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Bryan Konefsky

Bryan Konefsky, founder and director of Experiments in Cinema, shares his own film “Teatro Principal,” a love letter to a theater in Camaguey, Cuba.

AIRED: September 19, 2020 | 0:26:40
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FREDERICK HAMMERSLEY FOUNDATION...

...AND VIEWERS LIKE YOU

BRYAN KONEFSKY, FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR OF

EXPERIMENTS IN CINEMA, SHARES HIS OWN FILM

"TEATRO PRINCIPAL".

A LOVE LETTER TO A THEATER IN CAMAGUEY, CUBA.

POP ARTIST ROY LICHTENSTEIN SAYS HIS 1973

GIANT METAL SCULPTURE, "MODERN HEAD" WAS ONE OF

THE MOST FUN THINGS HE HAS EVER DONE.

FINDING CONFIDENCE AND JOY THROUGH MUSIC, CHAD

"CHADZILLA" JOHNSON TEACHES THE ART OF ROCK AND ROLL.

STAGING THE DRAMATIC STORY OF CINCINNATI, OHIO'S KING RECORDS.

IT'S ALL AHEAD ON COLORES!

UNDEPENDENT CINEMA.

WELCOME TO COLORES!

I'M SO EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY WITH BRYAN KONEFSKY,

FILM MAKER.

HOW ARE YOU BRYAN?

I'M DOING GREAT HOW ABOUT YOU?

I'M DOING GREAT.

NOW.

NICE TO MEET YOU OVER ZOOM!

NICE TO MEET YOU OVER ZOOM!

I KNOW THAT YOU'VE JUST FINISHED UP THE 15TH

ANNIVERSARY OF EXPERIMENTS IN CINEMA, YOU'VE BEEN

SUPPORTING OTHER FILMMAKERS AND THEIR WORK

AND THEIR EXPRESSION FOR A LONG TIME NOW, BUT YOU

YOURSELF ARE ALSO A FILMMAKER.

YOU RECENTLY MADE A FILM IN CUBA AND WANT TO KNOW

WHAT IT IS IT ABOUT THAT THEATRE THAT CAPTURED YOU?

ARCHITECTURALLY THIS THEATER IN THIS LITTLE

TOWN OF CAMAGUEY WAS UH, WAS BEAUTIFUL I MEAN IT

REALLY STOOD OUT AND UM.

ALSO, IN GOING TO THE THEATRE FOR A PERFORMANCE

IT THE THE THEATER WAS PACKED.

AND IT WAS MOSTLY PACKED WITH LOCAL FOLKS AND YOU

COULD JUST SENSE THAT THIS WAS THEIR ENTERTAINMENT

AND THAT THEY WENT THERE WHENEVER THERE WAS A

PERFORMANCE, THEY LOVED THIS SPACE UMM, THEY THEY

THERE WAS A SENSE OF PRIDE AND A SENSE OF AGENCY THAT

I THAT I FELT UM, EVERYBODY WAS ALL DRESSED

UP AND YOU KNOW THIS WAS THEIR LINCOLN CENTER AND

TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOOT IN THAT SPACE I I

WAS VERY HONORED BECAUSE OF MY OWN HISTORY WITH THE

MOVING IMAGE ARTS, HAVING SPENT SO MUCH OF MY LIFE

IN MOVIE THEATERS.

THIS WAS PARTICULARLY SPECIAL AND AND AND AND

PERSONAL FOR ME.

MM-HMM CONCHITA WAS THE GALS NAME WHO WAS THE

BUILDING MANAGER AND IT HAD BEEN IN HER FAMILY FOR

THREE GENERATIONS.

HER DAD, HER GRANDFATHER AND SHE LOVED TELLING ME

THOSE STORIES AND WHEN SHE GAVE ME A TOUR OF THE

THEATER UMM, IT IT IT UHH, SHE DIDN'T WANNA STOP, IT

IT WAS UH, YOU KNOW WASN'T JUST "WELL HERE'S THE, YOU

KNOW STAGE AND HERE'S THE BACKSTAGE."

I MEAN SHE WAS SHOWING ME ALL OF THESE DETAILS AND

AND AND EVEN REPAIRS THAT SHE REMEMBERS HER

GRANDFATHER HAVING DONE IN THE THEATER AND YOU KNOW

SO MUCH SO MUCH OF IT WAS NOW BEING HELD TOGETHER WITH

YOU KNOW SPIT AND BUBBLEGUM AS IS THE CASE WITH

SO MANY PLACES IN IN CUBA AS THEY STRUGGLE BETWEEN EMBARGOES.

I WAS LOOKING FOR ULTIMATELY, A KIND OF LOVE

LETTER TO THAT THEATRE.

THAT WAS MY UHH, THE THOUGHT THAT WAS IN MY HEAD.

WHY IS FILM MAKING IMPORTANT TO YOU?

IT'S SUCH A DYNAMIC FORM, ESPECIALLY UHH ARTISTS

FILMS, EXPERIMENTAL FILM AND AND I LOVE THAT

DYNAMISM I LOVE THE, THE ABILITY TO JUST TAKE YOUR

IPHONE SOMEWHERE AND SHOOT A MOVIE.

YOU DON'T NEED A WHOLE LOT AND IN THIS PARTICULAR

CASE, I'M KIND OF REMEMBERING THAT THEATRES,

THEATER SPACES HAVE BEEN VERY VERY IMPORTANT TO ME

THROUGHOUT MY LIFE.

I COULD NAME ANY NUMBER OF UNIQUE, AND PROBABLY

VIEWERS COULD TO, EXPERIENCES GOING TO SEE A

MOVIE OR GOING TO SEE A PERFORMANCE AT A UHH, A THEATER.

AND I THINK SOME OF THAT MAYBE RESONATED MY MY OWN

PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAN MAYBE LOCKING IN WITH UHH

CONCHITA'S FAMILY AND UM, AND HOW THEY WERE VERY

INVESTED IN THIS THEATER, PERHAPS IN A SLIGHTLY

DIFFERENT WAY THAN THAN I WAS.

AND AND SO MAYBE THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF, MAYBE IN

SOME WAYS IT WAS MORE OF A SELF-PORTRAIT, THINKING

ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW THAN UHH, THAN I MIGHT UNDER-

YOU KNOW, ADMIT TO.

FROM CONCEPT TO REALITY.

IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN MOST OTHER SCULPTURES

THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE LICHTENSTEINS.

IT'S ABOUT 31 FEET TALL.

WEIGHS IN -- WE BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT

5,000 POUNDS.

IT'S - I MEAN.

IT'S THE MOST FUN THING I'VE EVER DONE.

ROY LICHTENSTEIN BECAME FIRST KNOWN AS A POP ARTIST.

AND THESE POP ARTISTS CAME FROM THE WORD POPULAR

ARTISTS, BUT THEY WERE USING POPULAR SUBJECT MATTER.

AND IN KIND OF A CRITIQUE OR AN ALTERNATIVE TO A

VERY PAINTERLY STYLE OF ABSTRACT EXPRESSION AS OF

FOR THE 1950S.

WELL ROY WAS A VERY DEDICATED ARTIST.

I MEAN HE FELL IN LOVE WITH ART WHEN HE WAS A YOUNG BOY.

AND WHEN IT CAME TIME FOR HIM TO GO TO UNIVERSITY,

HE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO STUDY ART.

AND AT THAT TIME THERE WERE REALLY ONLY A HANDFUL

OF COLLEGES WHERE YOU COULD GET A DEGREE IN ART.

STUDIO ART.

AND OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY WAS ONE OF THEM.

WELL YOU KNOW WE'RE PROUD TO COUNT ROY LICHTENSTEIN

AS A DOUBLE ALUMNUS OF THE UNIVERSITY.

BACK IN THE '40S, HE ACHIEVED BOTH HIS

BACHELORS AND MASTERS DEGREE HERE IN FINE ARTS,

AND WAS PART OF OUR TEACHING FACULTY FOR SOME

TIME FOLLOWING THAT, AND ROY ALWAYS HELD OHIO STATE

UNIVERSITY IN HIGH REGARD BECAUSE OF THIS EXPERIENCE

HE HAD HERE IN THE ART SCHOOL.

IN MORE RECENT YEARS, THE ROY LICHTENSTEIN

FOUNDATION HAS ACTUALLY BEEN LOOKING FOR WAYS THAT

THEY CAN CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH THE UNIVERSITY.

AND SO, IT'S REALLY THROUGH THE FOUNDATION

THAT WE HAVE THIS TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO

ACTUALLY BE CONSIDERED AS THE LOCATION FOR SOMETHING

AS AMAZING AS THIS MODERN HEAD SCULPTURE.

THE MODERN HEAD SCULPTURE, WE FIGURED WE COULD BUILD ONE.

TO DO A MEMORIAL, NON-COMMERCIAL CAST OF AN

ADDITION THAT USED TO BE FOUR.

WE DECIDED TO MAKE ONE MORE ADDITION TO THEM.

THIS IS A POSTHUMOUS ADDITION.

AND THAT IT WOULD BE DONATED TO UNIVERSITY IN

ROY'S MEMORY.

I MEAN WE WOULDN'T REALLY DARE MAKE ANYTHING NEW.

IN FACT, WE GOT THE PLANS FROM THE ORIGINAL PRODUCER

OF THE PIECE.

AND WE WORKED WITH A FABRICATOR THAT ROY HAD

WORKED WITH ON MANY OF HIS PIECES.

PAUL AMARAL.

WE'RE IN RHODE ISLAND.

ON THE EAST BAY JUST A LITTLE BIT EAST OF

DOWNTOWN PROVIDENCE RHODE ISLAND.

AND WE'RE READY TO BUILD THE LICHTENSTEIN SCULPTURE.

THIS ONE HAD BEEN BUILT BEFORE BY OTHER FABRICATORS.

THAT WAS THE CHALLENGE.

TO BUILD IT FROM OTHER PEOPLES DRAWINGS AND

DESIGN PARAMETERS.

THE INPUT INFORMATION THAT I GOT WAS ANALOG HAND DRAWN PIECES.

FROM THE EARLY '80S SO WE HAD TO CORRECT ALL THAT

STUFF AND GET IT RIGHT SO THAT WE COULD HAVE

COMPLETE FAITH IN THE COMPUTER FILE TO PRODUCE A

PIECE THAT IS THE SHAPE THAT ROY INTENDED.

EVERYBODY STARTED FEELING REALLY CONFIDENT TOWARDS

THE END WHEN WE STARTED PRODUCING SMALL SCALE

VERSIONS OUT OF A WATER JET OR A LASER MACHINE.

AND EVERYTHING LINED UP AND MATCHED AND DID WHAT

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.

THE SCULPTURES OF ROY LICHTENSTEIN ARE OFTEN

THOUGHT OF AS VERY TECHNICAL, ALMOST

SCIENTIFIC IN NATURE.

AND SO WHEN FOLKS FROM THE FOUNDATION CAME AND WALKED

ACROSS CAMPUS, THEY FOUND THIS SPACE IN THE NORTH

CAMPUS AREA THAT ACTUALLY ALIGNS NOT ONLY WITH WHERE

WE'RE ENHANCING OUR ARTS DISTRICT.

BUT ALSO PROVIDES THIS REALLY AMAZING SYNERGY

WITH SOME OF OUR SCIENCE BUILDINGS.

PARTICULARLY SMITH AND MCPHERSON LABS.

WHICH ACTUALLY IS CLOSER TO ROY'S PERSONAL INTERESTS.

WHAT ROY WAS - AN ENGINEER.

HE WAS A DRAFTSMAN.

HE WORKED IN ENGINEERING COMPANIES.

HE LIKED MAKING MECHANICAL THINGS BY HIMSELF ANYWAY,

I MEAN THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF ART IS REALLY TO ENGAGE

PEOPLE IN THINKING ABOUT IMAGERY.

WHAT IT MEANS.

SO I'M CURIOS -- I'LL BE VERY CURIOUS TO SEE HOW

THE STUDENTS AT OSU DEAL WITH THIS.

WHAT THEY WONDER ABOUT IT.

SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE IN OHIO FOR

MAKING THIS AS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE

A WORK HERE THAT COULD BE PROVOCATIVE FOR THE TENS

OF THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS WHO WILL BE PASSING BY IT.

IT'S JUST A NICE OPPORTUNITY TO MAINTAIN A RELATIONSHIP.

FIRST BAND.

- HE'S VERY ENERGETIC.

- BO-BLAP-BO-BLAP-BO-BLAP.

HE KIND OF SHOWS YOU HOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PLAY A CERTAIN PART.

- HE'S VERY RELAXED, BUT MAKES SURE YOU GET THE WORK DONE.

- DUDE.

- YEAH, I'M HAVING A REALLY FUN TIME.

- [JEFFREY] HE'S THE PERFECT LEADER FOR

NEWCOMERS TO THE BAND SCENE.

- IT'S JUST REALLY FUN TO PLAY WITH A BAND, IF YOU

HAVEN'T HAD ANY BAND EXPERIENCE BEFORE.

- [JEFFREY] HE'S THE UNIQUE STAPLE OF THE

SWALLOW HILL MUSIC ASSOCIATION, HOUSE OF ROCK

MUSIC CAMP SINCE 2007.

- YEAH!

I LIKE TO CALL MYSELF A MUSICIAN, AND A MUSIC EDUCATOR.

- [JEFFREY] AN EDUCATOR WITH FLAIR.

- WHEN I FILL OUT CENSUS FORMS OR WHATEVER, OR EVEN

TAX FORMS, I SAY I'M A MUSIC EDUCATOR.

BECAUSE I THINK MUSICIAN IS A RED FLAG RIGHT, IMMEDIATELY.

YEAH, AND EVEN WORSE IF YOU PUT DRUMMER.

I PLAY GUITAR, AND BASS, AND KEYBOARD, AND SING,

AND WRITE MUSIC, AND PLAY A LOT OF PERCUSSION INSTRUMENTS TOO.

BUT REALLY I HAVE A CAREER IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY

BECAUSE OF MY DRUMMING.

- [JEFFREY] CHAD JOHNSON, AKA CHADZILLA, BREAKS THE

YOUTH IN WITH ROCK AND ROLL.

- THIS WEEK IS, WE CALL IT THE FIRST BAND.

THEN STOP.

I LIKE TO CALL IT FIRST BAND, BECAUSE IT'S FOR STUDENTS.

WE'VE GOT KIDS FROM 12 TO 16 YEARS OLD IN THIS CAMP.

THIS IS THEIR FIRST BAND, AND THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF

THIS IS TO LIKE, HELP KIDS UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE

TO BE IN A BAND.

- [JEFFREY] WHAT BETTER WAY TO LEARN ROCK AND

ROLL, THEN FROM A ROCK AND ROLL VETERAN?

- I'VE PLAYED EVERY BIG VENUE REALLY, IN COLORADO,

FROM RED ROCKS AND FIDDLER'S GREEN, AND THE

FILLMORE, THE BOULDER THEATER.

- [JEFFREY] HE'S GOT STORIES GALORE.

- ONE OF THE BEST STORIES FOR ME, WHEN I KNEW

REALLY, WHEN I KNEW THAT I WANTED TO DO THIS FOR THE

REST OF MY LIFE, I WAS PLAYING A COLLEGE FRAT

PARTY IN GREELEY.

AND THERE I WAS, 13 YEARS OLD, PLAYING A FRAT PARTY.

I COULD GET ALL THE FREE DR. PEPPER I WANTED.

I HAD DORITOS, ANY KIND OF CHIP I WANTED THERE.

ALL THE COLLEGE GIRLS THOUGHT I WAS SO CUTE.

AW, SO CUTE, AND I GOT PAID 50 BUCKS.

- [JEFFREY] GIRLS, CHIPS, AND DRAG?

- I STARTED AN 80S COVER BAND, AND WE DID THE FILM

ON THE ROCKS AT RED ROCKS.

AND WE DID THAT ON A THURSDAY, AND THEN ON

SUNDAY WE DRESSED IN DRAG TO PLAY THE LIONS LAIR,

THE SAME BAND FOR LIKE A THING TO COMBAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

- [JEFFREY] THOSE WERE THE DAYS.

BUT THINGS CHANGE, WELL SORT OF.

- I DON'T DRINK DR. PEPPER ANYMORE.

I DON'T REALLY EAT DORITOS ANYMORE.

BUT I DON'T MAKE MUCH MORE THAN 50 BUCKS FOR A GIG ANYMORE, SO.

- [JEFFREY] FROM HIS HEART.

- HE IS LISTENING.

- [JEFFREY] IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE KIDS NOW.

- MY REALLY, MY DEEP DOWN, 100% FOCUS IS TO HELP THEM

BECOME THEMSELVES AS MUSICIANS, AND TO MAKE

THEIR OWN BAND, AND TO GO OUT AND BE PART OF THE

MUSIC COMMUNITY IN DENVER.

DUDE, YOU GOT IT BRO!

I AM, FOR THEM, WHAT I WANTED WHEN I WAS THEIR AGE.

- [JEFFREY] CHADZILLA HAS THE PERSONALITY.

- WHEN YOU PLAY THIS SONG, WITH THIS BAND, WE WILL

WORSHIP YOU-- - COUPLED WITH A SPECIAL WAY OF

CONNECTING TO THE STUDENTS.

- IT'S KIND OF SOMETHING THAT I'M PRETTY PROUD OF ACTUALLY.

WE DEVELOP A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP.

YOU KNOW, THE STUDENTS, KIND OF RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

- HE DEFINITELY CONNECTS WITH US, AND TRIES TO

CREATE A GOOD FAMILY, AND MAKE US REALLY A BAND,

BECAUSE BEFORE, WE WERE JUST SOME PEOPLE.

AND NOW WE'RE TOGETHER, WORKING TOGETHER AND CREATING MUSIC.

- I TREAT THEM AS PEOPLE.

I TREAT THEM AS MUSICIANS THAT ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT

CLOSER TO THE BEGINNING OF THEIR MUSICAL JOURNEY.

AND I LOVE TO TELL THEM THAT I'M JUST THE SAME AS

YOU, I'M JUST OLDER AND MORE EXPERIENCED.

BUT I'M JUST A MUSICIAN, JUST FURTHER DOWN THE LINE.

JUST LIKE YOU.

- [JEFFREY] AND THAT KNACK FOR GENERATING INTEREST IN LEARNING.

- AT FIRST, I REALLY, REALLY DIDN'T WANNA BE HERE.

MY MOM SIGNED ME UP FOR THIS, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO GO.

BUT I LEARNED THAT IT WAS BETTER AND BETTER.

AND I EVENTUALLY ACTUALLY REALLY ENJOYED COMING HERE.

- OUR PIANO PLAYER THIS WEEK, CHARLOTTE, THE FIRST

THING SHE SAID WHEN SHE WALKED IN THE DOOR, I

ASKED HER WHAT SHE PLAYS, SHE SAID SHE PLAYS THE TRIANGLE.

I WAS LIKE GOOD, RIGHT ON, WELL YOU'RE GONNA PLAY THE

RECTANGLE TOO, IT'S THE KEYBOARD.

AND THE CIRCLE, WHICH IS THE TAMBOURINE.

- [JEFFREY] AND ABOVE ALL, IT'S JUST FUN.

LIKE A BUCKET OF, WHAT?

- A BUCKET OF FISH, YEAH.

BUCKET OF FISH, BUCKET OF FISH.

I LOVE TO USE LITTLE TODDLER REFERENCES TO HELP

KIDS REMEMBER CERTAIN THINGS, ESPECIALLY DRUMMERS.

IT'S KIND OF FUN TO GET THESE THINGS IN YOUR HEAD

TO REMEMBER WHAT THEY SOUND LIKE AND HOW TO PLAY THEM.

LEARNING HOW TO COUNT AS A MUSICIAN, AND LEARNING HOW

TO READ MUSIC IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THAT PROCESS

OF THEM LEARNING HOW TO READ MUSIC, AND LEARNING

THE THEORY, AND LEARNING THE TECHNIQUES OF THEIR INSTRUMENT.

JUST THESE THINGS THAT CAN GET IN THEIR BRAIN THAT

JUST CAN HELP THEM REMEMBER.

THE BUCKET OF FISH IS THIS COOL LITTLE THING, THAT IF

YOU GO AND YOU SEE A LIVE BAND PLAY, ONCE THE

DRUMMER GETS DONE WITH THE SONG, YOU'LL HEAR THEM GO

THAT'S A BUCKET OF FISH.

THAT WAS WICKED!

YEAH!

AND SO IT'S FUNNY TO JUST REMIND ELI, AT THE END OF

THE SONG, BUCKET OF FISH .

YEAH!

- [JEFFREY] AND IN THE END, HE'LL LEAVE HIS MARK

OF JOY LIKE ONLY HE AND MUSIC CAN.

- I REALLY HOPE THAT THEY CAN, MORE THAN ANYTHING,

HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THEMSELVES.

TO FIND THEMSELVES, TO FIND THEMSELVES MUSICALLY,

AND REALLY, MORE THAN ANYTHING, JUST THAT MUSIC

WILL BRING YOU JOY.

AND WHEN YOU'RE IN DARK TIMES IN YOUR LIFE AND YOU

KNOW, STRANGE STUFF IS HAPPENING WITH YOUR FAMILY

OR WITH YOUR FRIENDS OR WHATEVER, THAT YOU CAN

PICK UP YOUR GUITAR OR YOU CAN SIT AT YOUR DRUMS, AND

IN 10 MINUTES YOU'LL FEEL BETTER.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S ABOUT FOR ME.

SHE'S HOLDING BACK FOR THE CAMERA.

STAGING ROCK AND ROLL HISTORY.

(KJ) KING RECORDS IS A RECORD LABEL THAT

STARTED HERE IN CINCINNATI, OHIO.

IT WAS FOUNDED BY SYD NATHAN IN THE '40S,

PRODUCED RECORDS IN THE '50S AND '60S, EARLY '70S.

IT WAS JAMES BROWN'S FIRST RECORD LABEL.

IT WAS THE RECORD LABEL OF GREAT ARTISTS LIKE HANK

BALLARD AND FREDDIE KING, LITTLE WILLIE JOHN.

IT WENT FROM ABSOLUTELY NOTHING RUN BY A GUY WHO

DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MAKING RECORDS, TO THE SIXTH

LARGEST RECORD LABEL IN THE WORLD IN THE FLASH OF A MOMENT.

IT'S AN INCREDIBLE STORY OF A COMPANY THAT CAME AND

WENT BUT HAD A LASTING IMPACT ON EVERYTHING WE

KNOW ABOUT ROCK, BLUES, COUNTRY...

AMERICAN MUSIC.

(BLAKE) I'VE KNOWN KJ SANCHEZ FOR YEARS, AND

WHEN I HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE TO COME TO

CINCINNATI AND TAKE THIS POSITION AS ARTISTIC

DIRECTOR, I INVITED HER TO COME HERE TO DO A

QUINTESSENTIALLY CINCINNATI STORY.

WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT WAS, BUT SHE ARRIVED

IN TOWN ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO AND WE STARTED ASKING

AROUND, AND WE KEPT HEARING OVER AND OVER, KING RECORDS.

(KJ) AND I JUST GOOGLED IT, AND 15 MINUTES LATER

CALLED HIM AND SAID: YES ,PLEASE!

BLAKE IS SUCH A GREAT ARTISTIC DIRECTOR TO WORK

WITH BECAUSE HE TRUSTS YOU, AND SO HE DOESN'T GET

IN ANYBODY'S HAIR, MICROMANAGING ANYTHING.

BUT HE ALSO HAS A REALLY GREAT EYE, AND SO HE COMES

IN FOR PARTICULAR RUN THROUGHS, OR IN THE

DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PIECE.

HE HAS AN ABILITY TO GIVE ME A HANDFUL OF NOTES THAT

HELP ME ADJUST THE ENTIRE PLAY.

I TOOK A COUPLE OF YEARS OF JUST CREATING A PILE OF

RESOURCE MATERIAL, TRANSCRIPTIONS FROM

INTERVIEWS, RESEARCH, A CATALOG OF MUSIC.

AND THEN I LOOK FOR THE HEART OF MY PIECE, I

FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT A FRAME AROUND IT, I FIGURE

OUT WHO ARE MY KEY INDIVIDUALS, AND I TRY TO

BRING BALANCE, SOME JOY.

ONE OF THE FIRST THEMES THAT EMERGED WHEN I WAS

PUTTING TOGETHER THIS STORY WAS WHAT IT WAS LIKE

TO BE A STUDIO MUSICIAN IN KING RECORDS.

SO I HAVE TO ASK MYSELF CAN I WRITE A PLAY THAT

CAN ONLY BE DONE AS A PLAY?

IT CAN'T DO THE SAME THINGS THAT A DOCUMENTARY FILM CAN DO.

IN A DOCUMENTARY FILM YOU CAN BE MAYBE MORE TRUE TO

JOURNALISTIC PRINCIPLES.

BUT WITH MAKING A PLAY I HAVE TO DEVELOP MY OWN ETHICAL COMPASS.

AND I DO HAVE A SET OF RULES, I DO HAVE MY OWN

COMPASS, AND I DO DEFINE WHAT I FEEL IS ETHICAL AND UNETHICAL.

SO THAT FIRST DAY, THE RITUAL OF THE DIRECTOR

GIVING A SPEECH AND THE DESIGNER SHOWING THE SET

AND COSTUMES IS INFORMATIVE, BUT IT'S ALSO

YOUR FIRST CHANCE TO INSPIRE EVERYBODY AND

INVITE THEM TO BE AS PASSIONATE ABOUT THE

SUBJECT AS YOU ARE.

"THE DEVELOPMENT OF KING RECORDS IS THE BACKDROP

BUT THE PLAY IS REALLY ABOUT PARTICULAR THINGS

THAT ARE INTERESTING TO ME AS AN ARTIST.

THE PLAY IS ABOUT MAKING MUSIC."

THE MUSIC DIRECTION DEVELOPED REALLY ORGANICALLY.

AND THEN WE HAD A LONG SHORTLIST OF OUR FAVORITE

SONGS, AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH THE STORY TO FIND

THE SONGS THAT WERE EMOTIONALLY APPROPRIATE

FOR THOSE MOMENTS.

AFTER THAT, RICHARD STARTED WORKING WITH PHIL

RUNDLE, THE PRODUCTION MANAGER HERE, FIGURING OUT

WHAT THE INSTRUMENTATION WAS.

LITTLE THINGS LIKE SHOULD WE HAVE AN ORGAN, SHOULD

WE HAVE AN UPRIGHT PIANO, SHOULD WE HAVE A GRAND PIANO?

THINKING ABOUT HOW THE MUSIC IS GOING TO LIVE IN

THIS ROOM, BECAUSE THIS ROOM HAS A VERY PARTICULAR SOUND QUALITY.

AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE PIECE IS WE WANT

TO BE AS AUTHENTIC TO THE TIME AS POSSIBLE.

[MURMUR OF STAGE HANDS]

WITH THE SCENIC DESIGNER, THERE'S THIS BALANCE BETWEEN

ARTISTIC GESTURE AND PRACTICAL NEEDS, AND I THINK THE

SAME HOLDS TRUE WITH ALL OF THE DESIGNERS, THAT

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE BALANCING, IS THEY'RE ALL

REALLY GREAT ARTISTS IN THEIR OWN RIGHT AND SO

THEIR DESIGN IS AN ARTISTIC INTERPRETATION OF

WHAT I'M PUTTING IN THE PLAY.

THEY'RE ALL INCREDIBLY COMMITTED TO THE SHOW.

IT'S PRETTY SPECTACULAR.

THE ACTORS COME IN EVERY MORNING WITH, "OH KJ, I

WAS WORKING ON THIS SECTION LAST NIGHT BACK AT

MY APARTMENT AND WHAT IF WE DO THIS?"

AND SO TOO OF THE DESIGNERS.

IT'S ALWAYS ON THEIR MINDS AND I'LL GET RANDOM TEXTS

FROM RACHEL HEALY, THE COSTUME DESIGNER, OF LIKE,

"OH I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS, WHAT IF WE ADD THIS

ONE SPLASH OF COLOR HERE?

WHAT IF WHEN SYD NATHAN TURNS INTO BILL BROWN,

WHAT IF THERE'S A HAT THAT'S THROWN IN?"

WE DO HAVE CHARACTERS TURN INTO OTHER CHARACTERS IN

THE PLAY TOO, IT MIGHT GIVE THE HISTORIANS A

HEART ATTACK, BUT WE'RE HOPING THEY'LL SURVIVE THE JOURNEY.

TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THESE STORIES WITH AUDIENCES, IT

DEFINITELY IS A LABOR OF LOVE ON MY PART AS WELL.

I JUST FEEL LIKE EVERYONE HAS A BEAUTIFUL STORY TO

TELL AS LONG AS YOU TAKE SOME TIME TO LISTEN TO IT.

REPRESENTATION IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO ALL OF

US RIGHT NOW, I AM NOT INTENDING TO GET IT WRONG.

I KNOW I WILL GET IT WRONG IN SOME WAYS BECAUSE YOU

JUST CAN'T BE PERFECT AND SATISFY EVERYBODY'S

AGENDAS AND NEEDS.

BUT I DO FEEL THAT WEIGHT AND RESPONSIBILITY TO

REPRESENT IT AS BEST AS I CAN.

BUT IT'S JUST A REALLY GOOD STORY AND GREAT MUSIC.

SO I'M ALSO JUST HAVING A BLAST WORKING ON THE SHOW.

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