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MetroFocus: July 6, 2020

NYS Senator Brad Hoylman joins us to discuss the outlook for New York as phase 3 of the reopening gets underway on July 6th. He will also discuss his new bill just signed into law that will protect from eviction for unpaid rent- New Yorkers who can prove financial hardship during the COVID-crisis.

AIRED: July 06, 2020 | 0:28:22
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>>> THIS IS METROFOCUS WITH -RA

JENNA FLANAGAN.

METROFOCUS IS MADE POSSIBLE

BY --

WELCOME TO METROFOCUS.

I AM RAFAEL PI ROMAN.

AS NEW YORK CITY ENTERS THE

THIRD PHASE OF THE REOPENING,

NEW YORK ALONG WITH THE REST OF

THE COUNTRY CONTINUES TO

STRUGGLE WITH SYSTEMIC RACISM

AND ALL THAT ENTAILS.

HERE IN THE CITY AND IN ALBANY

LAWMAKERS ARE TACKLING BOTH

UNPRECEDENTED CRISES WHILE

ADDRESSING THE PANDEMIC AND

RACISM.

JOINING US NEW YORK STATE

SENATOR, DEMOCRAT REPRESENTING

THE 27th DISTRICT.

SENATOR, THANKS SO MUCH FOR

JOINING US TODAY.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> SENATOR, LET ME START WITH

THIS.

TODAY MARKS THE START OF PHASE

THREE OF NEW YORK CITY'S

REOPENING, ALONG WITH SUCH

THINGS AS NAIL SALONS AND TATTOO

PARLORS WAS SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE

INDOOR DINING AND DRINKING, BUT

THAT PART HAS BEEN POSTPONED

FOLLOWING THE SPIKES IN

CORONAVIRUS IN STATES LIKE

TEXAS, CALIFORNIA, FLORIDA.

DO YOU THINK THE POSTPONEMENT

WAS THE RIGHT THING BY THE

GOVERNOR EVEN THOUGH WE HERE IN

THE CITY HAVE NOT WITNESSED SUCH

SIGNIFICANT SPIKES?

>> YES.

I DO.

YOU KNOW, I COMMEND THE GOVERNOR

AND THE MAYOR FOR THEIR ACTION

IN THIS REGARD.

THIS VIRUS DOES NOT RESPECT

STATE BORDERS.

WE HAVE SEEN THE SPIKES IN THE

SUN-BELT STATES AND ELSEWHERE

THAT SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE

DON'T HAVE THE VIRUS UNDER

CONTROL YET.

IT IS A WIDE ORGANISM AND IT IS

A CHALLENGE, I THINK, AS WE MOVE

FORWARD TO TRY TO SET UP GOALS

THAT MAY HAVE TO BE MOVED GIVEN

CONDITIONS OUTSIDE OF OUR

CONTROL.

SO BY DELAYING INDOOR DINING WE

HAVE TAKEN A PRUDENT STEP IN

PROTECTING THE PUBLIC'S HEALTH.

THE PUBLIC HEALTH HAS TO COME

FIRST AND THAT IS ONE OF THE

REASONS I AM CONCERNED ABOUT

BARS OUTSIDE OF MY DISTRICT

WHERE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND MASK

WEARING IS NOT FOLLOWED.

WE HAVE TO TAKE EVERY STEP, EVEN

THOUGH WE KNOW IT IS A HUGE HIT

TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES TO

PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH FIRST.

>> NEW YORK DAILY NEWS EDITORIAL

WROTE A FIERY OPINION PIECE IN

WHICH HE ESSENTIALLY ARGUED THE

GOVERNOR AND THE MAYOR SHOULD

GET OUT OF THE REOPENING

BUSINESS AND LEAVE IT TO NEW

YORKERS.

AFTER ALL WE NEW YORKERS STOPPED

GOING TO WORK BEFORE THEY TOLD

US TO AND STOPPED SENDING OUR

CHILDREN TO SCHOOL BEFORE THEY

TOLD US AND WE STARTED TO WEAR

MASKS WHEN THE FEDERAL EXPERTS

WERE TELLING US IT IS A BAD

THING TO DO.

>> IT IS TRUE THAT THE ADVICE WE

RECEIVED, ESPECIALLY FROM THE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM THE

HEALTH EXPERTS AT THE CDC HASN'T

BEEN PERFECT TO SAY THE LEAST.

BUT I DO KNOW THIS.

NEW YORK, YOU KNOW, HAS MANAGED

FAR BETTER THAN ANY OTHER STATE

WITH THE MOST CASES TO TRY TO

NAVIGATE OUR WAY THROUGH THE

VIRUS AND AT THE SAME TIME

BUILDING PUBLIC CONFIDENCE.

THAT IS LARGELY WHAT IT IS ABOUT

ALSO.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO GIVE

CREDIT TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE

CONTINUING TO SEE DECLINES IN

HOSPITALIZATIONS AND DEATHS.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SPIKES,

UNFORTUNATELY, AS WE HAVE SEEN

IN OTHER STATES.

AND WE COULD HAVE THEM HERE IN

NEW YORK STATE TOO.

BUT AT THE VERY LEAST WE NEED

GOVERNMENT AND THE RESOURCES OF

GOVERNMENT TO EXAMINE THIS

SITUATION FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH

AND SCIENTIFIC STANDPOINT AND

MAKE THE DETERMINATIONS.

NOTHING IS GOING TO BE PERFECT.

NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

I THINK WE HAVE SEEN A

CONTAINMENT OF THE WORST AT THIS

STAGE AND WITH CONTACT TRACING

AND MORE TESTING I AM HOPEFUL

THAT EVENTUALLY WE WILL GET TO

NORMAL.

IT IS GOING TO BE A NEW NORMAL.

BUT IT IS GOING TO BE

NORMALIZATION HOPEFULLY, YOU

KNOW, SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

>> YOU TALK ABOUT PUBLIC

CONFIDENCE AND USING SCIENCE AS

THE KEY AND AS THE MEASURE.

BUT GEORGE IN THAT FIERY OPINION

PIECE ARGUED THAT THE GOVERNOR

AND THE MAYOR ALONG WITH OTHER

PUBLICLY ELECTED OFFICIALS LOST

THE PUBLIC CONFIDENCE TO SOME

DEGREE AND KIND OF LOST MORAL

AUTHORITY WHEN THEY LARGELY

REMAINED SILENT OR ACTUALLY

ENDORSED THE BLACK LIVES MATTER

DEMONSTRATIONS WHEN FOR MONTHS

THEY WERE TELLING US THAT

SMALLER EVENTS OF THAT TYPE IF

WE PARTICIPATED IN THEM WE COULD

FELLOW KILL OUR NEW YORKERS.

DOES HE HAVE A POINT?

>> I THINK IF IT COMES FROM "THE

NEW YORK POST" THERE IS A --

>> THAT WAS THE DAILY NEWS.

>> OKAY.

REGARDLESS, OPINION PIECES OFTEN

HAVE A POLITICAL AGENDA.

I THINK THAT WHEN I WAS MARCHING

IN THOSE DEMONSTRATIONS AND

MAINTAINING A SOCIAL DISTANCE

AND WEARING MY MASK, I WITNESSED

MOST OF THE MARCHERS DOING THE

SAME THING.

THIS IS NOT A PERFECT WAY TO

MANAGE OUR WAY THROUGH A

PANDEMIC BUT LIFE INTERVENES,

POLITICS INTERVENES AND THIS

SOCIAL MOVEMENT OF POLICE REFORM

IS ONE OF THE GREATEST

DEMOCRATIC REVOLUTIONS OF OUR

LIFETIME.

SO I THINK THAT THE MARCHERS AND

PROTESTERS HANDLED THEMSELVES

INCREDIBLY RESPONSIBLY.

>> WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH

COVID-19 BUT THERE ARE OTHER

CRITICAL ASPECTS INVOLVED IN THE

PANDEMIC INCLUDING THE ECONOMIC

EFFECTS AND INCLUDING WHETHER

THOUSANDS OF NEW YORKERS WILL BE

ABLE TO KEEP THEIR HOMES.

NOW YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES IN

ALBANY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE

SURE THAT NEW YORK RENTERS DO

NOT BECOME HOMELESS.

>> WELL, THE GOVERNOR SIGNED IN

TO LAW LAST WEEK A VERY

IMPORTANT BILL THAT I AUTHORED

CALLED THE NEW YORK STATE TENANT

SAFE HARBOR ACT AND WHAT THAT

LEGISLATION WILL DO IS PREVENT

TENANTS WHO HAVE BEEN

ECONOMICALLY BURDENED BY

COVID-19 FROM BEING EVICTED FROM

THEIR APARTMENTS.

THE WORST THING IMAGINABLE IF

YOU ARE A TENANT AND YOU ARE

BATTLING ILLNESS OR SOMEONE YOU

KNOW IN YOUR FAMILY MIGHT BE.

YOU LOST YOUR JOB AND YOU ARE

TRYING TO GET UNEMPLOYMENT

INSURANCE.

YOU ARE HOME SCHOOLING YOUR KIDS

WHICH HAS BEEN SUCH A HEADACHE

FOR SO MANY OF US.

YOU KNOW IT IS JUST THE REALITY.

AND YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT

EVICTION.

THAT IS A PERFECT STORM FOR ANY

NEW YORKER.

SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THE

LEGISLATION IS THAT WE PREVENTED

THAT FROM HAPPENING, AT LEAST

DURING THE COVID-19 PERIOD.

YOU WON'T BE EVICTED FROM YOUR

HOME OR INABILITY TO PAY RENT OR

PAST DUE RENT.

AS WELL AS PUTTING FORWARD $100

MILLION OF FEDERAL AID THAT

COULD BE FUNNELED FOR RENTAL

ASSISTANCE.

BUT WE HAVE TO DO MUCH MORE AND

NOT JUST FOR RESIDENTIAL TENANTS

BUT COMMERCIAL TENANTS TOO.

THAT $100 MILLION WILL RUN OUT

QUICKLY AND I BELIEVE IT WILL

TAKE TENANTS MUCH LONGER THAN

JUST DURING THE COVID-19 SHUT

DOWN PERIOD TO GET BACK ON THEIR

FEET AND GET HEALTHY AND START

MAKING MONEY SO THEY CAN PAY

THEIR RENT.

WE NEED HELP FROM THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT AND WE NEED IT NOW.

I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE WHAT

THEY CAN WORK OUT WITH THE

SENATE AND IF WE DON'T WE HAVE

TO LOOK TO OUR OWN COFFERS HERE

IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK BECAUSE

PEOPLE ARE HURTING.

WE DON'T WANT TO THROW OUT FOLKS

FROM THEIR HOMES DURING THE

WORST PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS OF

OUR LIFETIME.

>> AS YOU KNOW SOME PEOPLE SAY

THAT NOTHING SHORT OF TOTAL

CANCELLATION OF RENT DURING THE

PERIOD OF THE COVID CRISIS WILL

SUFFICE IN ORDER OR WILL PREVENT

THOUSANDS OF NEW YORKERS FROM

LOSING THEIR HOMES.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT

IDEA, A CANCELLATION OF RENT FOR

THE PERIOD OF COVID?

>> WELL, I AM CERTAINLY FOR THAT

KIND OF SIGNIFICANT ABATEMENT.

IF YOU ARE A SMALL LANDLORD, YOU

ARE GOING TO HAVE A MORTGAGE AND

IT IS A CASCADING EFFECT.

YES, WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE

CAN FOR TENANTS BUT ALSO NEED TO

WORRY ABOUT THE LANDLORD WITH A

MORTGAGE TO PAY AS WELL AND WHO

HAS A BANK BREATHING DOWN HIS OR

HER NECK.

SO, THIS IS NOT A SIMPLE

EQUATION.

BUT THE CANCEL RENT MOVEMENT, I

THINK, IS A BANNER FOR WHAT WE

ARE STRIVING FOR AND THAT IS

FAIRNESS, EQUITY AND HUMANITY

AND PROTECTING PEOPLE IN THEIR

HOMES.

>> THE LANDLORDS, A LOT OF THEM

ARE NOT BIG BILLIONAIRES WITH

MULTIHIGH-END BUILDINGS.

JULY 1st WAS A DEADLINE FOR THEM

TO PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.

6% DIDN'T PAY IT AT ALL.

39% COULD ONLY PAY PART OF IT.

THAT IS $30 BILLION IN REVENUE

THAT THE CITY DEPENDS ON.

>> WE NEED ASSISTANCE FOR

LANDLORDS, FRANKLY.

THE SMALLER ONES WILL NEED

MORTGAGE RELIEF.

ALBANY NEEDS TO WORK WITH THE

FEDS IN ORDER TO CREATE THAT

CHANNEL TOO.

WE CAN ALSO HELP TO RELIEVE SOME

OF THE LANDLORDS OF THEIR

PROPERTY TAXES DUE.

AGAIN.

SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY

FOR IT.

WE DON'T WANT TO FOREGO PROPERTY

TAXES IF THAT MEANS WE ARE

CUTTING SOCIAL SERVICES FOR THE

MOST VULNERABLE.

WE ARE LOOKING TO THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT.

AND IT IS REALLY QUITE AGONIZING

CONSIDERING WHAT WE KNOW IS

HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON AND WHO

WE HAVE TO RELY ON IN WASHINGTON

AT THIS CRITICAL JUNCTURURE OF

OUR STATE AND CITY'S FISCAL

SITUATION.

BUT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO

THE BEST WE CAN.

>> LET'S TURN TO THE ISSUE OF

SYSTEMIC RACISM AND THE

DEMONSTRATIONS THAT ROCKED THE

COUNTRY IN WAYS WE HAVE NOT SEEN

IN A GENERATION.

SENATOR, WHERE DO YOU THINK THE

BRUTAL DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD AT

THE HANDS OF MINNEAPOLIS POLICE

HAD SUCH SEISMIC EFFECTS?

>> THANKS TO MODERN TECHNOLOGY

WE HAD THE HORRIFIC INCIDENT ON

VIDEOTAPE.

YOU THINK OF THE NUMBER OF

GEORGE FLOYDS THAT MUST HAVE

EXISTED THROUGHOUT RECENT

HISTORY.

IT IS AGONIZING TO REFLECT ON

THAT.

THE CAPTURING OF THAT IMAGE, I

THINK, RESONATED WITH

INDIVIDUALS ACROSS OUR COUNTRY,

BLACK AND WHITE AND REALLY

RESONATED BECAUSE IT REPRESENTED

WHAT MANY BELIEVE TO BE THE TIP

OF THE ICEBERG AND WHAT MANY

BLACK AND BROWN INDIVIDUALS HAVE

EXPERIENCED THROUGHOUT HISTORY

AND IN CONTEMPORARY TIMES.

AND A REPRESENTATION OF THE

CALLISNESS AND THE BRUTALITY BY

WHICH LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS

TREATED PEOPLE OF COLOR,

PARTICULARLY BLACK MEN.

>> IS IT JUST THAT IT WAS MUCH

MORE GRAPHIC.

OR SOMETHING ELSE SHIFTED.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW I HAVE TO GIVE

CREDIT TO THE PROTEST MOVEMENT.

AND CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, THE FACT

THAT PEOPLE MARCH ED AT ERIC

GARNER'S TRAGIC DEATH AT THE

HANDS OF A POLICEMEN AND GEORGE

FLOYD'S TOO.

I THINK THAT MEANS THAT THE

MOVEMENT HAS BEEN LEADING THE

POLITICIANS AND LOOK.

YOU HAVE NOW SOCIAL MEDIA IN A

WAY THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD

PREVIOUSLY.

WE HAVE A FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION

THAT IS OPENLY NOT JUST HOSTILE

TO BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE AND

IMMIGRANTS BUT IT IS OUTRIGHT

RACIST AND BIGOTED.

YOU REALLY ALSO HAD AN

UNDERS

UNDERSTANDING AMONG SO MANY

AMERICANS THAT THIS IS A SYSTEM

THAT IS SO TOXIC AND UNDERMINES

THE FUNDAMENTAL COMPONENTS OF

DEMOCRACY THAT IT CALLS FOR

CHANGE.

THAT IS WHY I THINK THE

PROTESTERS AND SO MANY YOUNG

PEOPLE OF ALL BACKGROUNDS

DESERVE SO MUCH CREDIT FOR

TAKING TO THE STREETS AND

CALLING FOR THIS MOVEMENT.

I AM SO PROUD THAT IN ALBANY WE

PASSED TEN BILLS, RIGHT, IN THE

MIDDLE OF THE PROTESTS.

>> TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> YEAH.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BILLS THAT

WAS SO IMPORTANT REPRESENTED

PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST

EGREGIOUS COMPONENTS OF THE

VIOLENCE TOWARDS MINORITIES

WHICH WAS SECTION 58 OF THE

CIVIL RIGHTS LAW THAT SHIELDED

POLICE PERSONNEL RECORDS FROM

PUBLIC SCRUTINY AND FROM THE

PRESS AND PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND

THE PUBLIC.

AND WE OVERTURNED THAT, FINALLY,

AFTER 30 PLUS YEARS.

AS WELL AS PASSING BILLS LIKE

THE BILL THAT I SPONSORED CALLED

THE POLICE STAT ACT WHERE THE

POLICE STATISTICS AND TRA

TRANSPARENCY ACT.

UP UNTIL THIS POINT THERE WAS NO

SYSTEMIC WAY OF COLLECTING THAT

INFORMATION.

AND LOCAL POLICE FORCES, BELIEVE

IT OR NOT, WERE ACTUALLY COMBING

THROUGH NEWS CLIPPINGS AND

GOOGLING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE

DEATHS IN CUSTODY LOOKED LIKE TO

BE COLLECTED BY THE STATE

DIVISION OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE

SERVICES.

NOW WE ARE GO TO REPORT THAT TO

THE STATE OF NEW YORK AND

UNDERSTAND WHO IS BEING ARRESTED

AND WHO IS DYING IN CUSTODY.

I THINK THAT WILL GIVE US A LOT

OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED

TO PERFECT AND IMPROVE OUR

POLICING AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

>> DEFUNDING THE POLICE IS THE

ONE CLEAR DEMAND OF THE BLACK

LIVES MATTER MOVEMENT.

ONE IS AROUND THE COUNTRY

INCLUDING HERE IN THE NEW YORK

CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL WITH

THE SUPPORT OF THE MAYOR AND THE

NYPD BUDGET WAS CUT BY ABOUT A

BILLION DOLLARS.

THERE IS SOME DISPUTE ABOUT

THAT.

GENERALLY THE DEFUNDING THE

POLICE SOLUTION, ARE YOU IN

FAVOR OF IT?

>> I AM DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF

DEFUNDING AND REINVESTING

ELSEWHERE BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN

THAT THROWING MONEY AT LAW

ENFORCEMENT IS THAT IT EMPOWERS

THEM TO CONTINUE TO PERSECUTE

AND TO TREAT COMMUNITIES OF

COLOR WITH THE DISRESPECT THAT

WE HAVE SEEN AND I HEARD THAT

NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

I PREFER THE TERM, YOU KNOW,

DIVEST AND REINVEST ELSEWHERE.

BUT HOWEVER YOU DESCRIBE IT, IT

IS A MATTER OF USING NEWER

TECHNIQUES TO DIVERT MONEYS THAT

HAVE BEEN USED ON THINGS LIKE

POLICE EQUIPMENT AND NEW

RECRUITS TO MORE COMMUNITY-BASED

SOLUTIONS TO STOP CRIME AND TO

PROMOTE SOCIAL JUSTICE AND TO

PROTECT PEOPLE IN THEIR

COMMUNITIES IN THE FIRST PLACE.

AND IT IS REALLY THE OPPOSITE.

IT IS THE OPPOSITE OF BROKEN

WINDOWS POLICING WHERE YOU

ARREST EVERYONE FOR THE LOWEST

LEVEL CRIME.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MONEY THAT

IS CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR THAT

STRATEGY AND INVESTING IN

COMMUNITIES AND SUPPORTING

SOCIAL SERVICES.

>> BY THE WAY, QUICKLY, YOU ARE

A STATE SENATOR.

LET ME JUST ASK YOU.

SOME CRITICS SAY WHAT THE CITY

COUNCIL DID HERE IN NEW YORK,

THEY JUST MOVED FROM ONE AREA TO

THE OTHER.

IS THAT FAIR?

>> IT MIGHT BE FAIR.

I THINK THAT IT DESERVES FURTHER

ANALYSIS AT THIS STAGE, YOU

KNOW.

YOU ARE RIGHT.

I AM NOT A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

A COUPLE OF -- LOOK, THE $1

BILLION CUT COULDN'T JUST BE

MOVING THE CHAIRS ON THE

TITANIC.

BUT THE RECOGNITION OF THE

PROBLEM, I THINK, IS A GOOD

PLACE TO BEGIN LOOKING AT A

WHOLESALE ATTEMPT TO DIVERT

FUNDING IN A WAY THAT IS

MEANINGFUL AND IT BUILDS TRUST

AMONG MEMBERS OF OUR

COMMUNITIES.

THAT IS REALLY WHAT IS

NECESSARY.

SO, WHILE IT MAY NOT HAVE

ACHIEVED EVERYTHING THAT IT SET

OUT TO DO TO BEGIN WITH.

THAT IS A CREDIT TO THE COUNCIL

FOR TAKING THE FIRST STEP.

THEY PROBABLY COULD HAVE DONE

MORE.

AND AS A COLLEAGUE IN THE

LEGISLATURE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE

THEM TO DO SO.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE ARGUMENT THAT

WITH KILLINGS UP NEARLY 25% FROM

LAST YEAR IN NEW YORK CITY AND

SHOOTINGS NEARLY DOUBLED.

AND WITH THIS WEEKEND, THIS JULY

THE FOURTH WEEKEND WE JUST SAW.

OVER, I THINK AND CORRECT ME IF

I AM WRONG, OVER 40 SHOOTINGS

AND NEARLY 10 KILLINGS.

THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT THE RIGHT

TIME TO BE CUTTING THE NYPD.

HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT.

>> I RESPOND BY THE FACT THAT WE

STILL HAVE A SCOURGE OF ILLEGAL

GUNS IN THE CITY AND THE STATE

OF NEW YORK.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO

PASS BILLS TO CRACKDOWN ON

ILLEGAL GUN OWNERSHIP AND THE

TRANSFER OF GUNS FROM OTHER

STATES TO NEW YORK.

LOOK, THE FACT THAT WE STILL

HAVEN'T ESTABLISHED OUR

AMMUNITIONS DATABASE WHICH WAS

PART OF THE ORIGINAL SAFE ACT,

YOU KNOW, THE STRONGEST GUN LAWS

IN THE COUNTRY.

BUT WE NEED TO TRACK AMMUNITION.

THERE IS MUCH MORE THAT WE NEED

TO DO ON GUNS.

THAT IS REALLY ALBANY'S

RESPONSIBILITY.

I HOPE THAT WE CONTINUE TO PASS

LEGISLATION.

I AM SPONSORING A BILL, RAFEAL,

THAT WOULD BAN GHOST GUNS.

GUNS THAT ARE UNDETECTABLE AND

UNTRACEABLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T

HAVE SERIAL NUMBERS AND SOME CAN

BE MADE AT HOME THROUGH COMPUTER

3D IMAGING SOFTWARE.

YOU KNOW, IT IS TRUE.

GUNS ARE THE MAJOR PROBLEM.

AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY YOU

POUR INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT,

UNLESS YOU HAVE LAWS CRACKING

DOWN ON ILLEGAL GUN OWNERSHIP

YOU WOULD HAVE THESE RESULTS.

>> THE FORMER NYPD CHIEF OF

PATROL -- THIS IS THE WRONG

THING TO DO.

IT IS THE WRONG THING TO DO

BECAUSE THE FUNDAMENTAL

UNDERLYING ISSUE THAT IT CAUSES

SYSTEMIC RACISM.

THEY WERE POOR HOUSING, NOT

ENOUGH GOOD JOBS AND ELECTED

OFFICIALS CAN LOOK AT THAT.

THE UNDERLYING FUNDAMENTAL

PROBLEMS THAT THE NYPD HAVE LIKE

THE REST OF US.

>> HE IS RIGHT TO THE EXTENT

THAT SYSTEMIC RACISM IS, IN MY

OPINION IS RELATED TO POVERTY

AND DISCRIMINATION AND IT GOES

FAR DEEPER THAN JUST OUR MEN AND

WOMEN THAT WEAR UNIFORMS WITH A

SWORN ALLEGIANCE TO PROTECT THE

PUBLIC.

NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

BUT WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT A

BUDGET SITUATION LIKE WE HAVE IN

THE CITY AND THE STATE OF NEW

YORK, AND YOU SEE HOW MUCH MONEY

WE ARE PUTTING INTO LAW

ENFORCEMENT AND YOU ARE LOOKING

AT CUTTING PROGRAMS LIKE SUMMER

YOUTH PROGRAMS AND INTERNSHIPS.

I THINK IT IS TIME THAT WE LOOK

AT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CUT SOME

OF THAT MONEY TO PUT INTO OUR

COMMUNITY-BASED SERVICES AND

PROGRAMS TO HELP YOUNG PEOPLE

AND THE MOST VULNERABLE.

THAT IS SMART BUDGETING.

THE HEADLINE DEFUND THE POLICE

IS CONTROVERSIAL.

LOOK UNDERNEATH THE HEADLINE AND

WHAT THE NEEDS ARE IN THE

COMMUNITIES AND I THINK WE WILL

ARRIVE AT THE SAME CONCLUSION.

>> YOU ARE THE ONLY OPENLY GAY

SENATOR IN THE NEW YORK SENATE

AND YOU HAVE TAKEN THE LEAD TO

FIGHT FOR LGBTQ ISSUES.

NEW YORK IS A VERY LIBERAL

LEGISLATURE.

ARE THERE ANY ISSUES YOU STILL

HAVE TO FIGHT FOR AND TACKLE.

>> WE CERTAINLY DO.

WE MAY HAVE ELECTED A NEW ONE

ONCE THE FINAL TALLIES ARE

FINISHED UP IN BROOKLYN.

BUT I WILL SAY THIS THAT THERE

IS SO MUCH MORE WORK TO DO AND

PARTICULARLY WHEN WE HAVE SUCH A

HOSTILE FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION

AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

STATES THAT WANTS TO STOP LGBTQ

PEOPLE FROM RIGHTS TO ADOPT

CHILDREN AND WHEN THE POLICE IN

THE CITY AND THE STATE OF NEW

YORK BASICALLY HAVE A LICENSE TO

STOP AND FRISK BLACK TRANSGENDER

WOMEN JUST BECAUSE THEY LOOK

DIFFERENT AND I HAVE LEGISLATION

THAT WOULD REPEAL THAT ARCHAIC

PROVISION OF OUR LAW.

NO LONGER POLICE WOULD BE ABLE

TO PROFILE TRANSGENDER WOMEN WHO

THEY CONSIDER TO BE LOITERING

FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROSTITUTION.

>> ALL OF THE CRISES THAT WE ARE

FACING, THE COVID PANDEMIC,

SYSTEMIC RACISM AND EVERYTHING

ELSE.

WHERE WILL WE BE IN A YEAR?

>> I THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE

STRONGER AS A STATE AND AS A

CITY.

I REALLY DO BELIEVE IT.

I THINK IN NOVEMBER THERE WILL

BE A MOMENT IN ALL OF POLITICS.

THIS HAS BEEN A CRISIS BUT A

CRISIS THAT HAS SHOWN THAT

LEADERS ARE RISING TO THE

CHALLENGE AND MANY ARE FAILING.

THOSE FAILINGS ARE GOING TO BE

EVIDENT AT THE BALLOT BOX.

>> ALL RIGHT SENATOR, WE HAVE TO

END IT THERE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY

AND ALL OF THE GOOD WORK YOU DO

IN ALBANY.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING

ME RAFEAL.

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