE TO PROTEC

AGAINST FUTURE EVENTS SUCH A

SUPERSTORM SANDY

WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE AND LOOK

TO UTILIZE OUR MONEY COS

EFFECTIVELY.

WE CAN'T ELEVATE ALL OUR CREDI

CAT INFRASTRUCTURE

THAT WHICH WE CAN'T WE HAVE TO

HARDEN IN MORE COST-EFFECTIV

WAYS

THE DOLLARS ARE PHENOMENAL AND

WE'RE REALLY NOT GOING TO GET IN

THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE SO WE NEE

TO PRIORITIZE IN THE MOS

CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE

ELECTRIC GRID AND WASTE WATE

SYSTEMS THAT WHICH CAN IMPAC

THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND OU

QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN TH

METROPOLITAN AREA.

>> STAYING IN LINCOLN CENTER

COLONEL BOULE, FROM YOUR ARM

CORPS EXPERIENCE AND ADVISOR

CAPACITY WITH PARSON

BRINCKERHOFF, YOU LOOK AT TH

500 STORMS SEEMINGLY COMIN

EVERY YEAR, HOW CAN YOU PLAN

ADVISE, AND COUNSEL FOR THAT

WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT

>> FIRST WE HAVE TO REALIZE IT'S

THE NEW REALITY.

CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL

IT'S MORE THAN SEA LEVEL RIS

THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THE

NEXT HUNDRED YEARS, IT'S GREATER

STORM INTENSITIES, IT'S GREATE

STORM FREQUENCIES AND WE'VE GO

TO STOP IGNORING IT AND STAR

PLANNING AND BUILDING TO REDUC

THE RISK TO THE PUBLIC

WE TALKED ABOUT LONG ISLAND AN

PROJECTS AND THERE'S A LOT O

ACTIVITY IN NEW JERSEY, TH

CORPS IS PUTTING LOTS OF SAND ON

THE BEACHES NOW TO SORT OF

DESIGN SOME OF THE BEACHES THERE

BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED

EARLIER, HURRICANE SEASON IS

UPON US AGAIN SO I THINK

AGENCIES LIKE THE CORPS AND NE

JERSEY AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE

DOING THE SAME THING BY THE WA

ON THE ROCKAWAYS, DOING IT O

CONEY ISLAND, THE CORPS IS GOING

TO FINISH A STUDY ON STATE

ISLAND, AND THEN HOPEFULLY START

BUILDING RISK REDUCTIO

INTERVENTION STRATEGIES THERE ON

THE SOUTH SHORE.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE ACTION THAT'

CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE THA

CONSISTS OF MORE INTENSE STORM

THAT HAPPEN MORE FREQUENTLY AN

SO REALLY THAT STARTS WITH

DEVELOPING A PLAN AND YOU KNOW

WE'RE SEEING THAT.

WE'RE SEEING THAT IN NEW YOR

CITY, AND HATS OFF TO TH

BLOOMBERG ADMINISTRATION

HE'S FORMED HIS OWN SPECIA

INITIATIVE OR REBUILDING AND

RESILIECY AND WHEN THE MAYOR

RELEASES HIS PLAN YOU'LL SEE

THOUGHTFUL ANALYSIS THAT GOE

INTO GOOD IDEAS FO

CONSIDERATION TO HELP LOWER TH

RISK TO THE PUBLIC

SO IT'S, I'M NOT GOING TO STEA

THE MAYOR'S THUNDER, THAT'S FO

SURE, BUT IT'S PLANNING.

WE HAVE A BLANK SHEET OF PAPER

NOW.

LET'S GET DOWN AND START WIT

SOME REAL IDEAS THAT ARE WEL

THOUGHT OUT AND THEN LET'S GET

INTO IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE

AND AT THE SAME TIME, LET'

BUILD UP OUR DEFENSES, AS

SUGGESTED, THAT IS HAPPENING NOW

IN PLACES LIKE LONG ISLAND AND

NEW JERSEY AND HOPEFULLY SHORTLY

IN STATEN ISLAND IN THE NEXT

COUPLE OF YEARS UNTIL WE CAN GET

THESE PLANS AUTHORIZED AND GET

THE ADDITIONAL FEDERAL FUNDING

YES, IT IS GOING TO BE NEW

MONEY, LET'S GET TO WORK

>> ALL RIGHT, COLONEL, THANK YOU

VERY MUCH.

WE'LL PAUSE AND GO TO A QUESTION

WE RECORDED A BIT EARLIER IN NEW

YORK

WATCH THIS

>> I'M GUSTAVO SUAREZ I LIVE I

THE FINANCIAL DISTRICT

DISPLACED BY HURRICANE SANDY AND

I'M JUST WONDERING WHEN IS THE

NEXT ONE COMING.

>> VIVIEN GORNITZ, SPECIAL

RESEARCH SCIENTIST, COLUMBIA

UNIVERSITY, YOU HAVE THE HONOR

OF TELLING US WHEN THE NEXT ON

IS COMING.

>> I CAN'T GIVE A DATE BUT I CAN

SAY THERE PROBABLY WILL SUCH A

STORM IN THE SEARCH AND WITH

RISING SEA LEVELS, EVEN A STOR

OF A LESSER MAGNITUDE WOUL

CREATE A FLOOD LEVEL EQUIVALEN

TO THAT OF SANDY

SO EVEN THOUGH SANDY WAS A VER

RARE AND FREAK EVENT, THE TYPE

OF DAMAGE CAUSED BY SUCH STORM

IS LIKELY TO INCREASE BECAUSE OF

CLIMATE CHANGE

>> YOU'VE DONE WORK SPECIFICALLY

AIMED CONSIDERING WHAT COULD

HAPPEN IN NEW YORK CITY.

>> WELL THAT'S TRUE, AS PART O

THE TEAM THAT WAS WORKING FO

THE CITY, IN FACT WE ARE

PREPARING THE REPORT RIGHT NOW

FOR THE CITY, THE NEW YORK CIT

PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND THAT

REPORT SHOULD BE OUT WITHIN

WEEK OR TWO AND WILL B

AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, IT WILL

BE ONLINE.

>> BILL ULFELDER BACK TO YOU O

THIS ISSUE

I ASSUME 30 YEARS AGO TH

CONSERVANCY HAD A CERTAIN AGENDA

TO THINK ABOUT

WAS THIS ONE OF THEM

>> THE NATURE CONSERVANCY,

RECOGNIZING THAT THE WORLD I

INCREASINGLY URBANIZING WA

FOCUSING ON NEW YORK CITY AN

RIGHT NOW NEW YORK AND THE NEW

YORK REGION IS ONE OF THE FIVE

MOST VULNERABLE METRO AREAS IN

THE UNITED STATES TO NATURAL

DISASTERS LIKE HURRICANE SANDY

AND SO WE'VE BECOME VERY FOCUSED

ON WHAT'S THE ROLE OF SCIENC

AND WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIK

THIS COMING, WE HAVE A TOO

CALLED COASTAL RESILIENC

ONLINE, COASTALRESILIENCE.ORG,

MODEL DIFFERENT STORMS AND TIDAL

CIRCUMSTANCES AND HOW DO YOU

PLAN FOR THAT BETTER

THIS POINT IS THERE'S NO EAS

WAY OUT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'R

HEARING FROM EVERYBODY

THERE ARE GOING TO BE HARD

INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT SOLUTIONS

THERE ARE GOING TO BE CREATIVE

THINGS LIKE BALLOONS IN SUBWAY

TUNNELS BUT THERE ARE ALSO GOING

TO BE THINGS LIKE DUNES AN

MARSHES AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT A

FULL SUITE OF POSSIBILITIES AN

HAVE THE RIGHT MIX ENIT'S ABOU

HOW DO WE FIND THAT MIX AND MAKE

SURE NATURE PLAYS THE ROLE

>> MAYOR DOHERTY I HEAR NEED TO,

HAVE TO, SHOULD.

YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY HIT HAR

AND HURRICANE SEASON STARTING IN

A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING

>> ONE OF THE THE THINGS THE

ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS IS DOING

IS BEACH REPLENISHMENT FOR OUR

COMMUNITY AND OTHER COMMUNITIE

AT THE JERSEY SHORE.

ONE OF THE FRUSTRATING THING

FOR ME AND OTHER RESIDENTS I

THE TOWN WE WERE ON A LIST FOR

BEACH REPLENISHMENT FROM THE

ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS PRIOR TO

HURRICANE SANDY, BUT IT WA

NEVER FUNDED BY CONGRESS AND THE

QUESTION I ASK, WHAT WE HAVE T

ASK IS, HAD THAT BEACH

REPLENISHMENT BEEN DONE IN TIM

FOR SANDY, WOULD IT HAVE

MITIGATED SOME OF THE HAZARD AND

THE DAMAGE THAT OUR TOWN

SUFFERED AND THE REST OF THE

JERSEY SHORE AS WELL

>> JOHN BOULE BACK AT LINCOL

CENTER YOU WANT TO TAKE A CRAC

AT THIS ONE?

>> SURE, I'D BE HAPPY TO, MIKE

IT'S A GREAT QUESTION THAT THE

MAYOR HAS, AND THE REALITY IS,

THERE JUST HASN'T BEEN THE

SUPPORT IN CONGRESS FOR BEAC

REPLENISHMENT OR BEACH

RESTORATION PROJECTS BECAUSE THE

PUBLIC THINKS THESE THINGS ARE

RECREATIONAL PROJECTS BUT TH

REALITY THAT BEACHES AND DUNES

AND WETLANDS, THEY PROVIDE STORM

PROTECTION, AND I'M HOPING THA

SANDY WILL, YOU KNOW, SENSITIZ

THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTANDING THAT

THESE ENGINEERED BEACHES AND

THESE DUNES AND THESE NATURA

RESILIENCE TYPE FEATURES ARE

GOOD AND THE RECREATIONA

BENEFITS ARE ANCILLARY

THEY'RE AUXILIARY.

WHAT THESE ENGINEERED PROJECTS

ARE DESIGNED TO DO IS PROTEC

INFRASTRUCTURE, TO PROTECT

FACILITIES, TO KEEP PEOPLE'S

HOUSES SAFER OR REDUCE THE RIS

OF DAMAGE TO THOSE THAT AR

LIVING NEAR THE COAST.

SO THERE ARE LOTS OF PROJECT

GOING ON NOW AND I THINK I

MAKES GOOD SENSE IN THOS

COMMUNITIES THAT HAD THESE KIN

OF PROJECTS IN FRONT OF THEM

WOULD CERTAINLY AGREE THAT W

NEED MORE OF THEM.

>> ON THAT NOTE I WANT TO GO

BACK TO MAYOR ZIMMER NOW

RIGHT AFTER THE STORM HIT YO

WERE TALKING SEA WALLS, WANTED

SEA WALLS.

WHERE DOES THAT STAND RIGHT NOW,

BUT I ALSO WANT TO KNOW ABOU

THE NEW PROPOSAL YOU HAVE TO

SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON A

NEW PUMP TO PUMP OUT YOUR TOWN

WHEN THE WATER GETS TOO HIGH

>> BASICALLY WHAT I DID AFTE

THE STORM, BROUGHT IN A LOT OF

STAKEHOLDERS AND STEVENS

INSTITUTE WAS PART OF THAT AND

HAD A DISCUSSION WHERE SHOULD WE

GO, WHAT SHOULD WE LOOK AT AND

WE PUT TOGETHER WHAT WE BELIEV

TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND

TRYING TO COMBINE ENGINEERIN

SOLUTIONS AND GREEN SOLUTIONS AS

WELL SO THE PUMPS ARE SOMETHIN

THAT WE ABSOLUTELY NEED AS THA

EMERGENCY MEASURE.

WE HAVE ONE PUMP AND IT'S MADE A

HUGE DIFFERENCE.

AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE I DI

YESTERDAY, BUSINESS OWNER FOUR

TO FIVE TIMES A YEAR WAS FLOODED

OUT, AFTER THE PUMP WA

INSTALLED SHE WAS NEVER FLOODE

AGAIN EXCEPT FOR OF COURSE SANDY

BUT IT REALLY HAS MADE A

DIFFERENCE

IN THE MEANTIME WE ARE TRYIN

TO, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS O

BUYING LAND ON THE WESTERN SID

OF THE CITY WHERE WE TOTALLY

FLOODED, WE WANT TO BUILD

POSSIBLY LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY

OF DETENTION BASINS UNDERNEATH

AND ALSO LOOKING AT TH

POSSIBILITY OF TAPPING INTO TH

NATURAL TOPPING AFEE OF HOBOKEN.

THE WATER CAME IN ON THE SOUTH

PROTECT THE ENTIRE CITY WE BUT

PUTTING THE FLOOD BREAKS, WALLS,

BUILDING IT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT

WE COULD PROTECT THE ENTIR

CITY, PROTECT THE CHARACTER OF

THE CITY

IN AN URBAN AREA WE CAN'T LIFT

UP OUR HOMES ON PILINGS SO

THERE'S TWO FULL REASONS THA

I'M INTERESTED IN THE WALLS.

ONE IS TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS,

PROTECT OUR BUSINESSES BUT ALS

TO PROTECT US FROM THE NATIONA

FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM, IF WE

CAN DEMONSTRATE TO THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT WE REALLY ARE

PROTECTING OUR CITY, THEN WE

WILL GET OUT OF THE NATIONAL

FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM.

>> MAYOR ZIMMER WE HAVE TO PAUSE

BECAUSE IT'S BEEN AN

EXTRAORDINARY HOUR THAT'S PASSED

ALREADY.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE STORM AN

TRYING TO OVERCOME THE DAMAGES

WHAT HAS WORKED, NOT WORKED.

THERE'S SO MUCH MORE TO CONSIDER

OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT HOUR

OR SO AND SO MUCH MORE T

CONSIDER AS WE LOOK FOR SOCIAL

POLICIES, GOVERNMENT POLICIE

AND WAYS TO CONSIDER EXACTLY

WHAT THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION IS OF

WHAT'S BEEN DONE AND OF COURSE

WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THERE IS A LOT OF TALK THAT'

BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME,

IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS ABOUT

WHAT THERE IS, DIFFERENT

INSTITUTIONS ARE CAPABLE O

DOING AND AS WE'VE ESTABLISHED

OVER THE COURSE OF THIS LAST

HOUR WE'VE SEEN HOW THE CITIZENS

OF THIS REGION CAN RISE TO THE

OCCASION AND DO AN EXTRAORDINARY

JOB.

AS WE ESTABLISHED AT THE

BEGINNING AS WELL, THERE'S A LOT

OF SUFFERING THAT'S STILL GOIN

ON AND IT'S GOING ON IN NE

JERSEY AND IT'S GOING ON INAGE

ALONG THE SHORE AND THE COASTA

AREA OF LONG ISLAND AND TH

HILLS AND HIGHLANDS OF NEW

JERSEY AS WELL AND FOR THE

PEOPLE IN ROCKAWAYS AS WELL AN

LONG BEACH AND ALL THROUGHOU

THE AREA, THIS IS A SITUATIO

THAT CERTAINLY IS, CANNOT BE

MEASURED IN DOLLARS AND CENT

BUT IN INSTITUTIONAL REACTIONS

TO WHAT HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED AS

WELL

WE ARE VERY GLAD YOU COULD JOI

US FOR THE FIRST HOUR OF WHA

HAS BEEN I THINK AN INTERESTIN

REVELATION ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENED

TO OUR AREA, WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE

CAPABLE OF DOING AND WHAT WE

HAVE TO DO NEXT AS A COMMUNITY

>> OCTOBER 29th, 2012, HURRICANE

SANDY SLOWED DOWN, TURNED TOWARD

THE SHORE AND STRUCK

>> OH MY GOD

>> WITHIN HOURS, NO POWER FO

TENS OF MILLIONS

>> EVERYBODY IS WAITING FO

ELECTRICITY.

WE AIN'T GOT TO LIGHTS

>> SEASIDE HEIGHTS IS COMPLETELY

FLOODED.

>> HOMES AND BUSINESSES GONE

>> YOU CAN'T APPRECIATE THIS

UNTIL YOU'RE ON THE GROUND

>> MASSIVE FIRES, TRANSPORTATION

HALTED, HOSPITALS EVACUATED.

THE SHORELINE WASHED AWAY.

THAT WAS SUPERSTORM SANDY.

>> TONIGHT FROM NEW YORK AND NEW

JERSEY PUBLIC TELEVISION

STATIONS 13, WLIW AND NJ TV,

WHYY TV, PHILADELPHIA, WNCY AN

NEW JERSEY PUBLIC RADIO, THE

STAR LEDGER AND NJ.COM, NY NEW

COMMONS AND THE "NEW YORK TIMES"

THIS PROGRAM IS MADE POSSIBLE BY

THE NEW JERSEY RECOVERY FUND A

THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF NE

JERSEY, THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR

ASSOCIATION OF NEW YORK, NOERK

BUILDING CONGRESS AND NEW YORK

BUILDING FOUNDATION, BERNARD AND

IRENE SCHWARTZ NEW JERSE

MANUFACTURERS, PARSONS

BRINCKERHOFF, TISHMAN AN AECOM

COMPANY, STV AND THE AMERICA

COUNCIL OF ENGINEERING COMPANIES

OF NEW YORK.

AND NOW LIVE FROM MONMOUTH

UNIVERSITY, HERE IS MIKE

SCHNEIDER.

>> ALL RIGHT, WE DO WELCOME YO

BACK TO THE SECOND HOUR OF OUR

LIVE TOWN HALL

OUR GUESTS AT THE POLL ACTHEATER

AND TISCH, NEW YORK AT THE

LINCOLN CENTER IN NEW YORK, WE

DIDN'T AND WHAT'S NEXT

ONE OF THE GREAT CHALLENGES IS

CONVINCING A LOT OF PEOPLE A

RECOVERY IS WELL UNDER WAY

IN A MOMENT WE'LL TAKE YOU T

LONG BEACH, LONG ISLAND WHER

JIM PAYMAR WILL SHOW YOU THE

BOARDWALK THAT'S BEING REBUILT

THAT WASHED AWAY

GETTING BEACHGOERS TO SIGN O

FOR THE SUMMER SEASON IS EASIE

SAID THAN DONE AS WE HEAR FROM

BRIAN DONAHUE OF "THE STAR

LEDGER."

>> ANY OTHER YEAR THIS WOULD

HAVE BEEN BOOKED BY JANUARY.

THIS YEAR NO ONE HAS TAKEN

REALTOR JEFFREY CHILDERS SAY

BLAME HURRICANE SANDY.

>> WE HAVE AVAILABLE HOMES THA

ARE UNHARMED, FOR INSTANCE THI

ONE WE'RE IN NOW BUT WE'RE NOT

GETTING THE DEMAND OF PEOPLE

COMING DOWN AND WANTING TO RENT.

>> Reporter: THE HOUSE WHICH WAS

NOT DAMAGED AT ALL IN THE STOR

IS TYPICAL OF A SUMMER RENTA

MARKET STILL FLOUNDERING IN TH

WAKE OF THE HURRICANE, EVE

AREAS THAT SAW LITTLE OR N

DAMAGE ARE BEING SHUNNED B

TOURISTS WARY OF SPENDING TIME

AT THE SHORE THIS SUMMER

SANDY DID NOT TREAT ALL TOWN

EQUALLY.

IN LAVOLETTE, THE BOARDWALK IS

REOPENED AND SIGNS THE SUMME

MIGHT BE ALMOST NORMAL AND I

MIDWAY BEACH IN SOUTH SEASID

PARK THE ROSES OF BUNGALOWS SI

UNTOUCHED.

LEASE SIGNINGS OFF 30% TO 40

FROM A TYPICAL YEAR.

>> USUALLY WE GET A SPIKE FROM

PEOPLE THAT SIGN LEASES, CAL

AHEAD.

WE ARE ANTICIPATING HOPEFULL

THAT WILL HAPPEN IN JUNE ONCE

LOT OF THE BOARDWALK I

COMPLETED AND PEOPLE ARE OUT O

SCHOOL, TO COME AND SEE THAT

IT'S DONE.

>> FOR THOSE WHO COME THIS

SUMMER THERE'S A CHANCE THEY MAY

HAVE TO PUT UP WITH SOME

INCONVENIENCES BUT IF THEY'R

WILLING TO GAMBLE AND CHOOSE THE

RIGHT SPOT THERE COULD BE TH

PAYOFF OF A GREAT JERSEY SHORE

SUMMER, GREAT BEACHES AND FA

FEWER CROWDS THAN USUAL.

IN SOUTH SEASIDE PARK, I'M BRIAN

DONAHUE.

>> THE CITY OF LONG BEACH TOOK A

DIRECT HIT FROM SANDY, NOT ONL

FROM THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO THE

SOUTH BUT FROM THE BAY TO TH

NORTH.

THE DAMAGES WERE ASTRONOMICA

AND IT WILL BE MANY YEARS BEFORE

THE CITY FULLY RECOVERS.

IT WAS AS WICKED A STORM A

ANYONE IN LONG BEACH CAN

REMEMBER

WHEN IT WAS OVER, SAND

DEVASTATED THE CITY OF LON

BEACH CAUSING OVER $200 MILLIO

OF DAMAGE TO INFRASTRUCTUR

ALONE AND AFFECTING IN SOME WA

NEARLY ALL OF ITS 9,500 HOLES.

>> THE WATERS RUSHING THROUG

THE DOORWAYS

>> SUZANNE LOST THE FIRST FLOO

OF HER HOME.

SIX MONTHS LATER SHE'S LIVIN

OUT OF SUITCASES MOSTLY IN FEM

SUBSIDIZED HOTELS.

SHE ESTIMATES IT WILL COST

$350,000 TO REBUILD.

>> WE WERE UNDERINSURED SO W

WILL NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY T

REPLACE EVERYTHING THAT WE LOST.

>> SUZANNE'S JUST ONE OF 900

HOMES SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED.

SO FAR, HALF THOSE HOMEOWNER

ARE RAZING THEIR HOMES ANOTHER

LEVEL TO PROTECT THEM FROM THE

NEXT BIG STORM AND SECURE LOWE

FLOOD INSURANCE RATES.

>> ALL THE UTILITIES THREE FOO

ABOVE THE BASE ELEVATION

ANYTHING THAT COULD GET DAMAGE

IS LIFTED.

>> TO FURTHER PROTECT TH

NEIGHBORHOODS A FEDERALLY FUNDED

$150 MILLION PROJECT SOON TO

BEGIN TO BUILD 16-FOOT-HIG

DUNES ALONG THE LENGTH OF TH

LONG BEACH SHORELINE

ALL THAT REMAINS OF THE FAMOUS

LONG BEACH BOARDWALK ARE

CONCRETE FOUNDATIONS BUILT MOR

THAN A CENTURY AGO

THE 2.2 MILE LONG BOARDWALK IS

BEING REBUILT.

THE $44 MILLION WILL B

COMPLETED BY NOVEMBER WITH SOM

SECTIONS OPEN BY MEMORIAL DAY.

>> THIS FOREVERMORE WILL B

LOOKED AT AS THE SUMMER WHEN THE

BOARDWALK STRANGE UP BEFORE OU

VERY EYES.

>> IT WILL LIKELY BE YEARS

BEFORE THE CITY BY THE SEA

TOTALLY RECOVERS FROM TH

RAVAGES OF SANDY BUT PEOPLE AR

OPTIMISTIC

LONG BEACHERS HAVE A SAYIN

ABOUT THE REVIVAL, UNTIL THE

LAST PERSON COMES HOME

IN LONG BEACH, I'M JIM PAYMA

REPORTING.

>> BACK ONCE AGAIN WE HAVE A

QUESTION ABOUT THE SHORE, COUL

YOU TELL US YOUR NAME, PLEASE,

AND YOUR QUESTION IF YOU WOULD

>> MY NAME IS SHEILA HATAMI, I'M

AN ATTORNEY LIVING AND WORKING

IN MONMOUTH COUNTY

FIRST, IS THERE PROJECTED TO B

A RETURN TO COMMERCIAL VERSU

RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ALON

THE JERSEY SHORE AND SECOND HAVE

COMMERCIAL AND BUSINESS ENTITIES

BEEN MORE OR LESS SUCCESSFUL

THAN HOMEOWNERS IN RECOVERIN

FROM THE DAMAGE OVERALL.

WHILE THERE WAS DEFINITELY A LOT

OF DAMAGE THE GOOD NEWS IS A LOT

OF BUSINESSES HAVE REBUILT,

LOT OF BUSINESSES WEREN'

DAMAGED AND WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE

AND GET FOLKS THERE.

I MENTIONED BEFORE BRIEFLY THA

FOR HOMEOWNERS THERE'S GOING T

BE AN APPLICATION PROCESS THAT

WILL START UP IN THE NEXT FE

WEEKS FOR BUSINESSES THAT'S BEEN

OPENED AND STARTED UP, RUN B

THE NEW JERSEY ECONOMI

DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.

>> NICOLE GELINAS WE HAVEN'T

HEARD FROM YOU

LOT OF PEOPLE QUESTIONED

GOVERNMENT'S ROLE.

JOE NOCERA WAS CRITICAL OF THE

ROLE BUT YOU HAVE QUESTION

ABOUT GOVERNMENT'S

APPROPRIATENESS OF BEING

INTERJECTED INTO FINDING

SOLUTIONS HERE

>> IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE ARE

THERE ARE TWO HEADLINES HERE

THE FIRST IS THAT DISASTER

REVEAL

THEY DON'T TRANSFORM

GOVERNMENT INSTITUTIONS THAT

WERE DOING WELL BEFORE SANDY

CONTINUE TO DO WELL AFTER SANDY.

ONE GOOD EXAMPLE IS TH

METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATIO

AUTHORITY WHICH RUNS NEW YOR

CITY SUBWAYS, BUSES, AS WELL A

THE COMMUTER RAILS

THEY DID VERY WELL AFTER THE

STORM IN GETTING EMERGENCY BUS

SERVICE UP AND GETTING THE

SUBWAY SERVICE UP WITHIN A FEW

DAYS

THAT WAS A NOT A SURPRISE.

THEY HAVE UNDER MUCH BETTE

MANAGEMENT THAN THEY WERE FO

YEARS.

ON THE OTHER SIDE YOU HAVE THE

LONG ISLAND POWER AUTHORITY,

QUASI-GOVERNMENT INSTITUTION HAS

BEEN DOING POORLY ON A

DAY-TO-DAY BASIS FOR YEARS AND

YEARS, REALLY DECADES SINC

GOVERNOR CUOMO'S FATHER WAS IN

OFFICE SO IT WAS NOT A SURPRIS

THEY FELL DOWN DURING AND AFTE

SANDY.

THESE ARE PLACES WHERE THE

GOVERNMENT HAS TO HAVE A ROLE.

OCCUPY SANDY CANNOT GO INTO TH

SUBWAYS AND GET THE SUBWAYS UP

AND RUNNING.

ON THE OTHER HAND, OCCUPY SAND

CAN HELP THE PERSON PULL THE

DRYWALL OUT OF THEIR HOME AN

REBUILD AND REPENT

>> YOU MENTIONED LIPA WA

NOTHING MORE THAN A HOLDIN

COMPANY IF THE GOVERNOR HAS HI

WAY AND PSE&E WILL TAKE OVER

OPERATIONS

>> THAT TAKES ME TO THE HEADLINE

IN THE LONG-TERM, WHO PAYS, AN

WHAT DO THEY PAY FOR

THERE IS A FALSE OBSESSION WIT

FEDERAL MONEY AND THE IDEA THA

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOIN

TO SOMEHOW PAY FOR ALL OF THIS

AND THE UTILITY ARENA IS A GOO

EXAMPLE.

GOVERNOR CUOMO ON LONG ISLAN

SAID HE WANTS TO PUT $2 BILLIO

TOWARD BETTER ELECTRICAL

INFRASTRUCTURE

THE REALITY THOUGH IS THAT THESE

PROJECTS SORE EXPENSIVE AND DONE

OVER SO MANY YEARS AND DECADES

IF PEOPLE WANT A MORE RELIABLE

POWER GRID THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE

TO PAY FOR IT.

THE UTILITY HAS TO INVEST IN

MORE SUBSTATIONS, UNDERGROUN

LINES WHERE THERE'S ENOUGH

POPULATION DENSITY TO JUSTIF

THE COST AND PEOPLE WILL PAY FOR

THAT ON THEIR POWER BILLS, AS WE

SHOULD

ELECTRICITY CUSTOMERS PAY FO

THE SERVICES THEY GET.

THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THAT

EQUATION

MASS TRANSIT ON THE OTHER HAND

IS ALWAYS A SUBSIDIZED,

BUSINESS SUBSIDIZED BY THE

GOVERNMENT, THIS DOESN'T CHANG

THAT EQUATION EITHER

IT'S IN THE AREA OF REBUILDING

INDIVIDUAL HOMES AS WELL AS TH

FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM, WHERE

THERE'S A REAL PROBLEM WITH TH

GOVERNMENT'S ROLE HERE

THE SINGLE BIGGEST PART OF THE

$60 BILLION DISASTER AID LAW I

HELPING PEOPLE TO REBUILD THEI

HOMES, WHETHER THROUGH FLOOD

INSURANCE OR THE EXTRA FEM

GRANTS AND THERE'S A REA

QUESTION OF FAIRNESS AS NATE

FROM OCCUPY SANDY BROUGHT UP A

WELL AS OTHER PEOPLE SHOUL

PEOPLE WHO LIVE INLAND IN

SMALLER HOME IN MANY CASES I

THE CITY BE PAYING TO SUBSIDIZ

PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO BEAR TH

RISK OF LIVING ON THE COAST AN

THEN IN TURN SHOULD TH

GOVERNMENT ENCOURAGE THEM TO

REBUILD WHERE THEY KEE

THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES IN

DANGER

THEY'RE STRESSING OUT GOVERNMENT

EMERGENCY SERVICES IN A STORM.

>> I WANT TO GO TO LONG ISLAND

RALPH, PSE&G YOUR PARENT COMPANY

AND CORNER OF MY EYE I CAUGHT

COUPLE OF GESTURES THOUGHT YOU

MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

>> IT WAS WELL SAID.

THERE WERE DECISIONS TO BE MAD

HOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOIN

TO BE BUILT.

THERE WILL BE A DIFFEREN

MECHANISM FOR CAPITAL INVESTMENT

ON LONG ISLAND

THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE I

NEW JERSEY

DO WE WANT TO REBUILD AND WHAT

STANDARD AND HOW WILL WE PAY

>> ANOTHER QUESTION IN THE

AUDIENCE YOUR NAME AND QUESTIO

PLEASE

>> THANK YOU, PAULINA GRABCHEK

FROM PROTECTINGAMERICA.ORG

EVENTS LIKE SANDY HAVE SHOWN U

THAT NATURAL CATASTROPHES SEEM

TO BE HAPPENING MORE AND MORE IN

OUR NATION

MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS YOU

OPINION ON THE PRIVATE

REINSURANCE MARKET'S ABILITY T

HANDLE THESE UNFORTUNATE EVENTS?

>> PETER REINHART WANT TO TAKE A

CRACK AT THAT?

>> INSURANCE IS RISK TRANSFER,

HOW MUCH A HOMEOWNER WILL ABSORB

REFLECTED IN THE SIZE OF YOU

DEDUCTIBLE AND THE SIZE OF THE

INSURANCE BASE SO MY

UNDERSTANDING IS OTHER THAN TH

FLOOD INSURANCE WHICH IS A

FEDERAL PROGRAM THE PRIVAT

INSURANCE COMPANIES DID NOT TAKE

THAT BIG OF A HIT FROM SANDY

BECAUSE THEY WERE PROPERLY

PRICED AND MANY LOSSES WERE NO

COVERED.

ONE OF THE UNSETTLING LESSONS

LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ENOUG

ABOUT INSURANCE.

THEY ASSUME THEY HAD THE RIGHT

COVERAGE AND YET THEY DIDN'T

THE LESSONS LEARNED ARE THAT YOU

NEED TO CONSULT WITH SOMEBODY OR

EDUCATE YOURSELF ABOUT THE

PROPER ROLES OF INSURANCE, WHA

TYPES THERE ARE AND GO OUT AND

THEN GO OUT AND GET IT AND

ASSUME HOW MUCH YOU CAN AFFORD

HOW MUCH YOUR DEDUCTIBLE, HO

MUCH YOU'LL RAZE YOUR HOME U

AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

>> BACK TO NEW YORK, LINCOLN O

IT, JOE NOCERA, OP-ED COLUMNIS

OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES" WE'V

BEEN CONSUMED WITH TALK ABOU

FEE IN A, ABOUT THE FLOOD MAPS

AND FLOOD INSURANCE POLICIES A

WELL

CAN YOU GIVE ME ANY CLARITY IN

YOUR OPINION ABOUT HOW EFFECTIVE

THESE PROGRAMS AND POLICIES AR

IN TERMS OF PROTECTING PEOPL

WHO NEED HELP OR WHETHER THE

SHOULD BE MODIFIED OR DONE AWA

WITH AS SOME PEOPLE SAY?

>> WELL I'VE WAITED AN HOUR FO

ANOTHER CHANCE TO TALK SO I'

GOING TO ANSWER DIFFEREN

QUESTION FIRST

NATURE IS GOING TO WIN

ULTIMATELY

YOU CAN TALK ALL YOU WANT ABOU

REBUILDING, PUT ALL THE MONE

YOU WANT, PUT HOUSES ON LIFTS,

CHANGE INSURANCE, NATURE I

GOING TO WIN

IF CLIMATE CHANGE CAUSES US TO

HAVE A SUPERSTORM LIKE SANDY

EVERY YEAR OR EVERY TWO YEARS,

WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO

CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT

REBUILDING, CONSTANTLY CHANGIN

INSURANCE PLANS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND

DIFFERENT WAY TO COME AT THIS,

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO THINK

ABOUT MORE RADICAL THINGS, LIK

SHOULD YOU REBUILD IN A CERTAI

PLACE.

SHOULD LOWER MANHATTAN REMAI

WHAT IT IS

SHOULD WE PUT UP DIFFERENT

BARRIERS

THESE ARE MORE DIFFICULT

QUESTIONS AND ONE OF THE WORDS

THAT HAS NOT BEEN USED SO FA

TONIGHT IS THE WORD POLITICS

AND SO I HEAR A LOT OF TAL

ABOUT HOW.

>> THERE'S A SHARP DIVIDE IN

ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ISSU

AMONGST THE PARTIES THEMSELVES

AND SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING

EXACTLY HERE, DO WE HAVE TO, D

WE HAVE TO FIND SOME MAGICAL

LEADER WHO IS CAPABLE OF COMIN

UP WITH A CONSENSUS BUILDING

PLAN BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM

WE'RE LIVING IN A TEAM WHERE

CONSENSUS SEEMS TO DIALOGUE OU

POLITICAL DIALOGUE AT ALL.

>> WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU ABOU

THAT

YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT CONGRESS

CAN'T PASS ANYTHING IS EXTREMELY

FRUSTRATING AS WE'VE HEARD

ALREADY TONIGHT.

ULTIMATELY I THINK WHAT WE'R

WAITING FOR IS TO FIND OUT

WHETHER OR NOT THESE STORMS WERE

GOING TO HAPPEN EVERY YEAR

WE'RE NOT USED TO THE IDEA YET

THAT THE WORLD HAS CHANGED, THAT

NATURE HAS ACTUALLY CHANGED,

GLACIERS, ALL OF THE THING

THAT'S HAPPENING WITH CLIMAT

CHANGE, WE'RE LIVING THROUGH IT,

WE'RE GOT READY TO ACKNOWLEDGE

YET, I DON'T THINK, THAT THIS IS

GOING TO BE A REGULAR PART O

OUR LIVES.

AND THAT'S GOING TO COST TONS OF

MONEY AND IT'S GOING TO REQUIR

A DIFFERENT KIND OF THINKING S

IT'S NOT ONE LEADER PER SE

IT'S A KIND OF WILLINGNESS T

SUBMIT TO THE WORLD THAT WE NO

LIVE IN IS HOW I WOULD THINK

ABOUT IT

>> PATRICK MURRAY, YOU ARE I

TOUCH AS ANYBODY IS AROUND WIT

THE PUBLIC'S FEELINGS, THE

PUBLIC'S OPINIONS.

YOUR POLLING IS SHOWING YO

WHAT

>> THIS STORM REALLY HIT NEW

JERSEY IN A WAY PSYCHOLOGICALL

THAT IT DIDN'T HIT THE OTHER

STATES THAT WERE IMPACTED BY

THIS BECAUSE WHEN THE JERSEY

SHORE WAS HIT, IT WAS AN IMPAC

FELT BY PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LIV

DOWN THE JERSEY SHORE BECAUS

IT'S A PART OF OUR PSYCHOLOGICAL

MAKEUP

WE ASKED WHAT IS ONE OF NE

JERSEY'S BEST ASSETS THE SHORE

COMES ON THE TOP

>> THE POLL WAS QUESTION O

URGENCY.

>> WE ASKED SHOULD YOU REBUILD

THE SHORE, PEOPLE SAID WE NEED

TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S TH

PSYCHOLOGICAL IMPACT OF TH

SHORE AND THE ECONOMIC IMPAC

EVERYBODY'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT

THAT'S SO IMPORTANT, SUCH

DRIVER OF WHO WE ARE AS A STAT

AND HOW WE THINK, IF THE SHORE

IS DOING WELL, THEN NEW JERSEY

IS DOING WELL.

WE'VE SEEN IN OUR POLLING RECORD

NUMBERS SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING

TO GO DOWN TO THE SHORE FOR

DAY TRIP AT LEAST.

SHOW OF SUPPORT.

THE QUESTION IS FOR THE ECONOMY,

ARE THEY GOING TO STAY LONGER OR

ARE PEOPLE OUT OF THE STAT

GOING TO COME IN FOR THE LON

TRIPS LIKE THEY HAVE DONE IN THE

PAST

THAT'S THE BIG QUESTION IS

WHETHER THE NEW TOURISM CAMPAIGN

THAT THE STATE IS STARTING I

GOING TO BRING THOSE PEOPLE.

>> LIKE WE ESTABLISHED EARLIER

IN THE BROADCAST SOME IN CASES

THE REALTORS TRYING TO RENT OU

THE SEASONAL STUFF AT THE SHOR

ARE NOT DOING ALL THAT WELL IN

ALL OF THESE TOWNS AND IT'

PERCEPTION VERSUS REALITY.

YOUR NAME AND QUESTION

>> HEATHER, I'M A SCIENTIST WITH

CLEAN OCEAN ACTION, BASED IN NEW

JERSEY

I'M VERY GLAD THIS DISCUSSION IS

HAPPENING TONIGHT.

SEA LEVEL RISE IS PREDICTED TO

INCREASE BY 1.4 FEET BY 2050 AND

BY 3 TO 3.4 FEET BY 2100

WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE I

INTENSITY OF STORMS.

HOW WILL SEA LEVEL RISE AN

EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS LIK

SUPERSTORM SANDY BE TAKEN INTO

CONSIDERATION IN RESILIENC

PLANNING AND REBUILDING EFFORTS?

>> THANK YOU

BACK TO NEW YORK RIGHT NOW

COLONEL JOHN BOULE, FORMERLY

WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF

ENGINEERS.

IN YOUR PLANNING COULD YOU

ENVISION THE KIND OF CHANGES

WE'RE SEEING OCCURRING ON

REGULAR BASIS NOW COPING WITH

RISING SEA LEVEL THAT MEAN

EVERY TIME THERE IS A STORM THAT

COMES IN WITH A HIGHER SEA LEVEL

THERE WILL BE AN EXPONENTIAL

INCREASE IN THE INCREASE THAT'

GOING TO HAVE ON OUR SHORELINE

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION

MIKE, AND THE ANSWER IS, YOU

HAVE TO.

I MEAN YOU CAN'T PLAN FOR TODAY.

YOU HAVE TO PLAN FOR SOME POIN

IN THE FUTURE, AND WHEN YOU DO

THAT, YOU'VE GOT TO CONSIDER THE

DATA THAT'S BEFORE YOU AND MAK

SOME ASSUMPTIONS

THE YOUNG LADY FROM CLEAN OCEA

ACTION, YOU KNOW, THREW OUT SOME

NUMBERS ON SEA LEVEL RISE.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A DUNE,

FOR INSTANCE, YOU MAY BUILD THAT

DUNE TO 15 FEET FOR TODAY'

CONDITIONS, BUT YOU KNOW THE

SMARTER PLAN, WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT

SHE SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE TWO

FEET, THE SEA IS GOING TO BE TWO

FEET HIGHER IN 2050 SO WE OUGH

TO BUILD THAT SAND DUNE TO 1

FEET

SO THESE KIND OF, YOU KNOW

QUESTIONS ARE, CAN BE HANDLED BY

THE ENGINEERING INDUSTRY AND ARE

BEING HANDLED.

WHEN THE CORPS DOES PLANNING

THEY HAVE TO CONSIDER CLIMAT

CHANGE AND SEA LEVEL RISE IN

THEIR PLANNING PROCESS, SO

THAT'S HAPPENING, AND IT'S

HAPPENING BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE

HAPPENING.

SO THESE ARE NOT TECHNOLOGICALLY

CHALLENGING SOLUTIONS, BUT W

JUST HAVE TO BE PRUDENT AND WE

HAVE TO BE FORWARD-THINKING.

WE CAN'T, WE'VE GOT TO SLOW DOWN

A LITTLE BIT NOW SO THAT WE CA

COME UP WITH THE RIGHT SOLUTIONS

IS WHAT I'M SAYING

>> I GUESS SLOWING DOWN IS OKA

UNLESS YOU'RE LIVING IN A CITY

THAT COULD BE IN HARM'S WAY IN A

COUPLE OF WEEKS WHEN HURRICANE

SEASON COMES BACK AGAIN.

I MEAN TALK TO ME ABOUT WHEN YOU

HEAR THE PROJECTIONS ABOUT SEA

LEVEL RISE, YOU CAN PUT IN YOU

SECOND PUMP.

YOU CAN PUT IN YOUR RETENTION,

DRAIN PIT OR WHATEVER.

WILL HOBOKEN BE ABLE TO LIVE

UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS WIT

THOSE KIND OF RISING SEA LEVELS?

>> WHAT I'M ADVOCATING FOR IS WE

NEED LAYERS OF PROTECTION.

IT STARTS WITH THE IMMEDIACY

WITH THE COMMUNITY WORKING

TOGETHER WHICH WE HAD OVER 5,000

VOLUNTEERS COMING OUT AN

RESIDENTS GETTING PREPARED FOR

EVERY SINGLE STORM SO THAT'S

WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON AS W

APPROACH THE HURRICANE SEASO

BUT THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, LOOKING

AT THE BUILDING CODES AND I'

ADVOCATING WORKING WITH TH

STATE, CAN WE MAKE IT SO THA

FOR EXAMPLE ELEVATORS, ALL O

THE MECHANICALS FOR ELEVATOR

ARE UP ON THE TOP SO THA

THERE'S NO WAY IT WILL GET

FLOODED THAT EVERYTHING IS WIRED

INTO THE FIRE SUPPRESSIO

SYSTEM, WIRED INTO THE ELEVATORS

AND THE HALLWAY LIGHTS ARE LIT

THERE'S THINGS WE CAN BE DOING

TO REDUCE THE DAMAGE

THE ELEVATORS FOR EXAMPLE IS

SOMETHING THAT'S EXPENSIVE

REDUCE THE DAMAGE TO THA

INFRASTRUCTURE

SO IT'S LAYERS OF PROTECTION AND

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKIN

TOWARDS IN HOBOKEN

I BELIEVE WE CAN DO IT BUT

OBVIOUSLY WORKING, WE'RE TRYIN

TO GET INTO THE ARMY CORPS STUDY

AND WORKING WITH STEVENS

INSTITUTE AND THESE ARE THINGS

THAT ARE GOING TO CONTINUE T

HAVE TO BE EVALUATED BUT THE

PUMP CAN HELP US

>> THIS IS YOUR SPECIALTY, YOU

COULDN'T TELL US WHAT TIME AND

DATE THE NEXT BIG STORM WILL

ARRIVE BUT PERHAPS YOU COULD

TELL US ABOUT SEA LEVEL AND HO

QUICKLY IT'S RISING.

I'VE HEARD TALK IT IS GOING TO

RISE DIFFERENTLY IN DIFFEREN

LOCATIONS.

>> OH, YES, ABSOLUTELY

WELL, AT LEAST IN THE NEW YORK

CITY AREA, IT'S BEEN RISIN

ABOUT A FOOT IN THE LAST CENTURY

AND THIS WILL -- WE ANTICIPATE

IT MIGHT RISE TWO OR THREE FEE

BY MID CENTURY AND MAYBE A BIT

MORE, ANOTHER FOOT BY THE END OF

THE CENTURY.

>> TWO OR THREE FEET BY 40 YEARS

FROM NOW

>> WELL 50 YEARS FROM NOW.

>> WOW

WHAT DOES THAT -

>> WELL THAT IS JUST ONE

ESTIMATE, AND --

>> IS THAT LIKE A MID RANG

ESTIMATE, LOW ESTIMATE

>> IT'S SORT OF A MID RANGE TO

HIGH

>> WHAT IS THE WORST CAS

SCENARIO

>> OH, YOU DON'T WANT TO HEA

IT

>> I DON'T THINK WE DO

WHEN YOU GET THAT, YOU GET THE

POSSIBILITY, NOT A POSSIBILITY

BUT ANYTHING THAT ROLLS IN O

TOP OF THAT BECOME

SUBSTANTIALLY MORE DAMAGING.

>> EVEN WITH A SMALL AMOUNT OF

SEA LEVEL RISE YOU COULD HAVE

FLOOD THAT IS MUCH MOR

DAMAGING

>> WELL ON THAT OPTIMISTIC NOT

WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT DUNES.

SAND DUNES HAVE GONE FROM

GUESS YOU CALL THEM

TOPOGRAPHICAL ISSUE TO FEATURE

TO A HUGE POLITICAL ISSUE.

THERE'S A SHARP DIVIDE OVER WH

DECIDES WHERE WE GET THEM TO GO.

>> SUPERSTORM SANDY CAUSED $30

BILLION OF DAMAGE IN NEW JERSEY,

365,000 HOMES WERE DESTROYED O

SIGNIFICANTLY DAMAGED.

TED AND DORSEY'S SHIP BOTTOM

HOME SURVIVED.

THEIR HOMEMADE DUNE HELD

>> FOR 45 YEARS WE'VE PLANTED,

WE PUT UP FENCING, AND WE'VE

NURTURED, WE RESPECT THE DUNES

IT IS NECESSARY.

>> BUT THEY DON'T WANT THE ARM

CORPS OF ENGINEERS COMING ONTO

THEIR LAND TO BUILD PART OF

UNIFORM SHOREWIDE DUNE SYSTEM.

THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HA

HAD PLANS TO BUILD DUNES ON TH

DEVELOPED SHORE FROM SANDY HOO

TO CAPE MAY SINCE 2006

TODAY THE SHORE IS STILL A

PATCHWORK OF COMPLETED AND

UNCOMPLETED PROJECTS, PARTLY

BECAUSE OF THE RESERVATIONS OF

HOMEOWNERS LIKE THEM

JOE IS CALLING NEIGHBORS HIMSELF

TO ENCURRENTLY THEM TO SIGN.

>> INSTEAD OF TALKING TO THEM,

LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T MAKE

CONTACT AND LISTEN TO THEM T

FIND OUT WHY THEY HAVEN'

SIGNED

>> WE DON'T WANT DEVELOPMENT O

THE TOP OF THAT DUNE

WE DON'T WANT A WALKAWAY BENCHES

OR ANY OF THAT

>> IN RESPONSE TO THES

CONCERNS, SHIP BOTTOM ADDED A NO

BUILD CLAUSE TO THEIR EASEMENT

BUT THEY ARE STILL SKEPTICAL

PROMISES MIGHT NOT BE KEPT UNDER

NEW ADMINISTRATIONS.

THEY WORRY WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO

SHIP BOTTOM IF ALL OF TH

EASEMENTS ARE LEFT UNSIGNED.

>> WE'RE LEFT IN THE MIDDLE AN

GET THE WRATH OF THE STORM

>> THIS IS HAPPENING IN MANY

TOWNS ON THE SHORE

50 MILES TO THE NORTH IN BAY

HEAD RESIDENTS ARE TAKING

DIFFERENT TACT

>> RIGHT AFTER THE HURRICANE

MOST OF US HAD LOST THE BULK O

OUR DUNES AND WE REALIZED THAT

WE WERE PRETTY VULNERABLE, SO WE

DECIDED THAT THE EASIEST THING

TO DO, THE QUICKEST THING TO D

WOULD BE TO BUILD A ROCK WALL.

>> OCEANFRONT HOMEOWNER THATCHER

BROWN CONVINCED 13 OF HI

NEIGHBORS TO CREATE A DUNE

THEMSELVES AT AN AVERAGE COST OF

ALMOST $200,000 A HOME

HE FACED CRITICISM BUT HE SAYS

HIS COMMUNITY NEEDED THE QUICK

PROTECTION

>> WE HAD TO DO IT WHILE W

STILL HAD HOMES.

RISING SEA LEVELS, WITH GLOBAL

WARMING, WITH INCREASED STOR

INTENSITY, I BELIEVE THESE

STORMS ARE ONLY GOING TO GET

WORSE.

>> GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE

PROMISED TO BUILD A CONTINUOUS

DUNE SYSTEM ON THE SHORE N

MATTER WHAT IT TAKES BUT IT'

NOT LIKELY TO BE A QUICK OR EASY

FIGHT.

I'M CAROLYN BUEHLER IN BAY HEAD,

NEW JERSEY

>> WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE

AUDIENCE

>> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS TI

DILLINGHAM

I WORK WITH THE AMERICAN LITERAL

SOCIETY HERE ON THE SHORE AND IN

JAMAICA BAY AND BROAD CHANNEL.

MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE

ENGINEERED BEACHES AND DUNES

BECAUSE THESE AREN'T NATURAL

SYSTEMS THEY REQUIRE EXPENSIVE

LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE TO KEE

THEM IN PLACE PARTICULARLY GIVEN

THE STRESSES WITH HE SEE FRO

RISING SEA LEVELS AND INCREASING

STORMS

MY QUESTION IS WHO PAYS FOR THAT

MAINTENANCE AND HAVE MOR

NATURAL APPROACHES TO BEACH AN

DUNE RESTORATION BEEN EVALUATED?

>> THANKS VERY MUCH.

BILL ULFELDER YOU WANT TO TAKE A

CRACK AT THAT?

>> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND ONE

THING I WANT TO POINT OU

STUDIES SHOW FOR EVERY DOLLA

INVESTED IN DISASTER RIS

REDUCTION THERE'S A FOUR-FOL

RETURN IN RETURN PAYMENTS,

THAT'S GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE,

BUILT INFRASTRUCTURE AND I THINK

WE'RE GOING TO SEE OVER TIME A

COMBINATION OF SOURCES PAYIN

FOR THIS

>> YOU'VE BEEN QUOTED AS SAYIN

THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET, BUT

WE MUST TAKE BOLD ACTION

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT

>> I THINK THE POINT IS WHEN I

SAY THERE'S NO SILVER BULLET

IT'S NOT SIMPLY A SEA WALL O

SEAGATE.

AFTER SUPERSTORM SANDY THE

GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK WAS TALKING

ABOUT A SEAGATE TO PROTECT

MANHATTAN.

AFTER THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION

THAT TALK WENT AWAY AND TH

REALIZATION THIS IS A MIX, THERE

HAS TO BE A BROAD DIVERS

PORTFOLIO.

>> THE MAYOR SAID NO TO SE

WALLS.

>> PARDON ME

>> THE MAYOR SAID NO TO SE

WALLS.

>> THE MAYOR FROM THE OUTSET

HAD TALKED ABOUT A DIVERSE SUITE

OF SOLUTIONS

WE'LL SEE FEDERAL AND STAT

FUNDING AND PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL

FUNDING WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH

INSURANCE, ALL KINDS OF WAYS

IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL OF THOS

THINGS BECAUSE THIS IS A HUG

CHALLENGE THAT IS GOING TO PLA

OUT OVER DECADES AND THIS WHOL

CENTURY AS WE MAKE THIS REGION

RESILIENT IN A CLIMATE CHANGIN

WORLD.

>> NICOLE GELINAS, YOU HAV

QUESTIONS OF MONEY GOING T

PRIVATE HOMES OR BUSINESSES.

WHEN A PROJECT TAKES ON THIS

DIMENSION AND BECOME

ESSENTIALLY A PUBLIC WORKS

PROJECT, DOES IT FALL WITHIN

KIND OF YOUR RANGE O

ACCEPTABILITY?

>> SURE, BUT THE MAINTENANCE

QUESTION IS A VERY GOO

QUESTION

BUILDING A SYSTEM OF FLOODWALL

AROUND NEW YORK CITY MIGHT COS

$20 BILLION, PROBABLY MORE, BU

EVERY SINGLE YEAR YOU'VE GOT T

SPEND 10% OF THAT MAINTAININ

IT

IN OUR FOCUS ON GETTING FEDERA

AID, IT PREVENTS US FROM

THINKING ABOUT THAT, THE SAM

THING THAT WE DID AFTER 9/11

WHERE YOU HAD NEW YORK FOCUSED

INTENSELY ON GETTING ITS $21

BILLION FROM WASHINGTON.

IT TURNED OUT AFTER DURING THE

NEXT DECADE NEW YORK SPENT A

GOOD DEAL OF THE MONEY ON TH

WRONG THINGS SO WE DUG INTO TH

STATE AND LOCAL TAXPAYER

POCKETS.

>> THE MONEY WAS NOT GOING WHERE

IT WAS INTENDED.

>> EXACTLY, COST MORE THAN $20

MILLION BECAUSE WE THOUGHT O

THIS AS FREE MONEY THAT CAME

DOWN FROM SOMEWHERE THAT W

HADN'T SENT IT TO WASHINGTON I

THE FIRST PLACE, AND SO WE KIN

OF FRITTERED IT AWAY AND ENDED

UP NOT HAVING BUILT TH

BUILDINGS AND SO FORTH THAT WE

WERE SUPPOSED TO BUILD

>> FOR THE CONGRESSMEN WHO WER

THE ONES HOLDING UP THIS AID

PACKAGE, THE ONES WHO EARNED THE

EARTH OF GOVERNOR CHRISTIE ARE

YOU SAYING THEY'RE RIGHT

>> IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY NO IN

AN ACUTE DISASTER BUT A FE

YEARS FROM NOW WE MAY BE LOOKING

AT FOR EXAMPLE A SUBWAY SYSTEM

THAT IS STILL NOT PROTECTED FROM

MASSIVE FLOODS

THE MTA HAS MORE THAN 500 POINTS

OF ENTRY FOR WATER TO GET INTO

THE SYSTEM, JUST IN LOWE

MANHATTAN.

SO HOW THEY GO ABOUT SPENDIN

THEIR VERY FINITE MONEY IS

IMPORTANT, NOT JUST THE MONE

THEY GET RIGHT NOW FRO

WASHINGTON BUT HOW ARE THE

GOING TO MAINTAIN THIS

INFRASTRUCTURE AFTER WASHINGTO

HAS FORGOTTEN ABOUT THIS

DISASTER AND GONE ON TO ANOTHE

ONE.

THE IMPORTANT THING IS FOR THE

STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO

UNDERSTAND, THIS IS THEI

RESPONSIBILITY

THIS IS A VERY WEALTHY REGION.

WE'VE GOT TO LOOK TO OURSELVES

TO FUND THESE PROJECTS THAT MAKE

US BETTER OFF.

>> BACK TO OUR LINCOLN CENTER,

JOHN CAMERON, CHAIR OF THE THE

LONG ISLAND REGIONAL COUNCIL

WITH THAT IN MIND IS THERE ANY

WAY THE MONEY ON LONG ISLAND

WOULD BE ADEQUATE OR THE MONEY

IN NEW YORK STATE WOULD BE

ADEQUATE TO DO THE KIND OF

THINGS NECESSARY TO GET TH

ISLAND OVER THE DAMAGE THAT'

BEEN DONE AND CREATE A

ENVIRONMENT WHERE DAMAGE COULD

BE MITIGATED OR AVOIDED IN THE

FUTURE

>> THERE WILL BE ADEQUATE MONE

I WOULD SAY TO MITIGATE BU

ABSOLUTELY NOT TO ELIMINATE TH

POTENTIAL IN THE FUTURE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOU

MULTIBILLIONS OF DOLLARS

THAT'S WHY I SAID EARLIER, W

NEED TO PRIORITIZE THE MOS

CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND COST

EFFECTIVELY DEVELOP SOLUTION

BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAV

SUFFICIENT MONEY

WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT IS MOS

IMPORTANT FOR PUBLIC HEALTH AN

SAFETY, THE ELECTRIC GRID AS

WELL AS THE WASTE WATER SYSTEMS.

ONCE WE HAVE THOSE, IF WE HAVE

THOSE FAIRLY WELL RESILIENT AN

PROTECTED THEN WE CAN CONTINUE

TO OPERATE

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE T

SATISFY EVERY DEMAND

THE MONEY IS NOT THERE

WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT COST

EFFECTIVELY AND EFFECTIVE WAYS

TO APPROACH THE PROBLEM.

PLANNING IS CRITICAL

JOE NOCERA MENTIONED THE

POLITICS IS DIFFICULT.

WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A

DISASTER IT'S OKAY, EVERYBODY'

THERE AND PULLING THE SAME

DIRECTION.

YOU TALK ABOUT AFTERWARDS AN

CHANGING BUILDING CODES, E

CETERA AND FUNDING, WHERE TH

MONEY GOES, IT GETS VERY

DIFFICULT AND THE POLITICS ARE

WE HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT

RESPOND TO THEIR ELECTORATE AN

WE'RE GOING TO SEE HOW WEL

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ACCOMMODAT

CHANGE

CHANGE IS A VERY DIFFICULT

CONCEPT FOR PEOPLE TO ACCEPT BUT

IT'S INEVITABLE AND WE NEED TO

DIRECT IT.

>> LET'S GO TO JOE NOCERA.

JOE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THESE

BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

LOBBIED FOR AND EFFECTIVELY WO

TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THESISH YOU

ISSUES AFTER THE STORM

DO YOU THINK THE MONEY WAS, IT'S

A HARD PHRASE TO USE BUT WAS THE

MONEY DESERVED BY THIS REGION TO

THE EXTENT WE GOT THAT MUC

MONEY AND DO YOU HAVE AN

CONFIDENCE THAT THE MONEY IS

BEING USED PROPERLY?

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, DESERVED.

THE COUNTRY DOES HAVE, YOU KNOW,

THE COUNTRY DOES TEND TO WANT TO

SPEND MONEY IN THE WAKE OF A

DISASTER TO HELP PEOPLE OUT.

I THINK THE MONEY THAT WILL GO

TO INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS

WHATEVER I HAPPEN TO THINK ABOUT

REBUILDING OR NOT IS REALL

GOING TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE

I MADE A BUNCH OF CALLS IN THE

LAST COUPLE OF DAYS TO

HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE BASICALLY

TEARING THEIR HAIR OUT, CAN'

GET THE FEMA MONEY, FIGHTING

WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANY

THEY'VE GOT A HOUSE STILL HAS

BASEMENT THAT'S A MESS

THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BE REALLY

HELPFUL.

THE QUESTION -- THERE IS NOT

ENOUGH MONEY EVEN IN THAT BI

BUCKET TO DO ALL THE

INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS THAT NEE

TO BE DONE, EVEN IF EVERYBOD

CAME TOGETHER ON A PLAN.

THERE JUST ISN'T

AND SO NOW THEN IT BECOMES A

QUESTION OF HOW STRATEGIC AR

YOU GOING TO BE?

HOW ALIGNED ARE YOU GOING TO BE?

HOW MUCH FIGHTING ARE YOU GOIN

TO DO AND THE ANSWER IS WE DON'T

REALLY KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING T

PLAY OUT YET

I'M A JOURNALIST, I TEND NOT T

BE OPTIMISTIC, BUT WE REALLY

DON'T KNOW YET HOW THAT BUCKET

OF MONEY WILL BE SPENT O

WHETHER IT WILL BE SPENT

PROPERLY OR NOT.

>> PATRICK MURRAY, BACK TO YOU

YOU TALKED TO PEOPLE

ARE PEOPLE OPTIMISTIC THAT THI

MONEY WILL BE WELL SPENT, THAT

THE END RESULT WILL BE A GOO

ONE, WE'LL CALL COME OUT OF THIS

IN THE IN A KUMBAYA MOMENT BUT

EFFECTIVELY HEALED

>> THEY'VE BEEN CAUTIOUSLY

OPTIMISTIC AND A MAJORITY OF

RESIDENTS SAY THEY ARE

CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC THE MONE

WILL BE WELL SPENT AND GO TO

WHERE IT IS.

WHETHER WE'LL GET TH

COOPERATION FROM ALL THE

DIFFERENT LEVELS THAT IT WIL

FILTER DOWN TO THE PEOPLE WH

NEED IT, WHETHER THINGS LIKE THE

DUNES WILL BE BUILT THAT

EVERYBODY SEEMS TO SUPPORT

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUN

WAS 80% OF WATERFRONT RESIDENT

SAY THEY'RE WILLING TO BUILD THE

DUNES, FOLKS WE SAW FROM SHI

BOTTOM IN THE TAPED PIEC

REPRESENT 15% OF HOMEOWNERS.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN

DOING WITH THE POLLING OVER TH

PAST SIX MONTHS IS TO DISPEL

SOME OF THE RUMORS AND FIND OU

WHAT THE KNOWLEDGE LEFLDS ARE.

THE BIG ISSUE MORE SO THAN THE

MONEY ARE THE FLOOD ELEVATIONS

ARE THE BIG ISSUE WHICH PEOPLE

DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WILL

AFFECT THEM.

>> THE GOVERNOR QUICKLY HAD TH

STATE ADOPTING THOSE MAPDS

BEFORE THE FEMA FOLKS FINALIZE

THEM

>> THAT CREATED A LOT OF

CONFUSION.

>> I'LL GET BACK TO YO

COMMISSIONER

I CAN SEE A LITTLE SOMETHING

GOING ON THERE

YOUR NAME AND QUESTION

>> I'M CASIMOS FROM STOP FEM

NOW, THE GRASSROOT

ORGANIZATION

WE STRONGLY URGE THE SUPREME

COURT JUSTICES TO HAND DOWN TH

DECISION ON THE HARVEY CEDAR

CASE

WE CAN'T BUY THEM OUT OR EMINENT

DOMAIN OUT, WE NEED THAT

DECISION NOW

>> THE HARVEY CEDARS CASE FO

THOSE WHO DON'T LEAVE IN NEW

JERSEY, IT INVOLVES AN AWARD O

$375,000 TO A COUPLE FOR THE

RIGHT TO BUILD, GET AN EASEMEN

TO BUILD A DUNE IN FRONT O

THEIR PLACE.

>> THAT IS CORRECT AND WHA

PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS

THEY'RE ADDING LAND TO YOU

PROPERTY

IT'S NOT EMINENT DOMAIN.

THEY CALL IT EMINENT DOMAIN BU

THEY'RE ADDING LAND TO YOU

PROPERTY

THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES

NEW JERSEY AND THE ARMY CORPS OF

ENGINEERS HAVE BEEN TRYING T

GET THE DUNE SYSTEM BUILT FO

DECADES NOW AND IF WE GET TH

DUNES AND THE ELEVATION, IF WE

GET THE EASEMENTS, WILL OU

ELEVATION GO DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY,

WILL OUR FLOOD INSURANCE RATES

GO DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY, AND WHE

IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN?

IF WE GOT THE EASEMENTS, WHE

CAN THAT HAPPEN FROM THE

COMMANDER IN THE ARMY CORPS OF

ENGINEERS?

>> COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE UP

>> WELL, I KNOW NOTHING ABOU

THAT SUBJECT, BUT I JUST WANTE

TO CIRCLE BACK TO SOME

DISCUSSION THAT WAS OCCURRIN

BEFORE AND SOME COMMENTS MAD

BEFORE

>> YES

>> THE FEDERAL DOLLARS ARE

CERTAINLY MONIES THAT AR

NEEDED

THEY'RE NEEDED IN BELMAR AND

HOBOKEN, NEEDED BY BUSINESSES,

BY COMMUNITIES, BY INDIVIDUALS

SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A NEED AND

WITH REGARD TO IS THERE AN

CONFIDENCE FROM NEW JERSEYIANS

I CAN'T SPEAK WHAT'S GOING ON IN

NEW YORK BUT CONFIDENCE FROM THE

NEW JERSEYIANS THAT THE MONE

WILL BE WELL SPENT THEY WILL B

WELL SPENT AND PLANNED OUT

WE'LL BUILD SMARTER, SAFER AND

MORE RESILIENT

>> THE GOVERNOR HAS PUT TH

COMTROLLER IN CHARGE

>> FROM A COMPLIANCE STANDPOIN

IT'S IMPORTANT

IN THE GULF COAST RIGHT AFTE

KATRINA, HUNDREDS, BILLIONS AN

BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WERE SPENT

BUT RECENTLY, HUD OIG AUDIT CAME

OUT AND $700 MILLION WASTE

GIVEN AWAY TO INDIVIDUALS IN

100,000 CLIPS AND NEVER SPENT ON

HOUSING.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN I

NEW JERSEY

>> PETER REINHART, PEOPLE, THESE

ARE THEIR HOMES AND TREASURE

AND SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY RIGH

NOW THIS

TALK TO ME WHAT YOU'RE OBSERVING

HERE AND SPECIFICALLY ADDRES

SOME OF THE CONCERNS IF YOU CAN.

>> YEAH, THERE'S SORT OF A

PARALYSIS DUE TO UNCERTAINTY

UNLESS YOU HAVE A LOT OF YOU

OWN INDEPENDENT WEALTH AND CAN

AFFORD TO MOVE AHEAD REGARDLESS,

YOU'RE STILL FOR THE MOST PART

PARALYZED.

THE FEMA MAPS ARE NOT FINALFINALIZED

WE'RE NOT SURE HOW MUCH TH

INSURANCE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE,

AND AS I SAID UNLESS YOU'R

INDEPENDENTLY WEALTHY, YOU CAN'T

REALLY MOVE AHEAD YET UNTIL YO

KNOW JUST WHAT THE COSTS ARE

GOING TO BE.

[ APPLAUSE ]

>> AND THAT MOVING AHEAD TO BE

PEOPLE WHO WANT TO STAY OR G

AND PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO SAY

CAN'T AFFORD TO SALE

>> BEFORE WE WENT ON THE AIR

GOVERNOR CHRISTIE ANNOUNCED

$300 MILLION PROGRAM, BLUE

ACRES, CALLED DIFFERENT THINGS

THAT WOULD BUY OUT SERVILLE,

LITTLE FALLS AND SOME OF OF TH

SANDY AREAS SO THAT AT LEAST I

A GLIMMER OF HOPE FOR THE PEOPLE

WHO REALLY HAVE NO CHOICE.

>> LET'S GO BACK TO LINCOL

CENTER

RICHARD RAVITCH YOU WERE THE

LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF THE STATE

OF NEW YORK.

THERE IS OBVIOUSLY MOMENTUM,

GOVERNOR CUOMO PUSHED FOR TH

SAME TYPE OF PROGRAM BUYIN

PEOPLE OUT OF FLOOD-PRONE AREAS.

DO YOU THINK IT'S A WISE MOVE?

CAN THE STATE AFFORD THAT MOVE

>> YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S

IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THA

DEALING WITH THE RISK OF A

NATURAL DISASTER AND THE RISIN

WATER TABLE IS NOT THE ONL

PROBLEM THAT WE FACE IN THIS

COUNTRY.

AND THERE ARE ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF

COMPETITION FOR LIMITED PUBLIC

RESOURS FOR EQUALLING COMPELLING

PUBLIC PROBLEMS.

THIS COUNTRY IS UNDERSPENDING ON

ITS PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE

MOST SERIOUS WAY TO BEGIN WITH

THE CHINESE SPEND EIGHT TIMES AS

HIGH A PERCENTAGE OF THEIR GDP

ON INFRASTRUCTURE AS WE DO

YOU TALK TO ANYBODY ABOUT TH

QUALITY OF OUR HIGHWAY SYSTEM OR

OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM

AND WE ARE UNDERSPENDING TO

DRAMATIC DEGREE, SO THE ISSUE OF

HOW WE ALLOCATE LIMITE

RESOURCES IS AN IMPORTANT ISSU

THAT ULTIMATELY THE PRESIDEN

AND THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED

STATES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE

GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THAT

DECISION, AND IT'S VERY EASY I

THE ABSTRACT, WHEN YOU DON'T

HAVE TO CONJURE WITH THE

COMPETITIVE DEMANDS FOR LIMITE

RESOURCES, OR FOR THE FACT THA

THERE'S ABAN ENORMOUS RESISTANCE

TO TAXATION EVEN THOUGH TH

MONEY MIGHT BE SPENT ON NOBL

CAUSES

THESE ARE THE POLITICA

REALITIES WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH

OF COURSE GOVERNOR CUOMO CARES

ABOUT DOING THIS TO THE UTMOST

DEGREE AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE THI

SYSTEM ASINESS LENT FROM THE

RISKS OF OTHER STORMS.

HE HAS OTHER PROBLEMS,

COLLAPSING BRIDGES, PUBLIC

TRANSPORTATION SMDS, HE'S GO

CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE ENOUG

MONEY TO REBUILD THEIR SCHOOLS

THERE'S ENORMOUS PRESSURES AND

HE FACES A LOT A PROBLEM OF

LOT OF PEOPLE NOT WANTING TO PAY

MORE TAXES

HOW THE ISSUE OF THE STORM I

GOING TO PLAY IN THE CONTEXT O

THE TOTAL COMPETITION AS I SAI

FOR LIMITED RESOURCES IS THE

CENTRAL QUESTION THAT OU

SOCIETY HAS TO CONJURE WITH HIM.

>> NOT AN EASY QUESTION TO

ANSWER

WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THA

WAS TAPED IN NEW YORK AN

RECORDED EARLIER

LISTEN

>> HI, MY NAME IS TIMOTHY AND

LIVE IN BROOKLYN

I'M CURIOUS WHEN PEOPLE WILL

START TAKING EMERGENCY

PREPARATIONS SERIOUS

>> BRIEF BUT DIRECT QUESTION

>> JOE NOCERA, YOU WANTED US T

GET BACK TO YOU.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET YOU G

NOW.

TALK ABOUT THE INDIVIDUA

RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE THESE

DANGERS SERIOUSLY.

>> WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE

LET'S JUST GIVE SOME CREDI

WHERE IT'S DUE

THERE WERE, THE REASON SO FE

PEOPLE DIED IN SANDY IN NEW YORK

WAS PRECISELY BECAUSE THE CITY

HAS A TERRIFIC PREPAREDNESS PLAN

IN PLACE AND THEY HAD A GOOD

EVACUATION PLAN, AND YOU KNOW,

YOU HAD A GIANT NEIGHBORHOOD

THAT BURNED DOWN WHERE NOBOD

WAS INJURED, AND THE REASON FO

THAT IS BECAUSE THEY WERE AL

GONE

SO I FEEL LIKE YOU GOT TO GIVE

SOME CREDIT HERE AND SAY THA

THE CITY DID A VERY GOOD JOB O

GETTING PEOPLE READY FOR THE

FACT THAT THIS WAS A REAL, THI

WAS A SERIOUS STORM THAT HAD T

BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY

TO ME THE LARGER PROBLEM CAME IN

THE IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH WHER

NEITHER THE CITY, THE STATE,

MORE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WA

IN ANY WAY PREPARED TO DEAL WITH

THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS OF THE

PEOPLE RIGHT AFTER THE STORM

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAN

GOODNESS WE ARE A COUNTRY WHER

PEOPLE HELP EACH OTHER BECAUSE

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY PEOPLE GET

BACK ON THEIR FEET IN TH

IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH SO TO ME THE

BIG NEED WAS NOT IMMEDIATELY

BEFORE BUT IMMEDIATELY AFTER

>> COLONEL BOULE WE TALKED WIT

YOU ABOUT PREPARATIONS, TALK T

ME HOW THE PROCESS OF DEALIN

WITH THE AFTERMATH THAT JOE WA

JUST REFERRING TO AND USING TH

AFTERMATH TO TAKE THE NEXT STE

TO GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE.

>> IT'S A CHALLENGING QUESTION

AND WHEN I SAID WE HAVE TO MOV

SLOWLY BEFORE, MIKE, WHAT

MEANT REALLY IS WE DON'T WANT TO

JUMP TOO QUICKLY TO THE WRON

STRATEGIES AND THAT'S WHAT I

MEAN

WE'VE GOT TO DO SOME CAREFUL

ANALYSIS BEFORE WE DECIDE HO

WE'RE GOING TO INVEST LIMITE

FUNDS, YOU KNOW, $60 BILLION

IT'S A LOT OF MONEY BUT IT'S

LIMITED TO SOME OF THESE

REBUILDING SOLUTIONS, AND YO

KNOW MY COLLEAGUE HERE, JOHN

CAMERON, HAD A GREAT POINT THA

HE MADE ABOUT PRIORITIZING, AN

REALLY IT GOES TO THE POINT THAT

YOU TALKED ABOUT, JOE, WIT

PREPARATION.

REALLY WHEN -- IT'S A RISK

MANAGEMENT EXERCISE AND YOU WANT

TO FIND A WAY TO REDUCE THE RISK

TO THE PUBLIC, TO THE LOWEST

LEVEL THAT YOU CAN AFFORD, AND

YOU CAN DO SOME OF THAT IN THE

PREPARATION PHASE.

YOU CAN DO SOME OF THAT IN THE

RESPONSE AND RECOVERY PHASE AN

THEN YOU CAN DO SOME OF THAT I

THE MITIGATION PHASE WHERE W

ARE NOW.

AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS MOVE

DELIBERATELY IN THE MITIGATION

PHASE TO REALLY ADDRESS THOS

COMMUNITIES THAT ARE AT TH

HIGHEST RISK

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE

PROBABILITY OF FLOODING IN THE

CASE OF A COASTAL STORM AND TH

SEVERITY OF THAT FLOODING, AND

QUITE FRANKLY, THAT VARIES

ACROSS THE REGION DEPENDING ON

WHERE YOU ARE, AND SO WE SHOUL

LOOK AT THAT RISK AND WE SHOUL

MEASURE THAT RISK SCIENTIFICALLY

AND WE SHOULD LOOK AT INVESTIN

OUR LIMITED FUNDS EARLY IN THE

AREAS THAT ARE AT THE MOST RIS

AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD I

THIS -- I'M AN OLD ARMY GUY --

AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS WAR

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS IT AND

IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME TO WIN

IT, WE START ATTACKING SOME OF

THE OTHER AREAS AS THE CAPITAL

BECOMES AVAILABLE TO MAK

CONTINUED INVESTMENTS AND THEN

WE KNOCK DOWN THAT RISK AS WE GO

AND WE LOOK AT THAT IN A

DELIBERATE FASHION

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO

APPROACH THE PROBLEM

>> COLONEL YOU LED US EXACTL

WHERE WE WANT TO GO, WHERE DO WE

GO AHEAD WHEN WE REACH THE

ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY ABOUT SIX

MONTHS AWAY FROM NOW

WE ARE TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM THE

BEGINNING OF HURRICANE SEASON.

CINA WRIGHT, PRESIDENT AND CEO

OF UNITED WAY OF NEW YORK CITY

WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE

>> I THINK WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSE

HERE IS THAT THE CHALLENGE I

ENORMOUS

THE RESOURCES ARE NOT THERE TO

PATCH THE CURRENT CHALLENGE SO

WE DO HAVE TO BE SMART

WE HAVE TO BE STRATEGIC.

WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE.

I THINK THERE HAS TO BE AN

ADVOCACY PLATFORM.

ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT

JOE IS BRINGING UP A BIT IS TH

POLITICS AND WITH SO MAN

CHALLENGES BEFORE OUR LEADERS,

THEY HAVE TO PICK WHERE TO MAK

THE INVESTMENTS.

SO WE DO NEED MAYBE AN ADVOCAC

CAMPAIGN WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAYING

WE NEED INVESTMENTS DIRECTED I

THESE STRATEGIC PLACES WHERE

WE'RE GOING TO GET THE MOST BANG

FOR OUR BUCK SO I THINK THAT'S

SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD THINK

ABOUT AND ORGANIZE AROUND.

>> OKAY.

COMMISSIONER CONSTABLE

WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE

>> WE'RE AT A GOOD PLACE NOW

FINALLY IN THAT WE'RE STARTING

TO GET THE FEDERAL MONIES TO

FLOW

IT'S BEEN TOO SLOW CANDIDLY BU

THE FAUCET IS ABOUT TO OPEN SO

HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEK

OVER THE SUMMER YOU'LL SEE HOMES

REBUILT, BUSINESSES WITH CAPITAL

START TO MOVE FORWARD BUT MORE

THAN JUST THAT, WE HAVE TO B

SMART FROM A LONG RANGE PLANNING

STANDPOINT

WE HAVE TO REENGINEER BEACHES.

WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

WHERE WE'RE GOING TO REBUILD

CERTAIN COMMUNITIES SO A YEA

FROM TODAY, OBVIOUSLY WE'R

GOING TO BE A LOT BETTER OFF

THAN WHERE WE ARE AND THE LAST

POINT IS WE HAVE TO ENGAGE

EVERYONE IN IT, THE FLAN

PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITY AN

AMERICAN RED CROSS AND STATE

OFFICIALS.

>> MAYOR DOHERTY

>> IN BELMAR WE'LL START OFF THE

SUMMER SEASON WITH A BRAND NEW

BOARDWALK.

GOVERNOR CHRISTIE WILL JOIN US

MAY 22nd FOR THAT NEW BOARDTAL

WITH AND WE'LL BE PREPARED FOR

MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES TO COME TO

THE JERSEY SHORE AND CREATE NE

MEMORIES

I THINK WE HAVE TO BE OPTIMISTIC

ABOUT OUR FUTURE

IT'S ONLY BEEN A LITTLE OVER SIX

MONTHS SINCE SANDY CAME THROUG

SO IT'S STILL A PRETTY EMOTIONAL

TIME

WITH THE BRAIN POWER WE HAVE AND

THE RESOURCES IN THIS AREA I

THINK WE CAN MOVE AHEAD FORWAR

AND LOOK FORWARD TO A GREA

FUTURE IN KNOWLEDGE AND NE

JERSEY

>> RICHARD RAVITCH, SAME

QUESTION TO YOU, SIR, WHERE DO

WE GO FROM HERE?

>> WELL, I PREFER TO BE AN

OPTIMISTIC ALSO AND I THINK AS I

SAID EARLIER, WE HAVE A BI

PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY IN

CONFRONTING THE TOTALITY OF OU

INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES OF WHICH

THE RISKS OF THESE DISASTERS I

ONLY ONE PART AND I HOPE AND

EXPECT THAT THE GOVERNMENT A

ALL LEVELS, AT THE STATE LEVEL

AND PARTICULARLY AT THE FEDERA

LEVEL BECAUSE THAT'S WHY THE

DEEPEST POCKETS ARE, ARE GOING

TO MAKE SOME EFFORT TO DO WHAT

EVERYBODY HAS AGREED ON TONIGHT,

WHICH IS THAT WE HAVE TO

PRIORITIZE

WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS

IS GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN

WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE FORCE

OF NATURE CAUSING A RISE IN TH

WATER TABLE AND THAT IS

PERMANENT AND GROWING THREAT T

THE COASTAL AREAS AND WE NEED

PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND SOME GUT

ON THE PART OF THE PEOPLE IN

POLITICS TO MAKE THE DECISIONS

TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT THEIR

PRIORITIES ARE AND NOT JUST SI

AND WAIT UNTIL SOMETHING ELS

BAD HAPPENS AGAIN.

>> JOHN CAMERON, WHERE DOES LONG

ISLAND GO FROM HERE?

>> LONG ISLAND NEEDS TO PLAN

SMARTLY, AND IT NEEDS TO HAV

THE COURAGE TO IMPLEMENT THE

DIFFICULT DECISION

GOVERNMENTALLY AND INDIVIDUALLY,

AND FRANKLY, OUR CHILDREN, THEIR

FUTURE AND THEIR QUALITY O

THEIR LIVES DEPEND UPON THOS

DECISIONS AS WELL AS OUR

GRANDCHILDREN.

WE NEED TO MAKE THOSE DIFFICUL

DECISIONS AND TO MAKE SURE THA

THEY HAPPEN.

>> BILL ULFELDER, WHERE DO WE GO

FROM HERE?

>> THESE ARE ALL GREAT POINT

BUT IT'S FLEXIBILITY

SOME PLACES IT IS HARD SOLUTIONS

AND BUILT AND OTHER PLACES IT'

SOFTER AND OTHER PLACES IT'S

MAKING WAY FOR NATURE AND PEOPLE

WHO ARE LOOKING TO RELOCATE AN

PLACE THEMSELVES OUT OF HARM'S

WAY, THAT THEY HAVE THOS

OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT A

WELL

SO I THINK A KEY IS REALLY A

FLEXIBLE APPROACH.

>> AND RALPH LAROSSA LAST ROAD

>> I HEARD THERE'S A NEW

REALITY, WE HAD IRENE, WE HA

SANDY, FREAK SNOWSTORMS, WE HAVE

TO EMBRACE THE NEW REALITY AND

HAVE THE EMERGENCY PLANS I

PLACE, AND WE HAVE TO STEP U

AND DO THINGS THAT HAVE TO B

DONE RIGHT NOW

WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR SOMEBODY

TO FIX THE SUBSTATION FEEDIN

THE REFINEIES AND PRIORITIZE I

PLACE AND EXECUTE ON A PLAN.

>> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF

THE PLANS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOUR PLAN IS A $4 BILLION PLAN

FOR WHERE WE GO FROM HERE?

>> JUST OVER $5 BILLION AN

SPANS FROM THE SUBSTATIONS I

TALKED ABOUT IN THE BEGINNING TO

COMMUNICATIONS AND THE CUSTOME

IN A WAY THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE

INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR HOME NOT

JUST GENTLEMENER IN EK

INFORMATION.

>> MAYOR ZIMMER?

>> WE FOCUS ON BECOMING MORE I

HERESILIENT.

BECOME IF YOU CAN BE PREPARE

YOU CAN BE MORE PREPARED AND W

WANT TO HAVE PLANS FOR GETTING

PEOPLE TO MOVE THEIR CARS AN

PEOPLE JUST LISTENING TO US AN

MOVING THEIR CARS AND ALSO WHE

YOU THINK ABOUT THE REBUILDING

EFFORTS, THE NEW STANDARDS THA

WE CAN PUT IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE

THAT AGAIN THOSE ELEVATORS

OPERATE, THE HALLWAY LIGHT

OPERATE, THE EXIT LIGHTS

OPERATE, THE COMMUNITY ROOMS

HAVE LIGHTS, THOSE ARE THING

THAT WE CAN PUT THOSE STANDARD

IN PLACE AND HOPEFULLY THERE

WILL BE GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE TO

MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN SO THAT

IN THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT PEOPL

CAN SHELTER WITHIN THEIR HOMES

>> BUT YOU SAID IF AND GRANT

AND MONEY.

ARE YOU OPTIMISTIC YOU CAN GET

ON

>> WE CERTAINLY HAVE HAD A

TREMENDOUS RESPONSE ON OUR

COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE

TEAM

JUST COMPLETED A TRAININ

PROGRAM AND EXPANDED A TRAININ

PROGRAM AND WE'LL BE EDUCATING

THE PUBLIC HOW THEY CAN BE

PREPARED STAYING IN THE HOME AND

AS PEOPLE COME IN TO GET PERMITS

AND REBUILDING WE'RE ADVOCATIN

FOR THEM TO BUILD HIGHER AND

STRONGER AND I'M CERTAINLY DOW

TALKING TO EVERYONE IN TRENTON

I THINK THEY'RE TIRED OF SEEIN

ME

>> ON THAT NOTE WE HAVE TO LEAVE

IT THERE

PLEASE CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION

WITH US ON TWITTER USING

#SANDYTOWNHALL AND AS SOON AS WE

SIGN OFF HERE PLEASE SIGN ON T

SANDYTOWNHALL.ORG AND CHAT WIT

CURRENTLY JOHN BOULE

WE THANK MONMOUTH UNIVERSITY AND

THE PRESIDENT PAUL GAFFNEY, AL

OUR MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS AND WNET

STUDIOS IN NEW YORK CITY AND OUR

LIVE AUD YENS WHO WERE S

RESPECTFUL AND ASKED SUC

WONDERFUL QUESTIONS HERE IN NE

JERSEY AND OF COURSE TO NEW YORK

CITY

ON A PERSONAL NOTE FOR THOUGH US

OF AT THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT

HAVE PUT ON THIS PROGRAM TONIGHT

WE TRULY APPRECIATE TH

OPPORTUNITY TO COME INTO YOU

HOMES, TO PROVIDE THIS KIND OF

INFORMATION AND TO INTERACT WITH

YOU.

IT IS A PRIVILEGE FOR US TO BE

ABLE TO COVER THIS STORY OF THIS

REGION AND THE PRIVILEGE AS WELL

TO COVER THE RECOVERY AS WE MOVE

AHEAD.

I'M MIKE SCHNEIDER

THANKS VERY MUCH FOR WATCHING US

AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

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