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METROFOCUS: April 12, 2021

Our Frontpage Forecast panelists CUNY Professor and former President of the New York City Board of Elections, J.C. Polanco, New York Daily News editorial board member Laura Nahmias and Rutgers University Associate Professor of Political Dr. Saladin Ambar discuss the Derek Chauvin murder trial in the death of George Floyd as well as the latest headlines from across the nation and the tristate.

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>>> THIS IS "METROFOCUS" WITH

RAFAEL P. ROMAN, JACK FORD AND

JENNA FLANAGAN.

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>>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO

THE "METROFOCUS" FRONT PAGE

FORECAST.

I'M JENNA FLANAGAN.

WE START OUR WEEKLY LOOK AHEAD

AT THE NEWSMAKING LOCAL AND

NATIONAL HEADLINES AND THEIR

POTENTIAL IMPACT ON THE

TRI-STATE WITH TWO OF THE

HOTTEST RACES IN NEW YORK

POLITICS AT THE MOMENT.

THE FIELD OF CANDIDATES VYING TO

REPLACE A WOUNDED GOVERNOR CUOMO

CONTINUES TO GROW.

REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN LEE

ZELDEN RECENTLY JUMPED INTO THE

2020 RACE AND RUDY GIULIANI'S

SON ANDREW IS ALSO EYEING A

POSSIBLE RUN.

WILL ANYONE BE ABLE TO BEAT TISH

JAMES IF SHE ULTIMATELY ENTERS

THE RACE?

SEVERAL MAYORAL CANDIDATES SEEM

TO HAVE SEPARATED THEMSELVES

FROM THE PACK, BUT WHO COULD

POSSIBLY WITHIN THEN THE DEMOCR

PRIMARY?

PLUS WE'LL CHECK IN ON THE TRIAL

OF DEREK CHAUVIN, THE FORMER

MINNEAPOLIS POLICE OFFICER

CHARGED WITH KILLING GEORGE

FLOYD AND HOW THAT TROIAL IS

IMPACTING NEW YORK'S MAYORAL

RACE.

WE HAVE JC POLANCO.

WELCOME TO "METROFOCUS."

>> I LOVE COMING ON.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

WE ALSO HAVE LAURA NAHMIAS.

LAURA IS AN EDITORIAL BOARD

MEMBER FOR THE NEW YORK DAILY

NEWS.

WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> OF COURSE, WE ARE JOINED BY

SALADIN AMBAR.

WELCOME, PROFESSOR AMBAR.

>> HEY, JENNA.

GREAT TO BE HERE.

>> LET'S START WITH THE

GOVERNORS RACE, WHAT'S SHAPING

UP TO BE THE 2022 GOVERNORS

RACE.

WE HAVE SEEN FROM THE REPUBLICAN

SIDE ZELDEN AND RUDY'S SON

ANDREW GIULIANI.

LAURA, I'LL START WITH YOU AND

JUST SAY WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THE

LIST OF REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES TO

SORT OF LOOK LIKE AS WE GET

CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE ACTUAL

CAMPAIGN YEAR?

>> WELL, I THINK LEE ZELDEN IS

CERTAINLY BETWEEN HIM AND ANDREW

GIULIANI IS THE PERSON WHO IS AT

THIS POINT A MORE CREDIBLE

CANDIDATE IF YOU'RE OPERATING

TRULY ON THE BASIS OF SOMEONE

WHO HAS ANY EXPERIENCE IN

ELECTED GOVERNMENT, WHICH ANDREW

GIULIANI DOES NOT.

35 YEARS OLD, NEVER HELD PUBLIC

OFFICE BEFORE.

BUT WE'VE SEEN THIS PROBLEM WITH

THE STATEWIDE REPUBLICAN PARTY

FOR YEARS NOW.

THEY'VE BEEN LOSING GROUND.

THEY'VE BEEN LOSING VOTERS.

THEY HAVEN'T WON A STATEWIDE

RACE SINCE -- CHECK ME, JC --

SINCE 2002?

THEY DON'T HAVE THE VOTERS THAT

THEY ONCE HAD.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND A

CANDIDATE WHO CAN CAPTURE SORT

OF DISAFFECTED DEMOCRAT VOTERS

OR UNAFFILIATED VOTERS IN

SUBURBS AND IN UPSTATE, BECAUSE

THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

YOU COULDN'T WIN REALLY WITH

JUST CAPTURING THE ENTIRE

REGISTERED REPUBLICAN BASE IN

THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

YOU HAVE TO GET SOME CROSSOVER

VOTERS WHO ARE EITHER

UNAFFILIATED OR DEMOCRAT AND

SORT OF THE FRINGE CANDIDATES OR

FRINGE POSITIONS HELD BY SOMEONE

LIKE LEE ZELDEN AND WE DON'T

EVEN KNOW WHAT ANDREW GIULIANI'S

POSITIONS ARE.

I DON'T KNOW THOSE WOULD

NECESSARILY CUT IT OR FIT THE

MOLD.

>> JC, YOUR THOUGHTS?

AGAIN, IT'S SO, SO EARLY, BUT

WE'VE SEEN THE STATE REPUBLICAN

PARTY STUMBLE SEVERAL TIMES WHEN

IT COMES TO CHOOSING A

CANDIDATE, ESPECIALLY TO GO UP

AGAINST THE CUOMO MACHINE,

SHOULD THAT BE THE CASE.

WHAT TO YOU SEE FOR THE

POTENTIAL OF THIS FIELD?

>> TO PIGGYBACK OF WHAT LAURI

MEN

-- LAURA MENTIONED, THERE'S NO

QUESTION THAT CONGRESSMAN ZELDEN

IS THE MOST CREDIBLE.

HE'S AN ATTORNEY, A VETERAN, A

FORMER STATE SENATOR.

THE QUESTION IS WHICH OF THE

REPUBLICANS CAN ATTRACT ABOUT

33% OF NEW YORK CITY.

THAT'S THE MAGIC FORMULA.

IN THE SUBURBS OF WESTCHESTER,

SOME PARTS HERE AND THERE ACROSS

NEW YORK, THE REST OF THE STATE

IS SOLID RED.

THAT'S JUST AN INCREDIBLE FACT.

YOU LOOK OUTSIDE OF ROCHESTER

PERHAPS WHERE YOU COULD GET THAT

BLUE DOT IN THE MIDDLE OF

UPSTATE, ALBANY YOU WILL GET

SOME DEMOCRATIC AREAS, BUT IF

YOU HAD A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE

THAT COULD CONNECT WITH ABOUT

33% OF THE NEW YORK CITY

ELECTORATE THEY HAVE A

FORMIDABLE CANDIDATE FOR

GOVERNOR.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE HEARD THE

END OF THE CANDIDATES.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM

ROB ASTERINO.

IN ORDER TO WIN STATEWIDE YOU'RE

GOING TO NEED A MODERATE

REPUBLICAN, SOMEONE THAT CAN GET

THE CROSSOVER APPEAL.

YOU HAVE SOME CANDIDATES THERE

THAT CAN, IN FACT, DO THAT.

DON'T IMMEDIATELY WRITE OFF THE

REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE RUNNING

STATEWIDE.

TO YOUR EARLIER POINT, JENNA,

THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT LEADING

THE DEMOCRATIC STATEWIDE TICKET

WILL BE ATTORNEY GENERAL JAMES

100%, FULL STOP.

I PUT ALL THE MONEY ON IT NOW.

>> PROFESSOR AMBAR, I KIND OF

WANT TO GET MAYBE A MORE

HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE FROM YOU.

THIS ISN'T EXACTLY THE EXACT

SAME SITUATION, BUT SEVERAL

YEARS AGO WE DID HAVE A

THREE-TERM GOVERNOR CUOMO WHO

WAS LOOKING FOR A FOURTH TERM

AND WAS UNSEATED BY GEORGE

PATAKI, A STATE NSENATOR FROM TE

HUDSON VALLEY.

IS THE GROUNDWORK SORT OF

SIMILAR OR IS THIS A COMPLETELY

DIFFERENT SITUATION AND ANY

WILDCARD IS POSSIBLE?

>> IT'S SIMILAR THAT I THINK

THERE'S SOME CUOMO FATIGUE.

YOU KNOW, GOING FOR A FOURTH

TERM IS ALWAYS DIFFICULT FOR

OBVIOUS AND GOOD REASONS IN

TERMS OF DEMOCRACY.

YOU KNOW, YOU GET TO MAKE YOUR

VASE FOR VOTERS OVER EIGHT AND

12 YEARS.

ASKING FOR 16 IS QUITE A LOT.

SO THERE HAS TO BE REALLY A

SIGNIFICANT REASON FOR THEM TO

ELECT YOU FOR A FOURTH TERM.

BUT WHAT'S DIFFERENT THIS TIME

IS THERE WAS A NATIONAL MOVEMENT

THAT BUOYED PATAKI TO UNSEAT

MARIO CUOMO.

AND I THINK THAT'S MISSING NOW.

IN FACT, ANDREW CUOMO'S

COMPETITORS, AT LEAST THE ONES

WHO HAVE INDICATED THEY'RE

RUNNING TO DATE, ARE REALLY PART

OF A KIND OF TRUMP COALITION.

THEY'RE REALLY NOT DISTANCING

THEMSELVES FROM DONALD TRUMP.

I THINK THAT HURTS THEM IN NEW

YORK.

TO JC'S POINT, GETTING THAT 33%

OUT OF NEW YORK CITY SEEMS

HARDER TO DO WITH THAT KIND OF

AFFILIATION.

WHAT PATAKI HAD WAS THE KIND OF

GLAMOUR OF BEING UNKNOWN,

IRONICALLY.

HE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF

NEGATIVES.

HE DIDN'T HAVE HIGH NAME

RECOGNITION, BUT HE ALSO WASN'T

AFFILIATED WITH THE DARK SIDE OF

NEWT GINGRICH THAT WAS TAKING

PLACE ON A NATIONAL LEVEL.

TO BORROW MARIO CUOMO'S TERM FOR

WALTER MONDALE, HE WAS POLENTA,

A RESPECTABLE FOOD STUFF BUT NOT

EXACTLY GLAMORGLAMOROUS.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A

PROBLEM FOR REPUBLICAN

COMPETITORS THIS TIME AROUND.

THERE'S NOT A NATIONAL WAVE

AGAINST WHAT JOE BIDEN IS

OFFERING OR WHAT DEMOCRATS ARE

OFFERING.

THERE IS REAL VULNERABILITY IN

ANDREW CUOMO.

YOU KNOW, AS SHAKESPEARE SAID,

WHEN PROBLEMS COME THEY COME IN

BATTALIONS.

HE'S GOT BATTALIONS OF PROBLEMS.

DO THEY HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S

NEUTRAL ENOUGH TO TAKE ADVANTAGE

OF THEM, OR ARE THEY TOO

AFFILIATED WITH DONALD TRUMP TO

WIN THOSE IMPORTANT VOTERS OUT

OF NEW YORK AND IN THE SUBURBS.

>> THERE'S ALSO TO REMEMBER.

NEW YORK CURRENTLY HAS ONE-PARTY

RULE.

THAT DOESN'T SIT TOO WELL WITH

MOST OF NEW YORK, I DON'T THINK.

NOT TO PICK ON CERTAIN SPECIFIC

ISSUES THAT I THINK MOST NEW

YORKERS OUTSIDE OF NEW YORK CITY

AND EVEN WITHIN NEW YORK CITY

MAY HAVE WITH THE ONE-PARTY

RULE.

IN THIS LAST BUDGET WE SEE SOME

THINGS THAT IF A REPUBLICAN

CANDIDATE THAT'S A MODERATE CAN

DISCUSS ABOUT THINGS AS FAR AS

TAX HIKES AND HOW WE'VE LOST

ALMOST 2 MILLION NEW YORKERS

SINCE 2010 AND INCREASING TAXES

ON THOSE PAYING ABOUT 80% OF THE

TAX TO THE STATE ARE BEING

AFFECTED BY THE HIKE.

THE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS IN

OUR STATE, I CONSTANTLY ADVOCATE

FOR THEM.

I DON'T KNOW HOW NEW YORKERS ARE

GOING TO FEEL WHEN THEY'RE

HAVING A HARDSHIP FINANCIALLY

AND THIS LAST BUDGET HAS GIVEN

SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS TO

AFFECTED WORKERS.

THERE ARE SO MANY ISSUES OUTSIDE

OF OUR ECHO CLHAMBER WHERE MOST

OF US LIVE IN NEW YORK MAY BE AN

ADVANTAGE TO A MODERATE

REPUBLICAN RUNNING STATEWIDE.

>> MY OTHER QUESTION IS WE'RE

START OF TALKING ABOUT ALL OF

THIS AS IF IT PERHAPS IS A

FOREGONE CONCLUSION THAT CUOMO

WON'T BE RUNNING AGAIN.

HE'S SAID SEVERAL TIMES HE'S NOT

RESIGNING, BUT DOES ANYONE SEE A

REALISTIC MOUNTING OF A FOURTH

TERM CAMPAIGN OR PERHAPS COULD

THERE HAVE BEEN PERHAPS A DEAL

MADE BEHIND THE SCENES DURING

ALL OF THIS TUMULT GOING ON

AROUND THE GOVERNOR THAT AN

AGREEMENT WAS MADE THAT PERHAPS

A FOURTH TERM WOULDN'T BE SOUGHT

AND PERHAPS IMPEACHMENT WON'T

ACTUALLY BE SOUGHT AS A RESULT?

>> I THINK AS A LONG TIME

STUDENT OF ANDREW CUOMO AS

GOVERNOR AT THIS POINT, A DECADE

IN OFFICE THAT I'VE BEEN

COVERING HIM, I CANNOT IMAGINE,

ALTHOUGH IT IS POSSIBLE, I CAN'T

IMAGINE THAT HE WON'T SEEK A

FOURTH TERM.

HIS PSYCHOLOGY, HIS ENTIRE BEING

IS SO WRAPPED UP IN THIS OFFICE

AND IN EMBODYING THIS OFFICE,

IT'S SOMETHING THAT HE HAS BEEN

FAMILIAR WITH FOR HIS ENTIRE

ADULT LIFE AND HE ALSO HAS THIS

ELEMENT OF COMPETITIVENESS WITH

HIS OWN FATHER, EVEN THOUGH HIS

OWN FATHER IS NO LONGER WITH US.

HE DIES SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

I THINK THAT BEATING HIS FATHER

TO THE FOURTH TERM IS SOMETHING

THAT REALLY MOTIVATES HIM STILL,

AND GIVING THAT UP WITHOUT BEING

ABSOLUTELY FORCED TO, I CAN'T

IMAGINE HIM DOING IT.

IT WOULD BE LIKE HOW A SHARK HAS

TO STAY MOVING TO SURVIVE IN THE

WATER.

I JUST CAN'T SEE HIM VOLUNTARILY

GIVING UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO RUN

AND WIN IF HE THINKS THAT HE CAN

RUN AND WIN.

THAT BEING SAID, IF HIS POLL

NUMBERS ARE TERRIBLE AND IF HE

THINKS HE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY

HUMILIATED AND THERE'S NO

QUESTION ABOUT IT, THAT'S MAYBE

THE ONLY CIRCUMSTANCE IN WHICH I

COULD SEE HIM GIVING SOMETHING

UP TO FORESTALL UNDERGOING SOME

KIND OF SEVERE HUMILIATION.

EVEN WITH THE BATTALIONS OF

SORROW, I CAN'T IMAGINE HIM NOT

SEEKING A FOURTH TERM.

>> PROFESSOR AMBAR, DOES THAT

TRACK WITH YOUR UNDERSTANDING?

>> WHAT LITTLE I HAVE WRITTEN

ABOUT ANDREW CUOMO GOES RIGHT TO

LAURA'S POINT PRECISELY.

I THINK THERE'S A COMPETITIVE

DRIVE THERE THAT GOES WAY BACK

IN TERMS OF HIS EFFORTS TO

OUTDISTANCE HIS FATHER ON THIS

SCORE AND ON ANY NUMBER OF

FRONTS, ABSOLUTELY.

I WILL SAY THIS, THOUGH.

AND THIS GETS TO THE ISSUE OF

CHARACTER.

I THINK FRANKLY A POINT OF

DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN THE

FATHER AND SON, MARIO CUOMO WAS

KNOWN NOT AS A PERFECT

POLITICIAN OR HUMAN, BUT

CERTAINLY SOMEONE WHO EXERCISED

GREAT RESTRAINT IN HIS LIFE,

SOMEONE WHO SAW VICTORY AS NOT

SIMPLY ABOUT WINS AND LOSSES

ELECTORALLY.

I THINK HE HAD A DIFFERENT KIND

OF PURPOSE ATTACHED TO HIS

POLITICAL LIFE THAN I THINK HIS

SON DOES AND I THINK THAT'S AN

IMPORTANT ELEMENT TO BRING TO

THIS.

I THINK HE WASN'T SOLELY DRIVEN

BY VICTORY ALONE.

AND I THINK THAT'S TO HIS

CREDIT.

I DO THINK ANDREW CUOMO SEES

VICTORY AS PART AND PARCEL OF

HIS BEING.

YOU KNOW, WINNING FOR HIM SAYS

SOMETHING ABOUT WHO HE IS AND I

DON'T THINK MARIO CUOMO HAD THAT

KIND OF NEEDINESS TO BE FRANK

ABOUT HIM.

HE SAID WHEN HE LOST, HE MADE

THE POINT THAT MY WHOLE FAITH IS

BUILT UPON A GUY WHO WAS

DEFEATED.

YOU KNOW, MARIO CUOMO HAD A

SENSE OF VICTORY THAT WAS

ASSOCIATED WITH PUBLIC SERVICE

RATHER THAN SIMPLE VICTORY AT

THE POLLS.

AND I THINK THAT'S A RARE THING

IN POLITICS AND I DON'T THINK WE

QUITE SEE THAT IN ANDREW, TO NOT

PUT TOO FINE A POINT ON IT.

>> I WILL SAY I THINK THAT'S THE

FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD NEEDINESS

ASSOCIATED WITH GOVERNOR CUOMO,

BUT OF COURSE WE WILL SEE HOW

THAT PLAYS OUT.

JC, I WANT TO TURN TO YOU WITH

OUR NEXT TOPIC.

THAT OF COURSE IS THE MAYORAL

RACE.

IN THE BEGINNING I DID REFERENCE

THAT NEW YORKERS WILL BE MAKING

THEIR CHOICE FOR WHO THEY WANTED

AS MAYOR.

THAT'S ME REFERENCING THE JUNE

22nd PRIMARY.

FROM YOUR STANDPOINT, THE

DEMOCRATIC FIELD STARTED OUT

VERY, VERY LARGE AND SOME PEOPLE

HAVE STARTED TO FALL OFF.

WHO DO YOU SEE AS A REALISTIC

FRONT-RUNNER FOR THE CITY?

>> WELL, IT DEPENDS.

IT REALLY SADDENS ME WHAT I'M

LOOKING AT IN THE POLLS.

I DON'T THINK DEMOCRATIC VOTERS

NOW HOW POWERFUL THEY REALLY ARE

IN NEW YORK CITY.

83% OF THEM IN THE PREVIOUS

PRIMARY ACTUALLY STAYED HOME.

THINK ABOUT THAT.

83% OF DEMOCRATS STAYED HOME IN

AN ELECTION WHERE THEIR PARTY

WILL MOST LIKELY WIN A GENERAL.

IF WE LOOK AT NEW YORK CITY

POLITICS, DEMOCRATS WIN ANYWHERE

FROM 95-97% OF ALL RACES IN NEW

YORK CITY.

IT BEHOOVES DEMOCRATS TO REALIZE

HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE AND ASK

THE QUESTION, WHO IS QUALIFIED

TO RUN FOR MAYOR AND WHO IS

QUALIFIED TO RUN OUR CITY

GOVERNMENT.

WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS I

LIKE BECAUSE HE'S FUN, THE

CAMPAIGN IS FUN, HIS COMPANY IS

FUN, THE RACIAL BACKGROUND,

ETHNIC BACKGROUND I LIKE.

YOU'RE NOT ASKING THE RIGHT

QUESTIONS.

WHO CAN RUN A BUDGET OF ALMOST

1$100 BILLION?

WHO CAN RUN OUR EVERYDAY AFFAIRS

SHOULD BE A QUESTION THAT I

THINK NEW YORK DEMOCRATS REALLY

NEED TO START ASKING THEMSELVES

AND GET OUT AND VOTE.

THERE IS NO EXCUSE WHY 83% OF

DEMOCRATS IN NEW YORK CITY STAY

HOME WHEN THERE'S SO MANY WAYS

THEY CAN VOTE TODAY.

AS FAR AS A FRONT-RUNNER, THIS

SHOULD BE A SCOTT STRINGER, RAY

McGUIRE, ERIC ADAMS RACE.

THEY HAVE PROVEN THEY CAN MANAGE

PEOPLE AND BUDGETS.

WE HAVE SEEN THEM IN ACTION.

THESE ARE CREDIBLE CANDIDATES

FOR MAYOR.

>> LAURA, I MEAN JC BRINGS UP

SOME EXCELLENT POINTS.

I DO WONDER IF MAYBE THIS

PREVIOUS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

CYCLE WHERE THERE WAS SUCH AN

EFFORT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE GOT

OUT AND VOTE AND GOT A CHANCE TO

VOTE AND KNEW WHERE TO VOTE AND

HOW TO VOTE, THAT THIS MIGHT BE

CHANGING THE ELECTORATE'S

INVOLVEMENT THIS TIME AROUND.

>> I HAVE TO HOPE SO.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS

THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE THE

LAST MAYORAL ELECTION.

IT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO VOTE IN

NEW YORK AND IT'S TRADITIONALLY

QUITE DIFFICULT.

IT'S HARD TO CHANGE PARTIES,

IT'S HARD TO REGISTER.

THERE ARE A BUNCH OF PRACTICES

PUT IN PLACE BY INCUMBENT

PARTIES TO PROTECT THEIR

INCUMBENT STATUS AND KEEP

THEMSELVES FROM BEING VOTED OUT

OF OFFICE.

SOME OF THAT HAS CHANGED AND

THAT SHOULD HELP, HOPEFULLY.

WE'VE SEEN THESE ELECTIONS

TRADITIONALLY BE DECIDED BY

HIGHLY-MOTIVATED VOTERS WHO TEND

TO BE MEMBERS OF UNIONS AND NOT

JUST THE REGULAR ELECTORATE.

I HAVE TO BELIEVE, I'M HOPING

THAT THE STAKES IN THIS ELECTION

FOR NEW YORK CITY ARE SO HIGH.

THEY'RE ALWAYS HIGH, BUT THAT

PEOPLE HAVE A REAL SENSE OF HOW

HIGH THE STAKES ARE.

THEY SAW WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT

THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE THAT LED

TO THE ELECTION OF de BLASIO AND

THERE'S SORT OF A WIDESPREAD

DISCONTENTMENT WITH HIM.

I JUST HOPE THAT MORE OF THEM

COME OUT TO VOTE.

FE

IF WE HAVE MORE THAN 20% TURNOUT

DURING THE PRIMARY, MAYBE IT'S

NOT A FOREGONE CONCLUSION WHO'S

GOING TO GET ELECTED.

>> WHAT BROUGHT BILL de BLASIO

INTO THE ELECTION WAS EXHAUSTION

FROM BLOOMBERG.

I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD GET

INTO THE VOTERS' MINDS A LITTLE

BIT IF PERHAPS THAT'S WHAT'S

DRAWING PEOPLE TO SAY A

CANDIDATE LIKE YANG BECAUSE HE

SEEMS LIKE THE OPPOSITE OF MAYOR

de BLASIO.

>> PERHAPS.

YANG HAS LOTS OF STRONG

FOLLOWERS AND THEY REALLY LOVE

HIM AND THERE'S A GREAT

ATTACHMENT THERE.

BUT HE ALSO HAS HIS SHARE OF

NEGATIVES.

HE'S NOT EXACTLY PROVEN HIMSELF

TO BE THE MOST NEW YORK OF NEW

YORKERS IN RECENT WEEKS.

THIS PRIMARY SEASON REMINDS ME

OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN IN 1860, NOT

THAT I'M OLD ENOUGH TO HAVE

REMEMBERED IT, BUT I'VE STUDIED

IT.

YOU KNOW, YOU'LL RECALL THAT

LINCOLN WON BECAUSE HE WAS THE

LEAST DISLIKED.

IT WAS A CROWDED FIELD AND THERE

WERE ABOLITIONIST FORCES AND

OTHERS WHO WERE MORE PRO

SLAVERY.

LINCOLN WAS KIND OF IN THE

MIDDLE.

THIS STRIKES ME AS AN

OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE LIKE

MAYA WILEY WHO HAS VERY FEW

STARK NEGATIVES AGAINST HER.

NOT A PERFECT CANDIDATE, BUT

MAYBE AMONG THE LEAST DISLIKED.

YOU CAN IMAGINE HER IN THE

MAYOR'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW, DOING

THE TASKS THAT NEED TO BE DONE,

BUT SHE ALSO FITS THE BILL OF

BEING A BLACK WOMAN IN A CITY

THAT OBVIOUSLY IS

DEMOGRAPHICALLY EXTRAORDINARILY

DIVERSE, MAYBE NOT AS

PROGRESSIVE AS SOME WOULD LIKE

HER TO BE, BUT NOT EXACTLY IN

THE CAMP OF WALL STREET IN THE

SAME WAY THAT OTHERS ARE.

SO PROGRESSIVES HAVE SOME ROOM

TO REACH OUT TO HER AND FEEL

SOMEWHAT COMFORTABLE.

I JUST THINK SHE AND PERHAPS

OTHER CANDIDATES FIT IN THAT

CATEGORY OF MAYBE NOT HAVING THE

INTENSE LOYALTY AND FOLLOWING,

BUT MAYBE LEAST DISLIKED.

IN A CROWDED FIELD THAT CAN MAKE

A DIFFERENCE.

I DO THINK HER BEING AN

AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN IN THIS

YEAR, IN THIS MOMENT, WHAT'S

GOING ON IN THE COUNTRY IS AN

ADVANTAGE TO HER POTENTIALLY

GOING FULL SWING INTO THE

CAMPAIGN HERE.

>> IF I MIGHT JUST ADD

SOMETHING, AFTER COVERING MAYOR

de BLASIO FOR MANY YEARS AT THIS

POINT, ONE THING I AM FRUSTRATED

WITH WITH THE COVERAGE OF THE

MAYORAL ELECTION IS THE FACT

THAT de BLASIO CAME INTO OFFICE

WITH BIG IDEAS.

HE HAD NO SHORTAGE OF THEM.

HIS INABILITY TO IMPLEMENT THEM,

EITHER THROUGH A LACK OF

ATTENTION TO DETAIL -- HIS FOCUS

WAS OFTEN IN WASHINGTON OR IOWA

OR ELSEWHERE -- OR HIS INABILITY

TO BUILD COALITIONS WITH LABOR

PARTNERS OR PEOPLE IN ALBANY OR

WASHINGTON, D.C.

THAT IS WHAT REALLY FRUSTRATED

HIS AGENDA.

SO ALL THE BIG IDEAS IN THE

WORLD MAY LOOK AND SOUND GREAT

ON PAPER AND MAY MAKE A

WONDERFUL SOUND BITE ON TWITTER,

BUT VOTERS NEED TO LOOK TO

SOMEONE WITH THE ABILITY AND THE

KNOW-HOW AND THE WISDOM TO

NEGOTIATE THE VERY FINE DETAILS

OF EACH OF THEIR IDEAS, OR ELSE

THOSE IDEAS ARE AS GOOD AS NOT

THERE.

>> IF I MAY, THAT'S THE POINT.

YOU NEED SOMEONE THAT HAS A

EXPERIENCE AND CAN PROVE TO NEW

YORKERS THEY CAN HANDLE THAT.

de BLASIO WENT IN WITHOUT HAVING

THAT EXPERIENCE OF MANAGING

BUDGETS AND STAFF AT THAT LEVEL.

WE GO FROM A DOZEN PEOPLE TO

ABOUT 36,000.

VOTERS HAVE TO ASK WHICH ONE OF

THESE CANDIDATES CAN DO THE JOB,

WHO HAS THE RESUME.

ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, VIEWERS

SHOULD KNOW THERE ARE TWO

INDIVIDUALS RUNNING FERNANDO

MATEO AND CURTIS SILWA.

IT'S BECOMING REALLY VOLATILE.

IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO

SEE WHO COMES OUT OF THAT

CAMPAIGN AND WHO'S GOING TO BE

ABLE TO BRING SOME CROSSOVER

APPEAL SO THEY CAN WIN A GENERAL

ELECTION.

IT'S AN UPHILL CLIMB.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, BUT WE'RE

MANY MONTHS AWAY FROM NOVEMBER.

>> OF COURSE, OF COURSE.

SO JC, I DID WANT TO TURN TO

YOU, BECAUSE YOU MADE A POINT

EARLIER TALKING ABOUT THE

GUBERNATORIAL ELECTION THAT

MIGHT APPLY TO NEW YORK.

THAT IS THE CHANGES IN

DEMOGRAPHICS.

THERE'S NO DENYING THAT THE

PANDEMIC HAS ALLOWED OR CAUSED

SOME PEOPLE TO MOVE AROUND THE

STATE, PERHAPS LEAVE THE STATE

ALL TOGETHER.

AND AT LEAST FOR THE MAYORAL

ELECTION, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT

THE VOTING DEMOGRAPHICS ARE THE

SAME AS THEY WERE FOR THE LAST

MAYORAL ELECTION AND HOW MUCH

SHOULD THAT WEIGH INTO THE WAY

THEY ARE CAMPAIGNING?

>> THE PEOPLE DECIDING THIS IS A

VERY SMALL SLIVER OF ACTIVISTS

AND UNION MEMBERS.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S CHANGED.

I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT ARE

DEDICATED TO THEIR UNIONS AND

LOCAL DEMOCRATIC CLUBS, THEY

HAVEN'T LEFT AND THEY'RE GOING

TO COME OUT AND VOTE.

UNFORTUNATELY, FOR THE REST OF

NEW YORK, HOWEVER, IT'S

IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE WE

CANNOT ALLOW FOR ELECTIONS TO BE

DECIDED BY THE FRINGES ON BOTH

SIDES OF THE AISLE.

WHEN WE GET OUT OF NEW YORK

CITY, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT

ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.

THE MOST FRINGE ELEMENTINGS OF

REPUBLICAN PARTY ARE DECIDING A

LOT OF THE ELECTIONS.

WE SEE THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT

NATIONALLY AND IN NEW YORK CITY

AS WELL.

WHEN WE ALLOW A SMALL GROUP OF

PEOPLE TO MAKE THE DECISION AS

TO WHO'S GOING TO ULTIMATELY WIN

AN ELECTION, WE'RE GOING TO GET

SOME FRINGE POLICIES COMING OUT

OF THAT GROUP.

WE SAW IT IN THE LAST BUDGET.

IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS NEW

YORK DECIDED TO LEGALIZE

RECREATIONAL USE OF MARIJUANA

WITHOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT HAVING

THE ABILITY TO CHECK IF DRIVERS

ARE UNDER THE IMPAIRMENT OF

MARIJUANA.

WE PUT THE CART BEFORE THE

HORSE.

THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OUT OF

MANY.

I WONDER WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN

IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS BECAUSE OF

THE FRINGE DECIDING ELECTIONS.

ARE WE GOING TO HAVE DECRIMINAL

AS

DECRIMINALATION OF SEX WORK IN

NEW YORK.

>> WHAT ARE THE STORY LINES

YOU'RE GOING TO BE WATCHING THIS

WEEK?

>> I'LL BE LOOKING AT THE DEREK

CHAUVIN TRIAL AND SEE HOW IT

INFLUENCES NOT ONLY THE

CANDIDATES' VIEWS AND POLICIES

AND PROJECTED POLICIES ABOUT

POLICING IN NEW YORK BUT ALSO

AROUND THE COUNTRY.

OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE NEW CASES

ARISING.

AN INCIDENT LAST NIGHT WITH SOME

HORRIFIC CONSEQUENCES IN THE

MIDWEST.

SO I'LL BE CONTINUING TO WATCH

THAT TRIAL AS PAINFUL AS IT IS,

CERTAINLY PAYING ATTENTION TO

THE OUTCOME AND WHAT'S BROUGHT

UP THROUGHOUT MOVING AHEAD.

>> WHAT ARE YOU WATCHING?

>> I'M LOOKING AT THE CHAUVIN

TRIAL AND THE CONSEQUENCES.

I THINK IT'S BRINGING A LOT OF

PEOPLE THAT NEVER WOULD HAVE

ADMITTED THAT WE HAVE SEEN

INJUSTS IICES IN THE PAST.

I THINK THIS TRIAL IS WAKING UP

A LOT OF PEOPLE.

>> LAURA, LAST WORD WITH 20

SECONDS?

>> READING MAYORAL CANDIDATES'

VERY LENGTHY POLICY BOOKS IN

DETAIL AND FINDING PLACES WHERE

THEIR PLANS MAKE NO SENSE OR ARE

NOT PLAUSIBLE AND PLANNING TO

FOLLOW UP WITH THEM ABOUT THAT.

>> WELL, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE

WORK OF YOUR FOLLOWING UP SO WE

CAN ALL BETTER UNDERSTAND WHERE

THESE CANDIDATES STAND, AS JC SO

ELOQUENTLY PUT IT.

I WANT TO THANK ALL OF MY

GUESTS, LAURA NAHMIAS, JC

POLANCO AND SALADIN AMBAR FOR

JOINING US.

>>"METROFOCUS" IS MADE POSSIBLE

BY --

SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III,

SYLVIA A. AND SIMON B. POYTA

PROGRAMING ENDOWMENT TO FIGHT

ANTI-SEMITISM.

THE PETER G. PETERSON AND JOAN

GANZ COONEY FUND.

BERNARD AND DENISE SCHWARTZ,

BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG, THE

AMBROSE MONELL FOUNDATION AND

BY --

JANET PRINDLE SEIDLER, JODY AND

JOHN ARNHOLD, CHERYL AND PHILIP

MILSTEIN FAMILY, JUDY AND JOSH

WESTON, AND THE DR. ROBERT C.

AND TINA SOHN FOUNDATION.


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