Counter Culture


Counter Culture Season 2 Ep. 19

Pierre Robert, long-time mid-morning host on 93.3 WMMR in Philadelphia; Pat Ciarrocchi, Award-Winning Philadelphia Broadcaster who served at CBS3 for 33 years before retiring in 2015; Kathy O’Connell, Host of the longest running and most successful national kids call-in radio show in history, “Kids Corner” on WXPN in Philadelphia

AIRED: January 14, 2020 | 0:28:00


-Welcome to "Counter Culture," a talk show in a diner.

Tonight, we feature three of our favorite interviews,

which include 93.3 WMMR midmorning man Pierre Robert...

-Mick Jagger, I think, the greatest front man of all time,

he's sitting even closer than you are to me,

and I'm going, "Don't mess up. Don't mess up. Don't mess up."

-...award-winning Philly TV news anchor Pat Ciarrocchi...

-I was able to lead our coverage

when Pope Francis came to Philadelphia. -Yes.

...and the award-winning host of "Kids Corner" on WXPN,

Kathy O'Connell.

-There is a point where it's not cool to listen to the show.

-Uh-huh. -But I'll wait.

I sit, and I wait,

and then they come back to me in college and early 20s...

-Right. -...and then I get their kids.

-All right here on "Counter Culture."


Welcome to "Counter Culture," a talk show in a diner.

I'm your host, Grover Silcox, coming to you from PBS39

in beautiful Southside Bethlehem.

And now my interview with one of Philadelphia's

most recognized media personalities.

[ Rock music plays ]

My first guest has a personality

that is so soothing, calm, and easygoing,

he makes Mr. Rogers look over-caffeinated.

[ Both laugh ]

He has been known to mellow out Jack Russell terriers.

He actually stops traffic to let squirrels cross the street.

That's the kind of guy we're talking about here.

Now, I might be exaggerating, but I'm not exaggerating

when I say that his beautiful, rich, baritone voice

and reassuring manner is as much a part of Philadelphia

as the last 38 years,

when he first took the mic at 93.3 WMMR in Philadelphia --

Mr. Pierre Robert.

Pierre, welcome! -Good day, Grover.

-Yes! -Great to see you.

-Old friend. -Old friend, indeed.

-And now guest, too. -And now guest.

-At the counter. -I know you've made it

because you've got your picture on a mug.

-It's a mug on a mug. Yes. -That's so cool.

-It's somewhere around here. -On PBS39.

And it's got the name of the show on it, too.

And it's not like one of those ones with --

you can peel off and go the next show.

-Exactly. It's there to stay. -You know, "The Jack and Judy Show."

It's your mug. It's engraved. -It sure is.

Well, you have been a fixture on Philadelphia's radio scene

for, as we see, 38 years.

And congratulations, because I know you just got a new contract.

-I did. -How many more years?

-Seventeen more years. -[ Laughing ] That's right.

Actually, millennials will be getting Social Security

when your contract is up.

Am I right? -No, it's so funny.

I'll reference events from, you know, like,

Live Aid in 1985,

thinking that everybody is aware of it

and then not realizing we have such a wide span of audience

that some people that are listening

weren't even born then.

So I am 38 years at one station. -Wow.

-I signed up for two more years.

My little claim to fame, such as it is,

is that I am at one station, MMR, all that time,

and MMR just celebrated its 50th anniversary.

-That's right. -And so, in our line of work -- media,

particularly radio, which is very fickle --

the idea that one station can last for 50 years

and that one deejay can last for 38 of those 50 years

on that very station is rather astounding.

-But it didn't start in Philadelphia.

It started, as your fans know, in San Francisco.

-That is correct. -Tell us about that.

-Well, I'm a native Californian,

and I felt a call from an alien craft.

-Yes. -"Go East."

Everyone goes West. -Yes, right.

-I'm the only one.

-So you came to -- you came to Philadelphia.

Tell us why that happened.

-Well, I -- My rock 'n' roll radio station in San Francisco

turned country-and-Western,

and it was -- I have nothing --

I love country music and Western music,

but it was a shock to the system.

And I had friends coming out here

who said, "Well, why not come here?"

And I go, "Well, why not?"

And so, I threw everything I had,

including an asparagus fern, which is alive to this day.

-Get out! -I'm not kidding.

The other one died, but one of them lived. -Yeah, right.

Yeah, I think this was also renewed for two years, wasn't it?

-[ Laughs ] I threw it into my Volkswagen van Minerva,

and with 500 bucks and bald tires,

I made the trek across the country.

Picked up a hitchhiker in Iowa named Bob.

He helped me drive for a while.

And he also liked The Dead, which was helpful.

-Wow. The Grateful Dead, of course.

-The Grateful Dead, yes.

And we came into Philadelphia, and I assumed,

having worked at a legendary station, KSAN, in San Francisco,

I'd be swooped up. -Yeah!

-Well, that wasn't the case. -No.

-I sent my tape to all the stations,

and the only one that called me back said,

"You know, you sound too mellow."

I go, "What do you mean?" He goes, "Well, you sound like you're from California."

I go, "I am from California."

And, eventually -- MMR is where I wanted to be,

but I worked at a health-food store on South Street

loading 50-pound sacks of brown rice

and going into real poverty.

And then, one day, I'm walking down South Street,

and there was a fortune teller, a palm reader.

And I said -- And I had 5 bucks left.

-[ Laughs ] Right. -And I walked in.

And I go, "How much is it?" She goes, "5 bucks. $5."

And I go, "Okay. I gave her my last $5.

She said, "Give me your hand." I gave her my hand.

She goes, "Hmm, you're going to get a letter.

You're going to get a letter in the next two weeks.

Follow what the letter says. Good luck."

And the next day, I ride my bicycle

back to the health-food store on South Street,

and I get a call from a friend of mine

who says, "You just got a letter from WMMR."

I swear to God this is true. -That is unbelievable.

-And it was -- I had applied there,

and they knew of me, but there was no openings,

and I started within a week.

-Wow. -Yeah.

In the music library at first,

but then they needed someone on the weekends on the air,

and then after I still almost went into total poverty,

the overnight shift became available,

and I got that, and then I did that for a few years,

and then the midday shift for a brief amount of time,

from '93 to '96,

the morning show of which you were a part...

-Yes, and proudly so. -...and then --

Well, you were delightful.

You also worked with the Morning Zoo.

I mean, you're great on TV,

but on the radio, you're amazing. -Oh.

Now, what music did you grow up with?

What influenced you? -Well, my parents loved

Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Dean Martin,

you know, the cocktail singers, if you will.

-Yes. -So I loved that music,

never lost a love of that music.

But then The Beatles came out, and I go,

"It doesn't have to be that way."

And then I campaigned for the next 15 years,

and it wasn't until I finally left the house

that I was able to expand. -Spread your wings.

-Between my father and the nuns,

they kept my hair short, but, you know,

that was the beginning of my love of music --

Beatles, Rolling Stones --

and then on into the various genres of rock 'n' roll,

as it has continued to develop.

-Right. And when did you fall in love with the Grateful Dead?

-1974 I went to my first Dead show at a place --

-What was that like?

-Well, I didn't even know of them, really.

My friend took me. He goes, "You must see this."

-Yeah. -And we went to Winterland,

a legendary old ice skating rink in San Francisco

that the concert promoter Bill Graham

had turned into a concert hall, and we went in there,

and people are just, like, doing this thing.

I go, "Well, this is"... -What do they call that, twirling?

-I call it twirling. I don't know what you'd really call it.

But, you know, it's some cosmic consciousness.

It's aerobics. It's cardio for Dead Heads.

Just like...

And I just go, "Well, something's happening here."

And that was my introduction, and I've loved them ever since.

-Wow. And did you ever get to meet them and Jerry Garcia?

-I interviewed Jerry Garcia.

-That must have been the greatest feeling.

-Well, yeah, it's just like, you're across from that guy,

and it's a little overwhelming, so you have to keep your place.

"Where do I want to go with this conversation,"

and, "Oh, my God, it's him."

Same thing with Mick Jagger and Keith Richards.

-Wow. -You know, the Rolling Stones

walk in the room, and you go, "Oh, my God," you know?

Mick Jagger, I think, the greatest front man of all time,

and he's sitting even closer than you are to me,

and I'm going, "Don't mess up. Don't mess up. Don't mess up.

How are you, Mick?" you know? -Yeah.

Now, I know when I served as a crack reporter

on another station, I interviewed you.

You were always kind enough to welcome me into the studio.

-Really? -I didn't hear the end result

of this experience

until about a year or two later.

-So Grover is on TV,

and he's doing a series on morning shows,

and you were live on TV. -That's right.

-And we had everything all ready,

and my hair is brushed as good as it's going to get,

and we're all ready.

We worked out the plan.

As soon as you open the door, you're live on TV,

on live morning TV in Philadelphia.


-So, the knock comes on the door,

Grover comes in,

and I've got the cup of coffee in a Styrofoam cup,

and I said, "Oh, it'll be a nice greeting

if I have a cup of coffee" -- morning, coffee, et cetera --

except I'm such a klutz.

I reach for the coffee, and I knocked it over --

no plastic lid on it --

and the entire contents spilled into the control board

that runs the entire station.

-Oh! And you didn't want to say anything because we were live.

-What do I do?

It's live on TV, and my choice is, "Excuse me,

I've got to clean this up and call for towels."

Do I do that and ruin your shot,

or do I try to save my radio station,

which is about to go down in flames?

And the choice was mind-boggling.

And in that microsecond, I said, "I'm going for TV.

Grover, how are you? Good to see you!

Come on in," et cetera, et cetera.

"Well, this is where we do this."

And in the background, I'm hearing the tape,

and it's going [imitates crackling]

And then I finish the shot with you

as if nothing had happened and then run for paper towels,

but the damage had been done.

We're off the air, and we had to move into another studio

for two or three days. -Ugh!

-And the entire air staff hated me.

-Wow. -Now I keep my coffee

always away from the control panel.

-Right. And that was about 20-something years ago,

so you're still here. -I am.

-And you have a new contract, so everything is good. -I do.

-Whatever you've done, keep doing it. -Thank you.

-Just keep the coffee away from the console.

Well, I'm going to tell you, I love the fact

that you have come to the counter,

my old friend Pierre Robert,

and I hope you have another great 38 years on 93.3 WMMR...

-Thank you, Grover. Philadelphia.

-That's awesome. I love this diner,

I love this show, and you're amazing.

Great to see you. -Well, I'm one of thousands who love you, so...

-Aw, thank you. -There you go -- Pierre Robert,

38 years at WMMR in Philadelphia.

God bless the Grateful Dead.

Truly one of the nicest guys in radio.

And since that interview, Pierre was inducted

into Philly's prestigious Music Walk of Fame.

And now, from radio to television,

let's look back on this conversation

with one of Philadelphia's news legends, Pat Ciarrocchi.

Now, what do Robert Redford, Madeleine Albright,

Laura Bush, and Cardinal Foley all have in common?

Well, they were all interviewed by my first guest.

She has garnered multiple Emmy awards and other accolades

as anchor and reporter for CBS3 in Philadelphia

for 33 years.

She became one of Philadelphia's most beloved

and respected television news personalities,

who also became the first female inductee

to the Pennsylvania Broadcasters Hall of Fame.

And although she retired in 2015,

she continues to serve the community she loves.

And it is a pleasure to welcome Pat Ciarrocchi to the counter!

-Oh, I can't believe it!

It's just so wonderful to be with you.

And I have to tell you what the real connection is,

outside of the interviews.

-Of all those people? -With all of those people.

Each one of them has signed a baseball to my husband.

-Get out! -My husband has a collection of baseballs,

but not signed by baseball players...

-My! Really? -...signed by different celebrities.

It started with Robert Redford,

and it was because he was in "The Natural."

Yeah, he signed the ball... -Well, perfect.

-..."Robert Redford, AKA Roy Hobbs."

I was almost in tears because I didn't realize

that he was actually going to do that

until I offered him the opportunity to sign the ball.

But he knew exactly what to do.

And just like my heart is beating so hard

because I'm with you right now...

-Oh, really?

A lot of people confuse me with Robert Redford. was the same thing.

-Now, after 33 years -- and we mentioned just a handful

of the people that you interviewed --

who were the few at the top that you --

like, "This is unbelievable." -Amazing.

Well, when I sat across from Madeleine Albright,

and she was explaining about having been

the Secretary of State and she got out of,

I guess it would have been Air Force II,

and she turned around, and she was in some foreign country.

-Right. -And she looked over

her shoulder, and she saw the name

"The United States of America" on the plane.

-Wow. -And she said,

"I knew why I needed to be here,

because I represented the United States of America."

And all you want to do is just sit there and listen.

-Yes. -She really was lovely.

-It is really the greatest school in the world, isn't it,

the kinds of things that you've done...

-Oh, absolutely.

-...and that I get a chance to do sometimes?

-Yeah, because you find yourself

right on the front lines of everything,

right in the front row.

And I've been phenomenally grateful for that

through my whole professional career.

You know, 33 1/2 years

in a major market station in my hometown.

-In the one station! -Yes.

-That is amazing. -I've been very grateful.

-And your hometown! -Yes. I've been very grateful.

And I grew up in Chester County. -Mm-hmm.

-So, my family is in the mushroom business.

-Yes, I know!

-And so all of that really has played a role in me

having an understanding of the community.

This public life that I have had

just couldn't be about two-alarm fires.

-Mm-hmm. -It needed to be about using

the media, using the message

in order to be able to help individuals

see their life in a different way

or have a better understanding of their lives.

-Right. -I had learned how to write

for broadcast by doing radio.

I learned how to deliver for broadcast by doing radio.

And then the TV part was, you know,

putting your hair in order and, you know, wearing mascara.

-People might be interested to know the difference

between being a street reporter and being an anchor.

-Bottom line with both --

You have to understand the story,

and you have to believe in what it is that you're presenting

and understand that it's to help the people at home

have a better understanding of their life.

So, when you're a street reporter, it's different

because you're gathering facts. -Right.

-And you also are under a different kind of time pressure.

And so when you're doing a story that, let's say,

has to appear at 6:00 in the evening,

you have to back-time yourself.

You have to make sure, when the anchor

of that particular newscast says, "Pat?"

that you are able to begin your story

and your introduction and then go to the package

that you've been developing through the afternoon.

You know, and you know, I mean,

there's time constraints within time constraints

within time constraints. -Absolutely.

Did you always keep in mind

that there's that person sitting in their living room?

-I always have had a great respect

for that person who tuned us in.

You know, I would always feel like it was a vote, you know.

-Yes! -Like, when they would turn...

-Like a constituent. -Exactly, right.

And so, I always felt very serious about that.

There's some people who would say, "Well, you know, think about it

as, you know, your mother is sitting there

watching you and/or your grandmother."

Well, I was so blessed, Grover.

I had my grandmothers watching me on the air.

-Wow. That's wonderful. -In fact,

they prayed me into the job. -Oh, they did?

-Yeah. When I was in Western Maryland in Hagerstown.

I was there for 3 1/2 years.

And I just, more than anything,

wanted to be able to get to Philadelphia.

I mean, more than anything. -Right, right, right.

-And so I'd come home from Hagerstown,

and I would have lunch with them.

And they would go, in their Italian accents,

"Oh, Patty, we pray you get to a bigger market."

[ Laughs ] And I did!

-Well, you know, my grandparents did the same thing,

but, you know, I said, "I'm not Pat.

My name isn't Patty."

No, I'm just kidding. -[ Laughs ]

-But, yeah, that's great that you had that support.

What would be the most challenging interview

that you could think back on? -Most challenging interview?

Well, probably wasn't just an individual interview.

It really was, like, circumstance

of covering stories. -Right.

-I always would -- If it was a big interview --

it was a big politician, with Madeleine Albright --

when you cover big events, like when Pope Francis

came to Philadelphia in 2015... -Yes, huge!

-So, I was able to lead our coverage.

I did 16 hours of live coverage.

The preparation for that was profound.

You know, you really had to study up.

You needed to know everything.

And I knew a lot because I had

covered the Vatican and the Catholic Church,

both the most challenging and tragic sides of it...

-Right. well as the more inspirational sides.

I was at the Vatican six different times

for the TV station, and that was really great.

And got that phone call in the early morning that said,

"Pat, you're not going to believe this,

but Pope Benedict resigned."

I said, "Pope Benedict? Popes don't resign! They die!"

-They don't resign, I know. Yes! -They die!

And so, I was there when his helicopter

was lifting off into the sunset. -That's incredible. Wow.

-I mean, those are moments

that this is going in the history books.

This is part of history. -It is.

And I was there. I was standing

in St. Peter's Square when John Paul II died.

-Right. Right. -Among millions of people.

There were 3 million people there, lined up,

from the steps of the Vatican, all the way to the Tiber River.

-You know, in your stories

about everyday people, like the --

Was it a woman who had the heart transplant?

-Yes, and I came up with an idea that I thought

it would be interesting to follow a transplant story.

-Right. -And so, through

St. Christopher's Hospital for Children...

-Mm-hmm. In Philadelphia? Philadelphia, I was able to find a young woman

named Tonya Love.

And she had been in the hospital three or four months,

waiting for a heart to be available to her.

Her heart was very diseased.

And she was a beautiful young girl,

maybe 17 years old -- 16, 17 years old.

-Mm-hmm. -They set everything up,

and I went in and had the opportunity to interview her.

A few days later, I get word that there's a heart available.

I actually go into the operating room...

-Right. Mm-hmm. -...scrubbed up and the whole thing.

And so, I saw the doctor take the one heart out of this cooler

and take her diseased heart, put it on a tray,

and then transplanted the other one.

It was really powerful.

-And she came out of it? -Well, she came out of it

only for a short period of time, Grover, yeah.

She passed within a few months.

-How about that? -Yeah, it was really tragic.

-What an amazing story. -Yeah.

-I mean, you've covered popes,

and you've covered everyday people.

And those stories are equally powerful.

Well, Pat, I want to thank you.

It has been an honor to have you at the counter.

-I'll be at your counter any time, Grover.

-[ Laughs ] You've got it!

Pat Ciarrocchi, one of Philadelphia's most respected

and beloved broadcasters...

and a terrific person.

You know, the really amazing thing about Pat Ciarrocchi

is that she is as genuine and as kind

as she is successful.

And finally, I have the queen of "Kids Corner" in my corner --

at the counter.

My next guest's name is synonymous

with one of America's most successful,

enduring, and endearing award-winning children's shows,

"Kids Corner," broadcast for more than 30 years

from 88.5 WXPN in Philadelphia.

It is a pleasure to welcome

the delightful Kathy O'Connell to the counter.

Kathy! -Grover! That's an awful lot to live up to.

-Right. Yeah. Calling in from this side of the counter,

calling in from -- like the kids do on your show.

-What school are you from, Grover? Hi!

-Just graduated!

-There. -Yeah!

-Oh, then you're too old. Sorry, I owe you --

-I'm too old, right. Yeah.

You're what? 5 to 13 or something?

-Nobody graduates from "Kids Corner."

Oh, I get them.

There is a point where it's not cool to listen to the show,

but I'll wait.

I sit, and I wait, and then they come back to me in college

and early 20s, and then I get their kids.

-Yeah. Well, like a lot of the great kids' stories

and kids' movies,

parents love them, too. Adults love them.

-It has to work for the whole family.

It really has to work for the whole family

because most adults are a captive audience,

especially with a radio show.

You're stuck in the car. You have to listen to me.

It better be good, and it better entertain everybody in the car.

-Just so folks, if they're not familiar with

"Kids Corner," kids call in.

They interact. It's a very interactive show.

-It is very interactive, and now I've got

multiple generations who have been calling in.

Last night, well, the other night,

we talked about your summer vacation

and tell me, you know, about your summer vacation.

We have scientists on.

We have -- I never looked at the sky

in all the years I've been alive

until astronomer Derrick Pitts

on "Kids Corner" has me tracking Mars,

has me caring about International Space Station

flying overhead. It's amazing!

I have the greatest job in the world.

I truly do -- Monday through Thursday, 7:00 P.M.

-Yes! Do kids constantly surprise you

with the things they say?

-Things they say but also how truly protective

they are of the show.

I had a fill-in host once long, long ago.

Paul F. Tompkins filled in for me for a week --

-Oh, boy! That's right!

Philly comic, where he started, anyway.

-Indeed! And he will claim to this day

it was one of the worst jobs he ever had

because the kids would tell him,

"Oh, you're not supposed to introduce a song that way."

They would say it live on the air!


-And one of the beauties of "Kids Corner" is,

it's a place for them to speak their minds.

-Right. -And I love that.

And also, it's not confrontational

talk radio, you know?

-It's calming. -Yes!

-And yet, it's very exciting, too.

You don't shy away from serious subjects, too.

People -- Kids have things on their minds.

Sometimes they might even tell their parents.

-It's a terrifying time.

It's always a terrifying time to be a kid.


-No, it was when we were kids, as well.

And it --

There may be different players, but it's always scary,

and the one thing that I regret,

that I wish I had done when I was a kid,

was ask more questions

and talk when I was scared about something.

-Right. -God bless my grandmother,

but we had a TV in our bedroom,

and every night, she watched the news.

-Uh-huh. -So I never went to sleep

before 11:30 my entire childhood.

-Right. -I thought there were gorillas

fighting in Southeast Asia --

-Oh, really? Yeah, actual gorillas, right.

-...and I was terrified, and I never asked about it.

I always say, "Talk to an adult you trust.

And if one doesn't, find one who will."

-Right, right. -And that's the important part.

-And some of the musical acts that you find,

the kids performers,

some of the greatest in this -- -Oh!

-And some whose careers you helped launch.

-Are you referring to Trout Fishing in America

by any chance? -Oh, of course! Yes!

-Four-time Grammy nominees, indeed.

Yeah, that was kind of amazing.

You ever meet somebody and you know right away

that you're a couple of misfits of science

and you belong together?

And that was when Trout Fishing in America and I got together.

-Wow, and countless others, too.

-And it's been amazing. Well, we have an event at WXPN.

"Kids Corner" runs an event called KindieComm,

where we try to bring in artists -- kids artists --

from all over the world to network,

to talk to each other, to find out what's going on

in this tiny little piece of music, of entertainment,

but that has enormous impact and enormous long-term impact.

So we may be small, but we're powerful.

-Your mentor, Soupy Sales... -Mm-hmm, Soupy Sales, yes. sort of the quintessential

classic kids' show host.

-He truly was.

-And stand-up comic, of course. -Absolutely.

I brought you... -Oh, a Soupy Sales button!

-...a Soupy Sales pin. -Pin, yes.

-Thanks to the fact that my mother was crazy,

she let me take the train from Huntington, Long Island,

into Manhattan.

-Which is where you grew up. -Grew up.

And, basically, my friends and I were stalking Soupy Sales.

Now, I mean, when I reconnected with him --

-He got to know you, after all. -Oh, boy, did he.

-Right? Yeah!

-He called me "Oaky" because I was determined

that he was going to remember my name with the first autograph,

and there's a zillion Kathy's, but there's only one Oaky.

And when I say "stalk," when I reconnected with him,

the first words out of my mouth were,

"Thank you for never calling the police on us,"

because we would set up our weekends on,

"Okay, well, we're going to wait outside his house,

wait for him to come out and walk the dog,

and we'll walk to the corner and then go explore Manhattan."

-You brought some artifacts that were actually Soupy's!

-I did. Yes, indeed!

Like I said, he and his wife, Trudy, became my second parents.

-Yeah. -They truly did.

And I'm leaving the apartment really late, like

2:30 in the morning one night, and Trudy comes up to me

with a baggy with these things in them and...

-Is that White Fang? -That's White Fang!

And she said, "Do you want to take White Fang

and Black Tooth home?"

And I said -- and Soupy is sitting in the corner

on his couch going, "Yeah, yeah, take them,"

and I'm going, "No, no, too much responsibility! No, thank you!"

And, well, you see. -Right.

And, of course, on his show, the door would open,

and this big paw would come out and go, "Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh."

-Played by Frank Nastasi.

You know, Grover, I don't want to nitpick,

but you're doing more of a Clyde Adler White Fang,

which is a, "Uh, uh, uh, uh,"

whereas Frank Nastasi, the New York White Fang,

it was more like a... [ Grunting ]

Very much like Bob Dylan

singing that "Duquesne Shuffle" song he did a while back.

-I've always mixed the two up -- Bob Dylan and Frank.

-Everyone does.

-So a lot of people are happy

that you're still going 31 years now.

-31 years.

I may stop counting after 30.

I may just go 30-something. -Right.

I think as long as you're having fun,

and I think you've said this, you're going to keep going,

and then you're going to just keep going

because you're having a lot of fun.

-I really am.

-Kathy O'Connell, thank you so much.

-Thank you, Grover.

-The greatest host of "Kids Corner."

We're so thankful that she came from "Kids Corner"...

to our little corner here at Daddypops Diner.

You know, Kathy might be a radio icon

and a total radio pro,

but she's also great on TV.

Easy to see why kids and parents love her.

Viewers always ask me, "How do you make an interview

fun and interesting?"

Well, you invite great people on your show,

people like WMMR's Pierre Robert...

-Do I try to save my radio station,

which is about to go down in flames?

-...the award-winning newscaster Pat Ciarrocchi...

-I had my grandmothers watching me on the air.

-Wow. That's wonderful. -In fact,

they prayed me into the job. -Oh, they did?

...and the effervescent award-winning "Kids Corner" host

Kathy O'Connell.

-Basically, my friends and I were stocking Soupy Sales.

-Well, that's our show for this evening.

We'll be back next week with another "best of" show

you won't want to miss.

See you then.



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