Breaking Big

S1 E10 | CLIP

Gretchen Carlson: Champion of Change

Television Commentator Gretchen Carlson is honored for taking a stand for herself during a time that wasn't as welcoming to the plights of sexual harassment.

AIRED: August 31, 2018 | 0:01:14
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- When I gave up the violin, my parents were devastated,

and they wanted to find another way for me to

use that talent.

And my mom literally got a brochure in the mail,

and she called me, I was studying at Oxford at the time,

she's like, "I found something for you to try."

And I was like, "What?"

- Karen said "I see there's a pageant coming up,

and there's talent involved in it."

So, it gave us a chance to have her extend

her playing a little bit longer.

So, it was kind of a sneaky way to do it, probably but--

- Miss America?

I'm like, "Mom, have you seen my 13-year-old photos?"

My nickname was Goal Post Gretchen

because of my two front teeth.

I had braces twice.

I struggled with my weight my entire life,

but really, specifically as a young person.

I wasn't playing with dolls or

thinking about putting makeup on.

- Really?

- [Gretchen] I loved playing army and football outside

with my brothers and neighbors.

I was a tomboy growing up, like, mom,

what is wrong with you?

- We're taught categories:

you're either pretty or you're smart,

you're in the arts or you're in science,

you're musically talented

so that means you're not likely to be athletic.

These are false categories,

and I think people like Gretchen Carlson make clear

that they don't have to be boxed in.

- I never watched pageants.

This was not something that was on my radar screen at all,

but my mom's an incredibly convincing person.

She's like, "You're smart.

"It's all about interview and talent."

And she said, "But it's gonna take a lot of hard work."

But I believed her.

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