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WELCOME TO HUDSON YARDS, STATEN ISLAND’S ST. PATRICK’S DAY BAN, ENDING THE ABUSE.

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>>> TONIGHT ON "METROFOCUS", THE

RIBBON HAS BEEN CUT, THE DOORS

HAVE BEEN OPENED AND THE VESSEL

WELCOMES ALL TO WISH TO ASCEND

ITS STAIRS.

HUDSON YARDS BECAME MANHATTAN'S

NEWEST AND COOLEST

NEIGHBORHOOD.

IN A MOMENT WE'LL TAKE YOU

THERE.

>>> AS LAST MINUTE PREPARATIONS

CONTINUE FOR TOMORROW ASSET ALL

INCLUSIVE ST. PATRICK'S DAY

PARADE IN MANHATTAN, STATEN

ISLAND'S LGBT COMMUNITY

QUESTIONED WHY THEY ARE STILL

BEING BANNED FROM THAT BOROUGH

CELEBRATION, AND PRESENT THEIR

PLAN TO MARCH DOWN FOREST AVENUE

NEXT YEAR.

>> AND AFTER A YEAR THAT ROCKED

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WITH NEW

REVELATIONS OF SOMETIMES DECADES

OLD INCIDENTS OF SEXUAL ABUSE,

POPE FRANCIS INVOKED AN

UNPRECEDENTED SUMMIT TO TAKE

ACTION, A SERIOUS FIRST STEP OR

PR DAMAGE CONTROL.

MONSIGNOR GYM ILSATNTE IS HERE

WITH ANSWERS AS "METROFOCUS"

STARTS RIGHT NOW.

>>> THIS IS METROFOCUS WITH

RAFAEL PI ROMAN, JACK FORD AND

JENNA FLANAGAN.

METROFOCUS IS MADE POSSIBLE BY

JAMES AND MERRYL TISCH.

SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM, III,

THE SYLVIA PROGRAMMING ENDOWMENT

TO FIGHT ANTI-SEMITISM.

ROSLYN P. WALTER, BARBARA HOPE

ZUCKERBERG AND BY CORPORATE

FUNDING FOR "METROFOCUS" WAS

PROVIDED BY MUTUAL OF AMERICA,

YOUR RETIREMENT COMPANY.

AND BY PSE&G, SERVING CUSTOMERS,

STRENGTHENING THE BUSINESS

COMMUNITY AND INVESTING IN THE

FUTURE.

>>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO

METROFOCUS, I'M JACK FORD.

IT IS A BIG DAY FOR THE CITY,

AND ONE THAT WILL GO INTO THE

HISTORY BOOKS.

WHAT WAS ONCE AN UNUSED PARCEL

OF LAND, A FORMER TRANSVERSE FOR

RAIL LINES COMING INTO AND OUT

OF NEW YORK HAS NOW TURNED INTO

MANHATTAN'S NEWEST NEIGHBORHOOD

AND HOTTEST NEW ADDRESS.

TODAY, HUDSON YARDS HAS

OFFICIALLY OPENED TO THE PUBLIC.

THE MASSIVE METROPOLIS IS BEING

HAILED AS THE LARGEST PRIVATE

REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT IN OUR

NATION'S HISTORY.

REPLETE WITH AN OBSERVATION

DECK, UNRIVALLED BY ANY IN

MANHATTAN, AND ITS MAGNIFICENT

AND AWE INSPIRING ART

INSTALLMENT/ARCHITECTURAL

MARVEL, THE VESSEL.

IT'S GIVING A NEW FACE TO OUR

CITY SKYLINE AND FOREVER

CHANGING THE VIEW NEW JERSEY HAS

OF OUR EVER EXPANDING GOTHAM.

METROFOCUS CORRESPONDENT MADDIE

ORTON IS IN THE HEART OF HUDSON

YARDS AND IS STANDING BY WITH

FOR MOST A FIRST LOOK AT NEW

YORK'S NEWEST ADDITION.

MA

MADDE.

>> Reporter: THANKS, JACK, I'M

HERE AT HUDSON YARDS WHERE THE

NEWEST NEIGHBORHOOD, HAS IT

GRAND OPENING.

SURROUNDED BY SOME OF

MANHATTAN'S NEWEST BUILDINGS,

WITH THE NEW ICONIC VESSEL

GLEAMING IN THE BACK ROUND, THE

HUDSON YARDS OPENING CEREMONY

BEGAN WITH A NOD TO THE CITY'S

PAST.

GRAMMY NOMINATED SINGER ANDRA

DAY SINGING RODGERS AND HART'S

MANHATTAN.

♪ THE SUBWAY CHARMS ARE SO

♪, KICKING OFF THE PRESENTATION

WAS ANDERSON COOPER OF CNN.

THE NETWORK AND ITS PARENT

ORGANIZATION WARNER MEDIA ARE

TWO OF THE COMPANIES THAT

RELOCATED THEIR OFFICES TO

HUDSON YARDS.

>> THIS IS REALLY AN INCREDIBLE

MOMENT IN NEW YORK'S HISTORY.

I'M A LIFELONG NEW YORKER, I'VE

NEVER SEEN THE CREATION OF A

WHOLE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD AND SUCH

AN INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL ONE AND

AN INTERESTING ONE.

THE RELATED COMPANIES BROKE

GROUND ON THIS SIX YEARS AGO.

I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY DID IT IN

SIX YEARS.

BUT THIS REALLY IS A MONUMENT TO

ACKNOWLEDGE THE INNOVATION, TO

OPTIMISM.

>> Reporter: REPRESENTATIVES

FROM VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE

PROJECT WERE ON HAND TO

CELEBRATE THE OPENING AND TO

DEMONSTRATE HOW HUDSON YARDS'

SUCCESS IS A SHARED SUCCESS.

SENATOR CHUCK SCHUMER WAS PART

OF A WORKING GROUP OF EXPERTS

FROM DIFFERENT FIELDS CALLED THE

GROUP OF 35.

IN THE EARLY 2000s, HE AND HIS

COLLEAGUES COMPILED

RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CITY

DEVELOPMENT, WHICH LAID THE

GROUNDWORK FOR RELATED HUDSON

YARDS.

>> TWO DECADES AGO, THIS AREA

WAS BARREN, BUT NEW YORK CITY

WAS GROWING AND BUSINESSES

NEEDED A PLACE TO GROW AND

EXPAND BEYOND MANHATTAN'S SUPER

DENSE CORPORATE NEIGHBORHOODS

LIKE MIDTOWN AND THE FINANCIAL

DISTRICT.

BACK THEN, THERE WERE TWO THINGS

THAT MOTIVATED ME, AND THAT

STILL MOTIVATE ME TODAY IN TERMS

OF NEW YORK.

THE FIRST IS JOB GROWTH.

I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT THE

MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO

FOR NEW YORKERS IS CREATE JOBS

AT EVERY RUNG OF THE ECONOMIC

LADDER.

THE SECOND IS TRANSPORTATION AND

INFRASTRUCTURE.

IF YOU BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE,

THEY WILL COME.

AND NEW YORK'S ADVANTAGE HAS

ALWAYS BEEN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

OUR SUBWAYS, OUR BRIDGES, OUR

TUNNELS, OUR HIGHWAYS OUR

PARKWAYS.

>> Reporter: SCHUMER ALSO SEIZED

THE MOMENT TO MAKE THE CASE FOR

AN ADDITIONAL PIECE OF

INFRASTRUCTURE, THE GATEWAY

TUNNEL.

>> FOR ALL THE COMPLAINTS AND

MANY OF THEM ARE LEGITIMATE

ABOUT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE

BRINGING 3 1/2 MILLION PEOPLE

INTO MANHATTAN IS A REMARKABLE

FEAT, AND PARENTHETICALLY, I

MIGHT ADD, I HOPE THE WHITE

HOUSE CAN HEAR THIS, THAT MEANS

WE NEED GATEWAY TUNNEL AS WELL.

>> Reporter: SCHUMER WENT ON TO

SAY ANYBODY WORRIED ABOUT THE

FUTURE VITALITY OF NEW YORK

SHOULD LOOK NO FURTHER THAN THE

TRANSFORMATION AT HUDSON YARDS.

>> THIS GARGANTUAN EFFORT BY

STEVE ROSS AND RELATED BY THE

BUILDING TRADES, BY THE STATE

AND CITY AND SO MANY OTHERS,

WILL DRIVE GROWTH, ENERGY AND

OPTIMISM IN THIS CITY TO A

DEGREE THAT THE GROUP OF 35

COULD ONLY HAVE DREAMED OF.

>> Reporter: STEVEN ROSS,

CHAIRMAN OF THE RELATED

COMPANIES WHICH CODEVELOPED THE

PROJECT TOOK THE STAGE TO

DISCUSS WHAT HUDSON YARDS MEANS

TO NEW YORK CITY.

>> TODAY, WE ARE A NEW

NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE THE WEST

SIDE ALL COMES TOGETHER.

TODAY WE CREATED A NEW MODEL FOR

THE WORLD TO SEE A NEIGHBORHOOD

ELEMENT THAT ENCOURAGES

SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILL IENCY.

TODAY WE CREATED A DYNAMIC HUB

OF CREATIVITY AND INNOVATION,

AND TODAY, ONCE AGAIN, WE SHOWED

TO NEW YORK WILL AND ALWAYS WILL

BE THE GREATEST CITY IN THE

WORLD.

>> Reporter: ROSS ASK CKNOWLEDG

THE PROJECT WAS A MAJOR

UNDERTAKING.

HE THANKED AMONG OTHERS THE

SKILLED LABOR FORCE THAT BROUGHT

HUDSON YARDS TO LIFE AND

ACKNOWLEDGED HIS PREVIOUSLY

STRAINED BUT NOW HE SAYS LA

BARBARA, THE HEAD OF NEW YORK

CITY BUILDING TRADE'S CONSUL.

>> AS ACKNOWLEDGED.

THE ACTUAL BUILDINGS THAT YOU

SEE, THE VESSEL BEHIND US, WAS

BUILT BY HUMAN HANDS.

AND THESE WERE UNION HUMAN

HANDS, AND WE TAKE GREAT PRIDE

IN OUR SKILL AND OUR CRAFT.

THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM IN

NEW YORK CITY ARE SECOND TO

NONE.

SOME DAY, THERE WILL BE AN IRON

WORKER WALKING BY WITH HIS SON

OR GRANDSON AND HE WILL SAY,

LOOK, I BUILT THAT.

THAT IS A GREAT DEAL OF PRIDE.

>>> LA BARBARA SHARED THE

SPECIAL CHALLENGE AND

ACCOMPLISHMENT OF CONSTRUCTING

THE VESSEL.

A CRIMABLE SCULPTURE THAT IS

CONSTRUCTION AND ART.

ECHOED THAT SENTIMENT IN HIS

SPEECH AND COMPARED HUDSON YARDS

TO OTHER GREAT GATHERING PLACES

IN NEW YORK CITY.

>> IN OUR PRACTICE, WE'RE

FASCINATING BY SPACES THAT BRING

PEOPLE TOGETHER, SPACES THAT ARE

FREE AND NEW YORK HAS JUST BEEN

THIS PIONEER OF THAT.

THEY HAVE JUST FROM THE ORIGINAL

CENTRAL PARK, WHICH IS JUST SO

ORIGINAL FOR THE WAY OF THE

CONFIDENCE OF PUTTING ONE MAJOR

MASSIVE SPACE FOR EVERYONE TO

SHARE OF WHATEVER INCOME THEY

WERE AND THEN IN RECENT HISTORY,

THE HIGH LINE HAPPENING, AND SO

IN A WAY THAT'S HOW WE HAD THE

IDEA FOR TRYING TO MAKE

SOMETHING THAT WOULD BUILD ON

THAT HERITAGE.

THE IDEA OF VESSEL REALLY WAS

THAT IT'S JUST A PLATFORM FOR

WHATEVER'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH

IT AND ON IT OVER THE YEARS AND

DECADES TO COME.

THE WHOLE POINT WAS TO BE

LIFTING UP 700 PEOPLE SO

THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF

PEOPLE EVERY DAY COULD LIKE THE

ITALIAN PROM NENADES BE ABLE TO

LOOK AT EACH OTHER, LOOK UP,

LOOK DOWN, SHARE AN

EXTRAORDINARY EXPERIENCE, AND SO

IT'S NOT FINISHED UNTIL YOU'RE

ON IT.

>> Reporter: WITH THAT, THE

OFFICIAL CLIMB ABOARD WAS GIVEN

BY A FAMOUS RESIDENT OF ANOTHER

WELL KNOWN REAL ESTATE

DEVELOPMENT, SESAME STREET.

>> THANK YOU, NO, I THOUGHT I

WAS BIG, BUT HOW BIG IS THE BIRD

THAT LIVES IN THAT NEST, ONE,

TWO, THREE.

>> Reporter: HUDSON YARDS PLAYS

IN THE BROADER NEW YORK CITY

CULTURE HAS YET TO BE SEEN, BUT

THE BUZZ HERE IS PALPABLE.

IN MANHATTAN, I'M MADDIE ORTON,

FOR "METROFOCUS."

>>> AS THE EVER POPULAR AND NOW

ALL INCLUSIVE ST. PATRICK'S DAY

PARADE MARCHES DOWN 5th AVENUE

THIS YEAR, NEW YORK'S IRISH

COMMUNITY INCLUDING ITS LGBT

BROTHERS AND SISTERS WILL MARCH

ARM IN ARM IN CELEBRATION OF A

COMMON HERITAGE, BUT JUST A

DOZEN MILES AWAY ON STATEN

ISLAND, THIS YEAR ST. PATRICK'S

DAY PARADE WAS MARRED IN THE

OPINION OF MANY YET AGAIN BY THE

SPIRIT OF EXCLUSION.

MEMBERS OF THE BOROUGHS ANCIENT

ORDER OF HIBERNIANS TOLD THE

LEADER OF PRIDE CENTER OF SHIELD

THAT THEY WERE NOT WELCOME TO

MARCH, CLIMBING THAT THEIR

BANNER PROMOTED, THIS IS THEIR

WORDS, PROMOTED THE HOMOSEXUAL

LIFESTYLE AND GOES AGAINST THE

TENANTS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH:

BOTH NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL

MEDIA COVERED THE EVENT AND IT

WAS ACCOMPANIED BY ADMONISHMENT

FROM STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS

WHO SUPPORT LGBT RIGHTS ALONG

WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES ALONG THE

PARADE ROUTE.

YET THIS YEAR'S STATEN ISLAND

ST. PA

ST. PATRICK'S DAY PARADE HAS

LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY

PASSED BY.

THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS

NEXT YEAR AND IF THE RAINBOW

FLAG MIGHT EVENTUALLY FLY

ALONGSIDE THE EMERALD ON FOREST

AVENUE.

JOINING ME NOW WITH A DISCUSSION

ABOUT THIS AND A PLAN OF ACTION

IS THE PRIDE CENTER OF STATEN

ISLAND'S CAROL BULLOCK.

IT WAS ABOUT A WEEK AGO WHEN WE

TALKED AND NOW CONTINUING THE

CONVERSATION.

LET ME ASK YOU TO DO THIS FOR

VIEWERS WHO MAY NOT HAVE HEARD

THE FIRST CONVERSATION OR

FOLLOWED IT.

TELL ME ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION,

WHAT DOES IT DO?

>> THE PRIDE CENTER OF STATEN

ISLAND IS A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR

THE LGBT COMMUNITY.

WE OFFER SUPPORT NOT ONLY FOR

THE COMMUNITY ITSELF BUT FOR

THEIR FAMILIES, PROVIDING

SERVICES SUCH AS FREE MENTAL

HEALTH, FREE HIV TESTING, WE

ALSO HAVE WONDERFUL PROGRAMMING

FOR THE YOUTH AS WELL AS THE

ELDERLY.

WE ALSO PROVIDE EDUCATION FOR

ORGANIZATIONS ALL THROUGHOUT

STATEN ISLAND, AND WE DO

ADVOCACY WORK AS WELL.

>> SO YOUR GROUP WANTED TO

MARCH, ST. PATRICK'S DAY, NOT

JUST MARCH BUT MARCH UNDER YOUR

OWN BANNER AS OTHER GROUPS MARCH

UNDER THEIR OWN BANNER.

TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU

WENT TO THE ORGANIZER AND GAVE

YOUR APPLICATION TO MARCH.

>> WHEN I WALKED IN I STATED MY

NAME AND WHAT ORGANIZATION I WAS

FROM AND I WAS IMMEDIATELY TOLD

THAT THERE WAS A VOTE TAKEN AND

THE ANSWER WAS NO.

AND WHEN I ASKED WHY, I WAS

REFERRED TO LARRY CUMMINGS WHO'S

THE PRESIDENT OF THE PARADE

COMMITTEE, AND IN THE DISCUSSION

HE TOLD ME THAT WE GO AGAINST

THE TENANTS OF THE CATHOLIC

CHURCH, THROUGH SOME MORE

DIALOGUE, HE TOLD ME THAT OUR

BANNER PROMOTED THE HOMOSEXUAL

LIFESTYLE.

BECAUSE HE DID SAY WE COULD

MARCH, JUST NOT WITH OUR BANNER.

>> WHY WAS IT SO IMPORTANT FOR

YOU TO MARCH WITH YOUR BANNER,

INSTEAD OF SAYING, FINE, WE'LL

BE A PRESENCE, WE'LL BE THERE,

AND WE'LL MARCH, WHY DID YOU

DECIDE THAT YOU NEEDED YOUR

BANNER?

>> FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE MANY

OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE

ALLOWED TO MARCH UNDER THEIR

BANNER.

IT'S AN ORGANIZATION I'M

EXTREMELY PROUD TO WORK FOR.

WE DO SO MUCH GREAT WORK ALL

ACROSS THE ISLAND.

TO SAY THAT A BANNER WOULD

PROMOTE A HOMOSEXUAL LIFESTYLE

IS JUST RIDICULOUS, AND WHEN I

TOLD HIM JUST THAT, THAT IT WAS

RIDICULOUS, I INVITED HIM TO

COME TO THE CENTER TO SEE WHAT

WE ACTUALLY DO, AND OUR

CONVERSATION STOPPED THERE, BUT

AS AN ORGANIZATION, WE WANT TO

PROUDLY WALK WITH OUR BANNER AND

CELEBRATE OUR IRISH HERITAGE.

>> DID YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION

WITH HIM ABOUT THE FACT THAT NOW

THE PARADE HERE ON 5th AVENUE

HAS CHANGED AND NOW IT DOES

ALLOW GROUPS TO MARCH?

>> YES.

>> WITH THEIR OWN IDENTITY AND

THEIR OWN BANNERS.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ANY REACTION TO THAT?

>> NO.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, I EVEN

SAID, YOU KNOW THE PRIME

MINISTER OF IRELAND IS AN OPENLY

GUY MAN, WOULD YOU ALLOW HIM TO

MARCH WITH US UNDER OUR BANNER.

I SAID HE CAN MARCH, JUST NOT

UNDER A BANNER.

>> WHAT SORT OF REACTION DID YOU

GET FROM OTHER PUBLIC FIGURES

AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS BEFORE THE

PARADE TOOK PLACE?

>> OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FROM ALL

ELECTED OFFICIALS.

IT WAS INCREDIBLE.

>> GIVE ME FOR INSTANCES.

>> THE BOROUGH PRESIDENT,

GOVERNOR CUOMO PUT SOMETHING

OUT.

I CAN NAME EVERY SINGLE ELECTED

OFFICIAL, DEBBIE ROSE.

>> AND THIS WAS PUBLIC SUPPORT.

>> YES, PUBLIC SUPPORT.

>> NOT JUST A PHONE CALL SAYING,

HEY I CAN'T GET UP FRONT ABOUT

THIS, BUT WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO

BE ABLE TO DO IT.

THIS IS PEOPLE SAYING YOU CAN

PUT MY NAME ON THIS ENDORSEMENT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> HOW ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY

ITSELF?

>> AGAIN, OVERWHELMING.

WE HAD, IMMEDIATELY, WITHIN THE

FIRST WEEK OF REALLY GETTING

THIS OUT THERE, ABOUT ALMOST 30

ORGANIZATIONS WHO SIGNED ON TO

SUPPORT US, AND I HAVE TO TELL

YOU, I HAVE GOTTEN PHONE CALLS,

E-MAILS, EVERY SINGLE DAY FROM

INDIVIDUALS.

EITHER FROM STATEN ISLAND OR

BEYOND OUR BOROUGH, JUST IN

SUPPORT SAYING THEY CAN'T

BELIEVE THIS IS GOING ON.

WHAT CAN THEY DO.

>> DID YOU GO TO THE PARADE?

>> I DID.

I DID.

>> IN WHAT CAPACITY AND DID YOU

MARCH AT ALL OR WERE YOU SIMPLY

A SPECTATOR?

HOW DID YOU HANDLE IT?

>> YEAH, SO IT'S A GREAT DAY, A

GREAT CELEBRATION, AS I TOLD YOU

BEFORE, AND VERY IMPORTANT TO

STATEN ISLAND ECONOMICALLY AS

WELL AS JUST, YOU KNOW,

CAMARADERIE, AND I WAS

PERSONALLY INVITED TO A VIP

BRUNCH PRIOR TO THE PARADE BY

ASSEMBLYMAN MIKE KUSICK AND MIKE

McMAN, OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY,

AND I WENT TO THAT.

IT WAS GREAT, AGAIN, THE SUPPORT

WAS INCREDIBLE.

AFTER THAT BRUNCH, I WENT

OUTSIDE AND I WALKED DOWN ONE

SIDE OF THE STREET ON FOREST

AVENUE, WALKED BACK UP, WENT

ACROSS AND WENT DOWN THE OTHER

SIDE AND THE UNBELIEVABLE THING

TO ME WAS HOW MANY SUPPORTERS

STOPPED ME, THANKED ME.

THERE WERE RAINBOW FLAGS AS WELL

AS IRISH FLAGS FLYING ALONG THE

SIDELINES, SO IT WAS REALLY

REALLY NICE.

>> THIS MIGHT BE A HARD QUESTION

FOR YOU TO ANSWER BECAUSE I'M

ASKING YOU TO SORT OF

PROGNOSTICATE.

KNOWING THE STRUGGLES THAT THE

LGBTQ COMMUNITY HAS ENGAGED IN,

ESPECIALLY TO BECOME PART OF

THESE OFFICIAL FUNCTIONS, IF YOU

WILL, AND THEN JUST OPPOSING

THAT, HOW DO YOU THINK YOUR

GROUP WOULD HAVE BEEN RECEIVED

IF THE ABILITY TO MARCH UNDER

YOUR PRIDE BANNER.

>> I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S

GOING TO BE INCREDIBLE WHEN IT

DOES HAPPEN.

I THINK SUPPORT THAT I HAVE SEEN

JUST, I KNOW WE WOULD HAVE BEEN

RECEIVED INCREDIBLY WELL.

JUST AS I WAS AT THAT BRUNCH

PRIOR TO.

I MEAN, THERE WASN'T A NEGATIVE

THING, NOTHING THAT CAME MY WAY

THAT DAY.

>> LAST QUESTION FOR YOU, THEN,

WHAT'S YOUR PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR,

ASSUMING YOU'RE GOING TO APPLY

IN MARCH NEXT YEAR.

WHAT DO YOU PLAN ON DOING

BETWEEN NOW AND THEN THAT MIGHT

HOPEFULLY CHANGE THE ATTITUDES

AND THE DECISIONS?

>> GREAT QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WITH ALL OF

THE VISIBILITY THAT HAS COME OUT

OF THIS, I'VE ALREADY HAD SOME

DISCUSSIONS WITH ELECTED

OFFICIALS ONE ON ONE.

AND I KNOW THAT THOSE WHO

DEFINITELY SUPPORTED US ARE

GOING TO HELP IN ANY WAY THEY

CAN.

I THINK THERE'S A STRATEGY THAT

WILL WE'LL COME UP WITH, AND AS

I MENTIONED, THE RELIGIOUS

LEADERS ACROSS STATEN ISLAND

WILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT AS

WELL.

THEY HAVE OFFERED FULL SUPPORT

IN ANY WAY THEY CAN, SO I THINK

COLLECTIVELY, WE'LL COME

TOGETHER ON THIS.

AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

>> WELL, WE'LL PLAN ON TALKING

WITH YOU AGAIN NEXT YEAR AS WE

GET CLOSE, AND WE'LL SEE WHERE

WE ARE.

>> WHEN I HAVE MARCHING SHOES ON

ME.

>> CAROL, ALWAYS GOOD TO TALK TO

YOU.

THANK YOU FOR SPENDING SOME TIME

WITH US.

YOU BE WELL.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>> A PASSIONATE SPEECH AT THE

VATICAN LATE LAST NIGHT, POPE

FRANCIS VOWED TO COMBAT SEXUAL

ABUSE IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH,

CALLING ON BISHOPS AROUND THE

WORLD TO LEAD A QUOTE, ALL OUT

BATTLE AGAINST THE ABUSE OF

MINORS.

THE SPEECH WAS THE CULMINATION

OF A HISTORIC FOUR-DAY SUMMIT

CONVENED BY THE POPE IN RESPONSE

TO A SERIES OF SCANDALS THAT

ROCKED THE CHURCH DURING HIS

PA

PAPALCY.

THE PICTURE THAT CAME OUT OF THE

MEETING WAS AMBIGUOUS, AND THERE

NOW APPEARED TO BE EVEN MORE

QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT COMES NEXT

FOR THE CHURCH AND FOR VICTIMS

OF CLERICAL ABUSE PAST AND

PRESENT.

AND JOINING US NOW TO TALK ABOUT

THIS IS MONSIGNOR JIM LISANTE,

HOST OF "PERSONALLY SPEAKING" IN

MASSAPEQUA PARK, LONG ISLAND.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING

US.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK.

>> FIRST OF ALL, MONSIGNOR, WHO

TOOK PART IN THE SUMMIT AND WHAT

WAS THE SUMMIT'S GOAL.

>> EACH COMPANY HAS A BISHOP'S

LEADERSHIP COUNCIL IF YOU WILL,

WE HAVE ONE IN AMERICA BASED IN

WASHINGTON, D.C., THE

PRESIDENT'S CARDINAL DENADO IN

HOUSTON.

ALL OF THE HEADS CAME TOGETHER

TO TALK ABOUT WHAT DO WE DO

NEXT?

>> AND THE GOAL WAS TO FIGURE

OUT WHAT TO DO NEXT.

>> TO LOOK BACK TO AND SEE WHAT

KIND OF RESPONSIBILITY DO WE

HAVE TO FIX THE PAST, AND WE

HAVE A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY.

IN YOUR INTRODUCTION, WE TALKED

ABOUT THIS BEING A FRANCIS

PROBLEM, BUT ACTUALLY, FRANCIS

HAS INHERITED THE PROBLEM.

>> IT EXPLODED DURING HIS

TENURE.

>> EXPLODED ON HIS WATCH, JOHN

PAUL II, BENEDICT, JOHN 23rd.

HAPPILY SINCE THE YEAR 2000, THE

NUMBERS HAVE GONE DOWN, WE'RE

PAYING FOR THE CRIMES OF THE

PAST.

>> YEAH.

FROM WHAT I READ INITIALLY, THE

SUMMIT WAS INTENDED TO DEAL NOT

ONLY WITH THE ABUSE OF MINORS

BUT ALSO WITH THE ABUSE OF AND

SEXUAL HARASSMENT OF YOUNG

ADULTS.

SUCH AS SEMINARNS AND YOUNG

PRIESTS, SOMETHING THAT CAME

GLAREINGLY TO LIGHT IN THE CASE

OF THEODORE McCARRICK CAME TO

PUBLIC.

HE APPARENTLY WAS A SERIAL

PREDATOR

PREDATOR FOR DECADES.

>> I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

THE COVER UP AND THAT'S WHAT THE

CHURCH HAS TO CONFRONT.

A GUY LIKE CARDINAL McCARRICK

DIDN'T GET TO BE A CARDINAL

WITHOUT PEOPLE KNOWING WHAT WAS

GOING ON.

TO BE NAMED AUKS SILLY OF NEW

YORK, AND ARCH BISHOP OF NEWARK

THIS WAS A MAN WITH A PROBLEM.

OVER TEN YEARS AGO, A GUY AT FOX

NEWS SAID HE HAD ENOUGH

INFORMATION ON THE CARDINAL TO

BLOW THE WHISTLE.

IF TEN YEARS AGO PEOPLE IN THE

MEDIA KNEW, THIS WAS AN OPEN

SECRET.

WHY DID THE CHURCH ALLOW IT TO

GO ON.

THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES FOR

POPE FRANCIS.

>> THE SUMMIT FOCUSSED ON THE

SEXUAL ABUSE OF MINORS IN THE

CHURCH, WHAT DID IT CONCRETELY

ACCOMPLISH DO YOU THINK?

>> I THINK, IF ANYTHING, IT'S

JUST FRANCIS SAYING, LOOK, THE

BUCK DOES STOP HERE, AND WE'VE

GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

THIS ISN'T ONE OF THOSE ISSUES

YOU CAN PR IT, AND IT'S GOING TO

GO AWAY.

IF WE DON'T CHANGE OUR WAYS AND

ADDRESS THE PAST AND CORRECT

WHAT WAS WRONG.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF A BISHOP WAS

RESPONSIBLE FOR COVERING UP,

THERE'S GOT TO BE

ACCOUNTABILITY.

IN THE DALLAS CHARTER THEY CAME

UP WITH EARLY IN THE CENTURY, WE

PRIESTS WERE CALLED ON THE

CARPET, YOU DO IT ONCE, YOU'RE

OUT.

THERE WAS NOTHING IN THERE,

NOTHING, RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE

BISHOPS COVERING UP.

SO IT'S GOT TO BE A CONSISTENT

ETHIC.

>> AND WHO WAS ONE OF THE

LEADING ARCHITECTURES OF THAT.

>> TED McCARRICK.

>> WHAT A SHOCK.

>> SO THE POPE'S CLOSING

REMARKS, EVERYONE AGREES THAT

THEY WERE POWERFUL WORDS

CONDEMNING CHILD ABUSE OF MINORS

IN AND OUT OF THE CHURCH: MANY

CRITICS, INCLUDING VICTIMS OF

ABUSE WERE DISAPPOINTED.

THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD HEARD

TOUGH TALK BEFORE AND THEY

WANTED TO SEE CONCRETE ACTIONS

SUCH AS I THINK YOU'VE TOUCHED

ON SOME OF THEM, THE

ESTABLISHMENT OF A PROCEDURE TO

HOLD BISHOPS ACCOUNTABLE,

INDEPENDENT OF THE BISHOPS AND

SO FEW CATHOLIC FAITHFUL, LET'S

FACE IT, HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT

THE BISHOPS CAN POLICE

THEMSELVES ANYMORE.

THE DEFROCKING OF BISHOPS WHO

HAVE PROTECTED PEDOPHILES OR

ABUSED SOME THEMSELVES OR YOUNG

ADULTS, THE OPENING OF THE

VATICAN ARCHIVES AND THE HANDING

OVER OF RELEVANT DOCUMENTS,

THESE ARE THINGS I HAVE CALLED

FROM VARIOUS CRITICS AND HERE IN

AMERICA THERE WAS A CALL AND A

HOPE THAT THERE WOULD FINALLY BE

A REAL INVESTIGATION OF THE

McCARRICK CASE.

TO FIND OUT AS YOU SAID HOW DID

IT HAPPEN, HOW COULD THIS MAN

RISE SO HIGH WHEN SO MANY PEOPLE

KNEW.

>> AND I'LL ADD ONE MORE THERE.

SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE WE HAVE

TO ADDRESS THE INVOLVEMENT OF

WOMEN MORE IN THE LEADERSHIP OF

THE CHURCH.

I'LL GIVE YOU EXAMPLE, EVERY

DIOCESE HAS A PERSONNEL BOARD

THAT PLACES PRIESTS.

CAN YOU IMAGINE IF WE HAD ONE

MOTHER ON EVERY PERSONNEL BOARD,

WAIT A SECOND, FATHER X DP THIS

IN THOWN AND YOU'RE GOING TO MOE

HIM TO THAT TOWN, ARE YOU CRAZY.

A WOMAN, A MOTHER WOULD SAY NO,

IF HE HURT KIDS, YOU DON'T PUT

HIM IN A NEW ASSIGNMENT.

WE DON'T USE WOMEN APPROPRIATELY

TO LET THEM SPEAK TO THE FUTURE

OF THE CHURCH.

I WOULD HOPE ONE OF THE THINGS

THAT COMES OUT OF THIS, AND I

THINK FRANCE SIS IS OPEN TO

THIS, GREATER INVOLVEMENT BY

WOMEN IN THE LIFE OF THE CHURCH.

>> HOW COME THE LAST DAY OF THE

SUMMIT DIDN'T HAVE A LIST OF

THESE THINGS, WHAT I MENTIONED

AND WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED,

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO

FROM NOW ON, NO MORE EMOTIONAL

WORDS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS TOO.

I DON'T KNOW WHY IT DIDN'T

HAPPEN.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR ONE SIZE FITS

ALL WHEN IT COMES TO THE CHURCH.

A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY WOULDN'T IT

BE GREAT IF THEY CAME OUT OF THE

CONFERENCE AND EVERY PRIEST THAT

DID ANYTHING WRONG, REMOVED, AND

EVERY BISHOP THAT DID ANYTHING

WRONG, REMOVED.

IN AMERICA YOU HAVE DUE PROCESS,

IF SOMEONE IS BROUGHT FORTH WITH

A CRIME, THERE'S GOING TO BE A

PROCESS.

IF WE HAVE A GUY IN OUR VILLAGE

RESPONSIBLE FOR HURTING KIDS, WE

TAKE HIM OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE

AND END HIS LIFE.

THE LAW AND ORDER YOU ARE USED

TO IN EUROPE AND AMERICA IS NOT

UNIVERSAL, SO ONE SIZE DOESN'T

FIT ALL.

THERE ARE PARTS OF THE WORLD

WHERE CHILD ABUSE ISN'T JUST A

CRIME THAT WE REMOVE YOU FROM

THE PRIESTHOOD, IT COULD BE A

DEATH SENTENCE.

SO HE'S DEALING WITH, POOR

FRANCIS, GOD BLESS HIM.

>> AS YOU KNOW BETTER THAN

ANYONE.

THE THING THAT MAKES THE CHURCH

POWERFUL IS ITS MORAL AUTHORITY.

WITHOUT ITS MORAL AUTHORITY.

>> WHICH IT'S SHOT AT THIS

POINT.

>> IT'S GOT NO POWER.

DO YOU THINK THIS SUMMIT IN ANY

WAY CONTRIBUTED TO INCREASING OR

GIVING A REBIRTH TO THAT?

>> IT'S A FIRST STEP BACK BUT

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE

POWER WE USED TO HAVE BECAUSE IT

IS THE POWER OF PERSUASION, AND

I GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID A

MOMENT AGO, IF YOU LOOK THROUGH

THE GOSPELS, THE CONSISTENT SIN

THAT JESUS MENTIONS IS NOT ABOUT

STEALING, IS NOT ABOUT SEXUAL

ASSAULT, IT'S ABOUT HYPOCRISY

AND THE CHURCH'S GREAT SIN IS

THAT WE HAVE BEEN HYPOCRITES, WE

HAVE BEEN SAYING ONE THING AND

PRACTICING ANOTHER.

FOR INSTANCE, OUR TEACHING ON

THE ETHIC OF LIFE, THE

CONSISTENT ETHIC OF LIFE FROM

THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION TO THE

MOMENT OF NATURAL DEATH, LIFE IS

SACRED, IF YOU'RE NOT PROTECTING

THE KIDS, YOU DON'T MEAN IT.

AND JESUS SAYS WHOA TO THE MAN

WHO HURTS THE LITTLE ONE, A MILL

STONE SHOULD BE TIED AROUND HIS

NECK AND THROWN IN THE RIVER.

>> ARE YOU OPTIMISTIC THAT THE

CHURCH WILL DO WHAT IT NEEDS TO?

>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.

IT WON'T GO AWAY.

THE VICTIMS GROUPS ARE KEEPING

US ACTIVE IN TERMS OF NOT MAKING

THIS BURIED UNDER THE CARPET.

I KNOW THE CHURCH LIKE ANY HUMAN

INSTITUTION CAN SAY WE HAVE

MANAGED THIS, NOW WE CAN GO ON.

WE NEED CHANGES.

ONE OF THE THINGS I HOPE WILL

COME OUT OF THIS IS A TRUE

DISCUSSION ABOUT A CLERGY THAT'S

BOTH MARRIED AND SELL CELIBATE.

IF WE HAVE THIS SHORTAGE IN

AMERICA, WHICH WE DO, THERE ARE

STEPS WE CAN TAKE, RAFAEL, MY

BIG THING IS LET'S HOLD OUR FEET

TO THE FIRE AND NOT BACK OFF.

THIS ISN'T A PASSING PROBLEM.

THIS CAN BE A PROBLEM FOREVER

UNLESS WE TRULY ADDRESS IT AND

PURGE OURSELVES OF HYPOCRISY.

>> THANK YOU MONSIGNOR.

>> "METROFOCUS" IS MADE POSSIBLE

BY JAMES AND MERRYL TO THE BEST

OF MY RECOLLECTION.

SUE AND EDGAR WALK -- MERRYL

TISH.

ROSLYN P. WALTER.

BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG AND BY:


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