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MetroFocus: October 10, 2018
A grim warning was issued by the United Nations on climate change. A budget brawl in the Garden State adds tension to a widening rift in New Jersey’s State House, putting Gov. Phil Murphey at odds with his own party. Queens is known as the birthplace of religious freedom in America. Our “Frontline to Home Front” series hits home with roughly 500,000 veterans and their families living in the city.
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HISTORIC HURRICANE MICHAEL HEADS
NORTH, ONE LOCAL GROUP OFFERS
ADVICE TO NEW YORK'S ELECTED
OFFICIALS ON THE CHANGES NEEDED
TO COMBAT THE COMING CLIMATE
CRISIS STATEWIDE.
A BUDGET BRAWL IN THE GARDEN
STATE, A DEEPENING DIVIDE IN THE
NEW JERSEY STATE HOUSE, A
GOVERNOR AT ODDS WITH HIS OWN
PARTY.
STEVE ADUBATO HAS THE DETAILS.
>>> FROM RELIGIOUS MELTING POT
TO THE "CITY OF GODS," QUEENS IS
KNOWN AS THE BIRTH PLACE OF
AMERICAN RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
FIND OUT WHICH NEIGHBORHOOD IN
THAT BOROUGH IS THE MOST
ETHNICALLY DIVERSE.
>>> OUR "FRONTLINE" SERIES
CONTINUES.
WITH ROUGHLY 500,000 VETERANS
AND THEIR FAMILIES LIVING IN NEW
YORK CITY, WE MEET A GROUP THAT
IS TRYING TO SERVE ALL OF THEM.
OUR LOOK AT THE NEW YORK CITY
VETERANS ALLIANCE IS JUST AHEAD.
>>> THOSE STORIES AND MORE AS
"METROFOCUS" STARTS RIGHT NOW.
♪
>> THIS IS "METROFOCUS" WITH
RAPHAEL P. RAMON, JACK FORD, AND
JENNA FLANAGAN.
"METROFOCUS" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY
JAMES AND MERRILL TISH.
SUE AND EDGAR WALK ENHEIM III.
BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARZ.
ROSELYN P. WALTER.
BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG.
AND BY --
CORPORATE FUNDING FOR
"METROFOCUS" WAS PROVIDED BY
MUTUAL OF AMERICA, YOUR
RETIREMENT COMPANY.
AND BY PSE&G, SERVING CUSTOMERS,
STRENGTHENING THE BUSINESS
COMMUNITY, AND INVESTING IN THE
FUTURE.
>> GEEK, AND WELCOME TO
"METROFOCUS."
I'M RAPHAEL P. RAMON.
IT WILL BE A STORMY NIGHT FOR
THOUSANDS AS HURRICANE MICHAEL
MOVES NORTH.
IT'S BEEN OVER 100 YEARS SINCE A
HURRICANE OF MICHAEL'S STRENGTH
HAS MADE LANDFALL ON THE FLORIDA
PANHANDLE AND ONLY THE THIRD
HURRICANE TO HIT THE PANHANDLE
SINCE THE 1950s.
THE DAMAGE OF WHAT IS EXPECTED
TO BE A STORM SURGE IN MICHAEL'S
WAKE WILL BE DETERMINED IN THE
COMING HOURS.
HURRICANE MICHAEL HITS JUST DAYS
AFTER THE OTHER UNITED NATIONS
RELEASED AID DIRE PREDICTION.
ON MONDAY THE WORLD'S BODY INTER
GOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE
CHANGE SHARED ITS RECENT
FINDINGS THAT WARNED THAT UNLESS
IMMEDIATE CHANGES GO INTO EFFECT
ACROSS THE GLOBE, THE WORLD WILL
SEE FOOD SHORTAGES, COASTAL
FLOODING, WORSENING WILDFIRES
AND A MASS DIE OFF OF OUR CORAL
REEFS BY 2040.
ITS A AUTHORIZES WARNED ALL OF
US MAY, QUOTE, MAY REACH RAPID
IN FAR REACHES IN ORDER TO SAVE
THE PLANET.
THE NEW YORK LEAGUE OF
CONSERVATION VOTERS CONSIDERS
THE ENVIRONMENT A PARAMOUNT
ISSUE WHEN ENTERING THE VOTING
BOOTH.
PERIL AND PROMISE, THE CHALLENGE
OF CLIMATE CHANGE, JACK FORD
RECENTLY SPOKE WITH THE LEAGUE'S
PRESIDENT MARCY A BISTRAND.
HE BEGAN BY ASKING ABOUT HER
ORGANIZATION.
>> IT'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S
BEEN AROUND ABOUT 25 YEARS.
AND IT'S A STATEWIDE
ORGANIZATION, SO WE'RE INVOLVED
ACROSS THE STATE.
AND WE WORK TO ELECT STRONG
CANDIDATES ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
WE HAVE AN ADVOCACY AGENDA.
WE WORK TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO
MOVE THAT AGENDA FORWARD.
>> AS I SAID IN THE
INTRODUCTION, NONPARTISAN?
>> NONPARTISAN.
>> SO, HOW, THEN, DO YOU -- AND
I'M GOING TO GET TO SOME ISSUES
IN A SECOND.
BUT TAKE ME THROUGH THE PROCESS,
THEN, OF IDENTIFYING CANDIDATES,
OF QUESTIONING CANDIDATES, AND
THEN ULTIMATELY AN ORGANIZATION
SAYING THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT WE
CAN GET BEHIND?
>> WE HAVE A VERY TRANSPARENT
PROCESS.
I THINK THAT IS EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT ON ISSUES LIKE THIS.
EVERY YEAR -- LET'S JUST TAKE
THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
EVERY YEAR WE LAYOUT WHAT OUR
AGENDA IS FOR THE LEGISLATURE.
WE ADVOCATE FOR IT.
WE TRACK PERFORMANCE OF THE
LEGISLATORS ON THAT AGENDA.
WE ISSUE A SCORE CARD AT THE END
OF THE SESSION THAT RANKS THE
LEGISLATORS ON THE BASIS OF
WHETHER THEY ADVANCE THAT AGENDA
OR NOT.
THEY SUBMIT A QUESTIONNAIRE IF
THEY WANT OUR ENDORSEMENT.
WE LOOK AT THE QUESTIONNAIRE.
WE MEET WITH THEM.
WE INTERVIEW THEM.
AND ON THE BASIS OF ALL OF THAT,
OUR BOARD DECIDES WHETHER
THEY'RE GOING TO ENDORSE THEM OR
NOT.
AND WE ENDORSE CANDIDATES.
AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER LEVEL
OF THE UNIVERSE OF CANDIDATES WE
ENDORSE, A SUBSET WE INVEST IN.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVE A PAC AS
WELL.
>> OKAY.
LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME ISSUES
THAT ARE OUT THERE.
>> SURE.
>> THAT IMPACT FOLKS WHO LIVE IN
THIS AREA.
WE'VE SEEN THE NOTION OF BANNING
PLASTIC BAGS, SORT OF BATTED
ABOUT IN THE POLITICAL ARENA.
WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON THAT AND
HOW IT SHOULD BE HANDLED?
>> WELL, I DON'T THINK SAM AND
THE LEAGUE ADVOCATED FOR THIS,
OF PUTTING A FEE ON BAGS.
NOT BANNING THEM, BUT PUTTING A
FEE ON BOTH PLASTIC AND PAPER
BAGS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THEY DO IN
LONDON, THEY DO IN PARIS, THEY
DO IT IN MONTREAL AND SUFFOLK
COUNTY.
WHAT IT IS, IT MAKES CONSUMERS
THINK BEFORE THEY ASK FOR A BAG.
IT IS A WAY OF MINIMIZING THE
WASTE, NOT ONLY WE HAVE TO
DISPOSE OF, BUT THE COST, FOR
EXAMPLE, TO THE CITY OF MANAGING
THAT WASTE.
>> AND THE FEE WOULD GO WHERE?
>> THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TRICKY
THINGS ABOUT NEW YORK STATE.
IF WE CAN GET THE STATE TO PASS
THIS, THEN THE MONEY COULD BE
USED FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION FUND.
IF THE CITY DOES IT ALONE AND
THE PAC WILL PASS LEGISLATION
ALONG THESE LINES, THE MONEY
WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE RETAILER
BECAUSE NEW YORK STATE WOULD
CONSIDER THAT TAXING WITHOUT
GOING THROUGH --
>> IT WOULD STILL HAVE THE
IMPACT THAT YOU WANT, WHICH IS
TO MAKE PEOPLE THINK.
>> EXACTLY.
ONCE AGAIN, MOST OF THE WORLD
THAT WE TRAVEL IN DOES THIS
ALREADY.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK THE
PROSPECT IS FOR THAT BEING --
>> IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT
THE GOVERNOR DECIDES, QUITE
FRANKLY.
YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR IS AN
INTERESTING YEAR IN ALBANY,
RIGHT?
THE ODDS ARE THAT THE GOVERNOR
WILL BE GOVERNOR AGAIN -- I'M
NOT PREDICTING, BUT THOSE ARE
THE ODDS.
BUT WHO IS GOING TO CONTROL THE
LEGISLATURE?
WHO IS GOING TO CONTROL THE
SENATE?
SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO NEED
STRONG LEADERSHIP.
AND I KNOW THE LEAGUE IS GOING
TO BE PUSHING THIS ALONG WITH A
HOST OF OTHER THINGS.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT ANOTHER ISSUE
THAT GETS A LOT OF ATTENTION
BECAUSE IT POPS UP PERIODICALLY
AND THAT'S THE IDEA OF
CONGESTION PRICING IN THIS CITY.
WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON THAT?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW,
TRANSPORTATION IS AN
ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE.
IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE
BECAUSE OF EMISSIONS THAT COME
OFF OF CARS.
AND AS WE ALL KNOW, THE MTA IS
POORLY FUNDED AND CONGESTION
PRICING IS A WAY IN WHICH WE CAN
RAISE MONEY FOR THE MTA AND AT
THE SAME TIME MINIMIZE TRAFFIC
CONGESTION.
WE SUPPORT IT.
>> YOU DO?
WHAT DO YOU THINK PROSPECTS ARE?
>> I THINK THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS
TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE MTA.
I THINK HE'S UNDER SO MUCH
ATTACK ON THIS RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, PART OF HIS IMAGE IS
THE CAN-DO INFRASTRUCTURE GUY,
RIGHT?
THE TAPPAN ZEE BRIDGE, LAGUARDIA
AIRPORT.
THE FACT HE APPEARS TO BE
FAILING ON MASS TRANSIT IS
SOMETHING I DON'T THINK HE'S
GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET AWAY
WITH ANY LONGER.
SO I THINK THERE WILL BE A STEP.
>> WHAT ADVICE CAN YOU GIVE TO
OUR VIEWERS WHO ARE WATCHING,
LISTENING TO THIS CONVERSATION,
WELL, THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO DO
ALL THIS STUFF?
WHAT KIND OF ADVICE CAN YOU GIVE
TO PRIVATE CITIZENS, THINGS WE
CAN DO?
>> I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WHAT YOU
EXPECT MOW TO SAY.
ALL GOOD THINGS, TURN OFF YOUR
LIGHTS, THAT KIND OF THING.
IT'S POLITICS.
YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU
CARE FOR.
YOU HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT'S
GOING ON WITH GOVERNMENT, WITH
YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND GET
INVOLVED.
THAT'S WHAT THEY SHOULD DO.
CHECK OUR WEBSITE, WWW.NYL.TV.
>> IT IS A PLEASURE TALKING TO
YOU, GETTING A SENSE OF WHAT
YOU'RE DOING.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO TALK WITH YOU
DOWN THE ROAD AS ALL OF THESE
ISSUES CONTINUE TO PERCOLATE.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> THANKS FOR JOINING US.
>> SURE T' BEEN FUN.
THANKS.
>> A BUDGET BRAWL OVER THE
SUMMER IN NEW JERSEY HAS LED TO
A DEEPENING DIVIDE IN THE STATE
HOUSE BETWEEN THE ROOKIE
DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR PHIL MURPHY
AND THE VETERAN DEMOCRATIC
PRESIDENT OF THE STATE SENATE,
STEVE SWEENEY.
ALTHOUGH A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN
WAS BARELY AVOIDED THANKS TO A
LAST-MINUTE DEAL, THE BATTLE
FURTHER FRACTURED THE
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MURPHY AND
MEMBERS OF HIS OWN PARTY.
LESS THAN A YEAR AFTER THE
FORMER WALL STREET MILLIONAIRE
WAS SWORN INTO OFFICE.
TOUGH STUFF, BUT CERTAINLY NOT
THE FIRST TIME SERIOUS TENSIONS
HAVE EMERGED BETWEEN A NEW
JERSEY GOVERNOR AND LEADERS OF
HIS OWN PARTY IN THE
LEGISLATURE.
AND JOINING US NOW TO PUT IT ALL
IN PERSPECTIVE IS THE ANCHOR OF
THE STATE OF AFFAIRS AND
"METROFOCUS" CONTRIBUTOR, STEVE
ADUBATO.
WELCOME BACK.
>> MY PLEASURE, RALPH.
>> STEVE, HOW DO THE HOSTILITIES
BETWEEN SWEENEY AND MURPHY
EVOLVE?
>> THEY DON'T LIKE TO SAY THIS
PUBLICLY, BUT MY POINT OF VIEW,
SOME OF 24S PERSONAL.
STEVE SWEENEY IS A VERY POWERFUL
PRESIDENT OF THE STATE SENATE,
ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL IN THE
HISTORY OF THE STATE SINCE THE
1947 CONSTITUTION.
HE WANTED TO BE GOVERNOR.
HE WAS PREPARED TO RUN FOR
GOVERNOR.
HAD IT LINED UP IN SOME PEOPLE'S
MINDS.
PHIL MURPHY COMES N NOT
ORIGINALLY FROM NEW JERSEY.
PUTS UP A LOT OF MONEY AND SAYS,
I WILL FUND MY OWN CAMPAIGN.
MANY DEMOCRATIC PARTY OFFICIALS
SAID, SWEENEY, WE KNOW YOU'VE
BEEN OUT THERE A LONG TIME IN
THE LEGISLATE UFR, A JERSEY GUY,
IF YOU WILL.
MURPHY IS GOING TO FUND THE
CAMPAIGN.
WE DON'T HAVE TO RAISE MONEY FOR
HIM.
I THINK IT REALLY BOTHERED STEVE
SWEENEY PERSONALLY AND HE'S
TRYING TO SHOW HIS STRENGTH
RIGHT NOW.
>> THIS HOSTILITY AS I SAID IN
THE INTRODUCTION BETWEEN THE
GOVERNOR AND LEADERS OF HIS OWN
PARTY IN THE LEGISLATURE,
NOTHING NEW.
IT'S A HISTORY EVENT.
>> WHAT'S IRONIC ABOUT THIS IS
THAT JOHN CORZINE, THE LAST
DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR WHO HAPPENED
TO BE FROM GOLD UP --
>> FAMILIAR FROM WALL STREET,
YEAH.
>> DIDN'T UNDERSTAND JERSEY VERY
WELL IN MY OPINION.
YOU AND I INTERVIEWED HIM MANY
TIMES ON OUR PREVIOUS SHOW.
NICE GUY, BUT DIDN'T UNDERSTAND
RETAIL POLITICS IN NERZ I.
DIDN'T RELAEL TO MEMBERS OF THE
POLITICS IN JERSEY.
I SEE SOME OF THE PATTERNS.
I THINK MURPHY IS ENGAGING AND
PERSONABLE.
HE HAD A HARD TIME WITH THE
DEMOCRATS IN THE LEGISLATURE.
THEY DIDN'T CONNECT WITH EACH
OTHER.
IT'S RETAIL POLITICS.
IF YOU DON'T CONNECT WITH
MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE IN
YOUR OWN PARTY ON A AMERICANAL
LEVEL, BARACK OBAMA START TODAY
LEARN THAT ABOUT DEMOCRATS AS
WELL.
THE FACT IS THE DEMOCRATS WHO
ARE NOT FROM JERSEY WHO DON'T
COME FROM THE LEGISLATURE, WHO
DON'T UNDERSTAND JERSEY VERY
WELL, DON'T DO THAT WELL WITH
THEIR OWN PARTY.
>> HE'S FROM BOSTON, RIGHT?
>> HE'S A BOSTON MILLIONAIRE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MURPHY.
>> YEAH.
HE'S A BOSTON MILLIONAIRE,
RIGHT?
>> NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
>> BUT WE'RE HERE IN NEW YORK
CITY.
WE HAD A BOSTON MILLIONAIRE WHO
BECAME A VERY SUCCESSFUL MAYOR.
>> BLOOMBERG, RIGHT?
>> WHAT DID HE DO THAT MURPHY
HAS NOT DONE?
>> I DEFER TO YOU WHEN IT COMES
TO NEW YORK POLITICS.
>> HE WASN'T A RETAIL GUY
EITHER.
>> I TELL YOU THIS, BEING
GOVERNOR IS NOT THE SAME AS
BEING MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW POWERFUL THE
CITY COUNCIL IS, BUT IN THE
STATE LEGISLATURE, IT'S SO
INTERESTING.
ONE OF THE GOVERNORS YOU AND I
ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IF WE
HAVE A MINUTE IS TOM KAINE.
TOM KAINE'S PIECE OF ADVICE TO
CHRIS CHRISTIE, A REPUBLICAN
GOVERNOR IN THE '80s.
HE WAS ALSO THE FORMER SPEAKER
OF THE HOUSE WHEN THE
REPUBLICANS DIDN'T CONTROL THE
MAJORITY, THE DEMOCRATS DID.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
HE TOLD CHRIS CHRISTIE WHEN
CHRISTY BECAME GOVERNOR, HE
ASKED HIM, CHRIS, WHO IS YOUR
BEST FRIEND?
CHRIS CHRISTIE SAID, MY WIFE
MARY PAT.
HE GOES, NOT FOR THE NEXT FOUR
OR EIGHT YEARS.
YOUR BEST FRIEND IS STEVE
SWEENEY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE
SENATE.
BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE
BEST RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM, EVEN
THOUGH HE'S A DEMOCRAT, CHRISTY
WAS REPUBLICAN, YOU WON'T GET
ANYTHING DONE.
>> HE DID AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST
TERM, UNTIL BRIDGE GATE ANYWAY.
THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MURPHY
AND SWEENEY LIKELY TO GET
BETTER, GOOD NEWS?
>> YOU AND I TALK ABOUT
POLITICS.
WE AND THE FOLKS AT "METROFOCUS"
WHO WATCH IT, ARE ALSO
INTERESTED IN THE POLICY.
IF THE DEMOCRATS, THE SPEAKER OF
THE ASSEMBLY CRAIG COUGH LYNN --
NEW GUY THERE --
>> WHAT'S HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH
MURPHY?
>> IT'S OKAY.
IT'S NOT THE SAME AS SWEENEY'S.
HERE'S MY POINT.
IF THE TWO MEMBERS OF THE SENATE
AND ASSEMBLY DOESN'T GET ALONG
WITH THE GOVERNOR, GOVERNOR
DOESN'T GET ALONG WITH THEM,
THAT'S NOT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
INSIDE BASEBALL.
THAT STOPS GOVERNMENT.
THAT STOPS POLICY FROM MOVING
FORWARD.
THE PEOPLE OF NEW JERSEY NEED
THE LEADERS OF THE LEGISLATURE
AND THE GOEFRP TO GET ALONG FOR
THE STATE TO WORK WELL.
YOU HAVE TRANSIT ISSUES.
YOU HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES.
YOU HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL EISSUES,
ENERGY ISSUES.
IT'S NOT WHAT THEY WANT TO RAISE
TAXES.
THEY HAVE TO GET IT TOGETHER.
IN MY OPINION PHIL MURPHY HAS TO
SIT DOWN AND ASK HIMSELF HOW
MUCH DO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND
THESE GUYS AND INTERACT WITH
THEM ON A PERSONAL LEVEL?
THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND MUR 23I
COMES FROM A DIFFERENT
BACKGROUND.
IF THEY DON'T DO THAT, THERE IS
GOING TO BE A STALEMATE FOR A
LONG TIME.
THAT'S NOT GOOD NEWS FOR NEW
JERSEY.
>> WHAT'S YOUR BEST GUESS?
>> I'M HOPEFUL.
I LIKE TO BE AN OPTIMIST.
I'M CATHOLIC AND I'LL SAY A
PRAYER.
>> STEVE, THANKS SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, RALPH.
♪
♪
>> KNOWN LOCALLY AS THE BIRTH
PLACE OF AMERICAN RELIGIOUS
FREEDOM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF
FLUSHING QUEENS IS NOW SO
DIVERSE THAT IT HAS BECOME A
MICROCOSM OF WORLD RELIGIONS.
ACCORDING TO CENSUS STATISTICS,
QUEENS ITSELF IS NOW THE MOST
ETHNICALLY DIVERSE COUNTY IN THE
NATION.
AND AS FAR AS RELIGIOUS
DIVERSITY IS CONCERNED IN
FLUSHING ALONE WHICH STRETCHES
NO MORE THAN 2.5 SQUARE MILES,
THEY ARE CURRENTLY NEARLY 200
DIFFERENT PLACES OF WORSHIP.
IN HIS NEW BOOK "CITY OF GODS,"
AUTHOR R. SCOTT HANSON DOCUMENTS
THE CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES AND
MOSQUES OF THE FLUSHING SKYLINE
AND RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES THAT
CALL THIS NEW YORK ENCLAVE HOME.
PRO VESER HANSON JOINS US NOW.
PROFESSOR, WELCOME TO THE
PROGRAM.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I WONDER IF YOU CAN ELABORATE
HOW RELIGIOUSLY DIVERSE IS
FLUSHING/QUEENS.
>> THERE ARE OVER 200 RELIGIONS
DENSELY CONCENTRATE ED IN THIS
DIVERSE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
THERE ARE SIX HINDU TEMPLES,
SEVERAL MOSQUES, SYNAGOGUES,
BUDDHIST TEMPLES, OVER 100
KOREAN CHURCHES ALONE, AND SOME
OF THE OLDEST OTHER CHURCHES AND
SYNAGOGUES IN THE CITY.
>> IMMIGRATION IS WHAT'S
DRIVING, IMMIGRATION AND THE
IMMIGRANTS THAT FOUND RESIDENCE
IN FLUSHING IS WHAT DRIVES THIS
RELIGIOUS PURELYISM.
LET ME ASK YOU, THE RELIGIOUS
PLURALISM THAT YOU FIND IN
FLUSHING IS IT A QUILT LIKE EACH
RELIGION IS A DISTINCT CITY NEXT
TO A DISTINCT PIECE OR A MELTING
POT WHERE IT KEEPS ITS FLAVOR
AND UNITES TO FORM A MORE TASTY
STEW?
>> SO MANY -- THE MELTING POTS
COME -- I LIKE TO THINK OF IT
MORE AS A MOSAIC OR PATCH WORK
OR SYMPHONY EVEN.
BUT IN FLUSHING, YOU DO SEE
VARIOUS ETHNIC ENCLAVES OR PARTS
THAT ARE MORE KOREAN OR CHINESE
OR INDIAN.
BUT BECAUSE IT'S NEW YORK AND
THERE IS' NOT MUCH SPACE, PEOPLE
MIX QUITE A BIT.
>> INCREASINGLY SO?
INCREASINGLY SO?
>> THEY DO.
>> SECOND GENERATION AND THIRD
GENERATION PROBABLY EVEN MORE.
>> RIGHT, THEY BUMP INTO EACH
OTHER ON THE SUBWAY, THE
ELEVATOR AND SO ON.
>> SURE.
>> AND THEY MAY NOT INTERACT A
GREAT DEAL ALWAYS, BUT AT LEAST
THEY TOLERATE AND ARE AWARE OF
EACH OTHER.
>> YOU KNOW, AS YOU WRITE THE
FAMOUS THEOLOGIAN, JESUITS
THEOLOGIAN ONCE ASKED, HOW MUCH
PLURALISM, AND WHAT KIND OF
PLURALISM CAN A PLURALIST
SOCIETY STAND?
HOW DOES THE FLUSHING EXPERIENCE
HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION?
>> RIGHT.
MURRY WROTE AT A VERY DIFFERENT
TIME IN 1960 WHEN -- AT A TIME
THE COUNTRY WAS LARGELY
PROTESTANT CATHOLIC JEWISH,
WHITE AND BLACK.
HE WAS TAPPED TO WORKTIME, DIFFT
CIRCUMSTANCES.
BUT I THINK IT'S MORE RELEVANT
TODAY IN A PLACE LIKE FLUSHING
AND ALSO INCREASING RELIGIOUS
DIVERSITY IN AMERICA, TOO.
WHAT I'VE LEARNED IN STUDYING
FLUSHING FOR MANY YEARS IS THAT
ANY COMMUNITY LIKE FLUSHING AND
ELSEWHERE AROUND THE COUNTRY CAN
ACCOMMODATE AND ABSORB A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RELIGIOUS
DIVERSITY AND STILL TURN OUT
OKAY.
THERE ARE GROWING PAINS.
PARKING IS AN ISSUE.
ON THE WEEKENDS YOU MIGHT
IMAGINE WHEN PEOPLE COME TO
WORSHIP AND SHOP AND SO ON, IT'S
PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST
ISSUES.
THERE ARE SOCIAL LIMITS, I SAID.
NEW YORKERS LIKE THEIR PRIVACY.
THEY MAY BE AWARE OF OTHERS, BUT
THEY STILL WANT THEIR PRIVACY
AND THEY MAY NOT ALWAYS INTERACT
IN MEANINGFUL WAYS.
NOT -- YOU KNOW, THERE ARE
CERTAINLY EXCEPTIONS.
MANY PEOPLE ENJOY MEETING PEOPLE
FROM DIFFERENT RELIGIONS AND
CULTURES AND SO FORTH, RIGHT?
THERE ARE ALSO LIMITS OF RACE
AND ETHNICITY.
THERE ARE PARTS OF FLUSHING THAT
ARE SEGREGATED.
THERE ARE ETHNIC ENCLAVES THAT
WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT.
THERE ARE THEOLOGICAL LIMITS AS
WELL.
SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT INTERESTED
IN SPEAKING TO A MUSLIM IF THEY
ARE AN EVANGELICAL
FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIAN.
THEY WOULD RATHER CONVERT THEM,
RIGHT?
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE LIMITS.
BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT PEOPLE
CAN LIVE TOGETHER IN CIVIL
COEXISTENCE.
>> AS WORLD HISTORY HAS TAUGHT
US UNFORTUNATELY, DIVERSE
PLACES, EVEN AS DIVERSE -- MAYBE
NOT AS DIVERSE AS
FLUSHING/QUEENS, BUT A GREAT
DEAL OF RELIGIOUS DIVERSITY CAN
TURN INTO A -- HOW DOES THAT
HAPPEN AND HOW DO WE AVOID?
>> HOW HOW DO WE AVOID --
>> WHEN RELIGIOUS COMITY BREAKS
DOWN.
>> GOT YOU.
I THINK PLACES ARE BEGINNING TO
EXPERIENCE RAPID DEMOGRAPHIC
CHANGE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE
MOST AFRAID OF THE OTHER AND OF
RELIGIOUS DIFFERENCE AND ETHNIC
DIFFERENCE.
YOU SAW PARTS OF THE COUNTRY
THAT VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY FOR
PRESIDENT TRUMP THAT WERE
CHARACTERIZED TO SOME EXTENT BY
THAT NATURE, THIS KIND OF LOSS
OR NOSTALGIA FOR KIND OF A CIRCA
1940s, EARLY '50s WHITE
PROTESTANT AMERICA THAT IS
CHANGING.
IN FACT, PRESIDENT TRUMP HIMSELF
IS FROM QUEENS IRONICALLY.
AND WOULDN'T RECOGNIZE IT IN
SOME WAYS TODAY.
MIGHT BE AFRAID OF THAT
DIVERSITY IN SOME WAYS.
BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT MAKES
AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, DIVERSITY
AND IMMIGRATION.
>> ALL RIGHT.
WELL, PROFESSOR, YOUR BOOK IS
"CITY OF GODS," RELIGIOUS
FREEDOM, IMMIGRATION AND
PLURALISM.
FLUSHING/QUEENS, A GREAT READ
FOR THIS DAY AND AGE.
THANK YOU, PRO PERCENT.
♪
♪
>> DID YOU KNOW HALF A MILLION
VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILY
MEMBERS LIVE IN THE FIVE
BOROUGHS IN THIS PART OF OUR
SIERZ, "FRONTLINE TO HOME
FRONT," WE'RE INVESTIGATING THE
ISSUES THAT MATTER MOST TO OUR
VETERANS WHO OFTEN FACE A
DAUNTING CHALLENGE TRANSITIONING
TO CIVILIAN LIFE.
FROM VA HEALTH CARE CUTBACKS AND
REPORTS OF SUBSTANDARD CARE TO
EMPLOYMENT AND SOCIAL PROGRAMS,
MONTHLY MEETINGS, THE NYC
VETERANS ALLIANCE STAFFED AND
LED BY VETERANS HAS BEEN WORKING
TO SUPPORT THEIR OWN FELLOWS.
JOINING US TONIGHT WITH THEIR
STORY, THE STORIES OF OTHERS WHO
HAVE GIVEN SO MUCH FOR THE
COUNTRY, NYC VETERANS ALLIANCE
FOUNDER KRISTIN ROUSE AND ADRIAN
BRAMER, BOTH OF WHOM HAVE SERVED
THEIR COUNTRIES.
WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU WITH
US.
CHRIS, I'LL START WITH YOU, AS
SOMEONE INVOLVED IN THE
CREATION, HOW DID THIS
ORGANIZATION GET STARTED AND WHY
DID IT GET STARTED?
>> SO, YOU KNOW, FIRST THANKS SO
MUCH FOR HAVING US ON HERE AND
FOR BRINGING US ON TO TELL OUR
STORY.
>>> WHEN I CAME HOME FROM MY
THIRD TOUR OF DUTY IN
AFGHANISTAN, I CAME HOME IN
EARLY 2013 AND I KNOW THAT I
NEEDED HELP CONNECTING WITH
OTHER VETERANS AND REALLY LIKE
FINDING THE COMMUNITY AND THE
SUPPORT THAT I NEEDED TO FEEL
LIKE I WAS BACK HOME IN NEW YORK
CITY.
AND IT WAS A STRUGGLE TO FIND
INFORMATION.
AND ALSO AS SOMEBODY WHO IS
PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT'S
HAPPENING AT CITY -- IN CITY
GOVERNMENT AS WELL AS STATE
GOVERNMENT AS WELL AS WHAT'S
HAPPENING NATIONALLY, I NOTICED
THAT VETERANS AND FAMILY MEMBERS
WERE BARELY A POLITICAL
AFTERTHOUGHT IN OUR CITY
GOVERNMENT AT THAT TIME.
THERE WAS A VERY, A VERY TINY
MAYORAL OFFICE THAT WAS
DEDICATED TO VETERANS AT THAT
TIME.
AND I LOOKED AROUND AND TALKED
WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR
VETERANS COMMUNITY AND OTHER
ADVOCATES, OLDER VETERANS WHO
HAD BEEN PAYING ATTENTION FOR
SOMETIME.
AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE QUITE A
NUMBER OF VETERANS IN THE NEW
YORK METRO AREA, WE'RE NOT
REALLY CONCENTRATED LIKE IN
OTHER STATES, LIKE TEXAS, YOU
KNOW, OR OTHER LOCATIONS THAT
ARE MUCH MORE FOCUSED ON TALKING
ABOUT VETERANS AND TALKING ABOUT
MILITARY SERVICE.
AND SO WE'RE MORE SPREAD OUT
HERE IN NEW YORK.
AND NEW YORK IS ALSO HOME OF
EVERYTHING.
SO IT'S -- IT WAS REALLY
IMPORTANT AT THAT TIME TO START
SHIFTING THE FOCUS TO VETERANS,
TO THE MILITARY, TO MILITARY
SERVICE, TO THOSE OF US WHO HAVE
BEEN DEPLOYED.
SOME OF US MANY TIMES IN OUR
POST-9/11 WARS.
AS WELL AS BRING MORE
RECOGNITION TO THE VETERANS WHO
SERVED IN EARLIER ERAS TO
INCLUDE THE COLD WAR, TO INCLUDE
THE FIRST DESERT STORM, SOMALIA,
OTHER COMPLEX LIKE THE EFFORTS
IN KOSOVO.
THERE ARE A LOT OF VETERANS WHO
FEEL UNRECOGNIZED FOR THEIR
SERVICE.
>> YOU WOULD THINK IN THIS ERA,
WHERE YOU GET ACCESS TO ANYTHING
YOU WANT -- AND SOME THINGS THAT
YOU DON'T WANT, YOU JUST DON'T
GET ACCESS TO.
BUT YOU WOULDN'T IMMEDIATELY
THINK THAT A LACK OF INFORMATION
WOULD BE A REAL ISSUE.
WHY DO YOU THINK IT HAS BEEN A
PROBLEM, HOWEVER?
>> I THINK IT'S THAT IT CAN BE
HARD TO FIND THE INFORMATION
BECAUSE IT'S IN SO MANY PLACES.
SO WHAT MY PART OF THE VETERANS
ALLIANCE IS IS PUTTING
INFORMATION ON OUR VETERANS.NYC
WHICH IS AN INFORMATION HUB,
EVENTS AND RESOURCES FOR
VETERANS --
>> I WENT ON IT, BY THE WAY, TO
LOOK AT IT.
IT'S FASCINATING HOW MUCH YOU
HAVE ON THERE.
>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
WE GET A LOT OF INFORMATION
PASSED TO US FROM THE V.A., FROM
THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN
SERVICES FOR NEW YORK CITY.
A LOT OF DIFFERENT
ORGANIZATIONS, AND IT ALL GOES
TO ONE SPOT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO
SPEND AN HOUR LOOKING FOR
SOMETHING SPECIFIC.
YOU CAN GO RIGHT THERE AND FIND
IT.
WE GET ABOUT -- LAST MONTH WE
HAD 6000 INDIVIDUAL PAGE VIEWS
FOR AUGUST FOR PEOPLE LOOKING
FOR INFORMATION AND RESOURCES.
>> SHE'S POSTED MORE THAN 2,500
EVENTS ON OUR CALENDAR SINCE WE
STARTED IN 2015.
>> THAT'S IMPRESSIVE.
>> THAT'S A LOT.
IT'S A LOT --
>> THAT'S A LOT.
>> TO PROVIDE RESOURCES SO
VETERANS KNOW WHERE TO CONNECT
AND TO FIND A RESOURCE THAT FITS
THEM AND MEETS THEIR NEED.
BUT THE EVENTS THAT WE PUT ON AS
AN ORGANIZATION HAVE SOME KIND
OF CONNECTION TO CIVIC
LEADERSHIP.
WE WANT VETERANS TO BE ENGAGED
IN WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR CITY
GOVERNMENT AND OUR STATE
GOVERNMENT.
WE WANT OUR MEMBERSHIP TO VOTE.
WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THE
POLITICAL PROCESS.
IN NEW YORK CITY WE HISTORICALLY
HAD A VERY LOW VOTER TURNOUT,
BUT OUR MEMBERSHIP IS VERY
ENGAGED.
THEY TELL US IN THE SURVEY THAT
WE'VE DONE NEARLY ALL OF THEM
CONSISTENTLY VOTE IN GENERAL
ELECTIONS AS WELL AS IN
PRIMARIES.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING
VERY SPECIAL, AND IT'S SOMETHING
THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IS
ENERGIZED TO SOLVE PROBLEMS.
VETERANS, BY AND LARGE, WE SIGN
UP FOR SERVICE BECAUSE WE WANT
TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
WE WANT TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY.
WE WANT TO BE PROUD OF DOING
THINGS FOR OTHERS, OF SERVING A
HIGHER PURPOSE.
AND THAT COMMITMENT TO SERVICE,
SOMETIMES PUTTING OUR LIVES ON
THE LINE WHEREVER IT IS THAT WE
SERVED, WE ARE WILLING TO DO
THAT.
WE ARE TRAINED AS LEADERS, WE
ARE TRAINED TO SOLVE PROBLEMS
AND WE WANT TO SOLVE PROBLEMS.
>> I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU, ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT I'VE CERTAINLY
BEEN STRUCK BY, AND WE HAVE AS
PART OF THE SERIES WE'VE BEEN
DOING IS HOW OFTEN WE'RE SEEING
VETERANS LIKE YOURSELVES WHO
VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE TO START
WITH AND ARE CONTINUING TO SERVE
AFTER THEY CAME BACK.
I THINK THE TWO OF YOU ARE JUST
MARVELOUS ILLUSTRATIONS OF THAT.
THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT
THERE BENEFITING.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FIRST FOR
YOUR SERVICE, AND THANK YOU FOR
YOUR CONTINUED SERVICE.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR
GROUP BEING SUCCESSFUL AND WE'LL
CHECK IN WITH YOU AS WE MOVE
DOWN THE ROAD AND SEE HOW YOU'RE
DOING.
BUT THANK YOU BOTH FOR SPENDING
SOME TIME WITH ALL THE WORK
YOU'RE DOING.
AND ALREADY A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT
THERE WHO THANK YOU FOR DOING
SO.
>>> FOR MORE INFORMATION ON
HASLET RANZ NYC ALLIANCE AND
SERIES DETAILING VETERANS POST
9/11, VISIT US AT
METROFOCUS.ORG.
>> "METROFOCUS" IS MADE POSSIBLE
BY JAMES AND MERRILL TISH.
SUE AND EDGAR WALK ENHEIM III.
ROSELYN P. WALTER.
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