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Supportive and affordable housing in New York City, the role of the media in race relations and preserving memories of iconic Greenwich Village.

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>>> FROM THE WORLD'S LEADING

SENT FOREFINANCE, THE ARGUMENT

PUBLISHING, SCIENCE, RESEARCH,

MEDIA, INNOVATION AND MUCH MORE,

THIS IS "METROFOCUS" WITH RAFAEL

PI ROMAN

>>> TONIGHT, THE PLANS FOR

AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN A VERY

EXPENSIVE CITY

>> WE THINK THAT 200,000 UNITS

OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AFFORDABLE

FOR DECADES TO COME WILL BE

SIGNIFICANT DOWN PAYMENT O

WHOOF IS THE LARGER ISSUE.

>> EXAMINE RACE RELATIONS.

>> COME A LONG WAY

DISINGENUOUS TO SAY THINGS ARE

NOT DIFFERENT THAN THEY WERE 4

YEARS AGO, 50 YEARS AGO, AND A

BOOK ABOUT GREENWICH VILLAGE

THEN AND NOW WITH A MYSTERY ON

THE COVER.

>> A YOUNG MAN STANDING THER

THUMBING THROUGH SOME SORT O

BOOK, PERFECTLY CAPTURES THE

SPIRIT OF THE TIME, BUT WE DON'T

KNOW WHO THIS MAN IS

>>> FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM I

MADE POSSIBLE BY -

THE FORD FOUNDATION.

WORKING WITH VISIONARIES ON TH

FRONT LINES OF SOCIAL CHANGE

WORLDWIDE.

CORPORATE FUNDING FO

"METROFOCUS" IS PROVIDED BY --

MUTUAL OF AMERICA.

YOUR RETIREMENT COMPANY, AND B

THE FOLLOWING --

>>> ONE OF MAYOR BILL de

BLASIO'S BIGGEST CAMPAIG

PROMISE, MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING

IN THE CITY.

A LOT MORE

ALSO PLANNING TO REVAMP PUBLIC

HOUSING AND SHELTERS

FOR THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS

WHAT'S NEEDED GOES BEYON

SHELTER.

SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, AN IDE

STARTED IN NEW YORK IN THE 1990s

AND MAY BE MORE THAN JUST

HOUSING SOLUTION

>> COLORED IT GREEN A LITTLE

>> Reporter: SAMANTHA LOVES TO

DRAW

SHE HAS A PET TURTLE, AND HE

ROOM IS FILLED WITH PINK HORSES.

IT SEEMS ORDINARY ENOUGH FOR A

9-YEAR-OLD, UNLESS YOU SEE WHERE

SAMANTHA AND HER PARENTS SPENT

THE FIRST FEW YEARS OF HER LIFE.

>> HE CALLS IT THE UGLY HOUSE.

SO MANY MICE, AND I WAS SCARED

FOR HER, BECAUSE THEY'D COME

RIGHT ON THE BED

YEAH

IT WAS HORRIBLE.

>> Reporter: IN 20095,

SAMANTHA'S MOTHER ANN MARI

WALLACE WAS PREGNANT I

TREATMENT FOR DRUG ADDICTION AND

SUDDENLY HOMELESS.

SHE AND HER HUSBAND CARLOS

BOUNCED BETWEEN HOMELESS HEALT

ISSERS AND SHORPT-TERM HOUSING

FOR YEESHGS ALL TEMPORARY, KEP

FALLING BACK ON OLD HABITS AND

STUCK IN THE SYSTEM.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK OR

DO

MY HUSBAND KEPT SAY, IT'S GOIN

TO BE ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING GET THROUGH IT

>> Reporter: THEN A NEW YORK

CITY SHEMTER WORKER TOLD THE

FAMILY ABOUT A DIFFERENT OPTION.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH BUILT-IN

SUPPORT SERVICES CALLED SIMPLY

ENOUGH, SUPPORTIVE HOUSING

WALLACE APPLIED.

IN STEAD OF A TEMPORARY SHELTER,

A PLACE TO CALL HOME

IN THE BRONX

>> I FEEL EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR

A REASON

WE GOT OUT OF ONE PLACE BUT WENT

TO SOMEWHERE BETTER.

>> Reporter: HERE, CHRONICALLY

HOMELESS FAMILYS WITH A HISTOR

OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE LIV

ALONGSIDE LOW-INCOME FAMILIE

WHO QUALIFY FOR SUBSIDIZED

HOUSING.

>> WHAT WE MIGHT TAKE FO

GRANTED IS FOREIGN FOR THEM WHEN

THEY MOVE IN

GETTING CHILDREN OFF TO SCHOOL

FOLLOWING THAT ROUTINE

CLEANING THEIR APARTMENT

SOME FAMILIES ARE EXCITED TO

HAVE THEIR OWN SELVES.

>> Reporter: EMILY OVERSEE

THIS

ON-SITE COUNSELORS FOR DRU

ADDICTION, HEALTH CARE AND JOB

ASSISTANCE

GUIDANCE NEW TO MARIA TENANTS.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW YOU CAN GET FOR

GED IN COLLEGE

A WORKER HERE AND SHE TOLD M

ABOUT IT, AND TOOK ME ON TOURS

AND, STARTED THE PROCESS

>> Reporter: THERE'S A CATCH

SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS EXPENSIVE.

WHILE RESIDENTS PAY 30% OF THEIR

INCOME TOWARDS RENT, MANY RELY

ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE OR SOCIAL

SECURITY BENEFITS, AND THE

BUILDINGS THEMSELVES COS

MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO CONSTRUCT

OR RENOVATE.

ONE OF THE CITY'S LARTES

SUPPORTIVE HOUSING

ORGANIZATIONS, THE NONPROFIT

COMMON GROUND, TURNED THIS

FORMER WELFARE HOTEL INT

HOUSING FOR HOMELESS AND

LOW-INCOME RESIDENTS

THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SAY

LONG-TERM SAVINGS OUTWEIGH THE

COSTS.

>> A TYPICAL PERSON YOU WALK B

ON THE STREET IS COSTING THE

CITY AND THE STATE AND FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT ROUGHLY $56,000 A

YEAR

TO COME INTO A BUILDING LIKE

THIS AND HAVE AN APARTMENT WIT

A KEY, COSTS ROUGHLY $24,000 A

YEAR

>> Reporter: THE SOCIAL AN

MEDICAL SERVICES AVAILABLE HER

ARE ALSO PART OF THE ARGUMEN

FOR BUILDING MORE SUPPORTIVE

HOUSING.

>> THE PEOPLE THAT WE WORK WIT

ON THE STREETS THAT ARE DEALIN

WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AN

MEDICAL ISSUES AND SUBSTANCE

ABUSE ISSUES ARE THOSE FOLKS

THAT ARE USING PUBLIC RESOURCE

IN A VERY LARGE WAY.

SO THESE CRISIS SERVICES THE

USE, EMS, EMERGENCY ROOM

PSYCHIATRIC, HOSPITALS, JAILS,

THESE COST A LOT OF MONEY.

>> Reporter: BACK IN THE BRONX

ANN MARIE WALLACE IS CLEAN AND

SOBER AND ON HER WAY T

COMPLETING A BACHELOR DEGREE I

HEALTH SERVICES.

>> I WENT TO SCHOOL SO I CAN

DEPEND ON ME MIP KIDS CAN DEPEND

ON ME AND I FEEL MY KIDS TO HAVE

A BETTER LIFE, YOU KNOW, TO GO

TO SCHOOL AND GET THEI

EDUCATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

>> THE ULTIMATE GOAL I THINK FOR

US IS THAT WE BREAK THE CYCLE OF

HOMELESSNESS

THAT WE WORK SO CLOSELY WITH THE

FAMILIES AND THE CHILDRE

ESPECIALLY THAT WE SEE THE

CHILDREN GRADUATE FROM HIG

SCHOOL

WE SEE THE CHILDREN GOING ON T

COLLEGE.

>> Reporter: LIKE ANY LOW-INCOME

HOUSING, ONCE ACCEPTED

SUPPORTIVE HOUSING RESIDENTS CAN

STAY AS LONG AS THEY PAY THEIR

SHARE OF THE RENT.

BECAUSE MOST STAY PUT AND TH

DEMAND IS GROWING, IT'S NOW TO

THE CITY AND THE STATE TO DECIDE

WHAT TO INVEST TO MAKE ROOM FO

MORE FAMILIES LIKE ANN MARIE

WALLACE'S.

IN THE BRONX, FOR "METROFOCUS.

>>> AND JOINING ME NOW TO TALK

ABOUT THE DELAZI

ADMINISTRATION

SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AGENDA AN

OTHER KEY ELEMENTS IN'S MAYOR'

HOUSING SPLAN THE DEPUTY MAYOR

FOR HOUSING AND ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT, ALICIA GLEN

WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU

>> NOW WHAT IS THE MAYOR'S PLA

TO ENHANCE AND EXPAND SUPPORTIVE

HOUSING?

>> WELL, WE'VE ALWAYS SAID

SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS A VERY

VERY COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO

ACTUALLY PROVIDE MUCH BETTER

QUALITY OF LIFE FOR FOLKS WH

HAVE BEEN CYCLING IN AND OUT O

SHELTERS FOR A LONG PERIOD O

TIME, BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES

SAVE US MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE

DOLLARS IN VARIOUS WAYS.

WHETHER ACTUALLY THE SHELTER

COSTS ITSELF, MEDICAL VISITS

ALL OF THE VERY EXPENSIV

SERVICES THAT THE CITY PROVIDE

TO FAMILY WHOSE ARE VB

DESTABILIZED

WE KNOW THE LONG-TERM INVESTMENT

MAKES SENSE.

IT REQUIRES MANY MULTIPL

PIECES, AS THE REPORTE

SUGGESTED ON YOUR PIECE, THE

ACTUAL BUILDING OF THE BUILDING,

WHICH REQUIRE AS HUGE CAPITA

COMMITMENT BY THE CITY AND I

REQUIRES STATE AND FEDERAL

PARTICIPATION TO MAKE SURE THA

THOSE FAMILIES HAVE THE AS MUC

AS THEY NEED SO THAT THE MODEL

IS RELAYED SUCCESSFULLY AN

WONDERFUL EXAMPLES

BUT IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE ALL

LAYERS OF GOVERNMENT COMING TO

THE TABLE TO REALLY INCREASE THE

AMOUNT OF SUPPORTIVE HOUSING

FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE,

MAYOR DELAZIO HAS ALREAD

DOUBLED THE AMOUNT OF 2K345E79

OUR HOUSING BUDGET AND A LARGE

PORTION OF THAT WILL BE DEVOTE

TO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAV

HOUSING BUILT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE

LOW INCOME AND ALSO MUCH OF THAT

WILL HAVE SUPPORT OF HOUSING

COMPONENT TO T. AS WE SAW IN THE

PIECE, PEOPLE IN SUPPORTIV

HOUSING OF COURSE WANT TO STAY

INSUPPORTIVE HOUSING

DO YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR THOSE

BECOMING MORE INDEPENDENT OUT OF

SUPPORTIVE HOUSING INTO ANOTHE

FORM OF LOW-INCOME HOUSING

A. GOOD POINT.

WHAT'S GOING INTO THE PIPELINE

OF FOLKS WHO NEED THOSE SCHS

AND WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT TH

FAMILIES WHO BECOME ULTIMATELY

STABILIZED AND COULD LIVE IN

REGULAR AFFORDABLE HOUSING

SO I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO

ATTACK IT FROM BOTH ENDS

BOTH TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE

ENOUGH SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNIT

COMING ONLINE TO DEAL WITH THE

INCREASING NEED OF PARTICULARL

FOLKS LIVING IN THE SHELTERS AND

HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WE NEED T

ADDRESS, SIMULTANEOUSLY MAKING

SURE THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES FO

FAMILIES READY TO LEAV

SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SO WE DON'T

HAVE TO KEEP BUILDING MORE AND

MORE IS A POTTIVE HOUSING AN

APPROPRIATE PLACE FAMILIES READY

TO BE JUST IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING

GENERALLY SPEAKING

WE ARE LOOKING AT BOTH ENDS OF

THE EQUATION

>> SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS A SMALL

SUBSET OF THE LARGER NEEDS O

LARGER POPULATION, OF PEOPLE

CONSIDERED EXTREMELY LOW INCOME.

>> RIGHT

>> WHAT IS THE ADMINISTRATIO

GOING TO DO TO HELP MORE O

THOSE FAMILIES WHO MAKE LESS

THAN$S 25,000 A YEAR WHO D

VENT SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEMS?

>> OVER THE PAST DECADE, THE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RETRACTED

FROM BEING IN THE HOUSIN

BUSINESS, IN MANY RESPECTS

FOR VERY LOW INCOME FAMILIES

TRADITIONALLY THE CITY AND

REALLY AROUND THE COUNTRY HAVE

RELIED ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

PROVIDING SECTION 8 VOUCHERS FOR

VERY LOW INCOME FAMILY WHOSE

WILL PAY ONE-THIRD OF THEI

INCOME TOWARDS THEIR RENT AN

BEING ABLE TO LIVE NOT ONLY IN

AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS,

ALSO ABLE TO RENT A UNIT ON

OPEN MARKET.

AS THAT PROGRAM CONTINUESED TO

BE ROLLED BACK AND WE'VE BEE

UNABLE TO ISSUE NEW VOUCHERS

THAT'S HAD A SUBSTANTIAL IMPAC

ON OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE VERY

VERY LOW INCOME HOUSING FO

FOLKS.

THAT SAID, THE MAYOR'S BEEN VERY

CLEAR AS WE ARE ALLOCATING OUR

RESOURCES IN THE PLAN WE ARE

PREPARED TO AGAIN PUT ADDITIONAL

CITY-BASED SUBSIIES AND DOLLAR

TO MAKE SURE WE ARE INCREASING

THE NUMBER OF UNITS AVAILABL

FOR EXTREMELY LOW INCOME

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO MAKE BI

PROGRESS

THE MAYOR IS KMIPTED TO DOIN

FOUR TIMES AS MANY UNITS FOR

EXTREMELY LOW INCOME AS TH

PRIOR ADMINISTRATION BUT WITHOUT

A MORE COMPREHENSIVE APPROAC

THAT INCLUDES THE FEDERA

GOVERNMENT STEPPING BACK INT

THE GAME WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE

CHALLENGES BUT BEGIN TO MANT A

CONSENT IN THE PROBLEM

>> THE MAYOR COMMITTED T

BUILDING, OR PRESERVING 200,00

UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVER

THE NEXT DECADE.

VERY AIM BISHS PROJECT

MOST AMBITIOUS IN THE HISTORY OF

ANY CITY IN THE COUNTRY.

>> YES

>> BUT IS IT AMBITIOUS ENOUG

FOR A CITY THAT HAS A POPULATION

OF OVER 8 MILLION?

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER

THAT OF THOSE 200,000, ONLY, AND

I SAY ONLY, 80,000 NEW

CONSTRUCTIONS?

>> THE 200,000 UNITS, ROUGHL

500,000 PEOPLE

THE SIZE OF ATLANTA, IF YOU CA

BELIEVE IT

LOOK AT ACTUALLY WHAT TH

POPULATION OF ATLANTA IS

IS IT ENOUGH

PROBABLE NOT, BUT REMEMBER

THAT'S JUST THE PRODUCTION WE'RE

TARGETING SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS

THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING

AFFORDABLE HOUSING MEANS HOUSING

SUPPORTABLE TO CERTAIN INCOM

BANDS AND RESTRICTEDED TO THOS

INCOME BANDS

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'LL NO

PURSUE OTHER POLICY INITIATIVE

THAT INCREASE THE OVERAL

PRODUCTION OF HOUSING TO MEE

OUR INCREASING POPULATIO

GROWTH, WHICH IS A TERRIFI

PROBLEM IN MANY WAYS TO HAVE

THAT NEW YORK CITY CONTINUES T

GROW AND IS REALLY A PLACE WHERE

PEOPLE WANT TO COME, STAY AN

GROW BUSINESSES AND RAIS

FAMILIES

SO WE THINK 200,000 UNITS OF

AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE

FOR DECADES TO COME WILL BE

SIGNIFICANT DOWN PAYMENT ON ON

OF THE LARGER ISSUES WE'RE

FACING IN TERMS OF OVERALL

RESIDENTIAL PRODUCTION

>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY

PRESERVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING?

>> THERE ARE MANY, MANY PROJECTS

ACROSS THE BOROUGHS THAT HAV

HAD FORMS OF GOVERNMEN

ASSISTANCE OVER THE PAST THREE

FOUR DECADES

MANY PEOPLE MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH

THE AMOUNT OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT

THAT THE KOCH ADMINISTRATION PUT

INTO THE BRONX, FOR EXAMPLE.

MANY BUILDINGS ARE 20, 30 YEAR

OLD, FAMILIES LIVING IN TH

BUILDINGS AND THEY'RE BEGINNIN

TO GET A LITTLE HOT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE VER

PEOPLE WHO REBUILT THOSE

NEIGHBORHOODS GET TO STAY IN

THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE CAN

HELP THOSE BUILDINGS STA

HEALTHY AND STAY AS AFFORDABLE

HOUSING.

IT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE CRIME FOR

US TO LOSE A UNIT OF AFFORDABL

HOUSING THAT WE'VE ALREADY BUILT

OVER DECADES OF WORK

>> WHEN ARE NEW YORKERS GOING TO

BE ABLE TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE

ACTUALLY MADE A DENT IN WHAT YOU

CALL AND OTHERS CALL THE

AFFORDABILITY CRISIS IN HOUSIN

IN THE CITY?

>> WE'VE ALREADY STARTED 8,700

UNITS SINCE THE MAYOR HAS BEEN

IN OFFICE, AND MANY OF THESE ARE

GOING INTO THE GROUND AS W

SPEAK.

BUILDINGS RENOVATED ACROSS FIV

BOROUGHS

I THINK WE TALK ABOUT 200,00

UNITS.

THAT WILL TAKE A PERIOD OF TIM

TO RAMP UP, BECAUSE WE HAVE

LOT OF PROBLEMATIC OBJECTIVES WE

NEED TO GET BAKED INTO THE

PROGRAM.

SO I WOULD SAY IN THE NEXT, BY

THE END OF 2015, NEW YORKERS

SHOULD HAVE A PALPABLE SENSE

THERE'S MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSIN

PRODUCENED AND HOPEFULLY MOR

PRODUCED IN GENERAL.

>> DEPUTY MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR

JOINING US

>> THANK YOU

>>> IN MISSOURI, IN NEW YORK, IN

THE NATION, THE ISSUE AND TH

SUMMER IN 2014 IS RACE

AND THE BIG QUESTIONS ARE --

WAS THERE EVER ANY REAL CHANGE

IN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEE

WHITE AND BLACK AMERICANS?

AND WHAT DO WE DO NOW?

JOINING ME NOW TO TALK ABOUT

PERCEPTIONS, POLICIES AND TH

REALITIES, ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR

OF MEDIA, CULTURE AN

COMMUNICATION AT NYU STEINHART

WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU

>> BIG QUESTIONS IN A MOMENT

LET ME START WITH THIS -- WH

WAS THE EVENT IN FERGUSON,

MISSOURI, THE KILLING OF MICHAEL

BROWN, WHAT TRIGGERED THES

VIOLENT PROTESTS AND CAPTURE

THE NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT

>> I THINK IT'S REALLY A CASE OF

THAT PROVERBIAL STRAW BREAKING

THE CAMEL'S BACK

IN THE LAST FEW YEARS AND MORE

RECENTLY THE DEATHS OF BLACK MEN

BY THE HANDS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE

INJURED THEM, SOME OF THEM COPS,

I THINK REALLY BUILT IN SUCH A

WAY THAT MADE THE KILLING OF

MICHAEL BROWN A REAL FISSURE

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE WAY I

IN MICHAEL BROWN WAS KILLED.

YOU HAVE A POLICE OFFICER WHO'

WHITE.

MICHAEL BROWN WHO IS

AFRICAN-AMERICAN

HAVE YOU A TOWN IN FERGUSO

THAT'S MOSTLY BLACK.

A POLICE FORCE THAT'S MOSTLY

WHITE.

AND THEN THE BRUTALITY OF HI

KILLING.

SHOT SIX TIMES

THE AUTOPSY HAS SHAWN, SHOT IN

BROAD DAYLIGHT AND THE IMAGES OF

SEEING MICHAEL BROWN'S BODY FACE

DOWN ON THE DIRT IN FERGUSON I

THE HOUSING COMPLEX FOR ALL TO

SEE AND FOR SUCH A LONG TIME

I THINK IT WAS A VISION OF -

THAT ALL AMERICANS COULD REALL

LOOK TO AND SAY, WOW

SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT HERE.

>> YOUR EXPERTISE IS THE MEDIA

AND THE MESSAGE.

HAS THERE BEEN ANYTHING IN THE

COVERAGE OF THIS EVENT THAT YO

HAVE FOUND TROUBLING

>> NOT A LOT PARTICULARL

TROUBLING.

THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES, I THINK

WHEN THE MEDIA HAS STARTED T

REALLY COVER THE CASE, TWO O

THREE DAYS REALLY EN MASSE AFTER

THE KILLING OF MICHAEL BROWN

WHERE YOU STARTED TO SEE SOME OF

THE SHIFTING FOCUS OF THE MEDI

AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

IN PARTICULAR, QUESTIONS ABOUT

THE RIGHTS OF JOURNALISTS AND SO

FORTH.

SO FOR A MOMENT, WHE

JOURNALISTS REALLY STARTED T

FLOOD FERGUSON, REALLY STARTED

TO KOVLGER THE EVENT AND THE

POLICE WERE FIGHTING BACK AN

BARRING THEM FROM COVERING THE

WAY THAT THEY WANTED TO.

I THINK THE STORY SHIFTED.

>> IN A WRONG WAY?

>> IN A WAY THAT I THINK JUS

SIMPLY DETRACTED FOCUS AWAY FROM

THE REAL ISSUE OF THE CASE WHICH

WAS THE --

>> YES

NOW, MAYOR de BLASIO RECENTL

SAID THERE CANNOT BE REAL CHANGE

IF WE ARE DISTRACTED BY RECKLESS

VIOLENCE

HAS THE MEDIA COVERAGE OF THIS

EVENT BEEN COVERAGE OF RECKLES

VIOLENCE

ISN'T THAT PART OF THE JOB

>> IT IS PART OF THE JOB, AN

THEY HAVE COVERED THE VIOLENCE

THAT IS THERE, AND I THINK B

AND LARGE THEY HAVE COVERED WHAT

THEY HAVE BEEN SEEING.

THAT IS, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY

HAVE, AS SOME CRITICIZED, SORT

OF AGITATED.

SO THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT, I

THINK, THE SPECTACLE OF IT ALL

AND THE CAMERAS THAT ARE THERE

THAT I THINK AMPLIFIES SOME OF

THE VIOLENCE AND ACTIONS GOING

ON, BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW THAT

THEY ARE BEING WATCHED AND THA

THEY ARE BEING SEEN, BUT IT'S AN

ALTOGETHER DIFFERENT STORY T

UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT SEEMING

VIOLENCE IS ABOUT.

>> AND, CHARLIE, WHAT'S THE ROLE

OF SOCIAL MEDIA IN ALL THIS?

HAS IT BEEN POSITIVE LARGELY

HAS IT BEEN NEGATIVE

>> I THINK LARGELY POSITIVE, I

A DAY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SORT OF

SO-CALLED HASH TAG ACTIVISM OR

DIGITAL ACTIVISM AND WONDER HO

EFFECTIVE IT CAN BE, I THINK

THIS IS A CASE WHERE WE SEE, YOU

KNOW, EARLY ON RIGHT AFTER

MICHAEL BROWN'S DEATH, SOM

QUESTIONS, SOME ATTENTION BY

SORT OF MAINSTREAM O

TRADITIONAL MEDIA, THE LARGE

MEDIA OUTLETS AND SO FORTH, BU

REALLY SLOW TO COVER

SO THE ROLE OF SOCIAL MEDIA HERE

PARTICULARLY ON TWITTER, I

THINK, WAS FOR A GROUND SWELL OF

PEOPLE TO INTERACT, TO TALK, T

SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT

THEY'RE SEEING, WHAT THEY'RE

HEARING ON THE GROUND, AND I

THINK THAT REALLY BUILT INTO

SUCH A GROUND SWELL THAT OTHER

MEDIA OUTLETS THEN SAID, HEY

HERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED T

COVER.

>> LET ME CLOSE WITH TWO BIG

QUESTIONS I STARTED WITH

WHAT IS THE KILLING AND TH

VIOLENCE IN ALL OF IT, TELL US

ABOUT HOW FAR WE'VE ACTUALLY

PROGRESSED IN THE AREA OF RACE

RELATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY?

>> I THINK WE'VE COME A LONG

WAY.

I THINK ANYONE WOULD B

DISINGENUOUS TO SAY THAT THING

TODAY ARE NOT DIFFERENT THAN

THEY WERE 40 YEARS AGO, 50 YEARS

AGO.

WE HAVE AN AFRICAN-AMERICA

PRESIDENT.

AN ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO'

AFRICAN-AMERICAN

PROMINENT LEADERS AND SO FORTH

THAT ARE THERE, BUT I THINK WHAT

MICHAEL BROWN SHOWS IS THAT TH

ISSUE OF RACE AND THE ISSU

PARTICULARLY OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE

AS IT RELATES TO PEOPLE OF

COLOR, PARTICULARL

AFRICAN-AMERICAN, LATINO MEN, IS

REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE HAV

NOT DEALT WITH, AND SO WHE

PEOPLE LOOK AND SAY, THI

HAPPENED AND IT HAPPENS TODAY.

IT HAPPENS TOMORROW, IT HAPPENED

YESTERDAY, IT CONTINUES TO

HAPPEN IN THE SAME WAY, SOME

THINGS STILL HAVE NOT BEEN DONE.

>> WHAT DO WE DO NEXT?

>> I THINK WE ACT.

I THINK OBAMA, I THINK ATTORNE

GENERAL HOLDER ARE DOING THE

RIGHT THING SAYING, THIS I

SOMETHING WE NEED TO ATTAC

SYSTEMICALLY

WE NEED TO LOOK AT NOT ONL

WHAT'S HAPPENING IN FERGUSON BUT

WHAT'S HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON

WITH OUR LAWS, WITH OUR POLICY

WITH THE WAY THAT WE POLICE OU

STREETS AND COMMUNITIES ACROSS

THE NATION

AND SO I THINK THAT KIND O

ACTION, THAT KIND OF CHANG

SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE IS WHERE WE

NEED TO BE MOVING.

>> ALL RIGHT, CHARLIE.

THANK YOU SIEGE.

>> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME

THANK YOU.

>>> IN AN AGE OF CITIES, THERE

IS ONE VILLAGE THAT IS KNOWN B

PEOPLE OF THE WORLD OVER

GREENWICH VILLAGE.

THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF GRADE

CARTER, EDITOR OF "VANITY FAIR

ONE OF 66 ARTISTS, WRITERS

ACTORS AND OTHER NOTABLE NEW

YORKERS WHO REMINISCE ABOU

THEIR TIME IN THE VILLAGE IN THE

NEW BOOK "GREENWICH VILLAG

STORIES: A COLLECTION OF

MEMORIES."

JOINING ME TO TALK ABOUT THE

BOOK INCLUDING DOZENS OF

FANTASTIC PHOTOGRAPHS IS ANDRE

BERMAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR O

THE GREENWICH VILLAGE SOCIET

FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

ANDREW, WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU

>> A WONDERFUL BOOK.

HOW DID IT COME TO BE?

>> REALLY THE BRAINCHILD OF OU

TRUSTEE JUDITH STONE HILL AN

AUTHOR IN HER OWN RIGHT A PAST

PRESIDENT OF GBSP, PUT TOGETHE

MANY BOOKS ABOUT GREENWICH

XRILAGE IN NEW YORK AND FELT A

GAP WHICH WAS THES

REMINISCENCES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE

LIVED HERE, WHO HAVE MADE THEI

LIVES HERE, WHO HAVE COME INTO

THEIR OWN AS ARTISTS AND WRITERS

IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE AL

FELT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT T

GET THIS DOWN ON PAPER, BECAUS

WE REALIZED THAT HISTORY AND

MEMORIES CAN BE REALLY

EPHEMERAL.

IF YOU DON'T CAPTURE THEM,

THEY'RE LOST

THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

KEEP THE MEMORIES AND THAT

HISTORY ALIVE.

>> YOU HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH

THIS PHOTOGRAPH, OF McDOOGLE

STREET

I LOVE, VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT.

SPENT A LOT OF TIME THERE, AND

THE CAFE IS STILL THERE?

>> YES, IT IS.

AND THE TAVERN IS BACK AS WELL

AND WHAT'S WONDERFUL IS, YOU

KNOW, SO MUCH ABOUT TH

NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CHANGED BUT A

LOT HAS STAYED THE SAME.

THIS CORNER LOOKS PRETTY SIMILAR

TO THE WAY IT DOES TODAY, PARTLY

BECAUSE OF THE LANDMAR

PROTECTIONS WE'VE ALL FOUGHT

VERY HARD FOR.

AND THERE'S A SPIRIT THAT

THINK IS STILL THERE, EVEN AS WE

HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOW MUCH HAS

CHANGED ABOUT THES

NEIGHBORHOODS AS SO MUCH HAS

CHANGED ABOUT NEW YORK IN THIS

TIME

>> YEAH.

YOU TALK ABOUT THE SPIRIT OF

FREEDOM.

IN THE VILLAGE

ONE OF THE STORIES IN THE BOOK

IS FROM JOHN LEG LEGUASAMO

>> SURE.

I LOVE JOHN'S STORY FOR SO MAN

REASONS INCLUDING THE FACT THA

HE'S AN ATORBORO KID LIKE ME

THOSE GROWING UP IN NEW YORK

CITY, THE VILLAGE WAS A PLAC

YOU DISCOVERED AS YOU GOT OLDER,

REALIZED OPPORTUNITIES AND

POSSIBILITIES THAT MAYBE YOU

DIDN'T HAVE IN THE PLACE WHERE

YOU GREW UP, AND FOR HIM AS AN

ARTIST STARTED OUT KIND OF I

THE STANDARD COMEDIAN STAND-UP

FORAT.

HE DISCOVERED SOMETHING MORE

OPEN-ENDED, PERSONAL EXPRESSIO

WAS RIGHT FOR HIM.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF FRIEND

WHO LIVE IN FLORIDA WHO SCHEDULE

THEIR VACATION OFTEN

SO THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE

GREENWICH VILLAGE PARADE

HALLOWEEN PARADE

>> YES

>> AMAZING

>> YES

>> AND A STORY ABOUT IT HERE

FROM RALPH LEE WHO ORIGINATE

THE PARADE AND ACCOMPANIED B

THIS INCREDIBLE DRAWING OF SAL

STEINBERG THAT CAPTURES FOR ME

PERFECTLY THE SPIRIT OF TH

HALLOWEEN PARADE

>> THE IRONY, IT'S NOT OF TH

HALLOWEEN PARADE

THIS DRAWING WAS DONE A FE

YEARS BEFORE THE PARADE STARTE

BUT WHERE THE PARADE ORIGINALL

RAN.

AND IT'S JUST A VILLAGE STREET

SCENE AND 1971, AND TH

CHARACTERS AND THE ACTIVITY AR

SIMILAR TO WHAT PEOPLE ASSOCIATE

WITH THE PARADE, BUT IT WA

REALLY AN EVERY DAY FACT OF LIFE

IN THE VIMMAGE AT THAT TIME.

>> A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE HIGHLINE.

WHEN WAS THAT TAKEN?

>> A GREAT PICTURE TAKEN IN TH

1930s NOT LONG AFTER THE HIG

LINE WAS BUILT AND MANY DON'

REALIZE THE HIGH LINE USED T

RUN THROUGH BUILDINGS LIKE WES

BETH BACK WHEN THE OLD BEL

TELEPHONE LABS

THAT'S THE PIECE

HIGH LAND WE LOST.

TORN DOWN IN THE LATE 1980s.

USED TO GO DOWN TO SPRIN

STREET

THE FORTUNATELY FROM GANFORT

NORTH PRESERVED AND REDAPTIVEL

USES, A GREAT THEME IN THE

NEIGHBORHOOD TAKING THINGS MEANT

FOR ONE PURPOSE AND USING THEM

FOR A WONDERFUL NEW PURPOSE.

THE PICTURE IS STRIKING TO THINK

THAT ONE DAY IN THE NOT TO

DISTANT PAST THERE WERE TRAINS

RUNNING THROUGH THAT BUILDING.

>> RIGHT THROUGH THE BUILDING.

IT WAS BEAUTIFUL

WHY WE NEED PRESERVATION

SOCIETY.

RIGHT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> JOHN HAS A BEAUTIFUL PIEC

WHERE HE TALKS ABOUT HOW H

MISSES THE BLEAKER STREE

CINEMA, AND YOU HAVE A REALL

MOODY PHOTOGRAPH OF THE BLEAKE

STREET CINEMA, WHICH REFLECT

THE KIND OF MOVIES THEY USED T

SHOW

I USED TO WATCH DOCUMENTARIE

THERE.

THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE TH

BLEAKER STREET CINEMA ANYMORE.

WHEN DID IT END?

>> BLEAKER STREET CINEMA SADLY

CLOSED IN 1991 AFTER A LONG RUN.

A BELOVED INSTITUTION.

I ALSO SAW GREAT MOVIES THERE.

TODAY YOU CAN SEE THINGS O

NETFLIX, OR AT HOME.

AND A LOT OF MOVIES AR

ACCESSIBLE, BUT THERE'

SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT SHARING

SOMETHING IN THE SPACE AND

KNOWING THIS WAS ONE OF THE FE

PLACES YOU COULD SEE IT.

AND REALLY BLEAKER STREET WAS AN

EXTRAORDINARY RESOURCE IN THAT

RESPECT.

>> ONE OF YOUR CONTRIBUTORS IS

SHAWN WALENS, AMERICAN HISTORY

WRITTEN A LOT OF HISTORY BOOKS

AND BIOGRAPHY OF BOB DYLAN

HIS FATHER AND UNCLE STARTED THE

A STREET BOOK SHOP, THE FAMOUS

BOOK SHOP, HAPPENS TO BE THE

FIRST STORE I EVER WENT INTO I

NEW YORK CITY.

A WONDERFUL PHOTOGRAPH OF TH

FIRST A STREET BOOK STORE.

>> UH-HUH, YES

>> THAT CLOSED BEFORE BOOK

STORES STARTED TO CLOSE?

>> YEAH.

YOU KNOW, IT'S AN INCREDIBLE

STORY THAT HE TELL, ONLY

SOMEBODY A WHO GREW UP WITH THAT

BOOK STORE COULD REALL

EXPERIENCE

BUT THE HISTORY BOOK SHOP WA

MORE THAN A BOOK STORE

REALLY A HOME BASE FOR AN ENTIRE

GENERATION OF WRITERS AN

CREATIVE PEOPLE.

LITERALLY, THEY WOULD PICK U

THEIR MAIL, GET SUPPLIES AND

THINGS LIKE THAT

IT WAS A CULTURAL CENTER EVE

MORE THAN A BOOK SHOP, AND THE

STORY HE TELLS ABOUT ALA

GINSBURG AND HOW AFTER THOSE

TERRIBLE FIRE, TRIED TO BRING IT

BACK IS REALLY INCREDIBLE AN

I'VE HEARD FROM SO MANY PEOPLE

THAT THE MEMORIES THAT ARE PUT

DOWN ON PAPER IN THIS BOOK

REALLY TOUCHED THEM, BECAUSE

PEOPLE HAVE STRONG CONNECTIONS

TO THEM.

>> YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE

PROBABLY STILL HAS MORE BOOK

STORES THAN ANY PLACE ON EARTH

BUT SO FEW COMPARED TO WHAT WE

USED TO, BUT THIS IS JUST AN

INCREDIBLE RECORD OF WHAT LIFE

USED TO BE LIKE AND HO

IMPORTANT LITERATURE AND THE

WRITTEN WORD WAS TO PEOPLE

ESPECIALLY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> FINALLY, ANDREW, THE COVER OF

YOUR BOOK, IT'S THE CORNER O

McDOUGAL AND BLEAKER

>> YES

>> THE LEGENDARY FIGURE OF CAFE.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A MYSTERY

ATTACHED TO THAT PICTURE

WHO IS THAT YOUNG MAN?

HAVE YOU SOLVED THE MYSTERY?

>> WE HAVE NOT BUT ASK VIEWERS

IF ANYBODY HAS HINTS OR CLUES.

THIS IS A PICTURE TAKEN BY THE

GREAT PHOTOGRAPHER ROBERT OTTE

IN 1965.

THE CORNER OF BLEAKER AN

McDOUGAL

A YOUNG MAN STANDING THERE

THUMBING THROUGH SOME SORT O

BOOK

IT'S PERFECTLY CAPTURING THE

SPIRIT OF THE TIME

BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHO THIS MAN

IS

AND IF ANYBODY OUT THERE DOE

KNOW, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR, BUT

EITHER WAY, IT PERFECTLY

CAPTURES WHAT THIS BOOK AND WHAT

THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ABOUT.

ALL RIGHT, A PLEASURE.

>> THANK YOU

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH

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