Artbound

The Watts Towers Arts Center
The Watts Towers Arts Center was founded by artists and educators in the 1960s and has been a beacon of art and culture in the community for decades. This episode features the work of artists including Noah Purifoy, John Outterbridge, Betye Saar, Charles White and Mark Steven Greenfield.
TRANSCRIPT
MAN: THE WATTS TOWERS HAVE BEEN
A FOCAL POINT OF CREATIVITY FOR
A LONG TIME.
DIFFERENT MAN: I KNEW WHO I
WAS. I KNEW THAT I WAS AN
ARTIST.
DIFFERENT MAN: THEY WERE
WORKING OUT OF A SHARED NEED TO
COMMUNICATE SOMETHING BASED ON
WHAT THEY HAD TO WORK WITH.
WOMAN: BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE
FOUGHT FOR, THE ABILITY TO BE
FREE TO SAY WHAT WE WANTED TO
SAY.
MAN: YOU GOT TO A USE YOUR ART
AS A TOOL TO BRING ABOUT SOCIAL
CHANGE.
WOMAN: WE HAVE FINE ART IN
WATTS, AND IT'S BEEN GOING ON
61 YEARS BECAUSE OF THE WATTS
TOWERS ART CENTER CAMPUS.
ANNOUNCER: THIS PROGRAM WAS
MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY: A
GRANT FROM ANNE RAY FOUNDATION,
A MARGARET A. CARGILL
PHILANTHROPY; THE CITY OF
LOS ANGELES DEPARTMENT OF
CULTURAL AFFAIRS; THE
LOS ANGELES COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF
ARTS AND CULTURE; AN AWARD FROM
THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE
ARTS, ON THE WEB AT ARTS.GOV; A
GRANT FROM GRoW @ ANNENBERG;
AND THE CALIFORNIA ARTS COUNCIL.
MAN: ♪ HEAR ME SAY ♪
MAN: THE WATTS TOWERS HAS BEEN
A FOCAL POINT OF CREATIVITY FOR
A LONG TIME. IT'S AN ICON TO BE
ACKNOWLEDGED, BUT THAT
CREATIVITY IS ONGOING. IT'S A
COMMUNITY OF HUMANS THAT HAVE A
CREATIVE NATURE.
DIFFERENT MAN: AS KIDS, WE
PLAYED ON THOSE TOWERS, RUN
AWAY BY MR. RODIA HIMSELF.
FILM NARRATOR: SIMON RODIA,
TILE SETTER BY TRADE,
ITALIAN-BORN, AMERICAN FOR HALF
A CENTURY, BUILDER OF DEFIANT
TOWERS.
MAN: THEY CALLED HIM AN
OUTSIDER OF ALL THINGS BECAUSE
HE DIDN'T CONFORM TO ANY OF THE
KNOWN UNDERSTANDINGS OF WHAT
ARTISTS DO.
DIFFERENT MAN: ONCE SIMON RODIA
FINISHED THE WATTS TOWERS AND
HE LEFT, THE ART CENTER WAS
CREATED, AND IT BECAME LIKE A
HUB REALLY FOR BLACK ARTISTS
AND THE BLACK VANGUARD IN
LOS ANGELES, A SPACE FOR BLACK
ARTISTS TO EXHIBIT IN A TIME
WHERE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES
WEREN'T ALLOWED.
WOMAN: PEOPLE COALESCED AROUND
THE TOWERS AND THEN THE WATTS
ARTS CENTER AS A SPACE BECAUSE
OF RODIA'S IDEA OF BUILDING
SOMETHING FROM ESSENTIALLY
NOTHING. SO HE, YOU KNOW,
BUILDS THE TOWERS LITERALLY
FROM SCRAPS AND SHARDS OF
POTTERY AND PORCELAIN AND METAL
THAT HE'S FOUND, AND THAT'S
SORT OF REMINISCENT OF WHAT THE
BLACK COMMUNITY IS, YOU KNOW,
AN AMALGAMATION OF ALL THESE
DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM ALL THESE
DIFFERENT PLACES, EVEN INSIDE
LOS ANGELES, SORT
OF COALESCING AND COMING
TOGETHER TO BUILD SOMETHING
REALLY STRONG AND ENDURING.
MAN: IN WATTS, THERE'S A LARGE
DEGREE OF CULTURAL CAPITAL THAT
GOES UNRECOGNIZED AND
UNDERAPPRECIATED, AND I THINK
THAT THIS CENTER PROVIDES AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE THINGS TO
BE SHOWCASED. IN SO MANY
INSTANCES, CENTERS LIKE THE
WATTS TOWERS ARTS CENTER HAVE
GROWN TO BECOME THESE CREATIVE
HUBS IN THEIR COMMUNITY THAT
ACTUALLY HAVE A VERY CALMING
EFFECT ON THEIR SURROUNDING
AREAS.
WOMAN: WE HAVE FINE ART IN
WATTS, AND IT'S BEEN GOING ON
61 YEARS BECAUSE OF THE WATTS
TOWERS ARTS CENTER CAMPUS.
[POWER TOOL WHIRRING]
LEWIS: IT'S A FUNNY STORY. I
MEAN, IT'S A PRETTY FUNNY--I
THINK I'VE TOLD YOU.
INTERVIEWER: I THINK YOU DID.
LEWIS: YEAH. THE CITY THINKS
WATTS TOWERS IS AN EYESORE, AND
THEY WANT TO TEAR IT DOWN. THE
CITY COMES AND CANNOT BECAUSE
OF THE WAY IT'S BUILT, RIGHT?
SO IT'S LIKE TOTALLY THE
OPPOSITE OF WHAT THEY THINK.
A GROUP FORMS, THE
COMMITTEE TO SAVE THE WATTS
TOWERS. TAKES OVER A LITTLE
HOUSE NEXT TO THE TOWERS AND
WANTS TO START AN ART SCHOOL.
PURIFOY: THEY WERE LOOKING FOR
SOMEBODY WITH AN ART
DEGREE--HEH--AND SOME
EXPERIENCE WITH SOCIAL SERVICE,
WHICH WAS ME. I WAS UNEMPLOYED
AT THE TIME, AND I SAID, "WELL,
THAT SOUNDS JUST LIKE ME," AND
I SPLIT FOR WATTS.
WOMAN: SO YOU GET PEOPLE COMING
OUT OF THE SOUTH, WHO BRING
THOSE EXPERIENCES, HAVE BEEN IN
THE MILITARY, KNOW WHAT A
SEGREGATED ARMY FEELS LIKE, TRY
AND FIND THEIR WAYS,
PARTICULARLY ON G.I. BILLS, ET
CETERA, AND THEY'RE WORKING FOR
AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS
THEMSELVES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
WE FOUGHT FOR, THE ABILITY TO
BE FREE TO SAY WHAT WE WANTED
TO SAY, TO HAVE IDEAS, AND TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE AMERICAN
DREAM.
LEWIS: NOAH WAS BORN IN SNOW
HILL, ALABAMA, 1917, AND IF YOU
WERE TO REMOVE ART FROM NOAH'S
HISTORY, HIS STORY WOULD BE
JUST AS FANTASTIC AND AMAZING.
BORN AT THE HEIGHT OF JIM CROW,
GOES TO COLLEGE, BECOMES A HIGH
SCHOOL TEACHER. THEN THE SECOND
WORLD WAR BEGINS. HE JOINS THE
ARMED SERVICES AS A SEABEE,
USING HIS KNOWLEDGE OF
CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE HE TAUGHT
INDUSTRIAL ARTS IN HIGH SCHOOL.
AFTER THE WAR, HE GOES BACK TO
SCHOOL AND GETS A MASTER'S OF
SOCIAL WORK AND THEN MAKES
HIS WAY OUT TO CALIFORNIA.
PURIFOY: I LEFT OHIO AND CAME
TO CALIFORNIA BECAUSE I'D BEEN
IN THE MILITARY SERVICE IN
CALIFORNIA, AND I DREAMED OF
RETURNING BECAUSE IT WAS VERY
PLEASANT.
LEWIS: HE'S IN CALIFORNIA AS A
SOCIAL WORKER AND ONE DAY GETS
UP FROM HIS DESK, WALKS OUT THE
DOOR, AND GOES AND ENROLLS IN
CHOUINARD ART SCHOOL, WHICH
LATER BECOMES CAL ARTS.
PURIFOY: SO JUST OUT OF THE
CLEAR BLUE I SAID, "I THINK I
WANT TO GO TO ART SCHOOL." I
WAS CONSIDERED THE FIRST
FULL-TIME BLACK STUDENT. I HAD
A STUDIO CLEAN ENOUGH TO EAT
OFF THE TABLE. I HAD A BERET,
AND I ATE CHEESE AND DRANK
WINE, BUT I WASN'T AN ARTIST
YET UNTIL WATTS. THAT MADE ME
AN ARTIST.
LEWIS: NOAH WAS DEFINITELY
INTELLECTUAL. HE HAD THE
BACKGROUND IN SOCIAL WORK, HE
HAS THE ARTS TRAINING. HE HAS
THE MILITARY TRAINING, AND I
GUESS WHEN THEY WANTED HIM TO
BEGIN THE CENTER, IT IS THE
CONFLUENCE OF A LOT OF THINGS
ABOUT NOAH AND HOW HE WANTED TO
INTERACT WITH THIS COMMUNITY.
PURIFOY: THERE WAS ANOTHER
PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY WHOSE
NAME WAS SUE WELSH, AND SUE
WELSH AND I BEGAN TO EXPLORE
THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF
DESIGNING AN ART PROGRAM. WE
WORKED FOR WEEKS ON END TRYING
TO RECRUIT THE YOUTH TO COME TO
THE TOWERS TO EXPERIENCE THE
PROGRAMS THAT WE WERE GOING TO
DESIGN. I ALSO RAN ACROSS
JUDSON POWELL. SO JUDSON
POWELL, SUE, AND MYSELF BECAME
A TEAM TO CREATE A PROGRAM IN
WATTS. I WOULD SAY THAT
IT WAS DEFINITELY A GROUP
EFFORT THAT MADE THAT
LITTLE SCHOOL POSSIBLE.
LEWIS: THE INITIAL IDEA FOR THE
CENTER WAS TO CREATE AN ART
SCHOOL, AND THAT, I GUESS,
DIDN'T SIT WELL WITH NOAH
BECAUSE, I BELIEVE, IN HIS MIND
HE WANTED TO PROVIDE THIS
OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PEOPLE IN
THE COMMUNITY TO EXPRESS
THEMSELVES IN WAYS THEY HADN'T
DONE BEFORE AND THROUGH THAT
ACTIVITY TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF
GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND
THEN, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT
LARGER ISSUES.
PURIFOY: ART IS THE MOST
UNCONTAMINATED DISCIPLINE
EXISTING IN THE WORLD. THERE
WAS EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO
INTERRELATE IT WITH EVEN
POVERTY.
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
JEFFERSON: AS YOU HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO LIVE THE
AMERICAN DREAM AND ALLEGEDLY
MOVE UP, NO MATTER WHAT YOUR
RACIAL BACKGROUND, THE HOUSING
BECOMES AVAILABLE TO THE NEXT
GROUP THAT'S TRYING TO MOVE.
THE DIFFERENCE IS FOR
AFRICAN-AMERICANS, AS WE
DESEGREGATED, WHAT GOT LEFT
BEHIND WERE THE POOREST AMONGST
US, THOSE LEAST ABLE TO MOVE,
AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT STARTS
TO LEAVE AREAS LIKE WATTS AND
COMPTON, ET CETERA ABANDONED NOT
JUST BECAUSE THE INDUSTRIES HAVE
STARTED TO MOVE AWAY BUT BECAUSE
THERE WAS NO DESIRE, NO INTEREST
TO PUT RESOURCES INTO THE
BLACK COMMUNITY, SO ALL BLACK
PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY
WERE FEELING THE ANXIETY OF
"THINGS NEED TO BE DIFFERENT."
[CHANTING]
PURIFOY: AS A RULE, BLACK KIDS,
PARTICULARLY POOR BLACK KIDS,
HAVE A LOW SELF-ESTEEM, A LOW
SELF-IMAGE, AND THE OBJECT HERE
WAS TO RAISE THEIR SELF-IMAGE.
IF THEY COULD COME TO THE
TOWERS AND HAVE A GOOD
EXPERIENCE, A POSITIVE
EXPERIENCE, THEY COULD TAKE
THIS EXPERIENCE WITH THEM
WHEREVER THEY GO AND IMPROVE
THEIR SELF-IMAGE, AND THIS
WOULD MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF
DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THEIR
ABILITY AND CAPACITY TO GRASP
WHATEVER THE OBJECTIVES WERE,
WHETHER IT WAS IN SCHOOL OR OUT
OF SCHOOL. OFTENTIMES, WE'D TAKE
THE CHILDREN ON TRIPS TO PICK UP
OBJECTS--JUNK AND WHATNOT--AND
BRING IT BACK TO THE TOWERS, TO
THE ART CENTER TO DO ASSEMBLAGES
AND COLLAGES AND SO FORTH. IN
LARGE CITIES, JUNK IS NOT OFTEN
DISPOSED OF AT GARBAGE DUMPS.
WHEREVER THERE ARE POOR PEOPLE,
THERE'S PILES OF JUNK. PEOPLE
BRING THE JUNK THERE. IN
WATTS, IT WAS EXTREMELY
ACCESSIBLE. MOUNDS OF SCRAP
METAL ALL OVER THE PLACE.
MAN: ABOUT 60% OF THE PEOPLES
IN WATTS ARE OUT OF WORK, DON'T
HAVE JOBS, LIVING ON WELFARE OF
SOME SORTS, AND ALL THESE
THINGS ARE BUILDING UP. PEOPLES
MIGHT HAVE A TV. THEY CAN SEE
THE NICE THINGS IN THE OTHER
PARTS OF THE CITY, AND THEY
KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE
WORLD. THEY SEE MILLIONS AND
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT ON
ROCKETS AND FIRST ONE THING,
THEN ANOTHER. SENT
OVERSEAS TO OTHER COUNTRIES,
AND HERE IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY,
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HUNGRY,
THEY'RE OUT OF A JOB,
THEY'RE JUST BEAT. YOU KNOW,
THEY'RE LETTING OFF STEAM.
MAN: YOU REALLY HAVE TO BEGIN
IN 1965. THAT WAS THE YEAR OF
THE REVOLT. IT CAUSED A
REVOLUTION IN THE THINKING, NOT
ONLY OF BLACKS WHO LIVED IN
WATTS AND THROUGHOUT
LOS ANGELES, BUT THE ENTIRE
COUNTRY. AS A MIDDLE- TO
LOW-INCOME COMMUNITY, PUBLIC
SERVICES THAT HAD LONG BEEN
DENIED GAVE RISE TO THE
REACTION TO A POLICE BRUTALITY
INCIDENT, WHICH WAS THE ORDER
OF THE DAY IN THE MID SIXTIES.
IT WAS NOTHING TO LEARN THAT A
FRIEND, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF MY
BEST FRIENDS, HAD BEEN BEATEN
NEAR DEATH BY THE POLICEMEN FOR
JAYWALKING. THE MARQUETTE
INCIDENT ON A 116th AND AVALON
WAS SET OFF IN THAT ATMOSPHERE
OF RISING EXPECTATIONS, AND THE
FEELING WAS AMONG MY GENERATION
IS THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT
ANYMORE, AND SO IF WE CAN'T BE A
PART OF THE SYSTEM, THEN
WE WILL ATTACK THE SYSTEM.
PURIFOY: MY IMPRESSION WAS THAT
IT WAS A MOST DEVASTATING
EVENT. HAD THERE BEEN JUST
LOOTING, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
ONE THING, BUT THERE WAS NOT
ONLY LOOTING. THERE WERE FIRES,
SMOKE THAT PERMEATED THE WHOLE
COMMUNITY, AND THOSE WERE THE
SIGHTS THAT WE SAW FROM OUR
BACK DOOR. WE SAW POLICE IN THE
PLACE, FIREMEN TRYING TO PUT
OUT THE FIRES UNSUCCESSFULLY.
WE SAW CROWDS AND CROWDS OF
PEOPLE RUNNING TO AND FRO. THE
VIEW FROM THE TOWERS WAS CLEAR
AND UNOBSTRUCTED. WE COULD SEE
CLEARLY WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON
107th STREET.
SANDERS: THE EXPLOSION WITHIN
OUR INNER CITIES, NOT ONLY IN
LOS ANGELES BUT IN OTHER MAJOR
CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THE
WHOLE POETRY OF THE ERA WHERE
EVERYTHING WAS STILL RISING,
THAT THIS WAS NOT A WAR TO END
WARS. IT WAS A SHOUT OUT, IT
WAS A BEGINNING. IT WAS A
BREAKING OUT.
JEFFERSON: IT CHANGED SO MANY
LIVES BECAUSE YOU LOOKED UP,
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE
NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ON FIRE. NOT
THAT THEY HADN'T SEEN IT BEING
DESTROYED ANYWAY, BUT NOW IT'S
REALLY ON FIRE, AND WHAT'S LEFT
ARE CHARRED REMAINS.
LEWIS: AFTER THE RIOTS, NOAH
AND JUDSON POWELL GO OUT AND
BEGIN COLLECTING MATERIAL. I
GUESS THERE WAS THIS NEED TO
KIND OF REASSESS WHAT HAD
HAPPENED THROUGH THE MATERIAL
CULTURE OF THE RIOTS.
PURIFOY: WE HAD COLLECTED 3
TONS OF DEBRIS AFTER THE RIOT,
AND WE FASHIONED IT IN SOME
KIND OF A SCULPTURE AND
WHATNOT. THERE'S SOMETHING
ABOUT OBJECTS THAT APPEAL TO ME
IS THAT IT STIMULATES MY
IMAGINATION. I CAN THINK TO DO
SOMETHING WITH IT, TURN IT INTO
SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN WHAT
IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR.
JEFFERSON: AND PROBABLY THE
MOST SIGNIFICANT PIECE THAT
NOAH MADE IN MY OPINION IS THE
"WATTS RIOT" PIECE THAT HE MADE
OUT OF THE CHARRED REMAINS OF
THE BUILDINGS THAT HAD BURNED,
AND YOU SEE HIM GLUE BURNT WOOD
AND PAINT AND PAINT ON TOP OF
IT. IT WAS HIS WAY OF TAKING
THOSE CHARRED REMAINS AND
MAKING AN ABSTRACT WORK OUT OF
IT AT A TIME WHEN ABSTRACT ART
IS ALSO STARTING TO TAKE HOLD A
LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE COUNTRY.
MAN: IN MOST INSTANCES, THESE
ARTISTS WERE WORKING WITHOUT
REFERENCE TO ANY WESTERN CANONS
OF ART. THEY WERE WORKING OUT
OF A SHEER NEED TO COMMUNICATE
SOMETHING BASED ON WHAT THEY
HAD TO WORK WITH. TO A LARGE
DEGREE, I THINK THEY WERE DOING
IT EVEN BEFORE SOME OF THE
ARTISTS THAT WE'VE COME TO KNOW
AS DOING ASSEMBLAGE. I THINK
THEY WERE PIONEERS.
PURIFOY: SO WE INVITED SOME
OTHER ARTISTS TO COME IN AND
CART AWAY SOME OF THE JUNK AND
MAKE SOMETHING FOR THE FIRST
FESTIVAL, WHICH WAS AT MARKHAM
HIGH SCHOOL.
LEWIS: AND WITH ANOTHER GROUP
OF ARTISTS, THEY PUT TOGETHER
"THE 66 SIGNS OF NEON."
PURIFOY: THE EXHIBIT GOT ITS
TITLE FROM THE DRIPPINGS OF
NEON SIGNS UPON THE GROUND
MIXING WITH THE SAND AND DIRT.
SO WHAT JUDSON AND I DID WAS
JUST SIMPLY TAKE THE SHAPES OUT
OF THE SAND AND BRUSH THEM OFF
AND MOUNT THEM ON SOMETHING AND
SOLD THEM, AND THEY WENT LIKE
HOTCAKES.
WOMAN: FOR 3 YEARS, THE SHOW
TRAVELED TO 9 VENUES BOTH
NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY.
IT WAS EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL. IT
REACHED A REALLY WIDE AUDIENCE,
AND PEOPLE FOUND IT REALLY
MOVING. THE REBELLION ITSELF
WAS A CALL FOR CHANGE, AND THE
ARTISTS THAT WORKED WITH THE
LITERAL MATERIALS THAT THEY
COLLECTED AFTERWARDS WERE
SHOWING HOW WE COULD CREATE
CHANGE AND UPLIFTING PEOPLE.
PURIFOY: AND WE SOLD A LOT OF
STUFF, AND WE'D SEND THE MONEY
BACK, AND WE WOULD MAKE SOME
MORE STUFF. SO WE ALWAYS HAD 66
PIECES TO DISPLAY, BUT THERE
WERE DIFFERENT PIECES FROM TIME
TO TIME BECAUSE WE MADE SALES,
AND THAT'S HOW WE EXISTED, BUT
FROM WASHINGTON, D.C., THE
EXHIBIT TRAVELED, AND ABOUT
1969, IT CAME BACK IN A TRUCK
JUST ABOUT IN THE SAME SHAPE IT
WAS WHEN WE FOUND IT IN WATTS,
IN THE SMOLDERING EMBERS OF THE
WATTS RIOT. IN OTHER WORDS, THAT
WAS THE END OF "SIGNS OF NEON. "
IT WAS BACK IN
ITS ORIGINAL STATE, JUNK!
WOMAN: I THINK THAT "THE 66
SIGNS OF NEON" WAS REALLY
IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT BEGAN TO
SHOW LARGER COMMUNITIES WHAT
KIND OF VISUAL LANGUAGE WAS
BEING MADE BY PEOPLE IN
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, AND SO
AFTER THE REBELLION, L.A.
ARTISTS REALLY START TO HAVE
THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THOSE
IDEAS AND WHAT THEIR ROLE IS IN
THOSE THINGS.
LOYER: ARTISTS IN LOS ANGELES
WEREN'T WORKING AS A FORMAL
COLLECTIVE, BUT THEY WERE
AFFECTING EACH OTHER'S
PRACTICES STILL, AND THEY CAME
TO A SORT OF SHARED AESTHETIC
OF ASSEMBLAGE. MANY OF THEM
WERE WORKING WITH FOUND
MATERIALS. BETYE SAAR, WITH
WORKS LIKE "THE LIBERATION OF
AUNT JEMIMA,"
ONE OF HER MOST
FAMOUS ASSEMBLAGE WORKS.
SAAR: IT WAS MY PERSONAL WAY OF
REACTING IN ANGER TO WHAT WAS
HAPPENING TO BLACKS AND WHAT
HAD HAPPENED TO BLACKS.
OUTTERBRIDGE: THE ANGER THAT
SHE MIGHT SHOW IN SOME OF THE
WORK BECOMES PITY, YOU KNOW,
AND HURT.
JEFFERSON: BUT WHEN THE RIOTS
HAPPEN, IT'S ALSO AT A TIME
WHEN AMERICA AND BLACK AMERICA
ARE LOOKING FOR REFERENCES FOR
TOOLS, FOR ITEMS THAT MIGHT
DEPICT THEIR EXPERIENCE AND
GIVING THEM A SECONDARY LIFE, A
SECONDARY MEANING.
MONIZ: ARTISTS ARE STARTING TO
USE THE MATERIAL FROM THE
STREETS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO
STARTING TO SEE HOW IMPORTANT
THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY'RE USING
IN THEIR WORK IN TERMS OF BOTH
ASSEMBLAGE BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW,
METAL WORK THAT COMES OUT, AND
THERE'S SO MUCH TO BE SAID.
THERE ARE SO MANY STORIES TO
TELL, AND THE LANGUAGE THAT
THEY'RE GIVING TO THE COMMUNITY
AND THEN BROADCASTING OUT INTO
LARGER COMMUNITIES, IT WAS
REALLY A PIVOTAL MOMENT THAT,
I THINK, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF
PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY LOTS OF
LARGER INSTITUTIONS, DIDN'T
NECESSARILY PICK UP ON, BUT, YOU
KNOW, IT DIDN'T MATTER. THAT
WASN'T THE GOAL. THAT WASN'T THE
AUDIENCE. THE AUDIENCE WAS THE
COMMUNITIES THAT THESE ARTISTS
LIVED IN AND SUPPLYING THEM WITH
LANGUAGE THAT WOULD SUPPORT
THEM, SUSTAIN THEM, AND GIVE
THEM OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW.
GREENFIELD: SOMETIMES I LOOK
AT, YOU KNOW, INSTITUTIONS,
SOME INSTITUTIONS, AS
POSITIONING THEMSELVES AS
GATEKEEPERS, AND WHENEVER I SEE
A GATEKEEPER, I USUALLY TRY TO
JUMP OVER THE FENCE, AND I
THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY DID A
LOT. I MEAN, THERE'S THE STORY
OF CHARLES WHITE, YOU KNOW,
DRIVING UP TO LACMA ONE DAY
TRYING TO GET A CURATOR TO TAKE
A LOOK AT HIS WORK AND ACTUALLY
HAVING TO PULL THE CURATOR OUT,
TAKE HIM TO THE TRUNK OF HIS
CAR, AND SHOW HIM HIS DRAWINGS.
JEFFERSON: DEPICTIONS OF
AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN POSITIVE
LIGHT WAS IMPORTANT TO THE
MOVEMENT, SO CHARLES WHITE IS
MAKING WORK THAT IS DEPICTING
STRONG, PROUD BLACK PEOPLE.
EVEN IF HE DOES A MOMENT IN
THEIR SUFFERING, MOST OF HIS
WORK IS SHOWING US WITH OUR
HEAD LIFTED HIGH.
GREENFIELD: I THINK CHARLES
WHITE WAS A SEMINAL FIGURE IN
ACTUALLY DEFINING THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN AESTHETIC IN
THE SIXTIES, SEVENTIES, AND
BEYOND. THERE WERE SO MANY
ARTISTS WHO, I THINK, HE
INSPIRED THROUGH HIS DEPICTION.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
WE WERE HIT OVER THE HEAD WITH
THE IDEA BLACK WAS BEAUTIFUL,
AND WE KEPT LOOKING FOR IMAGES
THAT SAID THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT
CHARLES WHITE'S WORK DID FOR
US, AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF
OTHER ARTISTS PICKED UP ON
THAT AND EMULATED THAT WORK
AND EMULATED HIS STYLE IN
MANY REGARDS. I KNOW I DID.
WHITE: WHEN I USE THIS IMAGE,
I'M NOT ADDRESSING MYSELF
SOLELY TO THE BLACK PEOPLE.
HOPEFULLY THAT I'M CREATING THE
IMAGE THAT CRIES FOR JUSTICE
FOR ALL OPPRESSED PEOPLE.
MAN: AND BLACK! BROTHER BLACK!
WOMAN: BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL
BECAUSE IT FEELS SO GOOD!
JEFFERSON: I THINK EVERY
GENERATION LOOKS FOR A NEW WAY
TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES. AS THE
CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT TAKES
HOLD IN THE SIXTIES AND
SEVENTIES AND THE BLACK POWER
MOVEMENT, WHEN WE START TO
REFER TO OURSELVES AS BLACK,
YOU CAN KEEP PUSHING THE
ENVELOPE, AND YOU CAN KEEP
TALKING ABOUT THAT MARCH TO
EMANCIPATION AND ET CETERA. SO
IT'S AN EVOLUTION AS TO HOW FAR
YOU CAN GO AND WHAT IT IS THAT
YOU HAVE TO SAY.
SANDERS: THE ART IN THAT
PARTICULAR ERA GREW OUT OF
THAT. IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT
WE WERE HUNGRY FOR EXPRESSIONS
OF THOSE LONG-HELD, DEEP-SEATED
FEELINGS OF, ON THE ONE HAND,
FRUSTRATION, ON THE OTHER HAND,
HOPE, AND THE ART REFLECTS
THAT, A KIND OF EMPOWERMENT.
THE ART BECAME CONFRONTATIONAL.
IT WAS ACCUSATORY. IT WAS
SAYING, "HERE I AM. I'M BLACK,
AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, TOO
BAD, BUT THIS IS THE WAY I
FEEL."
DAVIS: THE PERIOD REALLY
REPRESENTS A KIND OF
RENAISSANCE. MIGHT NOT EVEN BE
A RENAISSANCE, YOU KNOW. A
RENAISSANCE IS A REBIRTH. THIS
COULD HAVE BEEN LIKE A FIRST
BIRTH, YOU KNOW, A REAL FIRST
OPPORTUNITY FOR MINORITY
ARTISTS TO SHOWCASE THEIR WORK.
LOYER: THERE'S JUST SORT OF A
SOMEWHAT COLLECTIVE ETHOS IN
THE AIR. PEOPLE ARE REALLY
CREATING THE SPACES THAT THEY
NEED TO BE SHOWING THEIR WORK.
DAVIS: THE WATTS TOWERS, THE
CREATIVE ARTS ACADEMY, THE
WATTS WRITERS WORKSHOP,
PASLA--PERFORMING ARTS SOCIETY
OF LOS ANGELES. SO BECAUSE
THERE WAS A CULTURAL
CONSCIOUSNESS, WE WERE INVOLVED
IN TOTAL COMMUNITY, AND WE
TALKED ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES, AND
WE THOUGHT, "WE SHOULD OPEN A
GALLERY."
MAN: ALONZO DAVIS AND HIS
BROTHER DALE DAVIS STARTED
THEIR GALLERY, AND THEIR
GALLERY BECAME THE CORNERSTONE
OF A PLACE TO SHOW. IT WAS
WHERE THE "L.A. TIMES" WOULD
COME DOWN AND ACTUALLY GIVE A
CRITIQUE OF THE SHOW.
DAVIS: THAT WAS THE BEGINNING
OF AN OPPORTUNITY THAT CHANGED
OUR LIVES AND A LOT OF OTHER
PEOPLE'S LIVES.
MONIZ: I THINK THAT THE POST
WATTS REBELLION IN LOS ANGELES
GAVE A LOT OF ARTISTS MATERIAL
TO USE IN THEIR ART MAKING, BUT
IT ALSO STARTED TO DEFINE FOR
ARTISTS WHO WEREN'T PART OF
THAT GROUP THE POWER OF WHAT
THEIR ART MAKING WAS, AND THERE
WERE, YOU KNOW, AT BROCKMAN
GALLERY IN 1967 WHEN IT BEGAN,
THESE SATURDAY FORUMS WHERE
THEY WOULD COME AND DEBATE WHAT
THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES WERE AS
ARTISTS AND AS MAKERS AND AS
COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THEY USED
TO GET INTO HUGE FIGHTS WITH
EACH OTHER ABOUT WHAT THEIR
ROLES WERE, WHAT THEIR
RESPONSIBILITIES WERE, WHAT
BLACK ART WAS, IF THERE WAS EVEN
SUCH A THING. THE POWER LIES
WITH THESE MAKERS IN PARTICULAR
AND THE WAYS THAT THEY COULD
TRANSLATE WHAT ALREADY WAS
AND TAKE, AGAIN LIKE THE TOWERS,
TAKE PARTS OF LOTS OF THINGS AND
MAKE THEM INTO SOMETHING
COMPLETELY NEW AND THEIR OWN.
BOOKER: I'M CLAUDE BOOKER. I'M
PRESIDENT OF THE BLACK ARTS
COUNCIL AND DIRECTOR OF THIS
INSTALLATION. AS BLACK PEOPLE
START TO DECIDE THEIR--WHAT
THEIR FATE AND DESTINY WILL BE,
AS WE ARE NOT ALLOWED IN
MUSEUMS, AS WE START TO DEVELOP
OUR OWN CRITICS AND AESTHETICS,
I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO
FIND THAT ART WON'T BE SO
PRECIOUS WITH BLACK PEOPLE AS
IT IS IN THE MAINSTREAM. I
BELIEVE THAT WE'LL RETURN TO
FUNCTIONAL ART. I JUST PASSED BY
A TRUCK ON THE WAY
TO WILL ROGERS DOWN ON
CENTURY. THEY WERE SELLING
WATERMELONS AND PAINTINGS.
GREENFIELD: SIMON RODIA'S HOUSE
BURNED DOWN IN A FIRE. NOBODY
KNOWS QUITE HOW IT STARTED. THE
ONLY THING LEFT WAS THE
FOUNDATION. CURTIS TANN STARTED
CONDUCTING ART CLASSES ON THE
FOUNDATION OF THE HOUSE. THEY
PUT A TARP OVER THE REMAINS TO
MORE OR LESS SHIELD EVERYTHING,
AND THEN ARTISTS WOULD KIND OF
VOLUNTEER. THEY'D KIND OF DROP
IN AND HELP TEACH CLASSES
THERE. THERE WAS NOTHING VERY
FORMAL ABOUT IT AT ALL.
MAN: CURTIS TANN, HE WAS
VERY SENSITIVE TO THE CREATIVE
SPIRITS OF OTHER ARTISTS. HE
WAS A GOOD MENTOR IN
RELATIONSHIP TO HOW ARTISTS
SHOULD BE TREATED AND HOW
ARTISTS SHOULD CONDUCT
THEMSELVES IN THAT KIND OF
POSITION.
PURIFOY: HE CAME FROM KARAMU
HOUSE. I THINK CALLING
OURSELVES COMMUNITY ARTISTS
HARKS BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF
ART IN CLEVELAND AT THE KARAMU
HOUSE, WHERE THEY WERE
PRACTICING COMMUNITY ART FOR
YEARS. COMMUNITY ART HAS A
CERTAIN BELIEF SYSTEM. IT
DOESN'T BELIEVE IN ART FOR
ART'S SAKE. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE
THE PROBLEM THAT ONE WOULD HAVE
IN AN ELITE COMMUNITY LIKE
LOS ANGELES WITH THIS KIND OF
BELIEF SYSTEM, AND YET WE WERE
CONSISTENT WITH OUR IDEA.
GREENFIELD: NOAH AND CURTIS
THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA
TO HAVE A PERMANENT STRUCTURE
THERE, AND THEY HAD A LOT OF
PEOPLE WORKING WITH THE
ORIGINAL SIMON RODIA'S
COMMITTEE, AND THE CENTER WAS
ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO BE A
TEMPORARY STRUCTURE. IT'S BEEN
TEMPORARY NOW FOR HOW MANY
YEARS? IT'S NOT EVEN ON A
FOUNDATION. IT'S ON THIS
CONCRETE SLAB, OK? THERE'S A
LINK BETWEEN NOAH PURIFOY,
JUDSON POWELL, CURTIS TANN,
AND JOHN OUTTERBRIDGE.
JEFFERSON: JOHN OUTTERBRIDGE
CAME OUT HERE AND BECAME
FASCINATED NOT ONLY WITH
LOS ANGELES AND ALL THAT WAS
POSSIBLE WITH IT, BUT HE FOUND
FRIENDS, AND HE MADE ALLIES,
AND TOGETHER, HE CARED ABOUT
OFFERING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE
WEREN'T GIVING TO US, SO, YOU
KNOW, LET'S HAVE A
COMMUNICATIVE ARTS ACADEMY, AND
IF YOU HAVE THE WATTS TOWER ART
CENTER, IF YOU HAVE OUTTERBRIDGE
STARTING THE COMMUNICATIVE ARTS
ACADEMY WHERE THEY HAD DANCE AND
MUSIC, THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD
ACTIVITY. NOBODY WAS TRYING TO
COME IN AND BRING THIS STUFF FOR
THEM. IT WAS FROM THE GROUND UP,
AND THEY MADE IT HAPPEN.
OUTTERBRIDGE: IN LOS ANGELES,
AS I WAS INTRODUCED TO
THIS CITY, ABOUT ART THE TOOL
FOR CHANGE. WE STARTED TO HAVE
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE STREET
ENVIRONMENT BEING THE STUDIO
ENVIRONMENT, AND I REALLY
BELIEVED THAT--OR THE STUDIO
BEING ANYWHERE THAT YOU CHOSE
FOR IT TO BE. NOAH AND JUDSON
POWELL TALKED TO ME A LOT ABOUT
THAT, AND IT FORMED AN ATTITUDE
THAT I JUST EMBRACED WITHIN
MYSELF.
PURIFOY: AT THE TIME, I RECALL,
WE DIDN'T VERBALIZE MUCH ABOUT
ART. WE INSISTED THAT ART
SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, BUT MY
ATTITUDE TOWARD THAT CONCEPT
WAS THAT IT WAS ELITE AND THAT
POOR PEOPLE COULD NOT AFFORD TO
FEEL THAT SOMETHING WAS IN AND
OF ITSELF BECAUSE OF BASIC
NEEDS AND DEPENDENCY. IT'S AN
ELITIST CONCEPT TO FEEL THAT
ART IS IN AND OF ITSELF ART. IT
IS NOT IN AND OF ITSELF BECAUSE
IT INTERRELATES WITH THE WORLD
AT LARGE, SO WE BEGAN TO THINK
ABOUT HAVING AN ART EXHIBITION.
IT WAS AT THE MARKHAM HIGH
SCHOOL. IT'S A STONE'S
THROW FROM THE WATTS TOWERS
ARTS CENTER, WHERE WE HAD
OUR FIRST ARTS FESTIVAL.
OUTTERBRIDGE: THE WATTS SUMMER
FESTIVALS. THOSE WERE VERY
EXCITING. NOAH PURIFOY HAD A
LOT TO DO WITH BRINGING THOSE
EARLY EXHIBITS TOGETHER.
PURIFOY: WE PICKED PEOPLE LIKE
OUTTERBRIDGE AND ALONZO DAVIS
AND DALE, HIS BROTHER, TO DO
THE JUDGING AND WHATNOT, PEOPLE
THAT THE COMMUNITY RESPECTED.
ALSO, WE WOULD STIMULATE THE
ARTISTS TO DO WORK EXPRESSLY
FOR THE FESTIVAL. NOT ONLY DID
WE DO THAT, WE WENT AROUND TO
ALL THE SCHOOLS AND COLLECTED
WORKS BY THE STUDENTS.
MAN: OVER IN THIS SECTION, WE
HAVE A SERIES OF PIECES, MOST
OF WHICH WERE DONE BY STUDENTS
AT THE WATTS TOWERS ART CENTER.
THEY HAVE A YEA-LONG PROGRAM
ALONG WITH A SUMMER PROGRAM,
AND MANY OF THE STUDENTS HAVE
GREAT POTENTIAL IF THEIR SKILLS
AND EXPERTISE ARE DEVELOPED.
OVER HERE, WE HAVE 3 EXAMPLES
OF POP ART, THE GUM, A PACKAGE
OF KOOLS, AND CREST TOOTHPASTE.
THE SHAPE CANVAS OVER HERE WAS
ALSO DONE BY ONE OF THE
STUDENTS AT THE
WATTS TOWERS ART CENTER.
DICKSON: AND SO THROUGH THE
UNDERSTANDING OF NOAH AND
JUDSON AND CECIL FERGUSON, THEY
PUT TOGETHER THIS WONDERFUL
GROUP OF PEOPLE EXPOSING
PROFESSIONALS AND
NON-PROFESSIONALS TO EACH
OTHER, AND IT WAS SO POWERFUL.
FERGUSON: YOU KNOW, IT'S
AMAZING, AND NOW THAT I THINK
BACK PRIOR TO 1966--AND I
WORKED IN A MAJOR INSTITUTION,
WHICH WAS LOS ANGELES COUNTY
ART MUSEUM--I KNEW OF TWO BLACK
ARTISTS, I MEAN, PEOPLE WHO
WERE BLACK THAT PAINTED.
WOMAN: IS THAT RIGHT?
FERGUSON: AND THE FIRST YEAR OF
THE FESTIVAL UPON REACHING THE
FESTIVAL GROUNDS, I SAW ALL
THESE CANVASES AND SCULPTURE
AND ASSEMBLAGES AND COLLAGES
AND ALL THESE STATEMENTS, YOU
KNOW, AND I WAS COMPLETELY IN
AWE BECAUSE I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
BLACK PEOPLE PAINTED.
PURIFOY: SO WE GOT TO STIMULATE
QUITE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY, THUS MAKING US
REALLY COMMUNITY ARTISTS. WE
WEREN'T ARTISTS WHO CLOSED
THEMSELVES UP IN A STUDIO. WE
WERE REALLY OUT ON THE STREETS,
MINGLING WITH THE PEOPLE.
OUTTERBRIDGE: NOAH'S BACKGROUND
HAD A GREAT DEAL TO DO WITH THE
USE OF ART AS A TOOL TO BRING
ABOUT SOCIAL CHANGE. WHEN I
FIRST STARTED TO FEEL
COMFORTABLE WITH USING ART AS A
TOOL, THE LANGUAGE THAT I
STARTED TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE
LIKE PURIFOY AND JUDSON, WE
KNEW THAT THESE CHANGES WERE
VERY NECESSARY, AND WE KNEW
THAT WE HAD TO BE PARTICIPANTS
IN THIS ARENA.
GREENFIELD: JOHN OUTTERBRIDGE
AT THE TIME HAD BEEN AT THE
COMMUNICATIVE ARTS ACADEMY IN
COMPTON.
OUTTERBRIDGE: MY ASSOCIATION
WITH THE ACADEMY IN COMPTON HAD
BROUGHT ME AND OTHERS ON STAFF
IN CONTACT WITH ORGANIZATIONS,
INDIVIDUALS IN THE GREATER ARTS
COMMUNITY OF LOS ANGELES. WE
STARTED TO CHALLENGE THE
INSTITUTIONS TOGETHER, AND THAT
WAS VERY HEALTHY. IN 1973 AND
1974, WE STARTED TO RUN INTO
FINANCIAL PROBLEMS, AS WE
ALWAYS HAD FINANCIAL PROBLEMS
AT THE ACADEMY. THINGS THAT WE
DID TO SURVIVE PEOPLE WOULD NOT
BELIEVE.
DICKSON: POLITIC PEOPLE LOVED
JOHN BECAUSE HE COULD TALK THAT
TALK. SO THOSE POLITICS LED
JOHN TO THE WATTS TOWERS WHEN
THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A
DIRECTOR.
OUTTERBRIDGE: MY PLANS IN 1974,
EARLY 1975 WAS SIMPLY TO GET
BACK IN THE STUDIO, NOT
SEPARATE MYSELF FROM THE
MOVEMENT TOTALLY BUT TO
MEDITATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON
WHO I WAS AS A PERSON. I KNEW
WHO I WAS, I KNEW THAT I WAS AN
ARTIST, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WHEN
GUY MILLER IN WATTS TOLD ME
BACK IN THE SIXTIES THAT--SAID,
"OUTTERBRIDGE, YOU'VE GOT TO
USE YOUR ART AS A TOOL. YOU'VE
GOT TO COME OUT HERE AND
HELP PULL SOME OF
THIS STUFF TOGETHER."
HE SAID, "I'M NOT CARVING
HEADS ANYMORE, MAN.
I'M CARVING MINDS AND HEARTS,
AND WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD."
GREENFIELD: THE CENTER AND THE
TOWERS WERE TURNED OVER TO THE
CITY FOR MANAGEMENT BECAUSE
THEY REALIZED THAT THEY
COULDN'T RUN IT. IT WAS JUST
TOO MUCH OF A NUT TO CRACK.
SANDERS: NOAH PURIFOY
RECOMMENDED THAT OUTTERBRIDGE
BE APPOINTED THE DIRECTOR.
GREENFIELD: AND HE WAS THE
DIRECTOR THERE FOR 18 YEARS. I
THINK NOAH WAS THERE FOR THE
TRANSITION, AND THEN HE JUST
KIND OF WENT OUT TO THE DESERT
AND DID HIS THING.
OUTTERBRIDGE: I HAD A SMALL
BUDGET, A VERY SMALL BUDGET,
FOR THE ARTS CENTER AND A
BUDGET THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO
STIMULATE AND DESIGN SOME
SEMBLANCE OF PROGRAMMING, BUT I
WAS ALSO REQUESTED BY THE MAYOR
AT THAT TIME TO ASSUME AS MUCH
RESPONSIBILITY AS I COULD IN
DEVELOPING FOCUS AND
PROGRAMMING FOR THE CULTURAL
HERITAGE MONUMENT IN TERMS OF
TOURISM.
DICKSON: WE WANTED TO ESTABLISH
A COMMUNITY ART CENTER THAT
WOULD BE REFLECTIVE OF THE
GENIUS OF THE COMMUNITY. JOHN
HELPED THEM GET THE JAZZ
FESTIVAL. HE BROUGHT IN ARTISTS,
AND HE WAS ALWAYS BUILDING AND
BUILDING. JOHN WAS JUST WITH
THAT CREATIVE SPIRIT, BUT THE
WATTS TOWERS THROUGH THE
FESTIVALS AND WHAT HAVE YOU
TURNED INTO A VERY, VERY
SPECIAL THING, AND EVENTUALLY,
PEOPLE WANTED TO CONTROL IT,
AND SO I THINK THAT COUPLED WITH
THE FACT THAT JOHN WANTED
TO MOVE ON INTO HIS
PRIVATE WORK WAS WHY HE
EVENTUALLY CUT IT LOOSE.
JEFFERSON: ALL OF US SHOULD BE
SO EXTRAORDINARILY GRATEFUL,
NOT ONLY THAT HE DID IT BUT
THAT HE WAS WILLING TO BUCK THE
SYSTEM ABOUT WHAT HE HAD TO DO
AS A CAREER. HE WAS SUCH A
GIVING HUMAN BEING IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OF HIS ART.
DICKSON: AFTER SO MANY YEARS,
JOHN BECAME KIND OF DISMAYED
BECAUSE HE WAS REALLY--HE SAYS,
"I'M AN ARTIST, MAN, YOU KNOW,
AND I WANT MY--I WANT TO DO MY
ART." SO--AND I ALWAYS FELT HE
WAS DOING HIS ART.
GREENFIELD: JOHN IS AN
EXCEPTIONAL PERSON. HE'S JUST
THIS SIDE SHORT OF SAINTHOOD ON
A LOT OF LEVELS, OK? HE'S A
PHILOSOPHER-POET. HE'S AN
INCREDIBLE ARTIST, WHO IN MANY
WAYS KIND OF IMBUES THE SPIRIT
OF SIMON RODIA IN MUCH THE SAME
WAY THAT NOAH PURIFOY DID.
OUTTERBRIDGE: NOAH PURIFOY USED
TO SAY ALL THE TIME TO ME,
EARLY ON, THAT "IT'S A TOOL.
IT'S A TOOL FOR YOU, AND IF IT
IS A TOOL FOR YOU, IT CAN BE A
TOOL FOR MANY OTHERS," AND I
STARTED TO REALLY BELIEVE THAT,
YOU KNOW?
MONIZ: PURIFOY, OUTTERBRIDGE,
AND MANY OF THESE ARTISTS, THEY
WERE INVESTED IN YOUNGER
GENERATIONS LIKE CHARLES
DICKSON, LIKE MARK STEVEN
GREENFIELD, WHO WOULD GO TO
BECOME ONE OF THE DIRECTORS OF
THE WATTS TOWERS ART CENTER.
GREENFIELD: JOHN WAS NOT
GENEROUS WITH HIS ADVICE, OK? I
MEAN, JOHN HAD HIS--HE HAD SOME
TOUGH DAYS, TOO. YOU KNOW, HE
BASICALLY SAID, "YOU WILL FIND
YOUR OWN WAY, GRASSHOPPER." HA
HA HA! THAT TYPE OF THING. I
WISHED THAT HE HAD GIVEN ME A
LITTLE BIT MORE WARNING, YOU
KNOW, OR GIVEN ME A LITTLE BIT
MORE ADVICE. I BECAME THE
DIRECTOR OF THE WATTS TOWERS
ARTS CENTER IN 1993. IT WAS
RIGHT AFTER THE 1992 UPRISING,
SO THERE WAS STILL A LOT OF
TENSION. OFTENTIMES, I COMPARE
THE CITY TO A SERIES OF TECTONIC
PLATES THAT ARE ALL BUTTED UP
AGAINST EACH OTHER. IN SOME
INSTANCES, THE FREEWAYS CREATE
THOSE DIVIDES, AND THERE'S SO
MUCH TENSION THAT BUILDS UP
BETWEEN THESE COMMUNITIES,
AND AT SOME POINT, IT SNAPS, AND
THEN EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE
HAD AN ARGUMENT WITH
COMES TO THE FORE, AND
THEY TAKE ACTION ON IT.
LAWYER: YOU'VE SEEN MR. KING
ROLL OVER ON HIS BACK NOW. IS
THAT CORRECT?
WITNESS: YES I HAVE.
LAWYER: ALL RIGHT. DID YOU
CONSIDER THAT TO BE AN
AGGRESSIVE MOVEMENT?
WITNESS: THE FACT
THAT HE ROLLED?
LAWYER: YES.
WITNESS: IT COULD BE.
[SHOUTING]
REPORTER: WHEN OFFICERS PUSHED
THE CROWD BACK, THE
DEMONSTRATORS OVERTURNED...
[SIRENS]
[HELICOPTER FLYING]
MAN: I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1941.
I SAW THE WATTS RIOTS. THIS IS
THE SECOND TIME IN 25 YEARS. I
SAW WHAT HAPPENED THIS TIME.
DIFFERENT MAN: THEY WOULD
AUTOMATICALLY FIND HIM NOT
GUILTY.
DIFFERENT MAN: IF IT WAS A
WHITE INDIVIDUAL GETTING BEAT
BY 4 BLACK POLICE OFFICERS,
THEY WOULD HAVE GOT TRIED, AND
THEY BEEN FOUND GUILTY.
DIFFERENT MAN: WITH THE KOREANS
THROUGHOUT ALL THE COMMUNITY,
THEY DIDN'T HIRE ANY BLACK.
THEY'RE TAKING EVERYTHING AWAY.
MAN: THERE'S NO SENSE IN
BURNING A PLACE DOWN, YOU GOT
TO--LOOK AT ALL--THIS WILL
NEVER COME BACK AGAIN. WE GONNA
BE BACK IN A PRIMITIVE AGE,
GOING BACK. WE GOING BACKWARDS
INSTEAD OF FORWARDS.
DIFFERENT MAN: I DON'T BELIEVE
IT WILL MYSELF, BUT WHAT--HOW
YOU GONNA GET JUSTICE?
[SIRENS]
GREENFIELD: THE "COLLABORATION"
SHOW WAS NOT TOO LONG AFTER THE
UPRISING, AND IT INVOLVED--I
THINK ALTOGETHER, LIKE, 22
ARTISTS, 11 KOREAN AMERICAN
ARTISTS AND 11 AFRICAN-AMERICAN
ARTISTS. I THINK IN THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY THEY
WERE LOOKING AT HOW IN SO MANY
INSTANCES KOREAN AMERICANS
OWNED THE BUSINESSES IN THEIR
NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY DIDN'T HAVE
ANY PARTICIPATION IN IT, THERE
WEREN'T ANY JOBS FOR THEM IN
IT, AND SO EACH OF US WAS PAIRED
WITH ANOTHER ARTIST, AND THE
IDEA WAS THAT WE WOULD CREATE
A PIECE OF ART JOINTLY, AND SO I
WAS PAIRED WITH AN ARTIST NAMED
KIM HYEON SHIN KO, AND WE
CREATED A PIECE BASED ON THE
GUYS THAT SELL ORANGES BY THE
FREEWAY BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING
THAT WAS COMMON TO BOTH OF US.
WHEN WE'D GET OFF AT THIS OFF
RAMP, THERE WOULD ALWAYS BE THIS
SAME GUY THERE SELLING ORANGES,
AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW,
THROUGH "COLLABORATIONS,"
WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS
DRAW THOSE PARALLELS, DRAW THOSE
SYNERGIES THAT WE HAD BETWEEN
OUR DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES
SO THAT THE ARTISTS COULD GET TO
LEARN EACH OTHER'S MODES OF
OPERATIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT,
AND WE THINK IT WAS LARGELY
SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE IT DID CREATE
A LOT MORE DIALOGUE, BUT I
STARTED TO--REALLY STARTED
GRAVITATING TOWARDS, YOU
KNOW, MORE SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
MONIZ: MARK STEVEN GREENFIELD
IS A LOT LIKE JOHN OUTTERBRIDGE
IN HIS VERSATILITY AS AN
ARTIST, AND I THINK THAT THAT
SORT OF TRANSLATES TO HIS ROLE
IN THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL. SO
HE HAD THESE ELDERS THAT HE
CAME AFTER AT WATTS, BUT THEN
HE BEGINS TO SORT OF MORPH AND
SHIFT AND EXPAND THE COMMUNITY
IN WAYS THAT MADE IT MORE
ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE.
GREENFIELD: ONE YEAR, I BROUGHT
IN 5 TIBETAN BUDDHIST MONKS TO
DO A PROJECT WITH THE KIDS IN
THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY DO THOSE
BIG SAND MANDALAS. AT FIRST, I
GOT A LOT OF CRITICISM FROM
SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY
THAT SWORE THAT I WAS TRYING TO
CHANGE THEIR CHILDREN INTO
BUDDHISTS, YOU KNOW, WHICH WAS
NEVER EVEN A CONSIDERATION, BUT
THEN ONCE THEY SAW THE END
RESULT, A LOT OF THEM WARMED UP
TO IT, AND THEY STARTED TO
UNDERSTAND THAT IT REALLY
WAS ABOUT THE ART.
ONE OF THE OTHER CHALLENGES
REALLY IS GETTING PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY USED TO THE IDEA OF
CONTEMPORARY ART. I HAD SOME
SUCCESSES, AND I HAD SOME
FAILURES. SO ALEX DONIS HAD
BEEN A TEACHER AT THE CENTER,
AND WHENEVER ANY OF THE
INSTRUCTORS AT THE CENTER ASKED
ME IF THEY COULD DO AN
EXHIBITION, I SAID, "SURE, NO
PROBLEM." ALEX HAD SHOWN ME
SOME SKETCHES OF WHAT HE WAS
GOING TO DO FOR THIS SHOW, AND
THEY WERE PAINTINGS OF POLICE
OFFICERS DANCING WITH GANG
MEMBERS. COME TIME TO PUT
UP THE SHOW, AND HE'S GOT
THESE LIFE-SIZE PAINTINGS OF
POLICE OFFICERS DANCING WITH
GANG--HUGE, AND SOME OF THE GANG
MEMBERS CAME INTO THE CENTER,
AND THEY SAW IT, AND THEY
JUST LOVED IT. THEY SAID,
"WOW! LOOK AT THAT. I KNOW HIM."
AND SOME OF THEM ACTUALLY
RECOGNIZED THE POLICE OFFICERS
AND SHERIFF OFFICERS THAT
WERE IN THE PAINTINGS. SOME LAPD
OFFICERS CAME BY, THEY
SAW IT, THEY LOVED IT.
THEY WERE CALLING THEIR
FRIENDS AT OTHER DIVISIONS. "YOU
GOT TO COME DOWN AND SEE THIS."
SO FOR ABOUT THE FIRST
5 DAYS THAT THE
SHOW WAS OPEN, I SAID,
"OH, THIS IS GOING TO BE GOOD."
WELL...
[SIGHS]
THERE WERE A GROUP OF ELDERLY
WOMEN THAT CAME TO THE SHOW,
AND THEY SAID, "YOU'RE GOING TO
TAKE THAT SHOW DOWN." AND I
TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO THEM. I
SAID, "IF YOU MAKE ME TAKE THE
SHOW DOWN, YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE
IT THE ATTENTION YOU DON'T WANT
IT TO HAVE," AND THEY SAY, "WE
DON'T CARE."
WE STRUCK THE SHOW
AFTER ABOUT A WEEK. WE HAD A
PRESS CONFERENCE. I BASICALLY
TOOK THE BLAME FOR IT. WE TRIED
TO REACH AN ACCOMMODATION WITH
THE ARTIST, SAID, "LISTEN. UH,
LET'S TAKE THE SHOW DOWN NOW.
LET'S CREATE A DIALOGUE
BETWEEN YOU AND THE COMMUNITY
TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES
THAT THE SHOW BRINGS UP,"
BECAUSE THE LEVEL OF ANIMOSITY
TOWARDS HE, THE WORK, AND THE
CENTER GREW TO A POINT THAT
WAS UNSUSTAINABLE. I HAD
PEOPLE THAT WERE CALLING ME FROM
SANTA MONICA, FROM THE WEST
SIDE SAYING, "YOU SHOULD CALL
THE POLICE DOWN THERE. THEY
SHOULD PROTECT THAT SHOW." AND
I SAID, "DON'T YOU REALIZE THAT
WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS MINIMIZE
CONFRONTATIONS BETWEEN THE
POLICE AND THE COMMUNITY IN
THIS COMMUNITY? BECAUSE THAT'S
HOW THINGS GET OUT OF HAND.
THAT'S HOW RIOTS GET STARTED,
YOU KNOW?" SO IT'S JUST PEOPLE
IN OTHER PARTS OF THE TOWN JUST
DIDN'T HAVE A CLEAR
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT
COMMUNITY WAS ABOUT, YOU KNOW?
VAN BLUM: ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT MAKES MARK SUCH A
REMARKABLE PERSON IS THAT HE IS
A COMBINATION OF ADMINISTRATOR
AND ARTIST. THOSE ARE VERY
DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS, AND TO BE
ABLE--HE DID, AS JOHN
OUTTERBRIDGE DID, HE WAS ABLE
TO DO TWO VERY DIFFERENT
THINGS. SO MARK DID THAT, I
THINK, VERY WELL, AND AT THE
SAME TIME, HE CONTINUED TO
PRODUCE UTTERLY MAGNIFICENT
VISUAL ARTWORK. MARK AND I HAVE
TALKED ABOUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT
IN THIS LIFE IS THAT WE DO
THE WORK. WE DO THE WORK.
[POWER TOOL RUNNING]
THERE ARE STILL
AFRICAN-AMERICAN ARTISTS AND
INCREASINGLY LATINO, LATINA
ARTISTS WHO STILL NEED TO HAVE
A HOME LIKE THE WATTS TOWERS
ARTS CENTER. IT MUST CONTINUE.
IF ANYTHING, THERE'S AN EVEN
GREATER NEED FOR THE WATTS
TOWERS ART CENTER THAN EVER
BEFORE.
ACEVEDO: FROM MY EXPERIENCE
GROWING UP HERE IN THIS
COMMUNITY, THIS SPACE HERE WAS
MY REAL FIRST INTRODUCTION TO
ART. LACMA WAS--IT WAS THE
OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD FOR ME
AT THAT TIME. I DIDN'T HAVE TO
GO ALL THE WAY OVER THERE TO
SEE ART OR TO MEET ARTISTS OR
TO TAKE AN ART CLASS. IT WAS
HERE IN MY COMMUNITY, AND SO
FOR ME, LIKE A LOT OF OTHER
YOUTH, IT WAS A VITAL, VITAL
SPACE, BUT IT WAS A SPACE,
ALSO, THAT BRIGHTENED YOUR
WORLD. YOU KNEW THAT THERE
WAS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE
OUT THERE THAN JUST THIS.
DAVIS: I COULD SUM IT UP IN ONE
WORD, ONE
CONCEPT--ENLIGHTENMENT. A
BROADENING OF YOUR EXPERIENCE,
A CHALLENGE TO YOUR BEING, YOU
KNOW? THE MORE YOU SEE, THE
MORE YOU EXPERIENCE, THE BETTER
PERSON YOU ARE BECAUSE YOU'RE
JUST THAT MUCH MORE
WELL-ROUNDED. YOU KNOW, YOU
COME OUT OF YOUR OWN LITTLE
PERSONAL ENCLAVE, AND, YOU
KNOW, IT'S NEEDED.
VAN BLUM: I THINK NOAH SET THE
TONE. THAT'S WHY THE GALLERY IS
NAMED FOR NOAH PURIFOY.
WOMAN: NOAH CONTRIBUTED A HUGE
FOUNDATION HERE IN ESTABLISHING
THE CRITERIA FOR THIS PLACE. SO
HE SET THE BAR REALLY, REALLY
HIGH, AND SINCE THEN, YOU KNOW,
THE OTHER ART CENTER DIRECTORS
HAVE CARRIED ON THAT LEVEL OF
PROFESSIONALISM. I'M THE FIRST
WOMAN WHO'S BEEN THE DIRECTOR
HERE AT THE CENTER. I HAD TO
STEP IN SOME REALLY, REALLY BIG
SHOES BECAUSE MUCH IS EXPECTED
OF US.
THIS IS THE BRIDGE HOUSING FOR
HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT THE
COUNCIL AND HACLA AND THE
SALVATION ARMY, AND THEY'VE
ASKED US TO CREATE A MURAL FOR
IT, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS
SESSION IS. IT'S A TEAM
APPROACH. WE HAVE DIFFERENT
ARTISTS and DIFFERENT MEDIUMS,
WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP TO A
GENERAL AGREEMENT ON WHAT WE'RE
DOING HERE.
DICKSON: I THINK THE TOP IS
WORKING FINE. IT JUST NEEDS TO
BE MOVED IN WITH SOME MORE
HOUSING OVER THERE.
THAT SPACE THAT--ROSIE RUNS
THAT LIKE A COLLEGE
INSTITUTION. THIS IS AN
EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT, AND WE
HAVE STANDARDS, AND SO THE
PEOPLE, THE COMMUNITY ARE THE
MAJOR FOCAL POINT FOR THE
REASON WHY IT SHOULD BE THERE.
MAN: THE COLOR, I DO SEE SOME
ISSUES PRACTICALLY. IF YOU
DO--YOU SET THE BASE AS A BLUE
OR IF IT'S A GRADIENT AND YOU
HAVE AN ISSUE OR A MISTAKE WITH
THE FOREGROUND.
SHE'S JUST A POWERHOUSE, RIGHT?
SHE--YOU KNOW, SHE'S--I THINK
SHE'S THE GLUE THAT HOLDS IT
ALL TOGETHER. I MEAN, IT'S
TOUGH TO HAVE ALL THESE
DIFFERENT ARTISTS WORK IN ONE
PLACE, AND THEY ALL HAVE THEIR
OWN IDEAS ABOUT THINGS, THEIR
OWN EGOS, AND SHE JUST HAS A
REAL MAGICAL WAY OF WORKING
WITH EVERYBODY
HOOKS: DO YOU THINK THE
WINGS ARE TOO FAR?
ACEVEDO: MMM. NO. THEY'RE OK
THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK
THEY WORK BETTER WITH THE
WORDING, BUT THE FLOWERS DON'T
BOTHER ME.
I'M VERY FORTUNATE TO WORK
UNDER DIRECTOR ROSIE LEE HOOKS.
I THINK--IN THE COMMUNITY ART
WORLD, I THINK SHE'S A GIANT.
SHE REALLY UNDERSTANDS THE
IMPORTANCE AND THE ROLE
COMMUNITY HAS AND THE
CONVERSATION THAT IT HAS WITH
ART AND ITS ARTISTS AND KNOWING
THAT EDUCATION IS A
BIG PART OF THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF SCHOOLS
STILL DON'T HAVE THAT IN ARTS
EDUCATION. A LOT OF THEM ARE
STILL STRUGGLING WITH THAT,
TRYING TO BRING IT BACK,
BUT HERE WE KIND OF FILL
A VOID WITH THAT.
GREENFIELD: THE WATTS TOWERS
ARTS CENTER PROVIDES AN
ALTERNATIVE. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF
THESE ARTS CENTERS--A LOT OF
THEM WERE STARTED BECAUSE THERE
WAS A CERTAIN NEED THERE.
THERE'S AN ABSENCE OF ART
PROGRAMS IN A LOT OF SCHOOLS
NOW, AND WHAT HAPPENS IS IF YOU
DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF
CREATIVE ENVIRONMENT, THEN
YOU'RE KIND OF SHORT CHANGING
THE EDUCATION THOSE KIDS CAN
GET BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S
BEEN PROVEN HOW THE ARTS
CAN IMPACT YOUR ABILITY
TO ABSORB IN OTHER AREAS.
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
MAN: ART REALLY, YOU KNOW,
GIVES YOU THAT ABSTRACT WAY OF
THINKING. IT'S MORE THAN JUST
TECHNIQUE, YOU KNOW. IT'S ABOUT
HOW YOU RELATE TO YOUR WORLD
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MAKE ART IF
YOU DON'T SAY ANYTHING. YOU CAN
DRAW SOMETHING PRETTY NICE, BUT
IF YOU'RE NOT TOUCHING
YOUR WORLD, THEN HOW ARE YOU
CHANGING IT?
RIVERA: I'VE BEEN AT THE ART
CENTER SINCE I WAS ABOUT MAYBE
10 OR 9 YEARS OLD, AND I WAS
INTRODUCED TO THE PLACE AND
NEVER LEFT. STILL THERE.
IT'S LIKE A REFUGE, YOU
KNOW, THERE, LIKE A LITTLE
ARTISTS' REFUGE, WHICH IS COOL.
THE APPROACH OF THE CENTER
HASN'T CHANGED FROM WHAT I CAN
SEE. I ALSO HAVEN'T BEEN THERE
50 YEARS, BUT WHEN I WAS THERE,
IT WAS JUST ABOUT GETTING KIDS
WHO WERE INTERESTED IN DOING
SOMETHING AFTER SCHOOL AND, YOU
KNOW, HAVING A PLACE FOR THEM,
RESOURCES FOR THEM TO DO THAT.
THAT HASN'T CHANGED. I THINK
THAT SMALLER THINGS CHANGE.
I THINK THAT AS A COMMUNITY
BECOMES MORE SPANISH SPEAKING,
YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD TO, LIKE,
ADAPT TO THAT. THEN WHEN I HEAR
STORIES ABOUT THE WAY IT WAS
BACK THEN, BACK IN THE DAY,
IT FEELS LIKE IT WAS THE SAME
THEN, TOO. IF YOU HAVE A
STRONG CONSTITUTION AND A
STRONG FOUNDATION, THERE'S
NO REAL NEED TO CHANGE IT.
HOOKS: LOS ANGELES IS ONE OF
THE ONLY MUNICIPALITIES THAT
ACTUALLY HAS COMMUNITY ARTS
CENTERS PRODUCED BY A
GOVERNMENT ENTITY. OUR
COMMUNITY, THE LAST THING ON
THE LIST IS AN ART CLASS OR
DANCE CLASS OR MUSIC CLASS.
THAT'S JUST NOT AFFORDABLE, SO
THE SPACE IS VERY, VERY VITAL
TO THE SURVIVAL OF OUR
COMMUNITY, GIVES OUR CHILDREN A
WAY OUT.
JEFFERSON: EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD
DESERVES TO HAVE THAT RANGE OF
ACTIVITY, AND IN NEIGHBORHOODS
OF COLOR, NOT ONLY DO THEY HAVE
TO BUILD IT FOR THEMSELVES, BUT
WHEN EVERYONE WHO LIVED THERE
BEFORE MOVES AWAY, THEY TAKE
ALL THE RESOURCES FROM THEM.
DAVIS: THERE ARE PLACES THAT I
WISH WERE STILL AROUND, I
REALLY DO, AND THESE WERE ALL
WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. YOU LOOK
BACK--YOU LOOK NOW, AND WHAT
SURVIVED REALLY IS...
THE WATTS TOWERS.
OUTTERBRIDGE: THE REBELLION WAS
A PIVOTAL POINT IN THE CIVIL
RIGHTS STRUGGLE. EVERYTHING UP
TILL THAT TIME HAD BEEN PRETTY
MUCH A NONVIOLENT KIND OF A
ISSUE. I DON'T SEE THE REBELLION
OF 1965 BEING SEPARATE AND APART
FROM THE STRUGGLE, BUT THIS ONE
WAS DIFFERENT FROM THE REST
BECAUSE IT TOOK A PHYSICAL KIND
OF POSITION AND REACTED TO
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT HAD BEEN
RATHER UNKIND AND UNSPOKEN AND
VERY MUCH PREVALENT IN THE
LIVES OF MANY BLACK AMERICANS,
NOT JUST IN WATTS BUT ACROSS THE
COUNTRY. SO THE COMMUNITY BECAME
SYMBOLIC AND CALLOUSED BECAUSE
OF THAT EVENT, AND WHEN YOU MEET
VISITORS COMING TO SOUTH
CENTRAL LOS ANGELES, AND
THEY ALWAYS COME TO WATTS,
WANTING TO KNOW "IS THIS
THE PLACE THAT WAS
BESIEGED BY WAR IN 1965?
WHERE'S CHARCOAL ALLEY? WAS THE
TOWERS CLOSE TO THE BURNINGS?"
BUT THE HISTORY BEFORE THAT
TIME, THE HISTORY OF BLACKS IN
AMERICA, WHETHER WE'RE SPEAKING
OF CALIFORNIA OR SOME REGION
IN THE MIDWEST OR EAST, IS
NOT READILY AVAILABLE FROM AN
ACADEMIC CLASSROOM STANDARD.
JEFFERSON: I SEE IT AS WHAT'S
RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU,
AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THESE
PLACES, PARTICULARLY IN POOR
NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU DON'T
HAVE PARKS, THEY'RE MAKING
SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING. IT'S
JUST THE NORMAL THING TO DO.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A BASEBALL
FIELD OUT OF AN EMPTY LOT, AND
WE'RE GONNA MAKE BASES OUT OF A
PIECE OF WOOD. MEANWHILE, FOLKS
ALL AROUND IT SAY, "HEY. LET'S
TEACH ART. ITS A REAL
OPPORTUNITY FOR EXPRESSION
AND AN OUTLET."
WE CAN BUS PEOPLE INTO THE
TOWERS TILL WE'RE BLUE IN
THE FACE, BUT WE STILL HAVE
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CENTERS IN
NEIGHBORHOODS EXIST BECAUSE
OUT OF THAT YOU GET NOT ONLY
EXCITEMENT BUT THE NEXT PERSON
WHO COMES ALONG AND THE NEXT
CREATIVE SPIRIT AND IDEAS THAT
COME THAT ARE REFLECTIVE OF NOT
ONLY WHO THE PEOPLE ARE, BUT IT
TELLS THE HISTORY AND THE STORY.
SO YOU CAN'T ALWAYS JUST
BRING IT IN. YOU'VE GOT TO
HELP FEED SO THAT IT CAN
GROW FROM WHERE IT IS.
ANNOUNCER: THIS PROGRAM WAS
MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY: A
GRANT FROM ANNE RAY FOUNDATION,
A MARGARET A. CARGILL
PHILANTHROPY; THE CITY OF
LOS ANGELES DEPARTMENT OF
CULTURAL AFFAIRS; THE
LOS ANGELES COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF
ARTS AND CULTURE; AN AWARD FROM
THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE
ARTS, ON THE WEB AT ARTS.GOV; A
GRANT FROM GRoW @ ANNENBERG;
AND THE CALIFORNIA ARTS COUNCIL.