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MetroFocus: October 6, 2016

Tonight, we take an in-depth look at the scrutiny surrounding Mayor Bill De Blasio; Brad Trettien of News 12 Long Island discusses his investigation into the crash of TWA 800, and actress and singer Kristin Chenoweth joins us to discuss her dazzling career.

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>>> TONIGHT ON "METROFOCUS," NEW

YORK'S STILL HALL IS ON EDGE

AFTER THE ETHICS PANEL

INVESTIGATING MAYOR DE BLASIO'S

NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION ISSUES A

SWEEPING SUBPOENA.

WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND WHY

IS JUST MOMENTS AWAY.

>>> 20 YEARS AGO, TWA FLIGHT 800

EXPLODED OVER THE ATLANTIC OFF

THE COAST OF LONG ISLAND 12

MINUTES AFTER TAKEOFF FROM JFK.

WE LOOK BACK AT THE TRAGIC EVENT

AND INVESTIGATION THAT FOLLOWED.

WAS FLIGHT 800 THE VICTIM OF A

SEVERE ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING FAR

MORE SINISTER?

>>> AND SHE'S WOWED AUDIENCES ON

STAGE AND SCREEN WITH HER

BOOMING VOICE AND

LARGER-THAN-LIFE PERSONALITY.

THE WICKEDLY TALENTED KRISTEN

CHENOWITH WILL BE HERE TO

DISCUSS WHAT SHE'S BEEN UP TO.

>>> ALL OF THAT AND MORE AS

"METROFOCUS" STARTS RIGHT NOW.

♪♪

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>> Announcer: THIS IS

"METROFOCUS," WITH RAFAEL

DEROMAN, JACK FORD AND JENNA

FLANAGAN.

FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM WAS

PROVIDED BY --

>>> GOOD EVENING, I'M WILLIAM

JONES.

WE CONTINUE OUR SPECIAL

CORRUPTION WATCH COVERAGE HERE

ON "METROFOCUS" TONIGHT.

MAYOR BILL DE BLASIO MAY HAVE

SHUT DOWN HIS NONPROFIT,

CAMPAIGN FOR ONE NEW YORK BACK

IN MARCH.

BUT THE ALLEGATIONS OF

WRONGDOING CONTINUE TO SWIRL

OVER THAT ORGANIZATION.

THESE ALLEGATIONS HAVE CENTERED

UPON WHETHER THE GROUP ILLEGALLY

LOBBIED THE CITY IN 2015, OF

COURSE WHEN DE BLASIO WAS AT THE

HELM OF CITY HALL.

THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT

DEVELOPMENT TO BRING YOU WITH

THE "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTING

THAT THE STATE ETHICS PANEL HAS

ISSUED A SWEEPING SUBPOENA

SEEKING ALL COMMUNICATIONS AND

DOCUMENTS FROM THE MAYOR, HIS

AIDES, DONORS AND STAFF MEMBERS

OF THAT NONPROFIT.

WILLIAM RASHBAUM BROKE THE STORY

AND HE'S HERE WITH US NOW.

THIS IS A NONPROFIT SET UP BY

THE MAYOR BEFORE HE COMES INTO

OFFICE.

HE ENTERS CITY HALL, YET IT

CONTINUES TO OPERATE IN TERMS OF

THE LOBBYING PRACTICES WE'RE

TALKING ABOUT HERE, WHAT ARE THE

ALLEGATIONS LEVELED THAT HAVE

LED TO THIS INVESTIGATION?

>> WELL, THE JOINT COMMISSION ON

PUBLIC ETHICS WHICH IS THE STATE

LOBBYING PANEL HAS LOOKED AT

WHETHER OR NOT THE GROUP LOBBIED

ILLEGALLY IN 2015.

WERE REGISTERED IN 2014, TO

LOBBY.

REGISTERED WITH THE JOINT

COMMISSION.

AND THEY WERE PURSUING THE

MAYOR'S AGENDA, LARGELY TO MAKE

PREKINDERGARTEN UNIVERSALLY

AVAILABLE TO NEW YORK FAMILIES.

IN 2015, THEY DID NOT REGISTER.

AND THE PANEL SEEMS TO THINK

THAT THEY WERE LOBBYING OR IT'S

INVESTIGATING WHETHER OR NOT

THEY WERE DURING THAT TIME.

AND THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT

ISSUES WITH UNDISCLOSED GIFTS.

>> HOW ACTIVE A ROLE DID THE

MAYOR PLAY WITH THIS NONPROFIT?

HE COMES INTO OFFICE, AND IT'S

STILL OPERATING.

WAS HE CLOSELY INVOLVED IN THE

ORGANIZATION?

OR WAS IT PUSHED TO ONE SIDE?

>> WELL IT, THE GROUP WAS FORMED

IN LATE 2013.

DECEMBER OF 2013.

HE COMES INTO OFFICE AND MANY OF

THE CENTRAL PLAYERS IN THE GROUP

WERE CENTRAL PLAYERS IN HIS

CAMPAIGN.

OR PEOPLE IN HIS INNER CIRCLE.

AND HE HIMSELF RAISED MONEY FOR

THE GROUP, MADE PHONE CALLS.

CERTAINLY WE KNOW HE ATTENDED AT

LEAST, ATTENDED SEVERAL

FUNDRAISERS FOR THE GROUP.

>> AND YOUR REPORT THIS WEEK

BROADENS OUT THIS INVESTIGATION.

REPORTING THAT THE INVESTIGATION

ISN'T SIMPLY CONFINED TO THE

LOBBYING PRACTICES OF THIS

NONPROFIT.

BUT ALSO TAKING A LOOK,

EXPLORING WHETHER PEOPLE WITH

BUSINESS TIES TO THE CITY MAY

WELL HAVE DONATED TO THIS

NONPROFIT, AS A WAY OF GIVING TO

THE MAYOR WITHOUT NECESSARILY

HAVING TO DISCLOSE IT.

>> RIGHT.

WELL WHAT THE, WHAT THE JOINT

COMMISSION IS LOOKING AT IS

WHETHER OR NOT DONORS, WHETHER

OR NOT LOBBYISTS AND LOBBYING

CLIENTS WHO HAD BUSINESS BEFORE

THE CITY, WHETHER OR NOT THEIR

DONATIONS TO THE GROUP WOULD

CONSTITUTE UNDISCLOSED GIFTS TO

THE MAYOR.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF A LOBBYIST OR

SOMEONE WHO HAS RETAINED A

LOBBYIST GIVES SOMETHING TO THE

MAYOR THAT IS NOT IN SOME WAY

REGISTERED WITH JOINT COMMISSION

ON PUBLIC ETHICS.

JCOPE.

IT SENDS THAT THE QUESTIONS THAT

JCOPE HAS BEEN ASKING OF LAWYERS

FOR THESE DONORS, IT SEEMS CLEAR

THAT THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE

TRYING TO GET TO.

THIS NOTION THAT THERE MAY HAVE

BEEN UNDISCLOSED GIFTS.

>> WHAT'S BEEN THE REACTION FROM

DE BLASIO AND HIS ADMINISTRATION

IN LIGHT OF THE SUBPOENA THAT'S

BEEN ISSUED?

>> THE SUBPOENA WAS SERVED A

MATTER OF DAYS AFTER A COURT

RULING WAS HANDED DOWN IN WHICH

A JUDGE RULED THAT PRIOR

SUBPOENAS, THAT THE CAMPAIGN FOR

ONE NEW YORK HAD TO PRODUCE

DOCUMENTS.

IN RESPONSE TO THOSE PRIOR

SUBPOENAS.

SO THIS SUBPOENA SEEMS TO BE

JCOPE'S STEPPING UP OF THE

INVESTIGATION.

AND I THINK IT REMAINS TO BE

SEEN HOW THE CITY RESPONDS.

IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH THEY ARE

WORKING TO PUT TOGETHER

DOCUMENTS TO RESPOND.

BUT I'M NOT REALLY, I'M NOT

POSITIVE ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S JUST THE SENSE I GET FROM

TALKING TO LAWYERS.

>> YOU'VE LONG REPORTED ON

CORRUPTION FOR "THE NEW YORK

TIMES."

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS STORY

SPECIFICALLY, WHAT STANDS OUT?

WHAT ALARMS YOU MORE THAN

ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THE QUESTIONS THAT ARISE HERE

IS JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF

THIS IS TRANSACTIONAL POLITICS

AND HOW MUCH OF IT IS ACTUALLY

PAY TO PLAY?

YOU KNOW SOMETIMES THERE CAN BE

WHAT APPEARS, THERE CAN BE WHAT

APPEARS TO BE A FINE LINE

BETWEEN THE TWO.

IT ALL LOOKS I THINK LOOKS UGLY

TO VOTERS, TO CITIZENS, TO

PEOPLE THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT

GOVERNMENT.

WHEN THEY SEE THAT PEOPLE WITH A

LOT OF MONEY TO THROW AROUND,

ARE POTENTIALLY IN A MUCH BETTER

POSITION TO GET THINGS FROM THE

GOVERNMENT THAN OTHER FOLKS.

AND THAT'S ALWAYS TROUBLING.

BUT IN TERMS OF HOW IT WILL ALL

PLAY OUT, IN COURT AT THE END OF

THE DAY, THE CRIMINAL

INVESTIGATIONS AND THIS

ADMINISTRATIVE MATTER, IT'S

STILL HARD TO GAME THAT OUT FROM

HERE.

>> WHAT IS INTERESTING, YOU SAY

IT LOOKS UGLY, THERE'S A POLL

OUT SAYING THAT DE BLASIO'S

APPROVAL RATINGS ARE INCREASING.

IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE AS

THE INVESTIGATION CONTINUES

WHETHER THAT STAYS STEADY.

WILLIAM RASHBAUM WITH "THE NEW

YORK TIMES," THANK YOU SO MUCH

FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

♪♪

>>> TO THIS DAY IT REMAINS BOTH

ONE OF THE GREATEST AVIATION

MYSTERIES IN HISTORY AND A

DEEPLY PERSONAL TRAGEDY FOR OUR

AREA.

JUST OVER 20 YEARS AGO, TWA

FLIGHT 800 TOOK OFF FROM JOHN F.

KENNEDY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT

HEADED FOR PARIS, 12 MINUTES

LATER THE BOEING 747 JETLINER

EXPLODED OFF THE COAST OF LONG

ISLAND, KILLING ALL 230 PEOPLE

ON BOARD.

AFTER A LENGTHY INVESTIGATION,

THE NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION

SAFETY BOARD FOUND THAT THE

PLANE CAME DOWN AFTER A

SHORT-CIRCUIT LED TO AN

EXPLOSION ON BOARD.

BUT NOT EVERYONE HAS AGREED WITH

THAT CONCLUSION.

NEWS 12 LONG ISLAND WENT BACK

TO INTERVIEW TO FIND OUT WHAT

HAPPENED.

>> WE JUST SAW AN EXPLOSION.

>> TWA 800.

>> ABOUT 16,000 FEET OR

SOMETHING LIKE THAT IT JUST WENT

DOWN.

>> TWA 800, IDENTIFY.

>> I THINK THAT WAS HIM.

>> I THINK SO.

>> GOD BLESS THEM.

>> AT 8:31 P.M., ON JULY 17th,

1996, 230 PEOPLE DIED, WHEN TWA

FLIGHT 800 EXPLODED MID-AIR.

AND FELL INTO THE OCEAN JUST

SOUTH OF INLET.

AFTER A FOUR-YEAR JOINT

INVESTIGATION BY THE NATIONAL

TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD, THE

FBI AND THE C.I.A., THE OFFICIAL

REPORT CONCLUDED THAT A SPARK IN

A 747 CENTER WING FUEL TANK

LIKELY CAUSED THE EXPLOSION.

>> AGAIN, NO EVIDENCE OF AN

EXPLOSION JUST FROM LOOKING AT

THE BOXES?

>> WE COULDN'T TELL IT.

>> IT WAS BECAUSE THE WAY THE

AIRCRAFT HAD EXPLODED.

>> PORTIONS OF THE AIRCRAFT

CONTINUED.

THE NOSE PIECE FELL OFF AND THE

BULK OF THE AIRCRAFT.

>> BUT NUMEROUS EYE WITNESSES

ALONG WITH MEMBERS OF THE

INVESTIGATION ITSELF SAY THAT

CONCLUSION IS WAY OFF-COURSE.

>> THERE IS MORE THAN PLENTY

WITNESS EVIDENCE THAT THERE

WERE, THERE WERE TWO MISSILES

FIRED AT SEA.

AND ONE MISSILE FIRED FROM

SHORE.

>> AND WE ALL LOOKED OUT THE

WINDOW AND WE SAW A LARGE

FIREBALL COMING UP OUT OF THE

WATER.

>> THE RADAR HIT DEBRIS GOING

OUT THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE

AIRCRAFT, IN EXCESS OF MACH 4,

WHICH IS 6,000 MILES PER HOUR

HENRY HUGHES WAS THE SENIOR

ACCIDENT INVESTIGATOR FOR THE

NTSB AT THE CRASH SITE.

HE SAID RADAR SHOWS PIECES OF

WRECKAGE ROCKETING AWAY FROM THE

JET AT THREE TO FOUR TIMES THE

SPEED OF SOUND.

HE POINTS TO CHEMICALS FOUND ON

THE SEATS AND PORTIONS OF THE

FUSELAGE.

THE GOVERNMENT CALLED IT GLUE.

HE SAID IT WAS EXPLOSIVE

MATERIAL.

HUGHES BELIEVES THERE'S NO DOUBT

SOMETHING HIT TWA FLIGHT 800.

>> IT'S AN EXPLOSION THAT

OCCURRED EXTERNAL TO THE

AIRPLANE.

AND WE KNOW THAT FROM LOOKING AT

THE VICTIMS.

AND THE INTERIOR.

>> EVERY YEAR ON THE

ANNIVERSARY, FRIENDS AND FAMILY

GATHER HERE AT THE MEMORIAL TO

REMEMBER THOSE LOST IN THE

CRASH.

IT'S AN OMINOUS TRIBUTE TO THE

THIRD-MOST DEADLY AVIATION

ACCIDENT IN THE U.S.

HOWEVER, FOR MANY, THE QUESTION

WHETHER IT WAS AN ACCIDENT

REMAINS.

MORE THAN 200 PEOPLE CLAIM THE

NIGHT OF THE CRASH, THEY SAW A

BRIGHT LIGHT HEAD UP INTO THE

SKY.

ARCH ABOVE, AND THEN HEAD

DIRECTLY TOWARD FLIGHT 800.

AND NONE OF THOSE WITNESSES WERE

EVER ALLOWED TO PUBLICLY TESTIFY

AT THE NTSB HEARINGS.

>> THE OFFICIAL REPORT IS

SOMEBODY'S FANTASY.

>> FRED MEYER IS A RETIRED AIR

NATIONAL GUARD HELICOPTER PILOT

AND DECORATED VIETNAM VETERAN.

HE WAS FLYING A PRACTICE

APPROACH AT KABRESKY AIRPORT

NEAR WESTHAMPTON THE NIGHT OF

THE CRASH.

>> DIRECTLY AHEAD OF ME, MY SCAN

PICKS UP A ROCKET PLUME.

MOVING ABOUT 10 DEGREES ABOVE

THE HORIZON.

MOVING FROM MY LEFT CENTER TO MY

FURTHER LEFT.

>> THOSE WERE CLEARLY FOUR

MISSILES.

AND EXPLOSIONS OF FOUR MISSILES

OR ANTI-AIRCRAFT WEAPONS.

>> CRITICS OF THE OFFICIAL

FINDINGS POINT TO SOME OF THE

DAMAGE IN THE FUSELAGE AS MORE

CONSISTENT WITH THE MISSILE

STRIKE THAN AN INTERNAL

EXPLOSION.

HOWEVER, JIM HALL, CHAIRMAN OF

THE NTSB AT THE TIME, STILL

STANDS BY THE REPORT.

>> THERE WAS ENOUGH EVIDENCE

THERE, I REVIEWED EVERY PIECE OF

INFORMATION.

EVERY THING THAT YOU MENTIONED

WAS REVIEWED.

BY EVERYONE.

INVOLVED.

>> BUT HUGHES, A VETERAN

GOVERNMENT CRASH EXPERT, SAYS

THIS INVESTIGATION WAS ANYTHING

BUT NORMAL.

>> EVERYTHING FROM PEOPLE

BREAKING INTO MY HANGAR AT 3:00

IN THE MORNING AND REMOVING

PARTS.

PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T AUTHORIZED

TO, I MIGHT ADD, THE FBI CAUGHT

THEIR OWN PEOPLE BREAKING IN AND

SAID THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHY THEY

WERE DOING IT.

>> THE WHOLE THING WAS

CONTROLLED.

>> OUR AGENCY DID AN OUTSTANDING

JOB.

AT THE TIME.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT PURPOSE

SOME OF THESE PEOPLE MAY HAVE IN

TRYING TO KEEP THE MATTER ALIVE.

>> 20 YEARS HAS DONE NOTHING TO

CALM THE WATERS BETWEEN THE

OFFICIAL FINDINGS OF THE

GOVERNMENT AND THOSE WHO REMAIN

ON BOARD WITH THE MISSILE

THEORY.

>> THIS WAS ON AMERICAN SOIL.

ON A BEAUTIFUL SUMMER DAY.

AND 230 PEOPLE ON A COMMERCIAL

AIRLINER WERE KILLED WHEN IT WAS

SHOT DOWN OFF LONG ISLAND.

>> JOINING US WITH MORE ON THE

NEWS 12 LONG ISLAND

INVESTIGATION IS BRAD TRATINE,

THE PRODUCER OF THE PIECE YOU

JUST WATCHED.

BRAD, WELCOME, THANKS FOR

SPENDING SOME TIME WITH US HERE.

GOING INTO US, YOU'RE LOOKING

BACK AT A STORY THAT TOOK PLACE

20 YEARS AGO.

WHAT WERE YOU HOPEFUL YOU MIGHT

BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.

>> SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MY

NEWS DIRECTOR, PAT DOLAN WANTED

TO GET INTO THE PIECE.

NEWS 12 HAS COVERED IT FROM THE

BEGINNING, WE HAD PEOPLE THERE

THAT NIGHT AND WE'VE COVERED

EVERY MAJOR UPDATE AS WELL AS

ALL THE ANNIVERSARIES.

SO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE

GOT THE FAMILIES IN THERE.

20 YEARS LATER.

IT WAS DIFFICULT TO GET THOSE,

WE WANTED TO GET LESSONS

LEARNED.

BECAUSE THAT IS ONE, WHAT IS THE

LEGACY OF THIS CATASTROPHE.

AND WANTED TO JUST LOOK AT THE

MISSILE THEORY AND SEE YOU KNOW,

LOOK AT BOTH SIDES.

THERE'S BEEN SOME NEWS SINCE YOU

KNOW IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS

WITH THAT AND WE WANTED TO SEE

WHAT THE LATEST WAS.

>> AS YOU KNOW PUTTING A STORY

LIKE THIS TOGETHER, YOU'RE NOT

ENTIRELY SURE WHERE YOU'RE GOING

TO END UP.

WHERE THE STORY IS GOING TO TAKE

YOU.

WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT

PARTICULARLY SURPRISED YOU ONCE

YOU PUT THIS WHOLE THING

TOGETHER?

>> MOST SURPRISING THING WAS

WHAT I LEARNED PUTTING TOGETHER

THE PIECE WE JUST SAW.

I WAS VERY YOUNG WHEN IT

HAPPENED.

BUT I DO REMEMBER THAT NIGHT,

WATCHING IT ON TV.

I REMEMBER WATCHING THE PRESS

CONFERENCES, AS A KID I WAS VERY

INVOLVED IN THE NEWS AND I

REMEMBER WATCHING THOSE AND

STAYED ON TOP OF IT AND HEARD

ABOUT THE CENTER FUEL TANK

EXPLOSION.

I'M NOT A BIG CONSPIRACY THEORY

PERSON.

VERY SKEPTICAL.

BUT TALKING TO THE PEOPLE, HAD

THE BENEFIT OF SPEAKING WITH

SOMEBODY LIKE HANK HUGHES, WHO

RECENTLY RETIRED AND IS SPEAKING

OUT.

SPEAKING WITH THE MEDICAL

EXAMINER WHO RECENTLY SPOKE OUT.

SO SPEAKING WITH THEM AND THEN

SPEAKING WITH LIKE A JIM HALL

TYPE, JIM HALL, ASKING HIM WAS

THERE ANY PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OF A

CENTER FUEL TANK EXPLOSION.

AND HE SAID NO, HE GOT VERY

DEFENSIVE.

SPEAKING WITH THE FAA, CURRENTLY

WHEN I WAS IN WASHINGTON ABOUT

THEY SAID THAT NO, THAT IT WAS

VERY DIFFICULT TO GET ANY KIND

OF THING IN PLACE.

BECAUSE I THINK THE QUOTE WAS,

THE NTSB DID THEIR BEST TO PUT

THEIR FINGER ON IT BUT NEVER

IDENTIFIED THE ACTUAL CAUSE.

AND YOU TALK TO SOMEBODY LIKE

HANK HUGHES, WHO HAS EVIDENCE,

SHOWING THAT THE DAMAGE WAS ONLY

ON THE OUTSIDE.

THE PEOPLE IN THE SEATS WERE

FINE.

THE MEDICAL EXAMINER SAID THE

CAUSE OF DEATH FOR ALL OF THOSE

230 PEOPLE IS STILL

UNDETERMINED.

BECAUSE HE SAID IT ABSOLUTELY

WASN'T A FUEL TANK EXPLOSION.

THERE'S NO SOOT IN THEIR LUNGS,

NO SMOKE.

ALL THE PEOPLE PASSED AWAY FROM

FALLING OUT OF THE AIRPLANE.

THE DAMAGE TO THE INDIVIDUAL

PASSENGERS WERE ONES ON THE

OUTSIDE, CONSISTENT WITH AN

EXPLOSION EXTERIOR OF THE PLANE.

NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CENTER

FUEL TANK.

I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE

KNOW THAT.

AND THAT THE FAA -- ADMITTED

THAT THERE WAS NO DETERMINATION.

THAT THEY PUT THEIR FINGER ON

THE MOST LIKELY THING.

THE FBI INVOLVEMENT WAS

SURPRISING.

ASKING JIM HALL.

HE JUST SAID WELL THEY HAD THE

MANPOWER.

THERE WAS MORE THAN THAT, THE

C.I.A. WAS INVOLVED, THE FBI WAS

INVOLVED.

THERE WERE OVER 500 WITNESSES

WHO SAW THE MISSILE.

AND THESE WERE CREDIBLE

WITNESSES, MARINERS, PILOTS,

CONSISTENT OF WHAT THEY SAW.

>> I WAS WITH NBC NEWS AT THE

TIME.

I WAS DOWN AT THE ATLANTA

APPLICATION.

WHEN MSNBC HAD JUST GOTTEN UP ON

THE AIR AND EVERYBODY WAS

INVOLVED WITH THE COVERAGE.

I'M STRUCK BY 20 YEARS LATER,

THERE'S STILL NO RESOLUTION.

AND FOLKS SEEM EVEN MORE, MORE

CONSISTENT AND MORE ADAMANT THAN

EVER, ABOUT NO, THIS WASN'T

CAUSED BY A SHORT-CIRCUIT.

THIS WAS CAUSED BY SOMETHING

MUCH MORE NEFARIOUS.

AND I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU

AS A JOURNALIST, LOOKING AT IT,

WERE YOU STRUCK BY AGAIN HOW

ADAMANT THESE PEOPLE ARE?

IN TAKING A POSITION THAT THIS

WAS NOT, THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN THE

WAY THE BOARD SAID IT HAPPENED.

>> AS A JOURNALIST, YOU ALWAYS

LOOK AT PEOPLE'S MOTIVES.

WHY WOULD THIS PERSON HAVE A

MOTIVE TO SAY THAT?

INVESTIGATIVE RESEARCH, THE

INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE INVOLVED

AND THAT I SPOKE WITH THAT WERE

PUSHING THAT THING YOU SAID.

AND IT SEEMED TO ME LIKE THE

MEDICAL EXAMINER IS JUST KEPT UP

AT NIGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE

HAS 230 PEOPLE THAT HE'S WORKED

ON, WHERE IT'S STILL LEFT

UNDETERMINED.

HE SAID IF IT WAS AN ACCIDENT

WHERE THE NAVY MISFIRED A

MISSILE.

IT WOULD BE ACCIDENTAL.

IF IT WAS A TERRORIST, IT WOULD

BE MURDER.

BUT HE'S NEVER HAD SOMETHING

WHERE THE INVESTIGATIVE BODY

NEVER LISTENED TO HIM.

USUALLY THEY FACTOR IN WHAT THE

MEDICAL EXAMINER SAYS.

WHAT THE NTSB SAYS.

THE NTSB, THEY DIDN'T FACTOR IN

TO IT.

IT'S BASICALLY COMING FROM THE

FBI.

THE WAY THAT I LOOK AT IT IS TRY

TO BE OBJECTIVE.

THE CAMERAMAN, THE EDITORS

INVOLVED.

DON'T GET INVOLVED WITH THE

EDITORIAL PROCESS, THEY'RE

INVOLVE WITH THE TECHNICAL

THINGS.

BUT AFTER GOING TO D.C. AND

VIRGINIA, THOSE INDIVIDUALS

SITTING IN THE CAR, HEARING THEM

SAY WOW, IT MORE LOOKS LIKE THIS

THAN THIS.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU KNOW,

REALLY HOLDING BOTH PARTIES

ACCOUNTABLE.

THAT IT WASN'T YOU KNOW WHAT THE

FINAL FINDINGS WERE.

AND THE FINAL FINDINGS WEREN'T

BASED ON ANYTHING SCIENTIFIC.

JIM HALL SAID EARLIER IN THE

'90s, HE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH

ALL 500 MILES OF CABLE AND FIND

THE ONE.

AND HE DIDN'T.

AND REMEMBER THIS WAS A HUGE

INVESTIGATION.

THEY RECON STRUNGTED THAT WHOLE

THING, THEY PICKED UP EVERY

LITTLE PIECE.

THIS WAS THE MOST --

>> FASCINATING TO SEE THE PLANE.

>> SINGLE INVESTIGATION.

COULD NOT FIND THAT THING AND

PEOPLE I SPOKE WITH IN THE

AVIATION INDUSTRY SAY NO WAY.

IF THAT WAS THE CASE, YOU'D HAVE

747s GROUNDED IMMEDIATELY.

AND THE FACT THAT IT TOOK SO

LONG.

>> LAST QUESTION FOR YOU, HAVING

LOOKED AT THIS THROUGH THE PRISM

OF 20 YEARS, DO YOU HAVE ANY

SENSE THAT THERE WILL EVER BE

ANY FINAL DEFINITIVE RESOLUTION

OF WHAT CAUSED FLIGHT 800 TO GO

DOWN?

>> IT MIGHT JUST BE ONE OF THOSE

STORIES THAT GOES DOWN IN

HISTORY WITH A QUESTION MARK.

I THINK.

THE FAMILIES THAT I SPOKE TO,

THE VICTIMS, YOU KNOW, IT'S

GONE, THEY WANT IT TO KIND OF GO

AWAY.

YOU KNOW, SOME SPOKE TO US

BECAUSE IT'S THE ANNIVERSARY.

THEY DON'T WANT TO GET INTO WHAT

HAPPENED.

A LOT OF THE WITNESSES WHO SPOKE

EARLIER ARE NOW WORRIED OR

SCARED.

THEY WOULD ONLY TALK TO US IF WE

HID THEIR FACE AND VOICE.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR THERE.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT

PENDING SOME MAJOR THING THAT WE

DON'T SEE COMING, I THINK IT

MIGHT JUST BE SOMETHING THAT IS

A MYSTERY UNLESS THERE'S A LOT

THERE.

I'M STILL LOOKING INTO IT.

I'M FINDING OUT A LOT MORE

THINGS.

BUT THIS IS THE TIP OF THE

ICEBERG.

I THINK OF A PRETTY INTERESTING

STORY.

AND YOU KNOW, I CAN'T PUT MY

FINGER ON WHAT HAPPENED.

BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY ROOM FOR

MORE INVESTIGATION.

>> BRAD, IT WAS A VERY

THOUGHT-PROVOKING AND COMPELLING

LOOK BACK AT A MYSTERY THAT AS

YOU SAID, MIGHT NEVER BE

RESOLVED FOR ALL OF US.

GREAT WORK BY YOU FOLKS OUT

THERE.

THANKS FOR COMING IN.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> TAKE CARE.

♪♪

>>> WE LOVED HER IN "WICKED" AND

ON THE TV SHOW, "GLEE" AND IN SO

MANY OTHER GREAT STARRING ROLES

ON TELEVISION, THE MOVIES.

THE EMMY-AWARD WINNING ACTRESS,

KRISTEN CHENOWITH IS SHOWING US

THE ART OF ELEGANCE WITH HER NEW

ABUM "AMERICAN SONGBOOK

CLASSICS."

TAKE A LISTEN.

♪ WHAT'S IN STORE

♪ SHOULD I FALL ONCE MORE

♪ NO ONE SAID THAT I STICK TO MY

TRUE ♪

♪ I GET ALONG WITHOUT YOU VERY

WELL ♪

♪ OF COURSE

♪ I DO ♪

>> IT'S A SOUND THAT ONLY COMES

FROM LIFE.

AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE UP HERE

ANY MORE.

IT'S MAYBE GOING TO BE DOWN HERE

A LITTLE BIT.

AND THAT CAN ONLY COME THROUGH

EXPERIENCE.

HARDSHIP AND GRATEFULNESS AND

THAT'S WHY I'M READY TO SING

THIS MUSIC.

>> WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO HAVE

KRISTEN CHENOWITH JOIN US NOW.

I DON'T OFTEN GUSH OVER MY GUEST

BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU HOW

THRILLED WE HAVE TO HAVE YOU

HERE WITH US.

IT'S JUST A DELIGHT TO MEET YOU

AND HAVE YOU HERE.

LET'S START OFF WITH THE ALBUM.

I MENTIONED TO YOU MY WIFE AND I

LISTENED TO IT AND THE SENSE WE

GOT WAS, WE WERE SITTING IN OUR

LIVING ROOM AND YOU WERE OVER IN

THE CORNER AT A PIANO SINGING TO

US.

THAT'S HOW IT FELT.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED.

>> I'M ALWAYS FASCINATED BY

TITLES.

WHERE DOES "THE ART OF ELEGANCE"

WHY DOES ELEGANCE ENTER THE

TITLE IN.

>> IT'S A TWO-PARTER FOR ME.

THE FIRST MY MOM USED TO ALWAYS

TELL ME, KRISTEN IN WHATEVER YOU

DO, ALWAYS BE A LADY AND

REMEMBER TO BE ELEGANT.

I REMEMBER LOOKING THAT WORD UP

IN THE DICTIONARY, BACK WHEN WE

HAD THE BIG BOOK.

>> THE REAL DICTIONARY.

>> I THOUGHT I THINK I

UNDERSTAND THAT.

SHE SAID, I SAID LET'S GO TO THE

EXPENSIVE STORE IN TOWN AND GET

ME A PRETTY EASTER DRESS.

AND SHE SAID, YOU CAN GO TO

TARGET.

YOU CAN GO, IT DOESN'T MATTER

WHERE YOU GO.

JUST ALWAYS BE ELEGANT.

AND I GUESS I'VE LOOKED FOR

QUALITIES WHICH IS CLASS, AND

ELEGANCE IN MY LIFE.

NOT JUST IN MY MUSIC.

AND THE WAY I PRESENT MYSELF.

AND OF COURSE I CAN HAVE FUN AND

GET DOWN AND ALL THAT STUFF.

BUT I TRY TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S

A SENSE OF MANNERS, I THINK

THAT, THAT I I DON'T KNOW IF

IT'S A SOUTHERN THING.

BUT I JUST, I THINK THAT IT'S

IMPORTANT AND I THINK ESPECIALLY

NOW WITH WHAT I'M SEEING IN OUR

YOUNG PEOPLE.

I SEE A LACK OF THAT A LITTLE

BIT GOING OUT THE DOOR AND I'M

LIKE, YOU ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE TO

BE THAT.

YOU CAN BE TALENTED AND NOT

CLASSLESS.

AND SO I WANTED PEOPLE TO KNOW

THERE'S AN ART TO IT.

AND THERE'S AN ART TO EACH OF

THESE SONGS.

THERE'S AN ARC TO EACH OF THESE

SONGS.

AND THEY DON'T WRITE THEM LIKE

THAT AS MUCH ANY MORE.

>> SO LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE

SONGS.

>> YES.

>> GOING THROUGH THEM AND

THERE'S SO MANY FABULOUS SONGS.

I THINK PROBABLY "SKYLARK" WHICH

MAY BE MY FAVORITE.

>> THAT MAKES ME SO HAPPY,

BECAUSE THAT'S MY FAVORITE.

>> WHEN YOU DECIDED TO DO THIS

PROJECT WITH ALL THE MARVELOUS

SONGS OUT THERE, "AMERICAN

SONGBOOK" FANTASTIC SONGS FOR

YOU TO SING, HOW DO YOU CHOOSE

THE ONES YOU'RE GOING TO DO?

>> THERE'S A LOT OF TEARS

INVOLVED.

BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO CUT A

LOT OF THE ONES I DID.

I HAVE TO DO THE ONES THAT SPEAK

THE LOUDEST TO ME.

SO I MADE A LIST.

MUCH LIKE WE WOULD OF WHAT JUST

SONGS WERE YOU SAYING AND I KEPT

MAKING THAT LIST.

WHAT SONGS YOU HAVE TO CUT.

AND IT THEN JUST REVEALS ITSELF

TO ME.

BUT THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT

THIS ALBUM IS I WAS DONE AND I

WAS DOING BOSTON CHILDREN'S

THEATER, AN EVENT FOR THEM ONE

NIGHT.

I WAS IN MY TUB TAKING A BATH

AND LISTENING TO SOME OF THE

TRACKS, CRITIQUING AND NOT BEING

EXTREMELY HAPPY WITH CERTAIN

THINGS.

I KNEW I WAS GOING TO GO BACK IN

THE STUDIO.

I CALLED STEVE TYRELL AND I

SAID, I HEARD A RANDOM SONG ON

THE RADIO.

IT WAS ON "SERIOUSLY SINATRA."

AND IT WAS "I'M A FOOL TO WANT

YOU.

"I DON'T KNOW THAT SONG AND I

GOT TO DO IT.

HE WROTE IT DURING HIS BREAK-UP

WITH AVA GARDNER AND IT WAS NEW

TO ME.

>> NOT HEARD OFTEN.

THE FACT THAT SINATRA WAS

INVOLVED IN WRITING IT WAS

EXTRAORDINARY.

>> RIGHT, HE WROTE IT, PERFORMED

IT, RECORDED IT AND HE NEVER DID

IT AGAIN.

WITH THE HISTORY OF THAT SONG I

WENT, I'M PUTTING IT ON.

AND WE DID.

?

IS ASKING YOU IF YOU HAVE A

FAVORITE SONG LIKE ASKING

SOMEONE IF THEY HAVE A FAVORITE

CHILD?

>> YES.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

I -- YOU KNOW, DOLLY PARTON SAYS

THAT ALL OF HER SONGS THAT SHE'S

WRITTEN -- I LOVE THEM ALL,

THEY'RE ALL MY CHILDREN.

SOME OF THEM I LIKE BETTER THAN

OTHERS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'D PICK.

I DEFINITELY HAVE MY TOP THREE

OR FOUR ON HERE.

"SOMEONE TO WATCH OVER ME" IT'S

HARD TO BEAT, IT'S GERSHWIN.

IT'S "AMERICAN SONGBOOK" AT ITS

BEST.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT I

LOVE THE LYRIC TO "SMILE."

NOT MANY KNOW THAT CHARLIE

CHAPLAN WROTE THE MUSIC TO THAT

AND "SKYLARK" AND "I GET ALONG

WITH YOU VERY WELL."

WHICH IS HOGEY CARMICHAEL AND

JOHNNY MERCER.

I COULD GO ON.

AND EVERY TIME IT OCCURS ME TO

MAKE A FAVORITE, I JUST TOSS IT

OUT.

>> I SUGGEST EVERY ONE OF THOSE

SHOULD BE YOUR FAVORITE, YOU DO

A MARVELOUS JOB ON ALL OF THEM.

WE TALK ABOUT THE "ART OF

ELEGANCE" AND YOUR MOMMA TALKING

ABOUT ELEGANCE, I'M SURE SHE'D

BE VERY PROUD OF HOW ELEGANT

YOU'VE BECOME.

>> THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST

THING YOU COULD SAY TO ME.

>> KRISTEN, YOU BE WELL AND WE

LOOK FORWARD TO ALL THE THINGS

YOU HAVE GOING ON.

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